Mallorie Coleman on Jurassic Park

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Speaker 1 (00:25):
Hey, everybody, Welcome to Movie Crush Friday Interview edition here
at Pont City Market in Atlanta, Georgia. And I had
my old friend Mallory Coleman in today everyone to talk
about Jurassic Park. Just a little little indie film called
Jurassic Park. No Biggie Mallory I met she was another
stuff you should know TV crew member. Uh. And in fact,

(00:47):
I just learned and that's our conversation we just had
that that was one of her first paying jobs, which
is crazy. I never knew that because she was she
certainly didn't seem like a green horn on set. She
did great and Ali, Uh, Mallory and I were uh
piled up on the TV show like we did with
Raymond Carr and Craig and Karen who all of them

(01:08):
have been on the show as well. It's just such
a great experience. And I kind of lost touch with
Mallory a little bit. She's um, she's not the greatest facebooker,
which is awesome. Neither am I. That's a positive thing.
But as a result, I haven't really kept up with
her as much. And it was just a lot of
fun to see her again and get her in here.
She still works in the art department. She's done a
variety of jobs, um over the years in that capacity.

(01:31):
But I don't want to ruin it because we talk
about what she's doing now and why, and what she
loves about her current work and some of the cool
movie she's worked on and TV shows here in Atlanta
over the past few years. Really cool stuff, Mallory. It's
just the best. And we had a great, great time
talking about the now you know, iconic film from Steven

(01:52):
Spielberg in Jurassic Park. So give it a listen to everyone.
Here we go with Mallory Coleman on Jurassic Park. What
are you working on now? Um, I'm doing this show
called Fear Street. Like the R. L. Stein books from

(02:13):
the nineties. Did you read those were? Yeah? Oh yeah,
I loved it. Yeah, and it's I don't know, I'm
not sure if I'm allowed to talk about it, okay
public Yeah, yeah, right, So you're just working on Fear
Street and that's it. They shot some of the goose
Bumps stuff here too. Yeah. I think they're trying to
kind of capitalize. But it's really fun because it's period.

(02:35):
It's like a trilogy, so each movie takes place in
a different time period, and it's really fun for me.
You get to like, now, what's your official title? Now? Um,
I'm a set decoration buyer. Okay, oh you're the buyer,
so you're not on set much, no, never on set anymore?
Really do you like that better? Hours? Yeah? It works
better for me. I had a couple of bad experiences

(02:58):
with actors really uh, well, you know, doing props and things.
People are just terrible, like creeps, just all sorts of
different things. Just I mean, you don't have to get
into it overly, No, like overly um people who just
like have a self inflated sense of themselves, you know,

(03:18):
and their attitudes and people just like yelling at you
all the time and out. And I really liked set
dressing war and was like, yeah, props do isn't really
for me. I don't want to like refill your coffee, right.
I liked making them when we were doing that, But yeah,
I think the distinction for like listeners to this show

(03:39):
is unclear. So like break it down, props onset, they're
dealing with everything you touch. Okay, so that's a very
sent way to put it. Coffees and these waters props
is keeping up with that continuity. Uh, your wedding ring,
your guns. Yeah, weapons, They're just keeping up with like
all the continue it, all the things that are happening.

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They have little bags. It's like the character bag, and
it's you know, all the stuff, and there's parts of
it that's fun. But on set and then on st
dressing is also keeping up with continuity. But like with
the furniture, like, oh, we have to move all this
stuff away so the camera can go here. Okay, now
move it back right, the hustle and bustle. I think

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I remember hearing that one time, which is a good
way to put it, Like as soon as they touch something,
it becomes a proper Yeah, unless it's like a giant
piece of furniture or something, then it's still dressing. But
I like said dressing too because I felt like I
got to do more stuff and I got to do
a lot of different things, like more creative stuff, well
just having more agency over what you're doing, like getting

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to be more part of it in that way. I mean,
I loved being on set and we did it so
much fun. Right, No, you're great, You're totally great and
some and that was super fun. And but as I
sort of grew in the business and try different things
and more ways, I discovered that yeah, yeah, addressing was

(05:10):
the path that I wanted to follow. That's awesome. And
that's the thing, like, you know, and I've talked about
this before, back when I was at p A. That's
the way you find out what you want to do.
You get on a set and you just, I think
naturally probably gravitate towards a department. Yeah, either what they're
doing or the people are both. And then once you
kind of eke towards that department, then they are all

(05:32):
the little sub jobs within that department, and then you
do those and you're like, well this kind of stunk
or this was really fun, and before you know it,
you're you're ingratiating yourself to uh, you know, whatever group
you're with. Yeah, and I got to do a lot
of different things when I first started, because I was
doing indie projects and you know, commercial, the reality show

(05:54):
and you know a little bit of this, a little
bit of that. Well that too, like what jobs you
want to work on? Yeah, you know, so I got
to wear a lot of hats, you know, and try
them all on and be like, oh cool, you know,
I'd rather do this than that, and now here I am. Yeah, fighting,
which I love to do. It's super fun. So a

(06:14):
lot of renting and or shopping. Basically, like the way
that David put it, My partner was like, you, your
job is like finding stuff, right, However, whatever that thing is,
why is it always so impossible too? I remember that
whenever I was sitting on a run, like, even if
it was just something personal, it always seemed to be

(06:36):
some very impossible to find thing. Yeah it is, well
there's eight other things that are just like it. No,
that's not it. And you're also trying to find a
lot of things at once where you're like, okay, yeah, no,
I know, we have this giant room to do and
we have all these different little bits, but there's this
one really specific bit that you have to get and

(06:57):
not only do we want it, but we want it
right now. We wanted this more name, we wanted in
ten minutes. Can you get that? Just set like, come on, Millary,
let's go. Yeah. I mean there was a lot of pressure. Yeah,
because everything they need yesterday. Yes, there's some patients in
the film. And I think that's also why I like
being offset, because when you're on set, it's like hurry
up and wait. You're like running around like maniacs, and

(07:20):
then you have to stop, and then they're rolling, and
then you're not doing anything, and I just I can't
do it. I have to be having another thing to,
you know. And that's what's fun about set dressing. And
I'm so crazy, but it's like it's never done, and
always find more stuff, or you could be working on
the next thing or the next set or whatever, or

(07:41):
trying to return something from the last set that somebody
forgot about somewhere. I went by Pullman Yards the other
day for people listening. It's this big sort of old
train depot in Atlanta near my neighborhood where they just
shoot tons of stuff because like everything from Hunger Games
to so much stuff. I mean, just whatever you name it.
It probably if it came to Atlanta, shot at Pullman

(08:03):
and they're shooting bad boys there now, which you probably know.
And they made a giant Yeah. I had a friend
working on it that it was crazy things and she
was like, oh, yeah, it's supposed to be a you know, canal.
They made it into another city. There were palm trees
and there were boats and a dock, and I was like,

(08:24):
are you kidding me? But that's the magic of the
film business. Well, and that's what's so funny about Atlanta too,
is that, you know, of all the stuff that films here,
of it is not Atlanta. You know, it's like Atlanta
as New York, Chicago, Atlanta as Arkansas, like whatever. You know.

(08:44):
We have a lot of different environments to do that,
which is cool. But sometimes it's really funny. Like I
worked on the Shaft movie that's coming out this and
they did you know, like Harlem in downtown Atlanta, and
I had my moments where I was like, Okay, like sure, yeah,
it could totally. I'm like, yeah, why not? I buy it? Yeah,

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But it was it was fun. That's one reason I
loved Baby Driver so much because it was set in Atlanta,
and it was just nice to finally see like people
talking about Atlanta and just seeing Atlanta police cars. And
that's something he rewrote it for Atlanta. Oh really Yeah.
I was like, originally set to take place in l
A and then you know, tax credits blah blah blah

(09:28):
brought them here and I think I read something about
it somewhere. It's just he wanted it to be more
authentic to the city since it had so many of
those moments and those beats in it. And yeah, just
like readesign the movie to be Atlanta. I bet Pullman
Yards was in that. Oh it was. It's the Warehouse
where the gun Horse. Yeah, because David worked on that

(09:48):
one too. Now this is your partner. He's in the
movie business. Yeah, he's a rigging electrician. Oh cool. Yeah,
it does the same sort of lighting, fun stuff, least power. Yeah,
that's great. Um, what else have you worked on? Now?
I know you worked on Tania my favorite project of
all time? Is it really? Yeah? Because I had a
feeling it turned out that was one of those movies

(10:10):
where I think across the board, the first thing you
hear from everyone is, oh my god, that was so
much better than I thought it was going to be. Yeah,
it was a really great movie. I read the script,
so I got the call, you know, through the six
Degrees of Film. Bus. Necessary't even remember how Adam found me,
but I interviewed for it and I read the script

(10:30):
and I was like, I will pay you to let
me work on this movie, Like it's so good. The
script was so good and like the first thing is
that opening little blurb movie where it's like based on
the wildly you know stories of Yea and it's true.
It was, and it was the guy who wrote it
interviewed them and I just love the vignettes so good.

(10:51):
It was way crazy to work on because it wasn't
a big budget and we were covering seventies to modern
day and everything was these you know, little corners of rooms.
Your little like one beat in this room, but that's
still a whole room. Yeah, just you know, like a
whole place that has to transform. And when you do

(11:11):
period stuff, you have to think about it's not just
the furniture, it's the light fixtures, it's the switch plates
in the walls, and you have to change all that
stuff out to make it authentic. Where you have like
some dumb moment where somebody sees a stainless steel fridge
in the back and they're like, right, that doesn't feel
like a yeah, that's so funny too, Like um for listeners,

(11:34):
like when you see like a montage or something in
a script, it's like it plays so well on screen,
but like you said, it's a nightmare because they might
shoot twenty different looks for that montage and like you said,
you don't just stress like these four feet. I mean
maybe sometimes you can do stuff like that, but really can't.
They want that that flexibility to like, oh, I think

(11:56):
we want to go wider here, and like, well we can't.
S Yes, sorry, but you know that happens a lot,
and especially on that kind of movie where it's like
a little bit indie, a little bit. I mean I
think it was like a ten dollar and which is
small and a lot of stuff to cover in a
small amount of time, and we had the big Olympics

(12:17):
and the ice rinks and multiple ice rinks and you
gotta make that look right, and yeah, it was a
lot of like finding computers and monitors and likes like
cameras from that time for the Olympics. Yeah, like the
press coverage and all that. And for how ridiculous it was,
I think it actually was sort of true to her story. Yeah,

(12:38):
and I loved that. I think you ampathize. Yeah, it
was weird, she came. I mean that movie could have
been I mean there may have been a movie the
Week version at some point. Oh, I think there definitely was,
But I mean it very easily could have been that,
but in the right hands and the right like writers
and directors and team. It was like Boogie Nights. For

(12:59):
that story, you were laughing and then you were crying
and you were like, oh my gosh, this is like
she's injured such horrible violence in her life, and then
you're and then she brings you right back, and then
you're like in the soundtrack is great and she was
so good good in it. I really think that she
would they didn't. I don't know. I feel like the

(13:20):
Oscars are like a like they always really snub things
that I don't know or I'm just biased. No, no, no,
I'm like you brilliant. I think that movie had a
tough road to ho for winning Oscars. Um that may
have been right at the Golden Globes. I think, yeah,
that's way more. I feel like Down to Earth and
Alison Janey one and she was she was a dream

(13:43):
and that and I remember, I don't know, I don't
get really star struck by people very often, and but
every now and then you have a moment where you're
just like walking by someone casually on set and they're
in this full outfit, carrot, this whole thing, and I
just had this moment of like, oh my god, oh
my god, because I love this. There's this really silly

(14:04):
movie called drop Dead Gorgeous. I don't know if you've ever. Yeah,
it's totally ridiculous. It's amazing, and it's that like mockumentary style,
one of those. And she is so good in it,
comedic genius and I love growing up with that movie
and it was cool, it was a dream. Yeah, that's um.
I think like most people on crew love movies, and

(14:29):
that's sort of the fun part. The weird thing is
like sometimes I feel like people hate movies or have
no interest. What are you doing? It's weird. Though occasionally
I won't name departments. There are a few departments that
maybe a little more for that, but generally it's like
a bunch of people who love making movies and either
are doing their own things or just love to get
a job where they can wear short pants for the

(14:50):
rest of their life and not go into an office.
It's like, it can be tough, it's a freelancer, but
it's also a pretty great job. It's a very welcoming
play for people that feel like they don't fit in
in other places, you know, and I think you do
have to love it because you work insane hours and
it'll just totally take over your life and then you're like, wow,

(15:13):
Like I did this movie boy Erased, and I actually
decorated half of it. Yeah, that's kind of my same
decorator Adam for my Tania was coming in town to
do that, and but he was leaving to do another movie,
and he was like, come on as my buyer and
then you can take over and decorate the rest of
the movie, which sounded, Oh my god, amazing. The Coole

