October 6, 2025 • 23 mins
In this episode, Wayne D sits down with rising country star Dasha, whose viral TikTok success has catapulted her from bedroom covers to the big stage. They dive into:
- 📱 Her meteoric rise on TikTok and how social media helped shape her sound and fanbase.
- 🎤 Touring with country heavyweights, what she's learned from sharing the stage with legends, and the surreal moments that come with it.
- 💼 Taylor Swift’s influence on how Dasha now approaches the business side of her career—from ownership to branding and beyond.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, it's Wayne Dan. I gotta tell you. Literally,
we have talked about her coming in studio for probably
what a good year too? Oh okay two years. Dash
should made time for us today. Thank you for being here.
I appreciate it, of course. And the funny thing is
football just came about in the building and we were
talking and you're like, I'm a big Chiefs fan because
(00:23):
who's got so let's start. Obviously you have some swiftye
and you to be celebrated news like that.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Uh, they call me trailer swift on the streets, so
people have said.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
That, Yeah, I'm not hilarious.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I'm making merch right now. I think it's so funny.
Run with it, right, I'll give you one just makes
a tank top only if it's crop girl. Yeah, girl,
come on as a fet so we'll talk music and
we'll talk to you being an artist in a second,
as a music fan.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Yeah, did you nerd out Taylor's news yesterday? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Well, okay, my mom is the one that called me.
I was in Whole Foods shopping and she was like,
did you hear? And I was like, what are you
talking about? She's like, Taylor gon't engaged and I was like, what, that's.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
The cash register and the girl on who's checking me out?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
I was like wait what? And I was like, oh
my god.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
It was like the most wholesome moment of like girlhood,
just like all freaking out.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
It was cute. So yeah, I did.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
So let me ask you, as somebody who now is
your own artist and you're inspiring another generation of artists
behind you, what is it about Taylor Swift that's so
appealing Because a lot of people are just fans, right,
but now you understand multiple sides of the business. Yeah,
plus you're fans, So what is it about Taylor that
you're like? Well?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
As a kid, I loved her songwriting and her how
she just showed up in the world as like such
a role model for young women, and that's why I
was drawn to her. But now as someone who's in
the business who understands, like, you know, having a label
deal and working radio and publishing and like all the
different sides of the music world that aren't you can't.
You don't know that until you're actually doing it. I
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respect her so much as a businesswoman as a CEO.
I've watched like all her documentaries and.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
She's a genius.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
That woman is so smart and she's such a boss,
and I'm like, oh, I want to be like that.
So I feel like I've taken like the business side
of me, like really admires her for that too.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
What are some pieces, because obviously being inspired by somebody
means they give you ideas on how to execute for you. Yeah,
so what are behind the scenes things that fans may
have zero clue about that, Like you give attention to
because you saw Taylor do something and you're like, hey,
I want to have my hands more on that.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Well, one thing is she has like this is like
kind of corporate meeting. I don't know how often she
does it, but like both her parents are on the board.
It's a board meeting, and she has like this really
core meeting. However often she does it, but it's all
like big ideas and they go from the small sottle
details to like, hey, this is the next album. This
is why I want to start teasing it, and it's
just like everyone knows everything and it's in like this
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one bubble. And she also has her own like management
company that just manages her thirteen management and she owns
that company, which is gene it's just like little things
like that that I'm like, well duh, but usually that's
not how the artist works, which doesn't really make sense.
But you can do whatever the hell you want because
you are the CEO as the artist.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Yeah, so it's really interesting.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Plus you can pay yourself.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
You can pay yourself.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Listen with checks on checks on Buck's. Let's rewind things
because obviously you had a great CMA fest. We saw
the bar take over there, but we haven't talked before,
so we're going to rewind things back. Let's take it
as things started to take off for you, because it
literally like Austin went from a song that oh oh,
(03:36):
that's that TikTok song, yeah, to like all over radio,
all over social media. What was that rise like for you?
And was it a little terrifying because thanks to social
media that fire burns fast now?
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yeah, it was insane. It was so surreal. For context,
I've been chasing this since I was eight years old.
That's when I started gigging and writing songs and all
that stuff. And to have a song do what it
did on social media and then transfer so beautifully over
to like the real world of music was like my
dream coming true. Times ten, and like the fact that
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it went so international so fast was also a crazy
part of it because before I was even touring in America,
I was out in Europe, in Australia and New Zealand
and like doing that whole thing, which usually takes years
and years and years, especially for country.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
People to get to So that was also wild.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
And I was just like thrown into it and I
was like, let's do this thing, like I'm so ready
for it.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
It was wild.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
The only thing that I hate about like TikTok I
I'm gonna use the word TikTok artists is that oh god,
you get well, there's like a negative contentsation. Yeah, just
because somebody may have discovered you there or like that's
the gas was already there, you just needed the fire
to be lit. It's almost like you get pigeonholed there.
(04:53):
How have you combatd that? Like, how have you been
like well, no, hang on, that's that's what opened the door.
