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August 15, 2018 15 mins

Crush to Judgment this week and Chuck and Noel dissect Marvel's latest entry into the MCU, Ant-Man and the Wasp!

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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Hey, everybody, welcome to movie Crush Crush through judgment. Why
are you so judge? Man? I know, yeah, I'm kidding,
you're not. It's just the idea of being of reviewing
movies so inherently dick ish, you know, But I don't know.
I I like it. But we talked about this in
the last episode, the poll about awards and you know,

(00:47):
judging art and stuff and all that happens. Yeah, but
you know what, I think they're h I love legit
um film criticism and grew up reading Roger Ebert in
uh you know Maslin and uh Travers and some of
those are still around. Who no, no, no, you're right there.
That's it's good. It's good writing. I'm I'm joking really um,

(01:09):
and I now here we're gonna proceed to do the
very thing I'm talking about. You know who I want
to have on the show is Paul Shears, co host
on Unspoiled Amy Nichols. Yeah, she's great. I need to
listen to that. I'm a really big fan of How
did This get Mad? And I need to check out
them talking about actual good movies. Yeah, man, Unspoiled is
really good. I'm a huge fan, and she's just lovely
and wonderful, and I'm sure I'll be able to hook

(01:30):
that up. I don't want to do it remotely. I
want to go out and meet face to face because
those are the best interviews everybody. So this week we're
going to be reviewing aunt Man in the Wasp, a
movie that Nolan I each saw, and this was directed
by Peyton Reid, who I believe also did the first
aunt Man, uh, starring Paul Rudd is aunt Man and

(01:52):
then Evangeline Lily, who I still have a crush on
after all these years. She looks like exactly the same, exactly,
this is crazy. She's the Wasp. And uh, Michael Pania,
the Great Walton Goggins also from Georgia is in this movie,
the wonderful Bobby Kinnavolli and Judy Greer, and of course

(02:12):
t I is in this movie. Atlanta's own that's right,
he's uh he works in the office there in the security. Yeah,
he's he's like Michael Pania's cohort one or three guys. Uh.
And then of course other roles um very significant in
this film, at least Michelle Peiffer and Michael Douglas of course,
and as Pim and Laurence Fishburn makes an appearance as well.

(02:33):
So have you hit her cast for aunt Man in
the Wasp. I saw the original Aunt Man. I liked it,
and I liked aunt Man in the Wasp even more,
I think, really more. I think so it definitely like
took some of the things that were cool about the
first one and just sort of like doubled down on him. Um,
that's a lot more stuff in the what do you
call it in the micro verse or whatever with a

(02:57):
little you know, what do they call that? Oh, you
mean the quantum realm? Quantum realm? Thank you, Chuck, thank you. Yeah,
there was a lot of stuff in there, and that
was some of the stuff I really thought was visually
awesome from the first one, and they managed to really
make it an interesting part of the story. Yeah. I agree.
And you know what, here's my deal with aunt Man
in these sort of Um it's not a slag to

(03:19):
call it a second tier Marvel movie, but it's not
the Avengers, um, But like Thor Ragnarok and aunt Man
and these sort of smaller, uh smaller Marvel movies, if
you can call them that. I love I think they're great.
Um Is aunt Man in the Wasp the best movie
of the summer? No, But to me it was a
lot of fun. I would go see any of these

(03:40):
Marvel movies and generally enjoy them all to varying degrees,
and Aunt Man that's certainly no uh no exception. I
had taken my kid to see the first one UM
when it came out, and we saw this one together,
and that that kind of colored my viewing of it
because it is kind of it's not a kids movie,
but it has sort of goofball over the top energy

(04:02):
to it that really works for a kid, Like he
really really liked it, Um, And the beginning of it
just just I don't know how much we want to
go into the plot, but like he Um is under house, arressed,
and he's going crazy because of the past event. Is
going crazy in his house. He's got all these like
ways to like do fun stuff with his kid without
leaving the house. So he's built this whole like cardboard

(04:23):
world where like they're um crawling through like doing some
kind of heist or something because he's obviously a professional thief. Um.
And then there's a whole scene where like they get
shot out onto a staircase that he's built like a
slide on. So it's really cute. It's it reminded me
of like nineties like kind of Robin Williams. He kind

(04:44):
of vibes, you know, the whole family fun war kind
of like you know, creative dad thing. I don't. I
liked it a lot. Yeah, I did too. Man, there's
some it's such a likable movie. Paul Rudd is such
a likable guy generally. Uh. That contraption that they built
is just so much fun. Um. The scenes with Bobby
Kinna Vali and Judy Greer as his ex wife and

(05:04):
her new husband. Uh, it's it really is sort of
a uh, sort of bends the trope of the ex
wife and new husband where it's usually like a strained
relationship or something. And they just adore uh Paul Red's
character in this movie. Uh, and it's it's really funny
when they see each other. They're also so loving and
Bobby kind of all he's always trying to get a hug. Yeah,

(05:26):
he's only in it a few times. Yeah, I know,
he's he's really great. Um, and uh, Michael Penia is hilarious.
He's just so motor mouth and like always talking, always talking,
Oh exactly, that's sort of his character. But there's a
part that really plays up to that beautifully where he
gets injected with the truth serum and the guy, the
guy he's injecting and keeps saying he's like this truth serum.