(15:35):
Kidman movie. It's going to be like, oh my god,
did you kick your ass? Oh? It totally kick my ass?
Was good. I worked fifty days in a row, my god,
totally because I also, you know, I really wanted to
do a good job, and I was maybe a little understaffed,
a little overwhelmed. And it was kind of a big
jump for me because all I had decorated before that
was Standing Against Evil, which is like favorite amazing thing,

(15:58):
but very different at a very different pace, you know,
and expectations, and I'm you know, it's like, wow, Nicole
Kidman Russell Crow movie. Yet you know, and there's totally
it's like with every job. You look back and you
watch the movie and you were like, I would have
done that different. It would have done that different. But
it was a really great learning experience for me, and

(16:20):
also a good learning experience of like, oh, maybe I
need to set some boundaries with my time of like,
because it's very easy in my job when you're decorating,
I think, to become fully engrossed in it and you
just really want to bring those characters alive and you
really want to do it justice. And that story was
so did you see the movie not yet. I've heard

(16:42):
it's great. It's really heart wrenching, And I think that
was like emotionally difficult to be like when you're working
on something where the themes are so heavy, so real,
it was hard. You know. I'd be doing these certain scenes,
I'm like, oh, wow, this is going to happened later
here and it's dead staying and that's kind of hard

(17:03):
and you take that on. But I never really thought
about that. That just sort of permeates everything, doesn't I
think for some people it does. And I'm a very
empathetic person in general. I think that I I get
like way, and I do that with shows and with
something that I'm really interested. I'll just go all in,
like I want to research every part of this and
I want to live this story. I really loved that

(17:26):
because it felt a lot like my upbringing, not necessarily
from my parents, but like where I lived. I grew
up in Well, my family is all from Florida and
they live there now, but I went to we grew
up and went to school here in the suburbs in
peach Trie City, and it was that environment Christian churches, republican,

(17:49):
closed minded, and I was growing up and that it
takes place in the early two thousand's and yeah, I remember,
just people are terrible, like people are truly now is
it a it's about conversion. It's about gay conversion. Yeah. Yeah.
It's like he's a teenager, his parents send him off
to do this. It's horrible and reading about it is

(18:10):
so horrible. And Joel Edgerton wrote it, directed it started it.
I don't think I knew that boy. He's got the goods.
He's so wildly underrated, like he because I always like, oh,
Joel Edgerton talking about him, and people are like that,
who I'm like, He's in so much stuff. You just
don't realize that because he changes his whole you know well,

(18:30):
and he's really like coming into his own as a director.
He's a great direct he's just getting started. And I
feel like that I think he did the story justice.
You know, like they did have to cut a lot
for time, so it's like weird seeing it and seeing
how much of the story had to be cut. I'm
sure my heart a lot because I was like, oh,
that whole set that I because I was so tired. Yeah,

(18:56):
it's you can't be attached, yeah, right, because you do
all this work, you put everything into it, and then
the director comes in and they're like, actually, you know what,
I want to shoot in the other room next door,
so can you? I mean, this is fine, but like
you know, you can't have You just have to be
proud of the work that you did and you got paid,

(19:19):
so it's fine. Everything's fine. I know though, Like I've
I've had those moments back when I was just doing
like a minor art department stuff of of you get
so my opic of whatever the desk and then they're like,
oh I don't like that, like just into that. Do
you know the links that I went to to like

(19:39):
because I mean I'm crazy like that though. I'll you know,
be home visiting my parents and go to a thrift
store and I find like the perfect couch. I'm like,
I gotta bring this couch back to work. Those things great,
Like I gotta have it. And then it's like, doesn't
even get used, goes into my basement with the rest
of all the weird stuff. But do you have siblings.
I do. I have an older sister and a much

(20:02):
older brother. Now, were you guys paneling around and like
doing the movie stuff as a kid, Like, when did
this interest take root? Not? I always loved movies. I
always consumed movies and books. I was sort of I
wasn't like an indoor kid. I played outside my sister
a lot, but I really enjoyed getting into other worlds
because you could say, and like Red constantly was always

(20:25):
wanting to watch movies anytime my parents would let me.
And I also, so I'm the youngest by a lot.
So my brothers eighteen years older than me and my sister. Yeah,
same mom, different dads, you know, the whole thing. But
he's my brother. Uh, my sister is only about four
years older than me. I was kind of surprised. I
think one of the so by the time it got

(20:46):
to me, my parents were really like, whatever, cool, You're fine. Yeah.
I watched Dirty Dancing when I was like four or
five years old. That movie talks about abortion and like
all sorts of the strong themes, you know. I was
just thinking that movie, he's not that but then four
or five years but my parents just kind of they
really trusted me, and that's something that they always have

(21:08):
and really given me a kind of the freedom to
explore and feel safe and not be worried. And I
I mean, I was watching horror movies when I was
really young, like anything I can get my hands on,
and it's so life, life long love of movies. And
then I went to college for photography, where uh started
a Georgia State went to the Art Institute. While I

(21:29):
was at the Art Institute, UM, it was really like
studio based, which I didn't really like. I wanted to
I like field photography. I wanted to develop in the
dark room. I basically wanted to grow up to be
a photographer in like ninet, like like I didn't have
any interests and like where photography was going. I wanted
to go back and like I grew up like obsessed

(21:51):
national geographic. I'm going to take pictures across the world,
right of course, equipment, yeah, and so but I really
liked building my studio sets because I do that. So
that was something that's kind of where it started. Went
back to George State so I could play in the
dark room. It was kind of just like powering around whatever.

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But I realized that I would have to do another
additional two years to get a b f A. And photography.
I was like, I don't want to do that. I
just want to be done on the real world, like
doing things. So I was like looking at other majors
where I could still take all of my photography classes
that I wanted to do as a minor. And so
I had some friends in the film program. Was like

(22:32):
They're like all we do is watch movies and write papers.
It's like I love watching movie. It's like this is
going to be amazing, you know, but if I have
to get there. So yeah, I majored in film and
did make a movie in college. But with my photography classmates,
we did like the campus movie fest sort of thing

(22:53):
and we won. Wasn't it was it was like some
short about this like woman who has ended up. She's
like cooking the whole time, and then at the end
of it you realized that she was like eating a person.
It was like a heart, but it was like really
it was you can totally tell as made by photography
students because we're like overly artsy, Like really, you know,

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I don't remember. It was good enough to win campus
movie fest, like traveled around and that's when it kind
of started that she was like this is really fun,
like maybe I could do this. So I graduated and
I was going to move and travel and moved all
my stuff home to Florida. I was like, I'm gonna
go meet my sister in Europe and we're gonna travel
the world. It's gonna be great. So I was babysitting.

(23:36):
I was like still kind of house sitting, babysitting whatever,
and I um a few months before I had developed
this crazy anaphylectric shock response to mustard freak accident, and
we were like, Okay, this is a weird one off
Rando like almost died at the drunken unicorn kind of thing.
I was wheeled out a book house on a stretcher. Yeah,

(23:57):
it was crazy. Why did you mustard at the Drunken Unicorn. Well,
so I was my best friend worked a book house
at the time, and I was eating dinner there and
then I went to the show at the Drunken Unicorn
and I was like, man, I feel weird, like my like,
is it all the smoke. I walked back to the
book house, and Cassie, my best friend, was like, dude,
your face, something's wrong. You're something's wrong. And within like

(24:20):
five minutes, I was having a seizure in the kitchen. Yeah,
it was totally crazy. But all that to say, I thought, Okay,
one off, no big deal. So I'm babysitting. It happens again.
It's really bad and I have to EpiPen myself and
it mustard again. It was mustard again, but through like
cross contamination. Yeah. So I really developed like horrible anxiety

(24:43):
best traumatic stress from it. But my parents were like, dude,
you can't go to foreign countries where you can't speak
the language, you can't ask that, you have no way,
like you're way too sensitive to it right now, Like
this is a terrible idea. You can't do this. Like yeah, yes,
you're right. So I move in with dear friend and
like four other roommates into this tiny room who all

(25:03):
hated Mustard, who are just great and love or like
never surfing Mustard, And I was like, what am I
going to do? Like I have to? I was bartending
like I need to I need to do something with
my life. I need to kind of like doing a
little bit of photography, but realizing that that's not really
where I wanted to go, and was helping some of
my friends like make shorts and comedy things that they

(25:24):
were doing. This is really fun. I need to do this,
like this is what I should do. I have this
really cheap room. How old are you at this point?
I was I was in college for like six years.
I was that's fine, it's fine. This is two thousand eleven.
So I, you know, just start telling everybody that'll listen,

(25:46):
I want to do this. I want to do this.
Do you know anybody that does this? Like I want
to get into movies? How can I do it? And
then one day my friend Geane was like, oh, you
should meet Raymond. Yeah, Raymond car Everybody She's like, she's
he's doing a pilot and needs some help on this pilot.
And that pilot was stuff you should know shut up. Yeah,

(26:06):
that was the first thing. Well, it was the first
sort of entrance, not job. I mean, it was like,
this was January. It was like the beginning, that little
pilot thing of January of two twelve, and that was
like it was the first person that actually because I
had been you know, talking to people and making all
these shorts with my friends and those kind of things,
but this was the first time that someone was like, yeah,

(26:27):
come in turn on my project. Wow, that's great. Yeah.
So I did that and me and Raymond just hit
it off became great friends. I just was like, Raymond,
what else. I just kept making myself available and helpful
and he kept bringing me along. And then I just
kept meeting people and that developed. I met Brandon, I

(26:48):
met Molly, all these people, and I was doing you know,
that's where like the reality shows, the commercials, that kind
of stuff started. And then Raymond was like, hey, we
got a season, come be the p A. It was like, yes,
this is my moment. Like so that was October two
and that we have a better memory for that than me.
I'm like, I don't even know when that happened. I

(27:09):
can remember the timeline mostly because that was like when
it really started happening for me, and it really like
snowballed from there and it was such a wonderful experience
that treasure is fun. It was so much fun, and
I met so many people that I still work with
all the time. Nassy was our art department coordinator. Great.
I saw her the other day watch RuPauls drag Race

(27:31):
tell her. I said, hi, Will and just ever like
Craig worked on it, Karen, like all these friends, maxed camera.
There was just times of people, you know, and we
had so much fun. And that was like my first
consistent paid job. I wouldn't know, and you were just
like killing it. It was so great and it just
kept sort of from there. I just kept showing up

(27:53):
with Raymond, meeting people, and then I think that's kind
of more the time that I started being around Molly
more Right, and then the next in two thousand and thirteen,
she got me my first union job walking down right,
which is a big deal. Yeah, so that was like
my first, but at that point I had already been
doing p a work set, dressing on non union stuff,

(28:15):
a lot of commercials with Brandon and like that kind
of thing for a while. So I wasn't like the
freshest and the greenest, which hinds people nowadays they are,
but it was great Molly Guardian, angel of my film career,
she is, and then she gave me my first decorating
job on Stand Against Evil, So it really was a

(28:35):
full circle with her getting me, and it all just
kind of fell into place from there, set dressing and
then set dressing turned into buying, buying into occasional decorating.
What do you aspire to do from here? Decorate? Yeah,
that's that's the goal, that's the ultimate dream. Um. But
you know, I want to learn as much as humanly possible.

(28:57):
I've worked for a lot of different people and a
lot of different styles of decorators, and I feel like
every show, every show is always like the worst show,
you know, like every many finishes that they're like, this
is the craziest job I've ever had. This is so
awful until the next one, till the next one. But
I truly have had something that we're really just insane.

