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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Gary Saddlemier, Jim Rose and company welcoming back to the
(00:03):
program after our visit with him on Good Friday, Father
Ryan Lewis, Father Lewis, good morning, Good.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Morning Gary and everybody. Blessings to you on this Pascalina
they call it Easter Monday.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Right, We asked Father Lewis back, of course, because the
news came overnight shocking, I think, just because he had
recent public appearances, the death of Pope Francis. What are
your thoughts here, Father Lewis, the impact of this pope
on the church.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Yeah, well, first of all, to the shock. I went
to bed last night and said my night prayers, and
just before I went to bed, I heard Pope Francis
and they they played him saying for telly Is Sarelli
buona Pasca, dear brothers and sisters, Happy Easter, and that
(00:57):
was his message yesterday. And I thought to myself, my goodness,
this guy's eighty eight years old. He's had double pneumonia
for the last couple of months and he's still doing it.
And then I wake up this morning to this news
about an hour ago that he had passed, and I thought,
how beautiful in the Eastern Octave, the Resurrection of our Lord,
(01:17):
that the Lord calls Pope Francis Home. A historic pope,
the first Latin American pope, the first Jesuit pope from
Buenos Aires, Argentina. In some ways a very revolutionary pope
in the sense that he really he took the ancient
(01:38):
faith of the church every ancient ever knew, and he
tried to make it more accessible to more people. He
tried to, he might say, repackage it in a way
that more folks could find it helpful to their daily lives.
He was so humble and so about the poor and
(01:59):
the marginal eye. He called the Church of Field Hospital,
and we're out there to care for folks who are hurting,
for folks who are wounded. And he did it in
such a beautiful way. Twelve years as Pope. What a
beautiful life. And I have to say, what a beautiful
death during the Easter season.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
So what are the chances of the College of Cardinals
electing somebody who drinks more gatorade than Jeraitol?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Not very likely, James, because just so many of the
cardinals are are older, and there are a few young
cardinals that I would consider. What the Italians would call
papabul which means pope possibilities, if you will. But more
exciting to me would be to continue this trend of
(02:49):
popes not coming from Europe. If we could see an
African pope or an Asian pope. I mean, I just think,
I think, but France is one of his great things
publishments is making the College of Cardinals a much more
international body, less Eurocentric, and much more reflective of where
(03:09):
Catholicism is vibrant, and in this day and age, that's
places like Africa and Asia and not so much Europe.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Any shot an American gets this gay is that is
that like off the.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Table, pretty much off the table, but only because we're
just not highly a stake. We're so were the where
the world's only superpower. And I think most of the
most of the cardinals would say, the last thing we
need is an American to run the church as well.
We don't like it very much.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Wow, Well, I don't think.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
I don't think that this could affect my next visit
to the Vatican.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
I don't think pop you know, you say, you say
charitably that he made the faith more accessible to some people.
A lot of people didn't like his approach as as
adjusted what a really very liberal by comparison to the
history of the papacy.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
And I heard he was more aggressive than his two
predecessors for sure, Benedict and Jump all the second. Yeah,
and that that didn't that didn't suit everyone. But I
always tried to see him for who he is and
where he came from. And and I think he was
as surprised as anyone when he was elected pope. I
don't think he went looking for it at all. And
(04:23):
but I I always was edified by his by his
personal prayer, his personal humility. Some of you know, some
of his things that he was. He was big into
the environment and and all the green stuff, and I
that wasn't so much my you know, a favorite agenda item.
(04:43):
But yeah, but I always respected him, and I always
thought he was very authentic and uh and uh loved
his loved his prayerful humility. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
So what do we do now.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
It's going to be it's quite the process, having the
having the state funeral, of the official funeral of the Pope,
and then after that the College of Cardinals convenes, right, that's.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Right, So you get the cardinals to Rome. There's nine
official days of mourning leading up to the funeral, So
you got to get through the funeral first. Then once
the funeral happens after the nine days of the Morning,
then it's a week or two to get the conclave
all logistically oriented, to get all those cardinals to go
(05:26):
into the conclave to deliberate and to vote on a
new pope. So it's a three to four week process
all of it put together. So it's going to be
all eyes will be on Rome and Wow. But first
things first, we got to say thanks to God for
the life of this wonderful pope and entrust him to
(05:48):
the Lord's mercy, give him a fitting farewell and a
beautiful funeral, and then we can focus on what comes next.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
For those listening who are Roman Catholic and will be
attending services this coming Sunday, is there anything special that
that that the parishes do after the death of a pope?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
So well, I just pulled out a uh. We'll have
some kind of a tribute to Po Francis, a portrait
or some kind of a visual tribute in the sanctuary,
and we'll have special prayers for him at all of
our masses. Well, really, starting this morning, we won't even
wait till this weekend, but certainly this weekend we'll pay
(06:31):
tribute to him and remember him in a special way
as he would want us to do.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
No special collection for the post funeral or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Roberts, bring a castle, bring nothing, Father Lewis, Thank you always,
Gary Saddlemier, Jim Rose and company welcoming back to the
(00:03):
program after our visit with him on Good Friday, Father
Ryan Lewis, Father Lewis, good morning, Good.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Morning Gary and everybody. Blessings to you on this Pascalina
they call it Easter Monday.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Right, We asked Father Lewis back, of course, because the
news came overnight shocking, I think, just because he had
recent public appearances, the death of Pope Francis. What are
your thoughts here, Father Lewis, the impact of this pope
on the church.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Yeah, well, first of all, to the shock. I went
to bed last night and said my night prayers, and
just before I went to bed, I heard Pope Francis
and they they played him saying for telly Is Sarelli
buona Pasca, dear brothers and sisters, Happy Easter, and that
(00:57):
was his message yesterday. And I thought to myself, my goodness,
this guy's eighty eight years old. He's had double pneumonia
for the last couple of months and he's still doing it.