(05:48):
He's like, there's no such thing as truth serum. He's like,
but it's his truth serum. He's like, no, And he
gives this like overly drawn out, like scientific explanation of
what it's about to do, and it's basically exactly what
a truth serum sounds like. But in seem he's asking
him what the whereabouts of um, aunt Man are, and
he sort of like says, where is he? And he

(06:08):
goes into this very like dramatic, long winded thing about
where he is mentally kind of and part of it
involves the story about his childhood or his like grandmother
and a restaurant of some kind had with a jukebox
that has only Morrissey songs, right, and that's the thing
in the Latino community. Morrissey is like this huge figure

(06:31):
for the first time, and I was like, I had
no idea. I didn't either, and he says in the
movie says, I think he just um perfectly encompasses our
melancholy spirit or something something like that. He calls a
mos and and the ringtone for Penia's character is um,
every day is like Sunday. It's pretty great, which is awesome?
Didn't wasn't there another Smith's ring tone in it? Or

(06:52):
was that? Or was it just the same one over
and over? I think that's the only one. It's always him. Yeah,
I can remember um, nice little And that's Morrisey's so
hello though dog, not Smith's cannon. Was it was that
on his first solo? I think every Days look Sunday
in a suicide. It is Morrissey. You're right. I love Morrissey.

(07:16):
He's He's my spirit animal right now. I'm Morrissey's hell
right now. I was on Viva eight Va eight great
great record. Uh yeah, so um. The basic premise of
this movie is essentially Hank Pim, who is Michael Douglas.

(07:41):
His his wife has been as has been disappeared and
I guess fear dead for many, many years. And I
believe they find out she is somewhere in the quantum realm,
and I believe they can get her back because Scott,
you know, aunt Man's character has now gone into the
quantum realm, and he had this dream him about them

(08:01):
being together, and so this sort of brings everyone back
together because aunt Man is Scott is estranged from Evangeline
Lillian Michael Douglas at the beginning, and Michelle Peiffer was there. Yeah,
well she was the wife. She's the wife. Age appropriate
for a change, Michael literally year old. I know. And
you notice the subtle thing they do with the A

(08:21):
Man movies where when it's flashbacks of Pim being younger,
they use c G I to make him look younger. Yeah,
it's pretty well done. Totally agree, and that stuff like
uh like in the I didn't even see it, but
I saw enough of the bits and pieces from the
Tron sequel to know that the Jeff Bridges job did
not look so great, not so good. No, but this
looks really believable. Like I find myself looking at it

(08:44):
and me like, man, they're they're really catching up because
they can have that uncanny valley field where it's just
like this is making me really uncomfortable. No, so Pim
has he's he's got some pretty crazy research that he's
done in order to get back into the quantum realm
to rescue his wife, because in the very first scene,
it's the flashback of when they're going to fight the

(09:07):
Russians or someone's launching a missile and you know they're there.
They have to you know, their aunt man on the
Wasp at that point, and his wife gets stuck in
the quantum realm. Have you said all this already? Uh? Well,
I didn't say how she got stuck. She gets stuck
in the quantum realm because she can. She has to
break through the missile casing in order to um disarmed

(09:27):
the bomb, and the only way she can do that
is by shrinking herself, sacrificing yourself, shrinking to that quantum
level of being able to go in between the molecules
of of the of the missile, like knowing she can't
come back, knowing she can't come back, And so is
the deal then that I believe the deal is that
the technology catches up and he finally figures out how
to bring someone out of the quantum realm. He figures

(09:48):
it out. And also there's this synchronicity between Scott and
her because he's he's having like visions where he's in
her body or she's in his body, or they're like
a body swapping for a really great scene where that
that that's played for laughs. But pretty pretty simple story.
And then there's a pretty simple villain that is like
trying to just get the technology. So it's it's a

(10:10):
little bit. It's it's a very straightforward movie, which I
kind of liked, and it has some really fun set
pieces and some you know, Scott, you know, aunt man
gets to get really big and swim around Fisherman's wharf,
which is really fun. G I liked it when he
was big, yeah, and you know, would get caught in between.
There's a funny sequence where he's like a foot and
a half tall and can't get as small as he