(29:20):
But it's like it kind of bonds you with the people.
It's like war stories. Yeah, Like I for a long time,
I've had this UM group text. Do you know Sam Carter.
Did you guys ever meet He's another one of those
puppet people. Okay, yeah, you would love Sam. He's great
and he I met him through Raymond and puppetry. But
then we went on to set dress together and we

(29:41):
all did this movie. Well, it was called Mina now
it's called American Maid. I don't know if you ever
saw it. Tom Cruise. It's about Barry Seals. I haven't
heard of this. It's not very good. Tom Cruise made
a movie that flew under the radar. It took like
three years to release because of reshoots, but it was
a really so probably they were Yeah, Massie and Sam's

(30:02):
mother friends were all set dressing on this movie. And
it was my first buying job, my first official buying
on a movie job, and it was totally bonkers. You know,
it's just really hard. My wife worked on a Tom
Cruise movie and it Yeah, I mean this was years
and years and years ago, but it has more energy than, like,
I know, humans should have, but I don't know what.
He can also throw a project into chaos with just

(30:25):
an utterance of a sentence. Yeah, and I think he
was a producer too, so he had heavily involved. But
I felt like we were all bonded from experience together
and we still keep up. We have a group text
still talk on and it's like people and we like
none of us have worked together really since then in

(30:45):
different capacities maybe, but it's just like a funny like
that's our war story. And I'm sure that a lot
of other people who worked at that movie in different
departments probably the same way. Yeah, the camaraderie, like I've
talked about it before, but I don't know if listeners
just quite get like it is a it is a deep,
deep camaraderie that happens. It is summer camp. And like

(31:07):
when we did stuff you should know, especially it was
so much fun because, uh, Chad, you know who's been
on the show, Um didn't. I mean, we didn't have
any money, and so it was a lot of people
doing a step up job for the first time, like
a job higher than their normal position because we couldn't
afford to pay, you know. But a lot of times

(31:29):
but everyone stepped up and did such a good job,
you know, and it was exciting. Yeah, because it really is.
It's gonna sound so cliche to say this, but it's
like it's not always about the money. Right in this business,
there's I mean, yes, it's cool to get paid, and
like you we all do well for ourselves and like
union jobs, but there's a lot of jobs and like
you know, like there's tears of union shows. And I've

(31:51):
definitely done shows and taken pay cuts to do something
that I felt was really awesome and yeah, something like
stand probably yeah, yeah, totally, but well yes and no,
because Stan was also like a huge opportunity for me.
Molly being like it all kind of happened really fast too.
It was like her other decorator had fallen through and
it was a whole thing and she's like, all right,

(32:12):
you want to come in, you come in, what are
you doing? Come in tomorrow? Great? And Janet, I mean
Janet was my first guest on the show. For the
reason she's really delightful. Everybody on that show is it's
one of those magic sets, like the stuff you should
know that where like everybody gets along and everybody keeps

(32:35):
coming back to it because they love it. Drama, low drama.
Great people just like Dana will roll with a lot
of things. You know, everybody is very much aware of
the time and money constraints and things where it's like, alright,
like Molly talked about the when on her episode she
talked about the whole blanket for the most fun set

(32:56):
to dress of my career. It's so awesome and doing those, Yeah,
you like come back to eggs, You're like, this is fun.
That's the only way to run a star, you know.
And that's nice because I've totally done movies where I
really like the people or I really like who I'm
working for, but the content is just buddy comedy after
buddy comedy after or like, and there isn't that same, Yeah,

(33:22):
there isn't that same camaraderie. When you spend sixty two
eighty hours week with people, it's like you see them
more than your family, for see them more than you sleep.
You know. It's like and then in the same way,
like when you're set dressing, you spend a lot of
time together in close quarters. You're like in the back
of a truck for hours, and you really get to
know people in this weird, interesting intimate way. It's like

(33:45):
all their idio secrecies and it's such a weird business.
It is like that, but I don't know, it just
like shoves you together unique it's very high stress, and
I think that people don't really bond when it happens. Yeah,
I appreciate just like how much because time is money
and money is every you know, so there's always just

(34:06):
different people trying to save money by doing this and
cutting that corner and was trying and it all happened
so fast, and then it's still over and you're like, wow,
I wedding because of that, just like something, you know,
you do have to make those decisions. Yeah. I feel
very lucky that my partners in the industry, we very

(34:28):
much understand that, and also that at this point all
of my friends are kind of used to it, and
you're just like, yeah, you know, if I don't see
you for it's cool, like see you when it's over,
call me when it's over. Yeah. Yeah. My best friend
is on Well you may know Brett Chapman. He does props.
I don't know. I don't know as many prop people
as I used to. He works, Uh, he's been working

(34:50):
on the Marble stuff and then was on Ozark and
just a lot of night shoots and you know how
that goes when yeah, just like sorry, guy, I can't
see anyone for two and a half months. I think
I deterred me to from being on set a little bit.
It was just like in Faturday's and all the night slits.
I hated overnight shoots. In fact, I walked as a

(35:12):
p A. I walked off of a night shoot one
time on a Catillac commercial in downtown l A. At
like three thirty in the morning. I had a producer
I'm done yelling at me and belittling me, and I
was like, I handed her milwalkie, I said good night,
I'm going home and I'm going to sleep, and I
walked off. And I've never made a better decision in
my life. I love that. I've definitely wished and I'm

(35:35):
not a quitter. But it's different. There's a lot more
at stake if you have a real job and you
weren't just like a p A on this because this
wasn't my usual crew, Like I would have been there
for them, you know, because that's shitty. Yeah, you know,
because you are in that together. But this is one
of those jobs where like I knew nobody and there
was no camaraderie, no one was looking out for each other.
I was like, what am I doing here? Yeah, I'm

(35:57):
going home. And I'm going to bed. Yeah, I'm not
proud of it, but I totally no, I've had moments
the best thing I ever did. I feel like I've
put up with a lot, you know, like I've definitely
been through shows and jobs and bosses and people that
I should not have. But really early on, you know,
there wasn't I felt a lot like out of place,

(36:19):
a lot, you know, a young woman trying to like
be in a more male dominated field and mail especially
set dressing. It's like back that in like two thousand
and twelve, it was like really mostly guys like Molly
really opened my world. But then after Molly and I
worked together, I didn't work with another woman in set
deck for like a year. Like it was so I

(36:39):
always kind of felt like, Okay, you know, keep your
head down, be useful, like, don't cause stir, don't cause trouble.
And I look back on sometimes where I'm like, I
should have caused a stir, I should have said something.
Had a weird thing with on an indie movie with
a producer who was very overly attentive to me and

(37:01):
like had like cornered me one day. Just every day
was like let me take you out, let me take
you out. But I'm like, this is was one of
my first jobs, and I just wanted the experience and
I wanted the resume. You know it's to do, and
I just let it happen. Let it happen, Let it happen.
And then it was like this has gone too far,
Like this is weird. He was like twice my age,

(37:22):
you know, like I'll buy you a dress, I'll do this.
I'll like, you know, let me take that fancy yeah,
just like yeah, like what's a young woman like you doing.
I've had that. I've had that set to me so
many times, like what's a young woman like you doing?
You know, like teamsters, the drivers by construction guy. I

(37:43):
had a construction worker ask me one time like how
old are you? Oh you should meet my son. Then
you could get married and not have to do this.
And I was just like okay, um or you know,
this is my dream and this is what I want
to be doing, and maybe I don't want to be
married and care of a family, and you know why,

(38:03):
I just felt snap changed a lot, and it happened
a lot with those people just from maybe just from
different backgrounds. Well, it's a top down thing though, like
it's still so male dominated above the line and that
it just dribbles down. So like, I think the best
way to change that is for people like you and
Molly and get more female directors and producers and it

(38:26):
sets a different tone. Well in Georgia too, specifically, I
feel like with below the line workers just like old
kind of good old boys that are the Yeah that right,
It's like they are so not used to seeing women
my age like in these kind of careers and trying
to do that, and it was so confusing. Why aren't

(38:49):
you in the makeup round? Oh my gosh all the time,
And there's so many I look back on it now
and I'm a lot more confident now, I feel like
within my career and I wouldn't stand for it now
and like I would have some good retorts, but at
the time, I was just like, be quiet, get through
your day, don't cause waves. Because I've totally had friends
that are like, well, you know, I remember this one

(39:12):
time where I went to you know, report sexual harassment.
Nothing happened and I was threatened or whatever, So well
the thousand times that happened. Yeah, you hear those stories
when you're back then before the whole like me too,
explosions stuff, and it does it intimidates you. Especially I'm
twenty four years old and I just want to make

(39:32):
this job happen for myself. And I'm like, oh if I,
you know, getting a fight with I just want to
work and do a good job like a normal human. Yeah.
But instead I'm having people comment what I'm wearing or
what I look like, or how strong I am or something.
I remember having like a painter stuff. I was like

(39:53):
carrying a box of books or something upstairs and this
painters stuff. He's like, you know, you have really sexy arms,
move those boxes like that, and it's like he's got
like meth mouth and he's just five kids, you know.
I'm like, yeah, no, thank you, you know, just a
lot of like yeah, goog like yourself. Have you seen
things get a little better over the past couple of years,

(40:15):
I'm also yes, But it's hard to say because I'm
I work in a very different capacity now, So now
that I'm not set dressing, I'm not around them, and
people treat me a little bit differently. I would say,
maybe a little bit more respect because I'm in the
office side of things. It's a buyer. I'm like separated
from that, and when I am around it, it's very brief.
It's kind of I'm in and out. I just like

(40:37):
walking through the set versus working on the set and people.
So I don't know. Maybe I'll ask some of my
set dresser friends, how has it gotten better? Because I
definitely don't experience it in the same way that I did.
Then I would think at the very least, fear might
get some dumb ships to snap to order. I think so,

(40:58):
I think, you know, if you're a creep maybe at
least you're afraid to be a creepy. I would hope so,
because it was very prevalent and it was felt in
a lot of different ways. And that was another experience
I had as being a proper person that I was like,
I don't really want to be on set, you know,
like after that whole thing with that producer, like really
didn't sit well. And I was like, you know, I

(41:20):
think I want to go exist in my own bubble
of movie making, away from your own way. Yeah, I like,
I like where I ended up. I'm excited about future
things and really enjoying the job I'm doing now and
it's I feel like it's important to do different things
a lot like I think you get stuck in a

(41:42):
rut a lot of times, just like any job, because
a lot of people are like, oh, that must be
so exciting. Everything is different every day, and it's like, yeah,
until you've done three Buddy comedies in a row and
you're like, if I have to do another Penthouse, I'm
gonna like gauge my eyeballs out, like I can't. You know.
I think it's important into take breaks and do things

(42:03):
that are passion projects or you know, just different content
and you're like, oh, I'm looking for something new and
not having to just go to the same stores and
can be restorative. Yeah. It's like I got to a
point on this one show where I was going to
Target so much that the guy knew me. I was like,
what movie lady like, because I mean, who else goes

(42:24):
to Target at seven thirty in the morning besides like
other tables. Yeah, and I would run into like other
buyers too. We're all like, good morning, drinking Starbucks. Nothing's
open perfect, and it's yeah, like, well nothing's will you
know when you're going to work at six o'clock in
the work, walking in as they're unlocking the doors, you

(42:46):
can get that lamp shade. Every so funny, Yeah, the
non important important things. It's like, the world is going
to end if you don't get this, If you don't
drive like a maniac through Atlanta traffic to get to
this one place, drop this off. It's set. Everybody's yelling
at you because you're trying to drive your van up

(43:07):
to set. Throw a lampshade out, all the things. Think
about that when you watch a movie, like what so
much into it? Yeah. I think that's why I'm really
kind of forgiving of bad movies too, because I feel
like it's so hard to make movies. It is there,

(43:28):
everything is stacked against you. But there are a million
things that can and do go wrong. Oh yeah, so
when it goes right, it seems like a bit of
a meatcle it's a miracle, especially when you don't have money,
or you know your crew sucks, or like something happens
where I feel like I can be sort of forgiving
because I've had those moments where I've watched something back
and I'm like, that's not how I intended that to look.

(43:48):
At the second that I left the DP moved that
thing there, and then you know this person forgot to
change out the magnets on the fridge from the time period,
you know, just like dumb stuff where you're like, man,
I hate that that happened. So then I think about
like I'll see something I'm like, God, that looks terrible,
and I'm like, well, maybe something happen. Maybe I shouldn't

(44:10):
be there's a story there. I feel like I can
find something redeeming and almost anything, well, that's good. That's
a good way to be. I think, Well, I think
that you can watch movies from a lot of different lenses.
You can watch a movie where you're like, oh, it's beautiful.
It looks so good, but it's like horrifically boring or
terribly acted or way over lit, you know something, but

(44:34):
like the design is beautiful or the design is terrible,
but the performances are amazing, right, And you can really
I feel like I can separate myself really easily in
that way. And when it all comes together though, that's
when like it's truly frets. Yeah, movie magic, but there
can be Yeah, there can be a lot of different
things wrong. It's like why did you cast this per

(44:57):
what decision. Okay, all right, should we get into Jurassic Park.
So I watched this last night again for the very
first time. Now I watched the last time again, And

(45:19):
here's the deal. I was twenty two years old when
this came out, so I'm I'm probably like close to
your brother's age. I was six. I think it was
my first movie. I saw him in theater. Well I
know the answer to that then for later. But this movie, like,
I was in college in Athens and went and saw
it on I don't know about opening weekend, but very

(45:41):
soon after it came out, and it was pretty magical
for me as a twenty two year old. But I
can't imagine being six to twelve and like what this
movie must have like, this experience must have been like
it was well for me, I don't know. I was
kind of like a nerd kid in the sense of

(46:02):
like I loved science. It was very drawn to science.
And I remember I saw this and I was instantly
obsessed with dinosaurs. I had to have every book, every figuring,
you know, was so into it. I was gonna be
a paleontologist. I was so down. And then I saw
like Free Willy. I was like I'm gonna be a
marine briologist, and then I saw you know, Indiana Jones
was like, I'm gonna be an archaeologist. Like I had

(46:24):
so many different stages of like what inspired me as
a child, and it was always science related. Loved science,
and I loved it was just yeah visually, so crazy
and so amazing. And I had a wonderfully picturesque childhood,
truly suburban, happy, best parents, ever amazing. So I really