But like the rest of the house has made hits. Yeah,
I know.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
It's so frustrating being like, oh, you're that TikTok artist
and I'm like shut up, like no, that's it's a
free marketing tool, like I would be stupid.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Not to be using it. Whatever.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I could go on for hours about that, but no,
I think for me, I can't control what people say
about me. I can laugh at it and not be
affected by it. But I think for me, like I
always consider myself a songwriter first and foremost, and so
putting out the next single not this party, and being like, well,
what about this one? My TikTok artist now and what
about this song and what about this writing? And like
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I think I just like proved myself as like I'm
an artist first and foremost, and like, sorry, I'm good
at social media, sue me, you know. So it just
like kind of backlashed at them if they kept calling
me that. And I don't really get called that anymore,
which is cool.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Which is nice to get past because it's almost like
before social media, there was an American Idol, right, and if
you go an American Idol now you're like, here's American
Idol Champion falls around forever.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
I'm an artist, yeah, but then carry Underwood broke out
of that. Yeah, So it just takes time.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
I think, honestly, at what point were you like, hey,
this is cool, But like I Don't want to live.
Austin was such a massive song right on social media,
did phenomenally in streaming and on radio as well. At
what point we were like, Okay, this is cool, but
like like let's let's clean the slate off and like,
let's really now that you have the attention, now that
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the spotlight's on, like let's.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
I think honestly, I started getting comments like she only
has one song, like oh, this song again, and I
think I started kind of listening to that. And also
it was it had been like nine months of just
pushing the shit out of that song, and I was like, Okay,
it's time to put out another banger. And in that time,
I'd put out the rest of that album, the deluxe version,
so like there had been new music in the market,
but like, Austin was such a huge song that the
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other songs made like just the tiniest little blip compared
to that. So I was like, okay, what is the
next push? And then not this party? I wrote it
and the whole team was just like, girl, this is
it because it has that you know, it has that
kind of that soul inside to it that I love
writing about that the kind of like the sadness of like,
oh man, I'm not at this party. I want to
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be with this home boy in the backseat right now.
But then it has that huge dance beat, which is
so such a big part of who I am as
an artist, and like that line dancing side of me.
So it was kind of the perfect follow up. So
I was just kind of waiting for that and then
it came about and I was like, let's go.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Here we go.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
When it comes to that, there's so many artists that
love the songwriting part, and like, I don't want to
say they have to perform, but like there's a lot
of people that would be happy just they just want
to write it, let it all out, and then go
let it live while they move on. Is there any
part of you that's like, hey, if I just wrote songs,
that wouldn't be the end of the world for me.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
I've thought about that for sure.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Last year I hit kind of a dark spot mentally,
just dealing with all of a sudden being in the
light and it was just a really fast transition and
I was like, oh God, this is a lot and
I definitely thought about that. But I think there's a
part of me that just feels so at home on
stage and the performing that aspects of it, the engagement
of people is just lights me on fire more than
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anything else does.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
So I don't think I could just be a songwriter ever.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
As cool as it is to watch like the TikTok
stuff blow up and then the success to transition to
other avenues of country, what have been some cool moments
for you? And I love to ask this question to
like newer artists, because you're still very much looking through
fan glasses, right even though you're even though you're doing
it and you're creating and you're seeing success and selling
merchant tickets, you're meeting heroes that you've never met. You're
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getting dms from other artists and celebrities that are like,
hey girl, I'm coming on the show. I love this whatever.
So give us a couple of moments like that where
you were like, oh my god, get where you got,
where you got to do that, Oh my god, like
your fans would for I think.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
The first one was when Keith Urban texted me. I
was in Germany on this like press tour and I
got a text. It was like, hey, d it's Keith
Urban in parentheses and I was like, what is going on,
like freaking out, and he liked Austin and he had
me come play it at cmafes last year two years ago,
and that was that was wild because I mean, it's
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freaking Keith her but I'm such a fan of his
and like hanging out with him and his band and
like learning the song how they wanted to do it
was just such a cool way to experience someone else's camp.
And like Keith has been in it forever and I
have not. I'm so new to this scene.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
It was.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
It was kind of like just like a study period
of like, Okay, this is really cool to see how
you do it and how you interact with your band
and your team, and it was.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
It was really cool. So that was the first one
that like geeked me out.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
He Keith has always been a guy, Like there's there's
stories like that for you and other female arts as well.
I mean, matter of fact, he had a handful of
Vegas residencies where only female artists open for him. That's
so cool, Like he has he has a like a
sob and maybe it's the dad's side of the girl.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Dad.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
He's got like this soft spot for like Hey, I
have a platform. Yeah, and getting a platform is hard,
and sometimes it's a lot harder for a female country artist.
So he's like, step on in, I got you. Yeah,
who are other artists that have maybe befriended you, like,
hey we should tour, Hey we should do a song. Hey,
you know, I love what you're do and like support
from the industry.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I mean, Lady Wilson from the beginning was she texted me.
We met at the CMT Awards and I was that
was my first ward showever, and she came up to
me backstage. It was just like such older sister vibes
Her and Kelsey Vallerini have been total older sisters to me.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Megan too.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Megan and I met a couple months ago and we
Drake Margerite isn't her bus and we just talked all
the shit and it was so healthy.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
It was great.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
So, I mean, honestly, I just feel like I've been
lifted up by so many like women around me, which
has been really nice. And then Thomas Red of course
bring me out in to her. He's such a buddy,
he's so cool. We met the first time in a session,
which is cool, and so we got to hang out.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
I cuss a lot.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
He doesn't, so that was a crazy juxtaposition. He's such
a wholesome dad and I was just like.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Yeah, this dude and blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
He's just like holy God, and I'm like, oh god.