And then I wake up this morning to this news
about an hour ago that he had passed, and I thought,
how beautiful in the Eastern Octave, the Resurrection of our Lord,
(01:17):
that the Lord calls Pope Francis Home. A historic pope,
the first Latin American pope, the first Jesuit pope from
Buenos Aires, Argentina. In some ways a very revolutionary pope
in the sense that he really he took the ancient
(01:38):
faith of the church every ancient ever knew, and he
tried to make it more accessible to more people. He
tried to, he might say, repackage it in a way
that more folks could find it helpful to their daily lives.
He was so humble and so about the poor and
(01:59):
the marginal eye. He called the Church of Field Hospital,
and we're out there to care for folks who are hurting,
for folks who are wounded. And he did it in
such a beautiful way. Twelve years as Pope. What a
beautiful life. And I have to say, what a beautiful
death during the Easter season.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
So what are the chances of the College of Cardinals
electing somebody who drinks more gatorade than Jeraitol?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Not very likely, James, because just so many of the
cardinals are are older, and there are a few young
cardinals that I would consider. What the Italians would call
papabul which means pope possibilities, if you will. But more
exciting to me would be to continue this trend of
(02:49):
popes not coming from Europe. If we could see an
African pope or an Asian pope. I mean, I just think,
I think, but France is one of his great things
publishments is making the College of Cardinals a much more
international body, less Eurocentric, and much more reflective of where
(03:09):
Catholicism is vibrant, and in this day and age, that's
places like Africa and Asia and not so much Europe.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Any shot an American gets this gay is that is
that like off the.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Table, pretty much off the table, but only because we're
just not highly a stake. We're so were the where
the world's only superpower. And I think most of the
most of the cardinals would say, the last thing we
need is an American to run the church as well.
We don't like it very much.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Wow, Well, I don't think.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
I don't think that this could affect my next visit
to the Vatican.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
I don't think pop you know, you say, you say
charitably that he made the faith more accessible to some people.
A lot of people didn't like his approach as as
adjusted what a really very liberal by comparison to the
history of the papacy.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
And I heard he was more aggressive than his two
predecessors for sure, Benedict and Jump all the second. Yeah,
and that that didn't that didn't suit everyone. But I
always tried to see him for who he is and
where he came from. And and I think he was
as surprised as anyone when he was elected pope. I
don't think he went looking for it at all. And
(04:23):
but I I always was edified by his by his
personal prayer, his personal humility. Some of you know, some
of his things that he was. He was big into
the environment and and all the green stuff, and I
that wasn't so much my you know, a favorite agenda item.
(04:43):
But yeah, but I always respected him, and I always
thought he was very authentic and uh and uh loved
his loved his prayerful humility. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
So what do we do now.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
It's going to be it's quite the process, having the
having the state funeral, of the official funeral of the Pope,
and then after that the College of Cardinals convenes, right, that's.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Right, So you get the cardinals to Rome. There's nine
official days of mourning leading up to the funeral, So
you got to get through the funeral first. Then once
the funeral happens after the nine days of the Morning,
then it's a week or two to get the conclave
all logistically oriented, to get all those cardinals to go
(05:26):
into the conclave to deliberate and to vote on a
new pope. So it's a three to four week process
all of it put together. So it's going to be
all eyes will be on Rome and Wow. But first
things first, we got to say thanks to God for
the life of this wonderful pope and entrust him to
(05:48):
the Lord's mercy, give him a fitting farewell and a
beautiful funeral, and then we can focus on what comes next.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
For those listening who are Roman Catholic and will be
attending services this coming Sunday, is there anything special that
that that the parishes do after the death of a pope?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
So well, I just pulled out a uh. We'll have
some kind of a tribute to Po Francis, a portrait
or some kind of a visual tribute in the sanctuary,
and we'll have special prayers for him at all of
our masses. Well, really, starting this morning, we won't even
wait till this weekend, but certainly this weekend we'll pay
(06:31):
tribute to him and remember him in a special way
as he would want us to do.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
No special collection for the post funeral or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Roberts, bring a castle, bring nothing, Father Lewis, Thank you always,
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