(46:46):
think I enjoyed getting into escapism in movies of like
letting my imagination go crazy, what are other worlds? Like
what if this could happen? And I do feel like
watching it now, I feel like the science almost as
kind of believable to me still, like I wrote right here,

(47:07):
like the smartest thing Spielberg did this could happen? Yeah,
was that was make it believable that that cartoon that
Dino DNA, Like it was such a brilliant way to
to just get all the like all the science almost
out of the way so you buy into it. Well,
took it away from being a monster movie. Yeah, you

(47:30):
could believe movie into like a oh my god, could
this are people crazy? Like I watched it last night
I was like, well, that kind of checks out in
a weird Yeah, I don't know who. I definitely not
as into science as I used to be. Well, but

(47:51):
filmmaking wise, it was just a brilliant choice to have
that and because it worked in the story, it worked immediately.
You buy in as a as an audience member, you
you check out or rather maybe check in to believing
like all right, they are dinosaurs. Yeah, And it's a
shared experience with the people on screen, like when they

(48:12):
you know, the big money shot, like Allen and Ellie
turns her head and her mouth just drops. But like
as an audience member, because that was the first time
we were seeing c g I on that level, Like
everyone the audience had the same feeling that they had
all at the same time because we had never seen
that on a movie screen and it was just I remember,
it was fucking overwhelming. It was really revolutionary, like reading

(48:35):
about it now too, just like it was really the
first movie that did that combined animatronics and c g
I in that way to make a realistic Because I
watched like some behind the scenes we have I got
like a founded a thrift store, a Jurassic Park like
New Edition and had all these features and extras, and

(48:56):
they talked about it because they had built stop motion characters. Yeah,
that's what they were going to do. And then somebody
was like, you know what, let me let me try this,
let me try this, this new fangled thing, you know,
when they did it, and it was so real and
it just blew people's minds and they were like, oh
my gosh, yeah, this this is what we're doing, Like,
this is how we have to do it. And it's

(49:17):
so cool to watch that come alive and it holds up. Yeah,
it does looks good. It's like, I totally agree, compared
to a lot of it looks better than some modern
cg Yeah, and a lot of places like that. Whole
I feel like the late nineties early two thousand's was
not good for movie making. It. Yeah, and it's like
we can do anything. It's like now you really can't know.

(49:38):
I think what truly grounds it is that combination of
the animatronics, because then you're truly when you see the
t Rex chasing them cheap, you're seeing that first scene, right,
it's a real thing, and that's what makes it even
more like just visually feast your eyes on it, it's
so crazy because you're like, wow, that's a dinosaur, right,

(50:01):
this is real. And then you go to Universal Studios
and you on the ride, you're like yeah, sorry, you know, like,
oh my god. As a little kid, totally did you go,
Oh my gosh. Yeah, pretty much all of my favorite
movies as a kid. Though we're like Universal Studio. They
also had a ride. Oh yeah, they had a ride.
It was like Jaws back to the Future Alien Like,
I loved it and we lived in Florida for a

(50:24):
little bit when I was a kid, would go and
it was like, yeah, mind um the I mean, it's
funny you mentioned Jaws because Steelbirg has flat outside. Like
I wanted to make Jaws on land basically, and uh,
I forgot how terrifying that opening bit is, which was
basically Jaws on steroids. That opening scene from Jaws. It

(50:48):
was so scary when I was like five, We'll see.
That's the thing is my daughter is dinosaur obsessed. She's
three and a half and like literally runs around the
house talking about out you know, try Sarah Tops and
like she knows all the names and this one eats
vegetables and it's great. But I was like last night,

(51:08):
I was like, when is Jurassic Park? Okay? And I
forget how terrifying this movie is. And I don't know now,
I mean not yet, I was totally, but I was
also I think I just I also really loved scary
stuff when I was a kid, because again, dress childhood
the level of a little bit of danger, a bit
of excitement. Yeah, and I remember watching Jaws very very young,

(51:30):
being same here, so terrified of the ocean, like nope,
not having it, but then just you know, watching it
over and over and over again and being obsessed with it.
But still it happened, you know, like the giant shark
is gonna come out of the dude. I was scared
of swimming pools for a little while. It's like none
of it made any sense. I was like afraid of water.
And I don't even think I saw Jaws when I

(51:52):
was young. It's one of my favorite movies now, but
I wasn't allowed to see that. It was just the
the myth of around Jaws that it was still scary.
My parents like they'll probably listen to this now, be
like we really let her do that, But yeah, I
was couldn't be stopped another thing that hit me last
night too was um, it's just how good the acting

(52:13):
is and like Laura Dern for three, like this is
a pretty forward thinking movie, like it was a female
scientist who didn't take ship for herself. Yeah, I was
watching last night. I was like, man, this was really
and you hate to say, like in ninety three it
was ahead of its time because it wasn't like the Ye,
but it was a ninety three there weren't a lot

(52:33):
of female characters like this. There weren't. And it's not
even just her. It's like all the little girl as
a hacker, like she saves a day and I that
actually she wasn't supposed to say that. I know in
the book it's the brother hacker kid. Yeah, all of
the all the dinosaurs are women. Oh that's right. Yeah.
I think it's kind of a cool, fun and I

(52:54):
love how everybody kind of gets a chance at saving
the day. Right, there's not one euro right yeah, from
you know like Jeff Goldbloom gets out and runs with
the flares and distract which idea. Yeah, I was supposed
to run away and be scared, but wouldn't be great
if I would get likely. But it's great because everybody,

(53:15):
and then you have Sam Neil, who's kind of this
reluctant hero comes around to it, and then you know,
the little girl saves the day and like the boy
has this like everybody has their moment. Yeah, Ellie, she's like,
we can discuss sexism and survival tactics when I get back,
because that old man is like, oh I should go yeah, yeah,
yeah please. Yeah. She's such a bass And I love

(53:38):
Laura Dern always have. Yeah, man, don't get me started.
Do you ever see Enlightened? Her TV show? No, I
have not. You should watch that. It was only around
for a couple of years, but it was the show
that Mike White did um and it's so good. Yeah,
it's really really good. I was inspired by her. Yeah,
she's a doctor. She had her out and it was like,

(53:59):
you know her and Samuel in the movie there together, right,
But there's no love story. They don't play that up.
They don't know. The only time they talk about it
is like when Jeff Goldblum's tried to hit on her,
which is like for one moment where she's like, I
don't get it. Yeah, well he's so creeping to like
touching her hair. I was like, what are you doing?
But I mean they it served a purpose. It had

(54:21):
to that was sort of his character, and they had
to have that whole conversation about the chaos, you know,
they had to build that in somehow and explain it
in a way that viewer could understand by her kind
of He's great, though, I mean, what a weird uh,
Like I always just sort of accepted that role face value,
but last night I was like, what a weird choice

(54:43):
to play this? And he's the sex symbol. Yeah, he
plays it like he's a rock star. He's got a
leather jacket and he's always striking these poses and oh
it's iconic. Yeah, you know, just one big pile of ship.
He has a shirt open, and it's just like, such
a your choice. I love it. I wonder Spielberg, They're like,

(55:06):
just gave him room to do that, or if he
was like it's sort of weird that this chaos mathetician
thinks he's a rock star, or if he just went
with it. But even the it's a lot. It's like
they reference it in the beginning. It's like Hammond, He's like,
why I brought scientists and you bring a rock star?
You know, and they have that whole like dichotomy and
the the helicopter Hammond and the scientist versus the blood

(55:30):
sucking lawyer and he's an all black and Hammond's all white. Yeah,
god advocate thing. Yeah, they really I feel like they
really set it up with that the way they film
it to this side versus this side, right, and they
start those conversations there, and it's foreshadowing for later. There's
the whole thing with the seat belt. What was that

(55:51):
all about? That's the female and well, now I realized
that the finds I think life finds a way. We're that.
I mean, I've seen that a hundred times and I
was like, why they do that? What was the whole
point of that? That's my theory of it. It's two
female ends, which is the foreshadowing of female you know,

(56:11):
and then he makes you know, he ties it together
and consider that. There's all these little moments, and I
love that about I think that's the thing that like
Spielberg always does his movies. It's like easter eggs and
hiding these little moments, you know, And like there's the part.
I didn't know this until recently when I was like

(56:32):
reading about it is. Nedri is actually watching Jaws on
one of his computers. In the very beginning. It's so small,
it's like such a flip that you that you almost
don't catch it, but it's on. He's got his three
computers set up and on one of the computers Jaws
is playing in a corner and he does that. He
like plants all these little funny references. He has the

(56:54):
picture of the Father the atomic bomb. Okay, I was
going to ask. I knew that. I thought that's who
that was. Yeah, they just like plants, all these little
but they hang on that picture, so you know, it's
like accident. Yeah, And I think there's who knows. There's
probably a lot of different ways to look at that.
Maybe it's the chaos theory, or maybe it's something about
baby boomers God playing God, yeah, which Hammond was doing exactly.

(57:18):
And that whole sort of should you or shouldn't you? Yeah,
that scene, um where Malcolm sort of dresses him down
is pretty awesome and like really hardcore, ye, like for
a kid's movie quote unquote, Like at the end he
flat outs as he says, what you call was it progress?
I called the rape of the natural world? Or whatever.

(57:41):
That's pretty heavy. Yeah, it's super heavy because I think
that's a very interesting sort of idea of nature, Like
do we have the right should we mess with nature
in that way? I mean we've seen all the horrible
effects now are having by messing with nature, and like
is that right or not? Like nature got rid of

(58:03):
dinosaurs for a reason, so who are we to think that, Yeah,
we can just control them. And well, like you said,
he said they had their shot. You know this isn't
it wasn't deforestation like the no one, no humans were around. Yeah,
they had their chance. They had their chance and the
like for science, and it's it's pretty great. There's a lot.

(58:24):
There's so many fun little moments. I forgot when the
whole reason, Like if you would have asked me before yesterday,
like why did Ellie and Alan go, I would have said, well,
the guy funded their dig and uh, I just wanted
to show off his thing. No, it's the guy he

(58:44):
needed Well, yeah, he needed approval to move forward, and
I kind of forgot that and that really gives it
like something at stake. And then of course at the end,
dumb me, I forgot the big line, like I've decided
not to endorse your park or whatever, which is such
a kind of a great corny moment. I do think
that's like the one kind of fun b movie moment

(59:06):
of the movie is that in that beginning that's like
where it opens, you know, and you don't see the dinosaur.
You just have this whole shoot us and it sets
it up. You're like, what's going to happen? And then
it goes to the scene with Nedri where they're like
following the Dodge sm the character's name is Dodgson coming
with the money. It's like and it's you know, you're

(59:27):
like following through the market and it's kind of setting
up this like shady business deal. You know, we've got
so silly. But I think that is that kind of
the funny like monster movie moment. You're like seeing the setup.
You're like, Okay, something crazy just happened. Something shady is
going to happen, now, what's you know? Then you and

(59:51):
then it's like the Amber mine and then they're in
the the scene where they're at the dig and the
bad Lands, which doesn't I don't know if it actually
isn't the bad Lands. It doesn't really look like it
kind of just looks like the desert. Where did I
read that they shot that? I read that last night.
I can't remember. I want to say, Montana is it?
Maybe it may have been it definitely, it just looks

(01:00:12):
like the desert. But yeah, I love that, And I
love when they go in the trailer and the trailer
has such depth. It's like so layered, and so that's
like a set deck moment where I'm like, and there's
a thing on the fridge. There's like a have all
these newspaper articles cut out. It's like space aliens stole
my face, you know, like all this. I love stuff

(01:00:32):
like that, like little things that you know, someone like
me was just like this is gonna be funny. Nobody's
ever going to notice that, those little inside jokes like
the only art department, like you sneak your little things out. Yeah,
it's always like on a fridge. Yeah, I really get
into still like layering. That's an important part of what
we do. And you know, I think it's you can

(01:00:54):
make a movie look great when you're doing science fiction fantasy.
You can really make these like octacular looking movies. But
I think the real success is when you do those
like real life movies, you have those real life moments
where it's just layered and real and it doesn't look
like a real estate house. Yeah. Yeah, because that happens
a lot, and it's you can tell people put that

(01:01:17):
extra mile into the layer, like this is a model home. Yeah,
we call it the life layer. You know. It's just
I've that's I've referred to it and a lot of
people do a lot of decorators to get the life layer, right. Yeah,
it's so true. It's so important, and I think that
you don't get a lot of chances for that. And
it may be like Jurassic Park and because they're you know,

(01:01:40):
they're in the forest and there the visitors Center. Yeah,
it's the only time you really see it as there
Ned's desk, which is just like a it's pretty great.
Samuel Jackson smoking the entire time, which is also very great,
so good. I tell people to hold onto their butts
like daily like that. I make a lot of I

(01:02:04):
love that reference and I make it a lot and
sometimes it lands, sometimes it doesn't. I also use Clever
Girl a lot. Yeah, that's I mean. There are genuine,
like legit memes that have come out of this, like
quite a few. Oh, there's so many good lines. And
sometimes yeah, again, sometimes people get it, sometimes they don't.
I did it one time. I was like doing something

