Trump-Putin Dust-Up

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
After days of deadly Russian air strikes, President Trump declaring,
Vladimir Putin has gone absolutely crazy.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Update. I'm not happy with what Putin's doing. He's killing
a lot of people, and I don't know what the
hell happened to Putin. We're in the middle of talking
and he's shooting rockets into Kiev and other cities. I
don't like it at all, President Trump on the latest
provocations from Vladimir Putin's Russia. We are joined for a
few minutes this morning by Fox News radios Jonathan Savage

(00:29):
in London. Jonathan, good morning, Good morning. We have the
President making his strongest, in my memory, at least his
strongest remarks yet against what Vladimir Putin is doing. I
don't see yet any indication of any action beyond that,

(00:50):
but sanctions seem to be certainly something that's on the table.
What do you see happening here?

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yeah, that's right. President Trump says he considering increasing US
sanctions on Russia. Now. He has repeatedly threatened to do
this before and last week, when the European Union and
the UK increased sanctions on Russia, I think they had
hoped that the US would join them. But they declined
to do so. Marco Ruby, the Secretary of State, saying,

(01:18):
the President Trump's view is they've put too much pressure
on Russia. They may just walk away from peace talks. However,
what we were hearing there after the events of the
weekend perhaps suggested that President Trump is starting to lose
patients with Vladimir Putin. What they're Ukrainians and some of
their European friends have always said is that Vladimir Pusin
doesn't really want peace. He is just playing for time

(01:41):
and stringing the rest of the world along.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
It looks that way, doesn't it. I mean, if you
have any interest at all in at least a ceasefire,
let alone, let alone an end of this, you wouldn't
be doing what he's doing.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Well, let's look at what happened just a few weeks ago,
and Vladimir Putin suddenly announced peace talks to take place
a few days later in Istanbul, Turkey. Vladimir Zelenski said
he would go to these peace talks and talk face
to face with Vladimir Putin, but Vladimir Putin didn't turn up.
He sent a much lower level delegation and very little

(02:16):
was achieved At those talks that happened May sixteenth in Istanbul, Turkey,
and apart from the fact that there was a pretty
large prisoners for last week, there's not been any progress
in bringing a ceasefire any closer.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
I don't know if you've heard anything about this, Jonathan,
and this is a unattributed reporting, but there's an ex
post that says it is being reported that in Moscow
the Russian government is conducting a continuity of government operation,
with key government officials being moved to secure locations outside Moscow.

(02:52):
This is a sign of escalation and if it's true,
it would be I guess have you heard anything about that.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
That's not something that that I can confirm or add to.
What I can say is that Ukraine has had the
ability to target Russia and has attempted to do so
with drones, including getting very very close to the Kremlin
with their drones. Now none of them have caused any
significant damage, some damage to buildings, But just the other

(03:21):
day the German Chancellor says there are no longer range
restrictions on the arms they and allies are supplying to Ukraine.
In other words, Ukraine will be allowed to attack military
positions inside Russia, with very few exceptions, They've not been
able to do that until recently, but now they can.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Yeah, we talked with Great Nebraska Colonel Tom Burrower the
other day who was just back from another trip over there,
and he said, that's what it will take, strikes deep
inside Russia, particularly at their airfields. So maybe that'll happen now,
but yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
I think that's that's the same possibility.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Just a mess, Jonathan, Thank you. Always good to have
you on. Thank you Jonathan Savage there in London,