So that was a very fun session.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
His wife wiped down the studio with a left.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Let's clean up after her, and I was like sick.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
She's like, did you give her a high five? Here? O?
My god?
Speaker 3 (11:18):
He's so sweet.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Success is so is so hard to grab onto right,
and it's and it's kind of like that, it's it's
tough to get to where you want to go, but
it's twice it's tough to stay there. So knowing that
Austin's your first offering the country radio, it saws success.
It had not normal. I'm sure you've heard from anybody
that listen right that that that's not normal to see
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success like that out of the gate. What type of
pressure do you put on yourself now? Moving forward? Obviously
we have the next single, not at this party, but
like even past that, Like, hey, we started we started
at ten, so we can't we can't come back at four.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
I'm working this new project right now, which I feel
like is kind of like my baby country album because
I had What Happens Now come out, but it was
kind of so lost in the sauce. And now it's like, Okay,
this is like the first like big project in putting
out and I'm not lie. I'm kind of freaking out.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
A little bit inside about it because I care.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
So much and I really really love these songs and
I just want people to understand the songs.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
And love them the way I do.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
So that's been a lot of pressure, and not just
like the songs, it's like the music videos and the
cover art and like every little piece of it really
matters to me, like the like of like that music
video was so fun shooting and I it's we shot
it like a week before it came out, so it
was like so running gun and like girl, I pray
and it turns out well because there's not a second
option we have here. So yeah, there's a lot of
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pressure on it. But also I think I make the
best art under pressure, So I'm kind of.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Like letting myself just be what it is. I trust myself.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
I really do trust myself as an artist, and I'm
just gonna try my best and do the best I can,
and there's not much I can do about that.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
So, yeah, I'd like to talk about collabs because everybody
is doing collabs and it's almost like if your album
doesn't have it, like, well, then go back and find one. Right.
It almost feels like that's the native in Nashville right
now as you still are introducing yourself very much to
fans every day, is there any party that's like cool?
Collabs are great, but like we're going to establish who
(13:21):
I am first before like I just start being just
singing hooks for everybody else. Yeah, I that for you.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yeah, I haven't done an official collab yet, and I've
kind of been waiting for a very special moment, and
we have some special moments coming up which are which
is exciting, definitely on the horizon. But this first part
of the project that's coming out soon, it's just there's
no collaps. It's just all me, and I feel like
I had to kind of rewind and introduce people to like, Okay,
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now you heard my hit, you maybe heard a couple songs,
but let's rewind and let's talk about where I came.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
From and why I do what I do. And why
I show up the way I show up because y'all
have no idea. You just call me the boots girl,
you know. So let's back it up.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
I have to ask because anybody that watches the video
portion of this interview, there was a big smile, face
was glowing a little bit when you said there's special
things coming. So I have to say, is there a
collab on the horizon. I'm not going to ask you
to name names or give release dates, but like, is
there something set in stone, Like, hey, we are going
to do something and it's going to happen you know
this year?
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Yes, not this year?
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Got it? But soon yes, Well we can't wait to
see what you and Morgan want. What I was kidding
when I say I always look over at the label
in case of like you will edit that out now
start over.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Hey, Morgan, hit me up, hit me up. I haven't
met yet, but big.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Fan, that's speaking of meeting. You have a name that
compete pronounced more than one way. Oh my god, and
I've heard it all I got but like, here's the thing.
I hate that for you. Yeah, because I've heard other
artists the same and they go, just call me whatever
and it's like, hell, no, that's you're right. Yeah, So
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what's what's the worst introduction wise, You've gotten the name
like somebody just butchered the hell out of.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
I had an interview the other day and he pronounced
my name three different ways during during the interview, and
I was like, this is impressed. I think he was
freaking out inside obviously, because he could tell.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
If we weren't recording, I'd guess the name just to
be a dick. But I'm not going I.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Got I get Daisha all the time, dashaw sometimes, which
makes no goddamn sense. It's dash. People come yeah, just
call me dash. It's so easy.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
If you're a French or Italian I can see.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Or like Russian Dasha. But it's not. In middle school,
I got called Dousha. That one hurt. Yeah, So.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
That's funny. Tom Martins is still called.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
That Is that right? I knew he got along for
some reason.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Trauma speaking of God, trauma, What a great segue. There
is something that Hey and I love to get, like
in the weeds with artists, okay, and speaking to Keith,
he gave us a phenomenal answer. Because mental health for
artists was never a priority it was like, keep Oh,
(16:24):
you made a hit, where's the next one? Give me
the next five?
Speaker 3 (16:28):
You're tired?