(01:02:24):
at work, like a hobby lobby or something, and I
was we're trying to like find if they had multiples
of the inventory, and the guy was like, oh, I
can cross reference it on the website with this other thing.
I was like, clever girl, and he looked at me
like I was out of my mind. I'm a sorry

(01:02:46):
because you've never seen Durass come out from under the
rock that you well, you know, Christian organization. Maybe he
hadn't never seen Jurassic Park, but just you know, I
feel like movie people often like David's really good at
movie quotes, and I miss a lot of them. But yeah,
sometimes you just throw things out and people are like
what did you. Oh yeah, Emily and I reference movies

(01:03:06):
blank stare like, oh, I guess you never saw that one?
Good with it? Um, I mean Spielberg's sense of adventure
and John Williams has a lot to do with that.
It's his scores. But when they when they're first coming
in on the helicopter, it's just like even even now,

(01:03:27):
I know, like the helicopter was cool, and flying just
the shots like flying through the mountains and the jungle
and that one great shot like when they're just going
down in front of that waterfall and it's just like
it really puts you there. Yeah, you know, well, it's
just so iconic. And those soundtracks, like I love it
when you can just score a movie and there's no

(01:03:48):
real like yeah yeah yeah, and those ones where it
just sticks with you your whole life. Jaws, same way,
like those you hear these like a few notes in
let me know what it is, And I think that's
kind of amazing and iconic of like wow, Yeah. I
wasn't at a place when I was in college where
I thought like I grew up with Spielberg one point

(01:04:10):
oh and like ET when I was the age that
you were, or maybe a little bit older, but ET
and you know Jaws and Close Encounters and the Raiders movies.
And I kind of was surprised by this in college
because like he went on to make The Color Purple
and Empire of the Sun, and I kind of wondered, like,
is Spielberg have we lost him for these big movie

(01:04:34):
movie adventure movies, And then he comes out with this
and I didn't. I guess I didn't realize at the
time it was going to be so iconic. Yeah, it's
like one of the highest grossing film franchises of all time.
And I did. I rewatched Lost World as well. I
did not make it to the World. Yeah. Lost World
is still Spielberg, I think. Yeah, and when Okay, that

(01:04:54):
was the one that's like Jeff Goldbloom's the Star which
is just fun. No, Yeah, he's in that. Okay, he's
in that. Yeah, that's the Vince Van and Julianne Moore
where like they go back to the Sister Island and
they're like trying to sabotage because like the engine is
trying to bring the dinosaurs to San Diego, and then
they have the whole Godzilla moment, you know, the SS venture,

(01:05:19):
which is a Godzilla reference like comes into the you know,
and the dinosaurs escape. Did you like them? Um? I
liked Lost World in a different way, like it's definitely
it's no Jurassic Park to me, right, of course, but
I enjoyed it. I love Jeff Goldbloom. I would watch
Jeff gold Bloom read The phone Book. Oh my god,

(01:05:41):
it's amazing. Uh, Sketch Fest last year, which is the
thing that Janet invites us to do every year, and
they put everyone up in the same hotel. He was
doing some like Jeff Goldman tribute thing, yeah exactly. And
I walked out of the hotel Emily and I and
there was a group of my friends, like various podcasters
and comedians that we're all just kind of standing around.

(01:06:03):
Goldblum comes out and he knows some of them, so
all of a sudden, I'm in sort of a shared
group with Jeff Goldblum and just trying to be cool.
I was like, yeah, you know, I belong here. Whatever,
it's cool, It's totally cool. I'm totally chill, right. But
this one young woman who was a comedian came up
whom I didn't know, and she was like, I hate
to be like that, but like you're the best, and

(01:06:24):
can we get a picture? And he gold bloomed her.
He like he'd like literally danced over to her and
took her swung around and took her in his arms
and they were both facing but she was in front
of him, and he had like his head on her shoulder,
and he was just kind of dancing with her and
singing in her ear and everybody was like, Oh, he's

(01:06:44):
just gold blooming the ship out of that lad and
everybody melted. I was like, I wanted Jeff Goldblum to
go bloom me whisper. But it wasn't creepy like you
had to be there. It was like total by all accounts,
that's who he is. He seems like that. He's like, yeah,
and I love that. I feel like he's gotten better
with age. He's just like he's more handsome now than

(01:07:07):
he was in his like twenties. Yeah, and he looked
at the fly. Yeah. He really is just one of
those guys. And it's a trait I wish I had
more of, which is so comfortable in your own skin
that like Jeff, he doesn't have any if shoes with himself,
doesn't Yeah, And I feel like, do whatever now? And
he's just like, I'm Jeff Goldblum. Did you see that

(01:07:29):
big statue a couple of years ago? I just randomly
found this last night when I was researching this. Someone
did a where was it? I feel like it was
in another country, This like thirty ft Jeff Goldblum statue
of him laying on the ground with her shirt open
and it was just like this random piece of art
than everyone would go like take pictures being cradled in
his arms. Life Friends with No, he's fantastic and Lost World.

(01:07:52):
I did enjoy because he's far to watch and he's
has great little comedic moments and yeah, also so great
female roles and that was the one right after Yeah,
and that's so Julianne Moore scientist. She's like in the jungle,
she studies predators. Total badass. And then he's got this
daughter who like sneaks along and she has this moment

(01:08:15):
where she like does this gymnast move and like kicks
a velociraptor outside with her, and I just it's so cheesy,
but I just loved him because I was like, hell, yeah,
year old girl. I'll say. It's like he always gave
the women the chance to save the day in the movie. Yeah.
I like Spielberg. He knows how to work with kids
first of all, and then I think he wants uh

(01:08:37):
and not just female characters, but he wants kids to
get their do. Yeah, it's like capable and like they're
fully realized people and they're not just like two props.
Like I love the little kid in the first one
who's he's just so enthralled at the beginning. No no, no,
not the assholes. Yeah, that kid sucks. That's like I

(01:09:00):
feel like that's just setting more of the stage of
like Dr Grant's child hating. But I love the you know,
he's dressed like him, Like, yeah, he's just so obsessed
with him, thinks he's so cool. And then they have
this whole you know, journey together, you know, brings them.
I love that. Yeah, he's like an actual character and

(01:09:21):
he's got you know, his own interests, and they gave
I love that they gave the girl. The hacking. Thing
is that really she didn't have much She got that
role because she could scream like that, Like I don't
think she really went on to do anything else, but
she you know that scream like blood curdly, you know,

(01:09:42):
but she doesn't have much other you know, character development
to her. She's just kind of this like scared kid.
But then she gets to come into her own and
have this moment where she's you know, trying to save
her brother from the raptors and then she saves everybody
by booting up the sister and like knowing how to
work this computer because everybody else is dead well, and

(01:10:04):
the way they shot that scene too, it's even such
a big movie moment because she swings that chair around
and the camera zooms in like and she's so excited.
It's just such a great moment. I love it, and
it's it's just again, Yeah, everybody gets to have their
moments and there, you know, save the day. Like I
love Ellie running through the forest. I love the moment

(01:10:28):
where she finds the arms. She's like, oh, dr Arnold,
and that's another kind I feel like that's kind of
a B movie, but totally he had his little horror
Saturday morning B movie and in a fun way. And
she yeah, and she still is just like I got
this run and run like go back inside. She does
scared really well too, like cool, Yeah, she's the coolest.

(01:10:51):
David teases me that I have my Jurassic Park outfit.
You're like, we're we're traveling, and he took this picture
of me that you're wearing like highwaisted short it's like
a tied up down a kerchief, which I'm wearing now.
Like it's definitely fashion influenced by her. Her all denim
look like she's just so cool, like the nineties way,

(01:11:13):
just like effortlessly cool, you know, not overly sexualized in
any way, Like she's just wearing practical clothes. Yeah, notwhere
about it was like look at this pretty lady, Yeah
what she is? But it wasn't it was whatever. She
was just a scientist, which I appreciate so many women
in movies props. Yeah, essentially in the hands of anyone else,

(01:11:37):
that might have been the case. You know, it might
have been sucking Denise Richards in there. And then she's
got like a low cut shirt something just like totally
not practical. Like the sequels are really uh there's like
people give them a really hard time because the character
what's her name, the like new the redhead, Like, oh,
Bryce tells how Yeah, she is like running in heels

(01:11:58):
the whole time. But they were like, no, it's like
a character choice because like her character is just like
really prissy whatever. Maybe, but it distracts me. Like I
literally sat watching those movies thinking, how's she running? It's frustrating,
and she's yeah, she's very like gussied up. I understand,
you know the argument of course, like, well, that's her character,

(01:12:21):
she is this person she would be wearing that, but
it's also just like annoying because I'm like, okay, kick
him off. You're running through a gift shop snag a pa,
like to grab something and like get yourself. Yeah. I
have mixed feelings about the new ones. Yeah, I watched
them and I will continue to watch that will too.

(01:12:42):
I think they're okay. The first one was. I think
the first one did a good job of sort of
um stirring the nostalgia soup. Yeah, so many references, so
many Easter eggs, and it was it was fun enough.
The Jimmy Buffett moment, I don't know, kindn't even remember.
There's like where there's like a Margarite of it's like

(01:13:04):
the Dinosaurs of Broken Free again because you know it's
going to keep happening, and he there's like I didn't
even realize it was Jimmy Buffett at first, but there's
like this whole like Margaritaville crashing moment, like, oh, that's hilarious.
And there's actually a shot of Jimmy Buffett running away
holding to Margarita's, which I thought it was a wonderful
little that I didn't notice it at first. I did

(01:13:27):
notice the Jimmy Buffett Margarite of VILK. I think they
referenced in the second one to which is just like
a funny because those are so ubiquitous. Like, so I
thought it kind of put a funny modern spin on
like what it would be like now, because they couldn't
like Jurassic Park wouldn't sell in the same way that
Jurassic Park two whatever would think. You gotta have it merchandise,

(01:13:52):
and you're going to have all these different sponsors. Like
I thought that was in smart way of kind of
bringing it up to date by having it be like
so theme parky, Like it definitely felt like Universal Studios. Yeah,
and it felt and even in this one, like the
whole setup of the park and it all felt very real,
like this is how they would do it. Yeah, if

(01:14:12):
they did make dinosaurs, it would be the bloodsucking lawyers
behind it all. We had charged a day. Maybe we
can have that guy is so great. That whole moment
when he gets eaten is so funny, Martin Ferrero, just like,
what a great role, so great and it all blows
away that he gets just a good, cheesy, fun moment. Yeah,

(01:14:37):
we don't know. Just Jeff Goldblue maake it. You know,
he's like underneath the brush. Yeah, but of all the
people the sacrifice, it's like the you know, the blood
sucking lawyer of course, Spielberg. That's a little veiled shot. Yeah, totally,
just like this guy is terrible. Yeah, so we don't
mind losing him, No, no one. You know. Um and
the kid by the way, you know he's the kid

(01:14:58):
from the Queen movie. Did you say I haven't. He
plays John Deacon, he plays the bass player and the
whole first time I saw that movie Bohemian Rhapsody, I
was like, who is that guy? That's so funny? And
it's the kid. It's what's his name, Joseph Mozilla. Yeah,
Joseph Miscelo. And also shout out to Arianna Richards, who

(01:15:19):
did not do a lot of after this. She I
was reading something about her a while ago where she
says that people still recognize her from that and like
come up to her in the grocery. You know, it's
so funny. Looks like that kid. But the story with
that kid was that he had Spielberg screen tested him
for Hook, like loved him that right before this. I

(01:15:39):
thought he was great, but thought he was too young
for that part, and so then he brought him back
for Jurassic Park. And I think that's also why they
switched the ages of the kids, was so that he
could be the younger because he thought it would have
been in the Yeah he's the older brother, but it
would have been too much to have a younger girl.
I've been like, too scary. Yeah, you know, because you

(01:16:01):
gotta give them. They gotta be old enough that they're
not going to like you shut their pants. Sorry, comes
through with a glass, which I also read it was
a part to happen. Oh really that was supposed to
It wasn't supposed to the or like the plastic wasn't
supposed to bust out originally. But interesting that whole things
went wrong with the dinosaur turn itself saws. I did

(01:16:22):
read that that what's your the producer, what's her name,
Spielberg's longtime producer, Kathleen Kennedy. Yeah, yeah, She's like, we'd
be having lunch and the dinosaur just come on and
everyone was like, oh my god. So I think the
looks of terror are real because that's got to be
pretty scary. Well, that's sequence I looked last night from

(01:16:43):
the moment Um, what's Wayne Night's character Nedri. From the
moment Nedri hits execute and clicks that on his computer,
the next thirty minutes are full on horror movie. Yeah,
like scary, terrifying shit because it's all supposed to happen
within Like he said something, he's like, well like window

(01:17:04):
of a window, so that all of that stuff starts
happening very rapidly. And it's his stuff with the I
mean the way they kill him with the raptors, it's
a dial off what like the like spitting thing. Yeah,
the shield or whatever. It's so funny, it's so good
and that looks so good. I mean, that's got Those

(01:17:25):
are the animatronics, right, I'm not sure. I think I
know the Triceratops. I know the t Rex and then
I'm sure that part of that probably tatop scene just
so good and he's like laying on its breathing. I
remember that from when I was twenty two, just being
like that's what I would do. I would lay on
a dinosaur and field I was just like, how is

(01:17:47):
this thing? Yeah? Real? Like what because it seems real?
And then you go then you go to Universal Studios
and on the ride and you're like, oh my god,
this thing is gigantic. Like then Ellie is so like
it's a real in that scene and so compassionate and
like fully in um not just to dig through dinosaur ship,
but like when they leave, and it's like all I

(01:18:08):
feel like all the decisions they make that drive the
story forward and put them in their various spots all
make sense. It was never like why are you doing that?
Don't go there, Like she wanted to stay with her
because like she's literally with a sick dinosaur because she's
the botanists. She's trying to figure out what it's eating.
Let's make that's right, the African whatever, the berries. Yeah,

(01:18:33):
and there's another part two where it's supposed to be
like in the book, the triceratops like eating rocks like
you eat. They ate rocks to like grind down and
then they would pass them once they were smooth. So
that was like part of it too, because people have
and that was not in them. Yeah, because people have
like you know, criticized that just like you never explained it.