(10:32):
needs or as big as he needs, right because things
are I believe the suit is malfunctioning because he lost
supposedly the original suit. Yeah, and then this is the
new suit, but it's it's it's jacked up. It's like
a bat type or something like that. And so when
he can only grow to about a certain middle height,
he has to pretend to be like a school kid
and go, yeah, that's it is quite funny. It reminds

(10:53):
me of the scene in Deadpool too. Have seen dead Pool?
I haven't seen. There's a hilarious scene in that where
he because a little with Deadpool is he can get
his limbs blown off and they grow back, but it
takes time and they're like baby limbs for a little while.
So there's one part where he's like got tiny legs
and like a normal sized dong and everyone is just

(11:14):
looking at him like, and he's just like what, it's
really funny. Oh man, I can't believe I have seen
that yet, because I love that first Deadpool. Um. And
the other thing I liked about this was and part
of the fun of aunt Man is all the different
ways you can play with size, and in this one,
they're the technology had had grown such that, uh, with

(11:34):
remote controls, you can shrink all kinds of things. And
one of the kind of plot points was they could
shrink their lab to the point where it was like
a rollerboard suitcase. And you know this building like was
had everything in it, Like you could shrink the lab
down and then all of a sudden that could be
stolen and thrown in the back of a car. Yeah.
I had some problems with that though, did you, well,

(11:55):
only because like they just happened to find all these
vacant lots, or they can a full fucking building, you know,
to to full size with you, and no one notices,
and no one like notices when it just shrinks and disappears. Oh,
come on, you gotta get over that, all right. I mean,
I'm I gotta grab about something I like the movie. Uh.
The thing I like too was the cars. They get

(12:17):
to play with cars in this one a lot, which
is fun, and it keeps them in like one of
those hot wheels cases when you were a kid and
you kept like in this tire shape little case, you
could get any car and have the car. Yeah, he
just yeah, And I thought that that was a lot
of fun. Was a fun device. Yeah. The way they
played with all the things that you could now shrink
was definitely a lot of fun. And I love the
fact that this movie is about being able to be

(12:39):
shrunk to the quantum realm and your problem is facing lots.
You're right, Chuck, I'm gonna take a long, hard look
at myself. That's funny though. Um. And then you know
it ends uh with a you know, it's just sort
of a nice light movie and a nice satisfying light ending. Yeah,

(12:59):
it's great doing like a drive in movie with a laptop. Yeah,
and like they're all shrunk and you don't realize they're shrunk.
It's it's, it's it's really nice. It's a very nice, family,
warm kind of movie. Like there's some there's some tension
and some stress, but it's all manageable. Man, everything's all good.
No one's ever like that in peril. Really, you know,

(13:19):
So how many thumbs are we gonna give this out
of what are we going with? Five? We have five thumbs? Yeah,
you know in the Marvel universe, I'm gonna give this.
I'm gonna give this a solid uh for four thumbs. Yeah,
it's a good fourth thumber. Uh. It's The thing I
liked about it is just it's it's it's not challenging,
it's it's it's nice. And and it also is visually
stimulating and all the psychedelic Quantum Realms starts right up

(13:42):
my alley and there's lots of good action and the
writing is super snappy. It's just it moves. And I
saw it with my kid and we both left feeling good.
It's great. That's what the movie should do in the summertime. Uh,
and then you know we should mention briefly and this
is a super spoiler the end credit sequence, or even
more notably, the mid credit sequence. Uh. We you know,

(14:05):
he's in the quantum Realm comes back and there are
three piles of ash. So obviously this is a talie
in two Avengers Infinity War and uh, the Wasp Part
one and two, while the whole family basically is gone. Yeah, Bomber,
all Red survives Bomber. I'm really glad I didn't stick

(14:27):
around for that mid credit sequence. I was really riding.
Did you leave? I did leave. I thought you stuck
around for all that stuff. No, it depends, man, it's
only if it's Harry Potter related. Um. But now I
was with my kid and like, you know, we were
hungry and stuff, and I I always sometimes I space
on those credit sequences. But actually literally just read today
that it was a pretty cool one and that it
did tie in. But that's kind of a bummer though.

(14:48):
It's like that was feeling good at the end of
that movie. I don't want to be bummed out by
that ship. Yeah, but you know, it's you know, no
that's gonna stick anyway. Well, I know, but it's still
makes me think of poor little Peter Parker saying so good, good,
my lord. All right, so that's it. I think we um.
I think four thumbs, eight thumbs total. We're almost a

(15:11):
complete human, I know it. What if we were all
what if we only had thumbs? You ever think about that?
That'd be crazy. Well that's what the movie would be called,
all thumbs right there? All right, thanks everyone for tuning in.
Then I'm gonna see if I can watch another couple
of these movies at Noli scene lately, and we'll do
a couple of more crush to judgments in the coming weeks.

(15:31):
But thanks for tuning in, and go check out aunt
Man and the Wasp. Great movie. Yeah, good time at
the movie, Good time at the cinema.

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