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Yeah, you won the weekend off not in the cool
maybe in December, you're like, but it's like it's April
with As fast as things took off for you, i'd
imagine mental health took a back seat. So you don't
have to share anything you don't want to. But how
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did you get to a place and maybe you're not
even there yet, how did you get to a place
where you're like, hey, I have to be a priority
at some point before like I go crazy, and y'all
don't get If I go crazy, y'all don't get paid
no more.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Yeah, exactly, I got really bad.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Like last September, I was dating this guy who was
like literally my emotional support animal, and then we broke
up and that just sent me off the deep end,
as you can probably imagine. Yea, not even because I
was I mean, I was sad about the breakup, but
it was just like I didn't have anywhere to ground
myself too, and it was really scary. So I learned
(17:30):
that I need I need the groundingness. I need to
go play pick a ball.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
With my friends.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
I need to go to the grocery store and cook
my own dinner and them in town. I need to
not text anyone for twenty four hours sometimes, Like there's
just like simple things that everyone needs. And just because
I have I live in the public eye, doesn't mean
I don't need it too, you know, And.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
I think also there's been times when fans have come
up to me when like one night, I was in
the airport and I was just having a classic mint
t be absolute breakdown, sitting on the floor, hat sunglasses on,
like crying, okay, and.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Sometimes you just gotta do that, okay.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
And I'm in the airport and these fans come up
to me and they're like, are you Dasha, And I
literally look at them, I take off my sunglasses. I'm like,
I am and I love you, and I am in
no picure. I'm in no state to take a picture
right now. And I hope you understand that, and just
having that real connection like I am a person in
some fugly sweatpants right now, sobbing my eyes out and
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I love you, but do not ask for a picture
right now.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
And it's just like setting that boundary, I think is
really healthy.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
So I've kind of learned that I'm a people pleaser,
recovering people pleaser, and we're trying to miss you.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Know, and listen. But like the boundary thing doesn't make
you bad, no, and the unfortunate thing is as much
as you can explain it, right. And there's some people
in your life that like give them an explanation so
they don't hate you. But like other people, it's like, dude, dude, dude,
what if I was going to the bathroom straight bathroom? Yeah,
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because like I'm in a moment where I just need
me and don't be around you. I'll sign something. Let
me sign something.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Easy, exactly.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
And I think, honestly, like having that rapport fans is
really important to me because the whole relationship of like
artists fan is so like I'm above you, and I
think it's so backwards and weird because at the end
of the day, like I'm not better than you just
because I make music and you know about it. It's
I don't like that dynamic at all, and I think
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it makes it like needy and like frantic and scary
and like that's how you get chased down the street,
and that's how people show up to your house. But
if you just like are so human with him, it
kind of breaks that, like, oh you're a god. We're
just all humans together. So I've been trying to practicing
that when I can. But also I'm just a girl.
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So we're trying our best.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Think you're doing great musically. In between now and the
rest of the year. I things are still burning red
hot for your wise and schedule wise. Where's some downtime
that you've intentionally placed in between now and the end
of the year.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
I have some off time at Christmas.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Not till December.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Well, okay, that's not true. I'm going home for Thanksgiving.
And the last year I was in the Thanksgiving parade.
I don't know if you saw lips.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Should we talk about it?
Speaker 1 (20:21):
No, let me tell you no, it was great. Don't
worry about it. Listen, regardless of them, just a girl.
First of all. First of all, that's on them, not.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Youatting rhythmsic over my face.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
That was on me. Let's be real, and let's be
so real.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
You're drowning. I'm trying to throw you a life preserver.
Just grab it and we'll move on. So will you
have downtime over Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Yeah, I'm gonna go home and I do you know
about blackout Wednesday? It's the Wednesday before Thanksgiving and then
that's all the high school homies pull up to that
local bar.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
We go to Frog and Peach, okay, and it's the
most fun.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
You just said you get high school kids drunk.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
No high school homies. Oh, I mean, maybe depends.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
I just want to see what tom I would say
about that.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
But yeah, it's the best day of her So I
made sure I'm off because I want to go to
black I wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Say as you should. That's it's funny because when you
work where we work, we do the same thing. Really,
but it's not it's not celebrating.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
It's oh coping, it's coping. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's
a little bit of both.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Nobody will hear this part of the interview, so you
know we will clip it, clip it. Give me the
best tour story. You got best tour story because you
had mentioned Thomas rhtt. Obviously you've been on the road
and you have festivals. You're bumping into big names. So
give us, give us a cool This isn't like a
weird like. Give us a secret, but like, what's a
cool story that you're like, Man, this is something I'll
(21:47):
remember forever.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
I have.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
I have the perfect one, okay, so and I have
a picture to go along with it that can be
an asset later. So it was the last night of
my portion of the Veteran Boots tour with tr and Tucker.
We more and uh Tucker and I've gotten really close
because her stars kind of rose at the same time,
so we've just been everywhere at the same time, and
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we just became really good friends this past like year
and a half. So we had the idea hanging out
like the previous weekend. I was like, we need to
do an end of tour prank on tr. It's my
last show next weekend. We gotta do something. And He's like,
I'm so in and I was like, oh my god,
I have an idea. So I would go up and
sing Heads Carolina with tr you know, and uh Tucker
(22:29):
would usually go up right after and do small Town Girls.
And so I was like, Tucker, what if we clip
in some of my extensions to your hair. Okay, put
it on a little ball cap, put on a little
tank top that I would wear, and you go out.
I'll be seeing inside stage and you go out for me,
and you walk out, and we're gonna go see TR's
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face when you walk out in my fucking extensions and
start singing this song, okay, and then during the chorus, I'm.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Gonna walk out dressed as you.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
I'm gonna get a little mustache on and all that thing,
maybe even drow some abs on. I'm gonna walk out,
and then we're both gonna be on stage with him,
dressed up as each other and sing this song together.
And he's like At first he was like hell yeah,
and then he was like, I don't know. Once the
extensions came out, he was like I don't know, man,
And then we tried them on in the bus.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
And he was like feeling himself. So I'm like, it's happening. Okay.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Unfortunately that was a show that got lightning out, so
it never happened. I know, I know, but it could
still happen. And then I told tr about it and
he was so upset because that was so funny. But
the good news is I have a picture of Tucker
with my extensions in so.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
You guys forever, yep, Hey, I appreciate you. Thanks for
taking time to hang, Thanks for having me
All right, it's Wayne Dan. I gotta tell you. Literally,
we have talked about her coming in studio for probably
what a good year too? Oh okay two years. Dash
should made time for us today. Thank you for being here.