(01:18:53):
You know. It's like really we're gonna we're gonna really
pick apart the science. It's like adventure movie. Yeah, yeah,
which is truly what it is is and why I
think I love it so much because I'd loved adventure
movies like Indiana Jones Take Me Away to Another World.
I loved that, and that's totally what it is. Let's
hop in Our Jeep, which was also I'm realizing now

(01:19:16):
it's like, how much like like why did I want
to jeep so badly when I was a kid? Thosements
where yeah, it's like sticks with you, and that's like
and I still love it and I still watch it frequently,
just like any time, Oh it's it's like Jaws. It's like, oh,
it's on TV, I'm gonna watch part of that. You know,
there's some movies like that where you know and Sam

(01:19:38):
Neil so good. I know that Harrison Ford was close
to being cast but interesting, but I also think at
the time, like those people weren't that famous. Yeah, Sam,
you know, Laura Dern was not super famous. I mean
she's done Blue Velvet some other things, but not one
of Samuel L. Jackson's first kind Yeah, you know, And

(01:20:01):
I think that's good because I think sometimes you're distracted
by like a star vehicle movie. It's just like this
isn't a movie about you know whatever. This is a
movie about Harrison for you know that he would have been.
I mean in some ways, I guess Alan is sort
of the main character, isn't He isn't Yeah, I mean

(01:20:21):
there isn't really a main character. I don't feel like
that because everybody had again, everybody has their moment. There's
like all these different And I also read other things
where it's like criticizing character development and that, and I'm
like I read some of that last night too. I
got so mad at just because it's not about one person.
It's about this like collective experience story. So if you

(01:20:41):
spend so much time developing each character, then you're you
miss out on the chance to develop the story their
mutual experience that they're having. And it was two hours
in ten minutes, what do you want? And I kind
of disagree with it because I do think they have
interesting backstories and they kind of have their reason for
existing and how what they're about, and those then play

(01:21:04):
into different things later and you know, like in the
first uh, I think I clocked out like eighteen minutes,
like you know all you need to know about all
these characters, you know, um, Richard Atton Burrows Hammond is
what his deal is. I mean, there's a true love
in his heart for this project. He's an idealist, Yeah
he is. I don't think it's all about the money. Um.

(01:21:25):
And then just that little bit on the dig that
you see at the beginning, Uh, you know that they're
underfunded and they're broke scientist and that's such a real
moment when he says I'll find your dig for another
three years and they're like okay. Like the way they
handled that, they're like like they didn't they didn't know
they were going to see dinosaurs at that point. Yeah,

(01:21:46):
they were excited because they get their project. Funch is
so great, which I love that they don't reveal that
until they get there. That it's like pretty perfect, you know,
like I was bowlding out of your head. Yeah, and
they're just so fun. Sam Neel is so great. Yeah,
He's awesome and just great in general. Yeah. I love
to say. We were talking about Event Horizon the other day.
I was like, I want to rewatch that weird movie.
I haven't seen that since then. I don't think it's

(01:22:09):
very bizarre in I remember thinking it was pretty good.
I just and I feel like he's done. He's been
in so much stuff at the same time, it's hard
to remember what he's been in. But then he watched
something and you're like, sam Neil, like, we watched some
terrible Well it wasn't terrible. I shouldn't say that it
was some movie. It was like on TV Liam Neeson movie.
It's like, you know, all movies are the same. Yeah.

(01:22:31):
He was like, he's on a train and he's got
to find out. But sam Neil has been it and
I hadn't thought about he has like like some police
guy or something that but he's so I was like, wow,
I haven't thought about sam Neil and forever. He looks great.
He's aged, very well, very handsome, and I was just like, man,

(01:22:53):
he's awesome. It's like I would I would see sam
Neil do more things. I wonder why they haven't brought
back in any of the new movies. It seems like
a no brainer. It's interesting if only for a small bit,
and they only do they even I know they reference
Jeff Goldblum and they have like that moment where it's like,
but I think he's like testifying. I think he's in

(01:23:14):
one of the new ones where he's like, I think so,
but it's so small. It's such a small little piece,
and I would have more because I am a sucker
for nostalgia and I will continue to watch it if
you give me a dress, even if it's bad. A
sequel now with and bring Samon Ellie back, Sam and Ellie,

(01:23:34):
but be way more excited. What was your whole take
on the the kids, the whole bit with like the
only thing that kind of bothers me now is the
whole thing with like he doesn't like children. Yeah, And
she's like, I really it is like it's sort of
that that I love Spielberg, but I feel like there's
always sort of one thing like the book ins in

(01:23:57):
Private Ryan, where I'm like, man, just take those out
and it's such a better movie. Yeah, And so I
don't know. I was a little bothered, but they kind
of I feel like it's served its purpose in the
sense to create him as a reluctant hero instead of
just like I'm going to save these kids and be
this guy. It's yeah, but you do get to see
a small amount of character development in that way where

(01:24:19):
it's like he is kind of this like you know,
Harden and it's it is lame because it's like, oh,
I want to have you know, Ellie's like kind of
playing the maybe I want to have kids, but I
want Yeah. But at the same time I think it
makes it. It also gives some comedy to it too,
with that whole part where they're getting in the car
and you know, if he didn't hate kids and you

(01:24:41):
just was like, this kid is sitting in the car
talking year off, Like where is the funny moment where
he shoots the door on the kid and walks away,
you know, like, all right, here's where I am now.
I think I don't mind all that stuff. I think
it was the very, very very end that bugged me. Oh,
when he's like holding them and they're cuddling on the
But it's more of a moment with me is that

(01:25:01):
I don't like it when movies like when someone goes
through like a trauma, like a horrific trauma like this,
and then they're just all like, oh, we're on the
helicopter eight minutes later, and boy, that was I should
just like it's very it's very tightly wrapped up in
a bow, and I mean that's Spielberg he wanted and

(01:25:23):
I get it. It's Steven Spielberg cannot have people not
leave the theater without a grin on their face from
ear to ear, and that's what he does and that's
why we love him. So I'm not gonna here's the
Flock of Pelicans. I know the words, and it's like
his whole thing is whole theory about the birds, and
it was pretty cool. It's cute. It's like, I mean,
it's a movie. Yeah, he makes movies, and I do

(01:25:46):
love big, big, fun movies. Yeah. I do love a
happy ending. I'm not like they should have killed more
people and just left like shaking and scared. Yeah, as
much as I love like a movie that totally doesn't
wrap it up for you and this heart wrenching, like,
oh my god, it's gonna end like that and now
I want to go die, right, you know, Like that's
that's a great I love. But that's what I love

(01:26:08):
about movies, all the different ways that it can make
you feel different feels. It is. It's like whether you're
crying or you're laughing, or you're excited or scared yeah,
or you're just like wow, this is real life and
it's devastating and beautiful, and so many things were like, wow,
this is this suspension of reality that I never live.

(01:26:30):
It's so many different that's what it evokes in you.
And I think that's like the beauty of movies. It's
just like, oh yeah, we want to feel the fields.
We're just humans. Oh man, you got anything else on this?
I mean, we could talk for four more hours, it is,
so it's just so much fun. And I think that's uh,
you know, I probably could have picked like a cooler movie,

(01:26:52):
you know, like a film major, you know, but I'm
not that really, I'm just not that person. Also, I
feel like I is what this show is all about.
I love. There's totally better films, I think, and there's
different Yeah, there's a lot of different ways to view,
like your favorite movie of just like, well, this is
the most beautiful movie I've ever seen, Like this is
the saddest movie I've ever seen. But Jurassic Part to

(01:27:15):
me is just like the most fun start to finish,
just like that feeling, that childhood sense of wonder and
it truly I just think it holds up so well.
It does, and not many movies do, I agree, But
really the I feel like the mid seventies to the
mid nineties is like my favorite movie era's like there's

(01:27:38):
so many good fun classics total time period, and I
just don't. I feel like it's going to make me
sounding a jerk, but I just don't like movies now,
Like there's just not a lot of new movies that
get me excited. I feel like all action movies are
like comic book movies or recycled stories, and I'm just

(01:28:00):
not really like a Marvel comic book person, Like I
don't really get well that cuts you out of I know,
and it does because there's just not those same kind
of like blockbuster adventures, you know, like there's not there's
definitely good adventure movies. I feel like you could argue that,
like you know, Pan's Labyrinth is kind of an adventure

(01:28:20):
movie and it's totally beautiful and that's a great movie,
but there's just not as many. That's why it was
like ten years ago, that's a new movie. I feel
like that's why something like Baby Driver not in the
same genre at all. But just to see something so original,
like you leave the movie theater going like, man, that
is what I'm talking about, original story, fun, different, great music,

(01:28:44):
and that editing. It was just like, man, I haven't
seen that before. Yeah. David said that they had choreographers
on set. Did he work on that? Yeah? He was
a ringing electric on that. And he said that like everything,
the whole movie was like choreographed to beats, like shut
in the car door, the gunfire, like the way they
did everything. It was like music video stuff. I'm sure

(01:29:07):
they had just like every moment. And then when you
watch it, like knowing that and then watching it, I
was like, Wow, nailed it. That's got to be so hard.
That whole part where he's like walking through the city
the beginning introduces a whole other I mean, it's hard
enough to shoot a movie, and then you're like like,
all right, now we have to it's basically a musical, yeah,

(01:29:28):
and there's like the lyrics are like graffiti on the wall,
and it's really yeah to see something that's new and original.
It's not a recycled story. It's not a reboot, because
that's what it's like, reboots and Marvel movies and like,
give me something, give me something original. I have been here.

(01:29:52):
Car Entry sequence best ever that was so great and
again original. I remember when I saw that because there's
only so many ways to put people in peril with dinosaurs,
and most of that involves the dinosaurs, and that whole
sequence like didn't involve dinosaurs at all, but I remember

(01:30:12):
seeing that with the car just right above them breaking
through the trees, and it was just like stops, like
you like Ukraine when he yeah, so good all the
way to the bottom, and then of course it falls
and they have their safe little bubble. Yeah, but everything.
I also I love how it's like it's a domino

(01:30:33):
effect movie, which I think is sort of of the
whole idea of this, like messing with nature. It's like
one thing goes wrong. Nedri does that one thing, and
then it turns off this other thing, and then there's
also this tropical storm and like it's ship hits the
fan before you even know it. It's like so quickly

(01:30:55):
goes wrong. And that scene with Nedri two when he
goes with the the embryos and the shaving cannon, all
that whole thing happens, Like not only is that a
great scene, but it sets up a sequel so perfectly.
It just shows that, you know, getting covered up in
brown mud and you're like, oh, well, I see what's
gonna happen. It's not gone forever. In some future movie

(01:31:16):
there's all these dinosaur embryos like buried again. Yeah, they
talk about that, and then behind the scenes thing um
that was the art director's idea, barbsol Can, because he
was like, I was just in the drug store and
that one just like jumped out at me and we
thought it would be like fun interesting. You know, the
visual of it, it's like very graphic. It's real thing
because now you know movies, it's like so hard to

(01:31:39):
get things like clearances. It's such an ordeal in my
department specifically to get clearances like brands and art and everything.
It's like if we were filming this and you could
see the back of the microphone says something. A lot
of times like you can't show that. You have to
show it being a specific brand or something. It's so annoying.