I appreciate it, of course. And the funny thing is
football just came about in the building and we were
talking and you're like, I'm a big Chiefs fan because
(00:23):
who's got so let's start. Obviously you have some swiftye
and you to be celebrated news like that.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Uh, they call me trailer swift on the streets, so
people have said.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
That, Yeah, I'm not hilarious.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I'm making merch right now. I think it's so funny.
Run with it, right, I'll give you one just makes
a tank top only if it's crop girl. Yeah, girl,
come on as a fet so we'll talk music and
we'll talk to you being an artist in a second,
as a music fan.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Yeah, did you nerd out Taylor's news yesterday? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Well, okay, my mom is the one that called me.
I was in Whole Foods shopping and she was like,
did you hear? And I was like, what are you
talking about? She's like, Taylor gon't engaged and I was like, what, that's.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
The cash register and the girl on who's checking me out?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
I was like wait what? And I was like, oh
my god.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
It was like the most wholesome moment of like girlhood,
just like all freaking out.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
It was cute. So yeah, I did.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
So let me ask you, as somebody who now is
your own artist and you're inspiring another generation of artists
behind you, what is it about Taylor Swift that's so
appealing Because a lot of people are just fans, right,
but now you understand multiple sides of the business. Yeah,
plus you're fans, So what is it about Taylor that
you're like? Well?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
As a kid, I loved her songwriting and her how
she just showed up in the world as like such
a role model for young women, and that's why I
was drawn to her. But now as someone who's in
the business who understands, like, you know, having a label
deal and working radio and publishing and like all the
different sides of the music world that aren't you can't.
You don't know that until you're actually doing it. I
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respect her so much as a businesswoman as a CEO.
I've watched like all her documentaries and.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
She's a genius.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
That woman is so smart and she's such a boss,
and I'm like, oh, I want to be like that.
So I feel like I've taken like the business side
of me, like really admires her for that too.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
What are some pieces, because obviously being inspired by somebody
means they give you ideas on how to execute for you. Yeah,
so what are behind the scenes things that fans may
have zero clue about that, Like you give attention to
because you saw Taylor do something and you're like, hey,
I want to have my hands more on that.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Well, one thing is she has like this is like
kind of corporate meeting. I don't know how often she
does it, but like both her parents are on the board.
It's a board meeting, and she has like this really
core meeting. However often she does it, but it's all
like big ideas and they go from the small sottle
details to like, hey, this is the next album. This
is why I want to start teasing it, and it's
just like everyone knows everything and it's in like this
(02:52):
one bubble. And she also has her own like management
company that just manages her thirteen management and she owns
that company, which is gene it's just like little things
like that that I'm like, well duh, but usually that's
not how the artist works, which doesn't really make sense.
But you can do whatever the hell you want because
you are the CEO as the artist.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Yeah, so it's really interesting.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Plus you can pay yourself.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
You can pay yourself.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Listen with checks on checks on Buck's. Let's rewind things
because obviously you had a great CMA fest. We saw
the bar take over there, but we haven't talked before,
so we're going to rewind things back. Let's take it
as things started to take off for you, because it
literally like Austin went from a song that oh oh,
(03:36):
that's that TikTok song, yeah, to like all over radio,
all over social media. What was that rise like for you?
And was it a little terrifying because thanks to social
media that fire burns fast now?
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yeah, it was insane. It was so surreal. For context,
I've been chasing this since I was eight years old.
That's when I started gigging and writing songs and all
that stuff. And to have a song do what it
did on social media and then transfer so beautifully over
to like the real world of music was like my
dream coming true. Times ten, and like the fact that
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it went so international so fast was also a crazy
part of it because before I was even touring in America,
I was out in Europe, in Australia and New Zealand
and like doing that whole thing, which usually takes years
and years and years, especially for country.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
People to get to So that was also wild.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
And I was just like thrown into it and I
was like, let's do this thing, like I'm so ready
for it.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
It was wild.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
The only thing that I hate about like TikTok I
I'm gonna use the word TikTok artists is that oh god,
you get well, there's like a negative contentsation. Yeah, just
because somebody may have discovered you there or like that's
the gas was already there, you just needed the fire
to be lit. It's almost like you get pigeonholed there.
(04:53):
How have you combatd that? Like, how have you been
like well, no, hang on, that's that's what opened the door.
But like the rest of the house has made hits. Yeah,
I know.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
It's so frustrating being like, oh, you're that TikTok artist
and I'm like shut up, like no, that's it's a
free marketing tool, like I would be stupid.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Not to be using it. Whatever.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I could go on for hours about that, but no,
I think for me, I can't control what people say
about me. I can laugh at it and not be
affected by it. But I think for me, like I
always consider myself a songwriter first and foremost, and so
putting out the next single not this party, and being like, well,
what about this one? My TikTok artist now and what
about this song and what about this writing? And like
(05:30):
I think I just like proved myself as like I'm
an artist first and foremost, and like, sorry, I'm good
at social media, sue me, you know. So it just
like kind of backlashed at them if they kept calling
me that. And I don't really get called that anymore,
which is cool.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Which is nice to get past because it's almost like
before social media, there was an American Idol, right, and if
you go an American Idol now you're like, here's American
Idol Champion falls around forever.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
I'm an artist, yeah, but then carry Underwood broke out
of that. Yeah, So it just takes time.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
I think, honestly, at what point were you like, hey,
this is cool, But like I Don't want to live.
Austin was such a massive song right on social media,
did phenomenally in streaming and on radio as well. At
what point we were like, Okay, this is cool, but
like like let's let's clean the slate off and like,
let's really now that you have the attention, now that
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the spotlight's on, like let's.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
I think honestly, I started getting comments like she only
has one song, like oh, this song again, and I
think I started kind of listening to that. And also
it was it had been like nine months of just
pushing the shit out of that song, and I was like, Okay,
it's time to put out another banger. And in that time,
I'd put out the rest of that album, the deluxe version,
so like there had been new music in the market,
but like, Austin was such a huge song that the
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other songs made like just the tiniest little blip compared
to that. So I was like, okay, what is the
next push? And then not this party? I wrote it
and the whole team was just like, girl, this is
it because it has that you know, it has that
kind of that soul inside to it that I love
writing about that the kind of like the sadness of like,
oh man, I'm not at this party. I want to
(07:05):
be with this home boy in the backseat right now.
But then it has that huge dance beat, which is
so such a big part of who I am as
an artist, and like that line dancing side of me.
So it was kind of the perfect follow up. So
I was just kind of waiting for that and then
it came about and I was like, let's go.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Here we go.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
When it comes to that, there's so many artists that
love the songwriting part, and like, I don't want to
say they have to perform, but like there's a lot
of people that would be happy just they just want
to write it, let it all out, and then go
let it live while they move on. Is there any
part of you that's like, hey, if I just wrote songs,
that wouldn't be the end of the world for me.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
I've thought about that for sure.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Last year I hit kind of a dark spot mentally,
just dealing with all of a sudden being in the
light and it was just a really fast transition and
I was like, oh God, this is a lot and
I definitely thought about that. But I think there's a
part of me that just feels so at home on
stage and the performing that aspects of it, the engagement
of people is just lights me on fire more than
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anything else does.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
So I don't think I could just be a songwriter ever.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
As cool as it is to watch like the TikTok
stuff blow up and then the success to transition to
other avenues of country, what have been some cool moments
for you? And I love to ask this question to
like newer artists, because you're still very much looking through
fan glasses, right even though you're even though you're doing
it and you're creating and you're seeing success and selling
merchant tickets, you're meeting heroes that you've never met. You're
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getting dms from other artists and celebrities that are like,
hey girl, I'm coming on the show. I love this whatever.
So give us a couple of moments like that where
you were like, oh my god, get where you got,
where you got to do that, Oh my god, like
your fans would for I think.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
The first one was when Keith Urban texted me. I
was in Germany on this like press tour and I
got a text. It was like, hey, d it's Keith
Urban in parentheses and I was like, what is going on,
like freaking out, and he liked Austin and he had
me come play it at cmafes last year two years ago,
and that was that was wild because I mean, it's
(09:08):
freaking Keith her but I'm such a fan of his
and like hanging out with him and his band and
like learning the song how they wanted to do it
was just such a cool way to experience someone else's camp.
And like Keith has been in it forever and I
have not. I'm so new to this scene.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
It was.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
It was kind of like just like a study period
of like, Okay, this is really cool to see how
you do it and how you interact with your band
and your team, and it was.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
It was really cool. So that was the first one
that like geeked me out.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
He Keith has always been a guy, Like there's there's
stories like that for you and other female arts as well.
I mean, matter of fact, he had a handful of
Vegas residencies where only female artists open for him. That's
so cool, Like he has he has a like a
sob and maybe it's the dad's side of the girl.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Dad.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
He's got like this soft spot for like Hey, I
have a platform. Yeah, and getting a platform is hard,
and sometimes it's a lot harder for a female country artist.
So he's like, step on in, I got you. Yeah,
who are other artists that have maybe befriended you, like,
hey we should tour, Hey we should do a song. Hey,
you know, I love what you're do and like support
from the industry.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I mean, Lady Wilson from the beginning was she texted me.
We met at the CMT Awards and I was that
was my first ward showever, and she came up to
me backstage. It was just like such older sister vibes
Her and Kelsey Vallerini have been total older sisters to me.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Megan too.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Megan and I met a couple months ago and we
Drake Margerite isn't her bus and we just talked all
the shit and it was so healthy.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
It was great.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
So, I mean, honestly, I just feel like I've been
lifted up by so many like women around me, which
has been really nice. And then Thomas Red of course
bring me out in to her. He's such a buddy,
he's so cool. We met the first time in a session,
which is cool, and so we got to hang out.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
I cuss a lot.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
He doesn't, so that was a crazy juxtaposition. He's such
a wholesome dad and I was just like.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Yeah, this dude and blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
He's just like holy God, and I'm like, oh god.
So that was a very fun session.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
His wife wiped down the studio with a left.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Let's clean up after her, and I was like sick.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
She's like, did you give her a high five? Here? O?
My god?
Speaker 3 (11:18):
He's so sweet.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Success is so is so hard to grab onto right,
and it's and it's kind of like that, it's it's
tough to get to where you want to go, but
it's twice it's tough to stay there. So knowing that
Austin's your first offering the country radio, it saws success.