(01:32:00):
Hate it because it really just gets in the way
of what's happening because it makes it you can tell
when it's like fake and somebody's taped over it. It
makes it crazy. It's like how many mac laptops have
I seen with a big dark story, But you know,
there's only so many ways to do it and it's
so lame. But I love that that it's like a
real thing and it's not like some fake, badly graphic design,

(01:32:27):
like some fake named hairspray something. Sure Spielberg could get
kind of whatever he wanted. I also think it was
not as you know, it was easier to get away with.
It's like that really didn't become a big problem. One
of the biggest things, like, um, what's some Denzel Washington
movie where he's drinking and driving. He's like drinking like Budweiser,

(01:32:50):
Miller Light or something, and it was a huge ordeal
and it was like a lawsuit and that was portrayed
in the Yeah, because they're like, don't show this, like,
you know, drinking and driving, asshole dude, alcoholic, like drinking
our beer, you know, the Budweiser enjoy responsibly, you know.
And that's like a whole thing. It's like intended, you swear,

(01:33:11):
it's like, can we show this because it's being used
in the way like a serial killer trying to stab
you with the beer bottle, you know, right, So you
often have to make up really dumb fake because I'm
sure every company was like, well, what do you want
to use it for how exactly? Oh yeah, they ask
you for And it's especially hard on like horror movies,

(01:33:33):
R rated movie, right, even with standing against Evil, you know,
like we couldn't even really get into that world who
are so low budget and kind of well at least
there you can, like the fake stuff is sort of
fits in without Yeah, like make Corney like alternate reality.
It's such a fun show to make, really really bonded.
It's not coming back. I know. It's three seasons. Yeah,

(01:33:55):
three wonderful, delightful, fun filled. It was pretty great and
gotten around to season three. Yet were you able to
were they able to resolve the story? I feel like
I can't tell you have to you have to. It's
actually all seasons coming out on Hulu February plug you know,

(01:34:16):
but it's yeah, I feel like we could embrace those things.
That's like tomorrow is it two days? But you google
get to like embrace that on a show like that
where it's like the comedy, you know, but then it
gets really hard in a movie where you're trying to
make it feel real and having to do some like
dumb fake poster or the beer cans and they all
because everybody like a lot of able to use the

(01:34:37):
same places or like rent for my you know, fun brand,
and everybody knows that it's the fake cans that that
are supposed to be, like it's supposed to be a Budweiser,
but it says like about Macier. Yeah, it's like a
different word. And if you're eagle eied, you catch it
in the movie and it's just like it just takes yours.
I hate it. I would just rather like not be

(01:34:59):
brand did or something like or just like turn it
in a way that you're not seeing it, like make
it feel natural, yeah, if you know, or something I
don't know. But again, hard to make movies. Sometimes things happen.
Sometimes it's last second and you've got to like grab
some rando thing from Crafty or like out of your

(01:35:20):
car and make it work because so and so changed
their mind at the last second and now they want
to be drinking this or whatever, and you just roll
with it and you hope that it doesn't look dumb, right,
and then you get to work again and sometimes it doesn't. Um. Well,
I guess we should talk about the very end. We
can't not talk about the great scene in the lobby oh,

(01:35:43):
and they're like hanging on this. Yeah, Like it was
so like jumping back a little bit. It was so
brilliant to bring the danger inside because previously everything had
been out in the jungle and everything. And then when
they finally get those kids back, you think, oh, thank god,
like they're in the conference or whatever, the lobby and

(01:36:05):
everything's fine, and to bring those oh my god, it
was so brilliant to do that, such a great decision
because then it's like, there is nowhere on this island
that's safe. The only safe place is getting out if
you're on a helicopter, and that whole the whole kitchen
sequence is so and there get to take care of
themselves and other great part. They're like smart and they

(01:36:27):
try to, you know, and then they use the She
tries to get in the thing and close it. She can't.
But then they're distracted by the reflection. It's really it
again gives them their moment, and then I love the
whole like, well, unless they figured out how to open doors,
and then it goes to it. I know, it's such
a little movie thing, but it's like I love it,
which I love it too, because they're trying to you know,
the velociraptor is supposed to be this like smarter super inteller,

(01:36:52):
which they set up and use later in the sequels,
and I love that. It's like, yeah, they use their
little clothing and they figure out out. You know, they're
smart and they like listen like the the game Hunter Shooter,
you know that guy Mold. Yeah, he is like always
kind of references that the velociraptor. Did they get out? Yeah,

(01:37:13):
they're watching us. They're hunting up because we're being hunted. Yeah,
let go and in. And it's like he really understands that,
and he really understands that they're this evolved predatory that
it's not because I feel like I kind of portray
the t Rex is like this just yea monster. Yeah,
like big dumb monster. Oh if we're still they won't

(01:37:34):
see it. But the velociraptor is too good for that.
Like they have the pack and they talk well clever
girl is a sign of a show of respect, you know.
The last thing that goes through his mind, it's like
you got me, Yeah, just like you set me up

(01:37:55):
for that. I hated to see him go. That was
one of the deaths. I was like, he was such
a good character he was. It was really enjoyable because
I feel like he kind of has this whole like
Safari dude. His shorts were a little tight short, kind
of like his hat with the like one side up
classic he was Steve Irwin. Yeah r I p uh yeah.

(01:38:19):
And then of course the t Rex saving the day.
I think everyone knows by this point that Spielberg's idea.
Everybody gets their moment. It didn't initially in that way,
and movie making wise, it was just a really I
did not how is it supposed to end? Uh? It
was they the end was supposed to be had to
do with the dinosaur bones that they were swinging on
that like the t rex is like one of the

(01:38:42):
t rex bones kills like in the fall like stabs
through one of the velociraptors, and then a part of
the t rex jaw, so like the t rex still
quote unquote killed them, but by way of its bones
falling on them. And Spielberg was like, it's not that's
not good enough, that's stupid, and he's like, why don't
we just have him come back? I think, then just

(01:39:03):
do it, and they're like, okay, one final like moment
where the are coming down. Nobody saves the day. Everybody
saves the day. Everybody all get their moment, and then
truly at the end of the day, the dinosaurs, because
that's what it's about. It's about these like predator creatures
that we can't control them. They want to and they

(01:39:25):
love They set that up to at the beginning, they
put the goat out right, you don't want to be
it doesn't want to be fed. And then at the end, yeah,
it comes and it's like has essentially to these velociraptors,
and I love that. I love that, like bringing it
all back because you kind of are feeling at that
point like oh shit, like kind of hopeless. What are

(01:39:47):
they doing. They're they're like swinging around on these things
and they're falling out of the ceiling there they're literally
surrounded by circling you and like what do you do?
Like you have no other people to It's like at
that point there's all those different characters had had their
little moments like saving the pace on the door or whatever,
right like no one has the moments left. They're all
surrounded and here we are, and then it's just like

(01:40:10):
fam perfect t Rex. Yeah, my only uh of course
I wish it didn't nitpick. But last night when I
watched it for the very first time after seeing this
movie twenty times, I was like, how did they not
see that t rex in there? So I know he
came into the door, but they were all like, oh
my god, yeah, I really get busted in all right.

(01:40:32):
In my mind, it just like walks in. It doesn't
walk in, you know, it has to literally just like
crash over the wall. I think I needed I would
have appreciated seeing that moment because the way they shot it,
it was he was just in the room all of
a sudden, And last night was like, didn't they see that?
There's a few moments where I feel like I was like,
wasn't that dinosaur like right behind them and were having

(01:40:54):
like thirty seconds of conversation where like that dinosaur would
have totally eaten you by I know, And that's such
a great line when Dr Sadler is like when Jeff
Goldbloom is doing the whole thing like man creates dinosaur
blah blah, and she's like, oh, dinosaur eats man. Woman

(01:41:15):
in harrots here like that that was so that was
such a good, like quick moment. He just looks at
her like girl. Yeah, and I can imagine what that
means to a little girl in a movie theater, Like
that stuff matters. Well, I feel like, you know, my
childhood was very much surrounded by Disney princesses, you know,

(01:41:37):
and not that I don't love Disney movies, and I
totally you know, as a kid, you know, Lion King
was my world. Probably watched the movie a hundred times,
but you know, they were just that was it. It
was like, here's what you can be. Here's the Halloween
costume that exists for you in these different shapes, and
they're all dresses. If you're in peril, just wait to

(01:41:59):
be saved. Remember very specifically a memory of going to
my friend Kellyn's first grade birthday party and it was
a Laddin themed of course, everybody's obsessed with Disney and
everybody has to wear the outfit, and I, you know,
of course, had my mother make mine a sweatsuit version
of a Jasmine outfit while the other girls had these
like stomach showing things. Mine like a purple sweatsuit with

(01:42:21):
some jewels on it, which I thought was hilarious, but
it was right after so that was like the same
time period was like a Laddin was like ninety two
and dress of Parts and I had just seen Jurassic Parks.
I brought Jurassic Park gift dinosaur paleontologists, you know, and
it was like, okay, I don't think any I think
that I maybe saw it younger earlier my peers because

(01:42:43):
they were all like super Disney. Still, I feel like,
and it was like a Laddin themed presence, and then
mine was like Betters, like wanting it for myself and
it was so cool. It's like, yeah, cool, Yeah, you
probably could have snuck out with the gift again, just
taken mom and no one would have noticed. Yeah, like,
well you didn't seem like you appreciate it, so I'm

(01:43:04):
just going to take it back. But I definitely remembered
that feeling of like I would have rather have been
doctor Ellie Sadler, you know, and not Jasmine. There was
not What about these Disney princesses were interesting. I feel
like my Halloween costumes as a kid and how they
said my mom made me something. I was like a
puppy dog one year, it's a unicorn with like yarn hair.

(01:43:27):
I never really did the princess. Then my daughter is
because you know, being a modern parent, we're trying our best.
I feel like you can do anything you want. You
don't have to know how you navigated this world is crazy.
Cell phones freaks me out. I know it is a
little freaky. But she's into dinosaurs and so far from
Halloween she's been exclusively animals like that was totally me

(01:43:52):
insect uh ladybug bumblebee. And I don't know if we
did anything for her first one, but and this is
she's picking love that you Yeah, I love that because
I just can't I just have the family. Oh man, kids,
I feel like there is more. I feel like they're trying,

(01:44:15):
you know, not as much. It's not exclusively like just
Disney Princesses now yea, and the show's out now are
really pretty good. But I'm still totally horrified by the internet.
And I watched eighth grade recently, so cringe e awful
because I felt, in some ways so kindred to this

(01:44:36):
person because I was kind of quiet and awkward and
didn't really I know, you're like quiet, sure the fact
that I really was, And I think it's because I
felt like I didn't really belong where I was. I
didn't have a lot of people that I felt like
minded to the environment that I grew up in, and
I was so related to that her just feeling like

(01:44:57):
so alone. I always had like one single kind of
best friend, and I yeah, it hurt me, But then
it hurt me to watch her be so obsessed with
her phone and internet and like that weird like validation
that kids need where I'm like, can I just if
I accidentally have a child or something like, can I

(01:45:20):
give them a flip phone like they have to have?
Because I feel like that's such a distinct difference between
even my age and like kids in their twenties now
is like I'm I'm almost thirty two, and you know
I had a I am like I didn't. I didn't
have texting until college or iPhones like internet in that way,
Like and it's so scary and so weird to think

(01:45:43):
about how much people you know. But if you deny
them it, then you're like putting them behind. And so
I don't know, Yeah, I like, do you know how
to use an iPhone? Meanwhile, there's like a three year
old who can work an iPhone better than me. I'm like,
this happened, Like there's a lot of trust that you
have to have in them and yourself and scarily like

(01:46:06):
in society, because that's the least trustworthy. You know. It's
like how can I know? But it's either that or
just like move you know, the internet into a cave,
dark and crazy place. And I think about that with
kids and like watching the movie, Yeah, it was a
great movie in that way that I just cringe and
my stomach r like the whole time I watched it

(01:46:26):
because I was just like, oh, you cann do that, Like,
don't say that. You're gonna regret sayings like don't be
stupid movie you want to jump into and like help, Yeah,
you're like, don't tell that guy that you give blowjob
when you were so like just it's okay to be
weird and be yourself and not fit in go make

(01:46:48):
go hang out with that kid with the mask that's
also weird. And then she does and I love that,
but I think that's such a weird thing with kids,
of trying to figure out where you belong and like
trying to make yourself fit into something that's that's always
been the case, though it's just now it's more public, Yeah,
which doesn't make it harder and you're exposed. So, you know,

(01:47:11):
I feel like kids these days are it's like, how
do you figure out yourself and like who you are
if you're so bombarded with influences all the time. Yeah,
it's like, let's just go maybe just camp in the
woods for a minute, you know, get him away from
it all, right, Mallory, We finished with five questions. Well

(01:47:40):
we already know the answer, but for the sake of
doing it all in one place, first movie in the
theater Jurassic Park. I had to call my dad to
corroborate this story actually because verified it. I was like,
you know, trying to place it, and at first he
was confused. He was like, oh, the first r raided
movie we saw in the theater was The Bird Cage.
That's the next question. So my dad um like, which