It had not normal. I'm sure you've heard from anybody
that listen right that that that's not normal to see
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success like that out of the gate. What type of
pressure do you put on yourself now? Moving forward? Obviously
we have the next single, not at this party, but
like even past that, Like, hey, we started we started
at ten, so we can't we can't come back at four.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
I'm working this new project right now, which I feel
like is kind of like my baby country album because
I had What Happens Now come out, but it was
kind of so lost in the sauce. And now it's like, Okay,
this is like the first like big project in putting
out and I'm not lie. I'm kind of freaking out.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
A little bit inside about it because I care.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
So much and I really really love these songs and
I just want people to understand the songs.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
And love them the way I do.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
So that's been a lot of pressure, and not just
like the songs, it's like the music videos and the
cover art and like every little piece of it really
matters to me, like the like of like that music
video was so fun shooting and I it's we shot
it like a week before it came out, so it
was like so running gun and like girl, I pray
and it turns out well because there's not a second
option we have here. So yeah, there's a lot of
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pressure on it. But also I think I make the
best art under pressure, So I'm kind of.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Like letting myself just be what it is. I trust myself.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
I really do trust myself as an artist, and I'm
just gonna try my best and do the best I can,
and there's not much I can do about that.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
So, yeah, I'd like to talk about collabs because everybody
is doing collabs and it's almost like if your album
doesn't have it, like, well, then go back and find one. Right.
It almost feels like that's the native in Nashville right
now as you still are introducing yourself very much to
fans every day, is there any party that's like cool?
Collabs are great, but like we're going to establish who
(13:21):
I am first before like I just start being just
singing hooks for everybody else. Yeah, I that for you.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yeah, I haven't done an official collab yet, and I've
kind of been waiting for a very special moment, and
we have some special moments coming up which are which
is exciting, definitely on the horizon. But this first part
of the project that's coming out soon, it's just there's
no collaps. It's just all me, and I feel like
I had to kind of rewind and introduce people to like, Okay,
(13:49):
now you heard my hit, you maybe heard a couple songs,
but let's rewind and let's talk about where I came.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
From and why I do what I do. And why
I show up the way I show up because y'all
have no idea. You just call me the boots girl,
you know. So let's back it up.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
I have to ask because anybody that watches the video
portion of this interview, there was a big smile, face
was glowing a little bit when you said there's special
things coming. So I have to say, is there a
collab on the horizon. I'm not going to ask you
to name names or give release dates, but like, is
there something set in stone, Like, hey, we are going
to do something and it's going to happen you know
this year?
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Yes, not this year?
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Got it? But soon yes, Well we can't wait to
see what you and Morgan want. What I was kidding
when I say I always look over at the label
in case of like you will edit that out now
start over.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Hey, Morgan, hit me up, hit me up. I haven't
met yet, but big.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Fan, that's speaking of meeting. You have a name that
compete pronounced more than one way. Oh my god, and
I've heard it all I got but like, here's the thing.
I hate that for you. Yeah, because I've heard other
artists the same and they go, just call me whatever
and it's like, hell, no, that's you're right. Yeah, So
(15:04):
what's what's the worst introduction wise, You've gotten the name
like somebody just butchered the hell out of.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
I had an interview the other day and he pronounced
my name three different ways during during the interview, and
I was like, this is impressed. I think he was
freaking out inside obviously, because he could tell.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
If we weren't recording, I'd guess the name just to
be a dick. But I'm not going I.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Got I get Daisha all the time, dashaw sometimes, which
makes no goddamn sense. It's dash. People come yeah, just
call me dash. It's so easy.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
If you're a French or Italian I can see.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Or like Russian Dasha. But it's not. In middle school,
I got called Dousha. That one hurt. Yeah, So.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
That's funny. Tom Martins is still called.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
That Is that right? I knew he got along for
some reason.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Trauma speaking of God, trauma, What a great segue. There
is something that Hey and I love to get, like
in the weeds with artists, okay, and speaking to Keith,
he gave us a phenomenal answer. Because mental health for
artists was never a priority it was like, keep Oh,
(16:24):
you made a hit, where's the next one? Give me
the next five?
Speaker 3 (16:28):
You're tired?
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Yeah, you won the weekend off not in the cool
maybe in December, you're like, but it's like it's April
with As fast as things took off for you, i'd
imagine mental health took a back seat. So you don't
have to share anything you don't want to. But how
(16:50):
did you get to a place and maybe you're not
even there yet, how did you get to a place
where you're like, hey, I have to be a priority
at some point before like I go crazy, and y'all
don't get If I go crazy, y'all don't get paid
no more.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Yeah, exactly, I got really bad.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Like last September, I was dating this guy who was
like literally my emotional support animal, and then we broke
up and that just sent me off the deep end,
as you can probably imagine. Yea, not even because I
was I mean, I was sad about the breakup, but
it was just like I didn't have anywhere to ground
myself too, and it was really scary. So I learned
(17:30):
that I need I need the groundingness. I need to
go play pick a ball.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
With my friends.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
I need to go to the grocery store and cook
my own dinner and them in town. I need to
not text anyone for twenty four hours sometimes, Like there's
just like simple things that everyone needs. And just because
I have I live in the public eye, doesn't mean
I don't need it too, you know, And.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
I think also there's been times when fans have come
up to me when like one night, I was in
the airport and I was just having a classic mint
t be absolute breakdown, sitting on the floor, hat sunglasses on,
like crying, okay, and.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Sometimes you just gotta do that, okay.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
And I'm in the airport and these fans come up
to me and they're like, are you Dasha, And I
literally look at them, I take off my sunglasses. I'm like,
I am and I love you, and I am in
no picure. I'm in no state to take a picture
right now. And I hope you understand that, and just
having that real connection like I am a person in
some fugly sweatpants right now, sobbing my eyes out and
(18:28):
I love you, but do not ask for a picture
right now.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
And it's just like setting that boundary, I think is
really healthy.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
So I've kind of learned that I'm a people pleaser,
recovering people pleaser, and we're trying to miss you.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Know, and listen. But like the boundary thing doesn't make
you bad, no, and the unfortunate thing is as much
as you can explain it, right. And there's some people
in your life that like give them an explanation so
they don't hate you. But like other people, it's like, dude, dude, dude,
what if I was going to the bathroom straight bathroom? Yeah,
(19:02):
because like I'm in a moment where I just need
me and don't be around you. I'll sign something. Let
me sign something.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Easy, exactly.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
And I think, honestly, like having that rapport fans is
really important to me because the whole relationship of like
artists fan is so like I'm above you, and I
think it's so backwards and weird because at the end
of the day, like I'm not better than you just
because I make music and you know about it. It's
I don't like that dynamic at all, and I think
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it makes it like needy and like frantic and scary
and like that's how you get chased down the street,
and that's how people show up to your house. But
if you just like are so human with him, it
kind of breaks that, like, oh you're a god. We're
just all humans together. So I've been trying to practicing
that when I can. But also I'm just a girl.
(19:52):
So we're trying our best.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Think you're doing great musically. In between now and the
rest of the year. I things are still burning red
hot for your wise and schedule wise. Where's some downtime
that you've intentionally placed in between now and the end
of the year.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
I have some off time at Christmas.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Not till December.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Well, okay, that's not true. I'm going home for Thanksgiving.
And the last year I was in the Thanksgiving parade.
I don't know if you saw lips.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Should we talk about it?
Speaker 1 (20:21):
No, let me tell you no, it was great. Don't
worry about it. Listen, regardless of them, just a girl.
First of all. First of all, that's on them, not.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Youatting rhythmsic over my face.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
That was on me. Let's be real, and let's be
so real.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
You're drowning. I'm trying to throw you a life preserver.
Just grab it and we'll move on. So will you
have downtime over Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Yeah, I'm gonna go home and I do you know
about blackout Wednesday? It's the Wednesday before Thanksgiving and then
that's all the high school homies pull up to that
local bar.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
We go to Frog and Peach, okay, and it's the
most fun.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
You just said you get high school kids drunk.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
No high school homies. Oh, I mean, maybe depends.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
I just want to see what tom I would say
about that.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
But yeah, it's the best day of her So I
made sure I'm off because I want to go to
black I wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Say as you should. That's it's funny because when you
work where we work, we do the same thing. Really,
but it's not it's not celebrating.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
It's oh coping, it's coping. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's
a little bit of both.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Nobody will hear this part of the interview, so you
know we will clip it, clip it. Give me the
best tour story. You got best tour story because you
had mentioned Thomas rhtt. Obviously you've been on the road
and you have festivals. You're bumping into big names. So
give us, give us a cool This isn't like a
weird like. Give us a secret, but like, what's a
cool story that you're like, Man, this is something I'll
(21:47):
remember forever.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
I have.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
I have the perfect one, okay, so and I have
a picture to go along with it that can be
an asset later. So it was the last night of
my portion of the Veteran Boots tour with tr and Tucker.
We more and uh Tucker and I've gotten really close
because her stars kind of rose at the same time,
so we've just been everywhere at the same time, and
(22:08):
we just became really good friends this past like year
and a half. So we had the idea hanging out
like the previous weekend. I was like, we need to
do an end of tour prank on tr. It's my
last show next weekend. We gotta do something. And He's like,
I'm so in and I was like, oh my god,
I have an idea. So I would go up and
sing Heads Carolina with tr you know, and uh Tucker
(22:29):
would usually go up right after and do small Town Girls.
And so I was like, Tucker, what if we clip
in some of my extensions to your hair. Okay, put
it on a little ball cap, put on a little
tank top that I would wear, and you go out.
I'll be seeing inside stage and you go out for me,
and you walk out, and we're gonna go see TR's
(22:50):
face when you walk out in my fucking extensions and
start singing this song, okay, and then during the chorus, I'm.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Gonna walk out dressed as you.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
I'm gonna get a little mustache on and all that thing,
maybe even drow some abs on. I'm gonna walk out,
and then we're both gonna be on stage with him,
dressed up as each other and sing this song together.
And he's like At first he was like hell yeah,
and then he was like, I don't know. Once the
extensions came out, he was like I don't know, man,
And then we tried them on in the bus.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
And he was like feeling himself. So I'm like, it's happening. Okay.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Unfortunately that was a show that got lightning out, so
it never happened. I know, I know, but it could
still happen. And then I told tr about it and
he was so upset because that was so funny. But
the good news is I have a picture of Tucker
with my extensions in so.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
You guys forever, yep, Hey, I appreciate you. Thanks for
taking time to hang, Thanks for having me
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