(01:48:04):
is crazy because I was like eight for Bird Cage. Yeah,
but my parents took me and my sister to go
see The Bird Cage in the theater, which is so amazing.
It's fun innocuous. Well, because they're so because my dad
he was like, well, we knew. The only reason you
know it was because of it had LGBT themes and

(01:48:28):
who cares like you could handle that, like we because
that's my parents had this like insane trust in me
as a kid, I feel like to handle adult teams.
And I loved that. And I don't even remember doing that,
and I loved that he reminded me of it. And
then we watched The Bird Cage, which is such a
such a good movie. But because I was trying to
think of the actual first are like just first R

(01:48:48):
rated movie like in general, and I feel like that
was Halloween. I watched Halloween when I was really young.
Well my so my best friend when I was in kindergarten,
first grade, second her dad had one of those um
like vhs recording like pirrating things. Yeah, so every movie
he rented he would Yeah. So they had these like

(01:49:11):
drawers and drawers and drawers. People taped movies so we
wouldn't get into that. And I remember having like six
or seven or something and watching That's the worst movie
for a kid because it's babysitter Ship. It's not only
just slasher, but it's like the person in charge of
watching me is going to get murdered. But that's just
it's funny to try to remember those things too, because

(01:49:34):
I do. I just remember like absorbing slasher movies really young.
I was just like I wanted to watch Friday the thirteen,
and we like watch all these child's play horrible movies.
But I love to be scared, and I was excited
by that because of my very safe childhood. But it's
just funny to think about that. I was like, Wow,

(01:49:55):
I was like really young and I was exposed things great,
Yeah in the bird Cage? Will you walk out of
a bad movie? I I don't go to the theater
that much. Um, and I don't know, I feel like
my inherent like awkwardness would maybe not like I wouldn't
want to make someone feel bad or just like walking

(01:50:19):
in for you know, like being rude and like, I
don't know some like weird sense of But I was
like talking about this with my boss. She was like,
why would there's not worth my time to do that?
You know, like, well, it's like the movie is so bad,
I will not put myself through it. But I've definitely
so as far as since I don't really go to
movies that much, turning something off at home it's hard.

(01:50:42):
I am a glutton for punishment. It's like I want
to finish it. And I want to find the one
redeeming thing about it, or I want to analyze it,
like why it was so bad. I could have been
done differently, but I just I have David like falls asleep,
doesn't care, turns it off whatever. I'm like, I gotta know,
like what's going to happen. I think it was like

(01:51:02):
a little bit of that. I watched The Snowman. Have
you seen that movie? Oh God, it's so bad. So
I watched it because it like the trailer looked good.
It's like, oh, it's like horror. But I think that
might have been the one movie that I turned off recently.
I just like or I fell asleep and never it
was just like painful. I think Michael Fastbender or something.
It's like interesting. I think it's him, and they're um

(01:51:25):
like some serial killer thing. So it's like automatically like dumb,
I'm gonna watch the serial Killer movie like it was
gonna be great, but I just fell asleep. And because
I had like a slow bird of a movie, like
I can totally watch a super boring movie if it's
really beautiful, it's really interesting, you know, I can get
lost in that, just like oh wow, that looked great.
Nothing ever happened, but like it looked really cool. But

(01:51:49):
sometimes if it's like just bad and it's boring, if
I can, if I fall asleep during it, I won't
bring myself to come back and rewatch it. So that
might be my version, all right, sleep walking out of
a movie. Uh, let me see here number four. This
is a Malory specific question, so let's keep it on

(01:52:11):
set deck. Um, maybe what movie? What movie in the
past couple of years has like impressed you the most
with literally just the set design and the decoration. And
that's so hard. There's so many different almost like genres
of movies I really would love. I love like the
modern Western, okay, like like a No Country for Old

(01:52:35):
Men or Bred or like David Lowry movies, and I
love those like Sweeping, It's like the color palette, it's all.
It just puts you in this weird rorole, Like you
go into little stores and they look like they've been
there for fifty years. It's like, that's what it's really like.
And I love that. And I love like in No

(01:52:55):
Country for Old Men when you go into the trailer
the live and there's just like all this you're drunk,
and it's like, so, you know, it's like I think
it's supposed to be late seventies or something, and all
these great little dated moments and it's all in that
same just like dusty color palette. I love that. I
love it. Just I love when a whole movie, When

(01:53:16):
a movie carries you through like that in a palette
of making, it really sets you in that. I love
a small town movie untually, you know, I feel like
TV is doing that really well. I really liked um
recently I saw I watched Sharp Objects and that house.
It's incredible, Like it's so beautifully designed. It's like a

(01:53:36):
character almost in itself. And I love that. That's totally
what gets me hooked, you know. And I feel there's
a lot of movies that I really appreciate design and
set decoration aspects of but those kind of things where
you can create something that's so iconic, so like you know,
you think of it and it's like that's the that's

(01:53:57):
the look, that's the you know, wow, Like that house
blew me Away and all the little bits of it,
it was so sterile, and because that mom was such
an evil bit, she's so good. She's so good because
I adore her and to flip that to this character, Oh,
she's so horrible, so horrible, and that's just a testament

(01:54:19):
to her acting in Yeah, but I think that that's
so a lot of times, you know, I think it's
hard to make spaces empty, you know, like it's very
difficult for our job to like let things be sparse
and over doing because you're like, oh, no, I need
to do the life layer, I need this, but right now,
like some people are really sterile. And I felt like
there was those good parts of those the house where

(01:54:41):
the dad's like in the little den with all of
his records, his little space, but then you look at
the rest of it, it's so perfect and free, little
antique and thing is just so And I love that
because that's her character and her obsession with perfection, and
you know, the image she gives off to people, and
it really comes through in that because I think it's

(01:55:02):
difficult too and set deck and design of overdoing it
to being distracting because you don't want it to be
you don't want to notice it almost yeah, you want
it to just be like this subtle like lifting up
of elevating the you know, making it deeply, but if
you're so distracted by what it looks like, then you're

(01:55:23):
missing a point. You're like missing it's like it should be.
It's cool when it becomes its own character, its own moment.
If it goes too far past that, or if like
the acting or the story isn't good enough to keep
up with it is, you learn what I mean. You
get why there are so few really great movies. I mean,
everything has to come together. Everything does have to come together,

(01:55:45):
and it is such a collaborative process. And I think
that when people can put aside their ego and be
more collaborative, it's so much more successful because everybody has
good ideas. Sometimes some are better and others, and sometimes
a producer has an idea about what something should look like,
and the production designer needs to reel them in and

(01:56:06):
get them out of there, and it's like there's too
many cooks in the kitchen, you start to lose, you know.
So I think it's really important when the designer and
the director in the DP are all kind of on
the same page, because they're the ones that are ultimately
controlling that look, and everybody else kind of starts to
have their two cents. You stray yeah, you got to

(01:56:28):
be like listen, I know you gave me all this money, right,
but I needs you to trust me. Yeah. And that's
on like a creative project like a film or TV
Like I don't know how many TV commercials you worked on,
but quite a few. All of a sudden, you've got
some person from either the client or the advertising uh company,
where it's just like, all of a sudden, they're over

(01:56:50):
by camera, pointing at the screen and saying, well, what
does this thing in the corner? Couldn't that really be?
It's so bad. I remember doing a commercial one time
where I bought like over twin te different towel sets,
like colors of towels and like a hand towel a towel,
and I think for like a bathroom renovation thing like
I don't know, like HDTV or Home Depot or something,

(01:57:12):
And it was so mind numbing because I just like
show up and they're just like, well, I mean this
pige versus and you're just like, oh my god, you're
trying to sell up. Like it was mind numbing, self important,
and just like it's like fun to do commercials. Sometimes
they pay well, and well you're in and out in

(01:57:32):
like a week, yeah, and it's over. But then sometimes
you're just like, oh my god, I can't get this
week back. Can I get this week back in my life?
And I do think that's the difference with movies is
that ultimately, when you work on a movie, it's like
you get this really cool, complete project. You know, you
get to watch it, and even if it was so bad,

(01:57:55):
like I worked on Mother's Day. I don't know if
you're familiar with the last Gary Marshall moan being yeah, yeah,
um it's so bad, and I had like a hundred
big stars on it, right, Oh yeah, so many famous
people and oh but it's like, oh, it's hurts. It's
like painfully bad to watch. And that's one of the
things where I'm like, yeah, you know, I'm glad I
watched it because I worked on it and like cool whatever, right,

(01:58:17):
but it's like I can't get those two hours and
that that hurts sometimes. But that's a lucky thing to
get to do projects that you like. It's truly, you know,
we also have bills to pay and you got to
you know, put food on the table, so you don't
always get to pick and shoes kind of what you
get to do. So when you do get those moments,

(01:58:40):
those Titania's, it's like little bits of like, oh, like
I got I did a little bit of Stranger Things
and working for that decorator now and she's great, and
like we get doing those little moments, it's like makes
it all worth it. Like that was so fun. I
had a great time. But you don't get to have those.
And then it's followed by, like, you know something a
year of silly comedies or Atlanta's bread and Butter. I

(01:59:02):
kind of feel like it's the mid level silly comedy.
Make every silly comedy that's come out going on all
from Atlanta, Atlanta as a myriad of other cities. Yeah,
bad moms, bad bosses, like bad neighbors. It's all the
zag Cock Blockers, all those movies. So every Melissa McCarthy movie.

(01:59:25):
I've done a few. Alright, finally movie going one on one? Um,
what's what's your jam? We need to go to the theaters?
Well yeah, I don't. I don't go much. Um. I
have a tendency too. I like to be early two things,
have like an anxiety about being late. So then somehow
eventually something always goes wrong and I'm late, and I'm

(01:59:47):
just like trying to where can I just sit That's
like the most inconspicuous. I also don't see very well
in the dark, like that person at the restaurant that's
like trying to hold my phone menu see it. So
I'm just kind of like dark for the closest comfortable space.
I don't like to sit very close to other people,
and it really bothers me when the theater is like

(02:00:07):
empty and sits right next to you makes me insane.
So I feel like I'm usually somewhere in those like
first few rows of the back section. It's just like, oh,
closest to the exit, which I feel like. It's also
a weird like leftover stress thing from my allergy thing
that happened which I conquered. Actually I never got to

(02:00:29):
that part of this. I'm no longer allergic to mustard.
The medical miracle eight all the time, really, and I
went to the hospital like seven times for antif electric
chalk for it. But I do think it's like a
carry over anxiety thing with the crowds and escape of
like always being able to quickly leave somewhere because when
they would happen like it would start with my palms itching,

(02:00:51):
and I'd be like, okay, go get in a cargo
to the hospital. Now call an ambulance, you know. So
I think that's kind of a I like to be
like close to it and you feel this swell coming
and you got my hands are itching. I hate that.
I love like an aisle seat. I really just yeah,
you just got physically uncomfortable when I was doing that.

(02:01:12):
I think I'm overly aware of being rude sometimes, Like
I just really don't want to bother people obsess about
like my impact on other people. I could make myself
smaller sometimes because I just, yeah, I don't want to
be in the way if I have the key in
the middle of the movie. I don't want to have
to like ruined someone else's movie going experience because you're

(02:01:35):
because you're dumb bladder, And I'm like, I don't want
to be that person, you know. But I don't usually
get like snacks at a movie theater. I worked at
a theater for a while in Marietta. I worked at
the Strand, which is like on the square historic theater
where they do plays and shows and it's also an
event space. So I made popcorn, Okay, and it's just

(02:01:59):
kind of and I love popcorn at home, but there's
like a certain movie theater popcorn smell and flavors makes
me want to die. I hate it so much. It
I just think about the machine and that like gross.
As I'm like also wearing like a it was like
one of those theaters, or I was like party down

(02:02:21):
kind of like Satter bartender person. I would do concessions.
I love that show, so I would either any what
was happening, I would either be working concessions or I'd
be doing the event bar upstairs and going back and forth.
And yeah, I hated doing the concession It's just like, yeah,
let me make popcorn and sodas while I'm wearing a bowtie,

(02:02:41):
and here we go. You know, a lot of weird jobs.
It's a perfect way to end this episode. Thanks, Thanks fantastic.
All right, everybody, I hope you enjoyed that as much
as I did. I know you love Mallory Um after

(02:03:04):
listening to that episode, because she is just wonderful. Um, smart, cool, talented.
Um knows a lot about movies and knows a lot
about Jurassic Park, as it turns out, And it was
cool to get her perspective as uh, someone a lot
younger than me that saw this movie when she was
just a week kid, as opposed to me, who was

(02:03:25):
an old man of twenty two at the time. It
was cool to kind of bridge that with her, and Uh,
I had a lot of a lot of fun talking
to her. I'm gonna have her again at some point.
I'm gonna have some repeat guests on and Mallory definitely
makes the cut everybody, So I hope you enjoyed it
as much as I did. And until next time, remember
objects in that mirror are closer than they appear. Movie

(02:03:56):
Crush is produced, engineered, edited, and soundtrack by Noel Brown
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