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February 27, 2025 • 38 mins

Jamie Mackay talks to Sir David Fagan, Mark Cameron, Anna Nelson, Chris Brandolino, Rachel Shearer, Stu Duncan and Stu Loe.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's the Country
Podcast with Jamie mckaye. Thanks to Brent, You're specialist in
John Deere construction equipment.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Get Ainy Zealand and welcome to the Country. First song
courtesy of our first guest, Sir David Fagan has record
sixteen open titles at the Golden Shares will never be beaten,
or at least I don't think they will be. And
I said to him, what's your favorite sharing song? And
he said, if you're looking for real motivation, you can't

(01:02):
go past Understruck by ACDC A real favorite at the
speed shehess Sir David Fagan to kick off the show.
Mark Cameron is the act local activist MP dairy farmer
from rural wy just down the road from Dargavill. Of
course dargaval It's day two of the Northland Field Days.
Will go there. Yesterday afternoon I went to Vietnam, not me,

(01:23):
but I rang someone up in Vietnam. Anna Nelson, chair
of silver Fern Farms, King Country Farmer. David probably knows her.
She's over there on the trade delegation with the PM
and the likes of Fonterra and Zesbury Chris Brandolina on
the Big Dry as Taranaki declares drought. Rachel Scherer, great
name for a wall expert from PGG Rights and the

(01:45):
Farmer Panel, Stu Low and Stu Duncan Radio, Sir David Fagan,
Welcome to the Country, Day two of three, also of
the Golden Shares. Let's get straight into it. Who are
you picking for the Open Final?

Speaker 3 (01:59):
I knew you were going to ask there, Jamie. I
knew you were going to ask that.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Well, you're not. You're not allowed to duck for cover either.
Come on, just because you're a Knight doesn't mean you're excused.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
Look, there's a few guys putting their hands up. Roland
Smith of course hasn't been doing a lot this season,
but he's when he does, he's pretty bloody good and
he'll be there when the drums are beating. Don't worry.
But you know you've got the likes of Leon Samuels
and Tour Henderson and of course David Buick, who's had
a stellar season since he's come back from injury. So

(02:30):
I think if one of those four don't get in
the final and do something pretty big will be you
could call it probably an upset. Yeah, and the other
guy who happened before.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Sorry David, the other guy. The tab are rating amongst
those top four. Leon Samuel's role in Smith, David Buick
and Tower Henderson is Gavin much. He's also at six fifty,
the same as Henderson. Now he's won it before, toer
Henderson hasn't won it, David Buick hasn't won it obviously,
Rolands one at eight times, Leon just the once. How

(03:00):
how much as runs on the board when you get
up there. I know you've got to win your first
one at some stage, but it is nerve racking.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
Oh it's never wracking. I'll tell you what. Coming into
this place, you can, you can dream all you like,
but if you don't make that final, you don't get
a crack at it. And we saw Tor Henderson last
year one pretty much everything for a month before the
event here and then he failed to make the finals.
So as a competitor, you're here on knife edge making
sure you qualify through each round, and you know if

(03:30):
you make that big dance you don't get a crack
at winning it.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
We are, of course preparing for World Championships next year,
so I guess does this well put it this way,
does the Golden Shears qualify if you qualify you for
the New Zealand team for next year or does that
happen later.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
No, it's happening now. Well it's happening already. We've had
one event at Gore this year a few weeks ago. Whoever,
We've got a circuit that goes through the Sudden Shoes
and Gor, then Golden Shares, New Zealand Shares, Great Rahania Shares,
I think Winton and Lumston are in it, and then
through to Martin. There's about h shows and all these

(04:09):
guys are competing at that event and we'll know who
the top qualifiers they make the New Zealand team next
February and the next six will share in a one
off final at Martin in February and that's how we
get out to share. So it's going to be a long,
long circuit, but we're going to find out who's competitive
and you know, inform weekend week out it's going to

(04:31):
be incredible.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
I noticed in the wool handling the likes of Kiar
and her but As there or thereabouts, But Joel Henare,
I don't know how many will open wall handling titles.
He won, he's won, he's he's an absolute hot favorite.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Yeah, of course. And just remember you've got New Zealand
ball handlers that are making China and I've got a
circuit similar for the sharing that'll make that team. Kieran
of course is competing for the Cook Islands, so she
won't be in the New Zealand team, so that opens
it up a bit for a few of the Kiwis.
But your Joel, I mean, sure to him doing something wrong,
he's got to be hot for over it. Absolutely talk us.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Through this afternoon and what happens tomorrow, because we've got
a Test match or two to squeeze them there as
well against the Aussies.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
It's an electric atmosphere down here. I mean, just as
a competitor, just driving into this town gives you goosebumps
and little ae walking into that stadium where the Golden
Shares are held. It's something to behold and it'll never
get repeated anywhere in the world. It's pretty pretty special.
So yeah, right now on the Live on right now

(05:37):
is the senior heats, about two o'clock the open heat start.
I've got record entries down here throughout the whole event.
There's over one hundred competitors in the Open Sharing, which
is amazing. So that'll happen this afternoon. Top thirty out
of that one hundred make the quarterfinals they call it,
or the top thirty tonight. That will be unbelievable and

(05:57):
that gets cut down to twelve. Tomorrow is for the
for the open events. Who's the PGG Wrights and ved
Med Circuit semi final in the morning, the Open semi final.
Top twelve get cut the end of six for that
big final on Saturday night. War Hamming tests tonight against Australia,
the Sharing Sharing test against Australia. To my night. Yeah,

(06:20):
and as I've said many years, coming down here, there's
really only one person happy driving out of this town
on Sunday. So let's see who it is.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Okay, Hey, your son Jack's a gun speed share. He
got pipped last night by a local wire rapper sharer
and I've just forgotten his name. Excuse me, you might
better fill in the gap for me.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
Yeah, Chris won each year. Jack was next into they
took three into the final. He was fourth, I think.
But yeah, just a quick fire event last night. The
sorry team New Zealand team with Leon Samuels and Chris Vickers.
I know they were out practicing this morning and looking
at the Marinos with the Australian team sorting them up.

(07:00):
So that'll be all go tomorrow night.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yeah, and he's got another bite at the cherry because
he's also in the National Sharing Circuit, the PGG Rights
and VETMD National Sharing Circuit and the favorite there or
leading the field at the moment. And this guy is
amazing for longevity. I know you've shown many a sheep
with and against him. Nathan Stratford.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
Yeah, Nathan's top qualifier in the PGG VET Mid circuit,
So yeah, he is favorite and rightly so. But once
again he's twelve people in that event. Tomorrow morning they
share off and we'll find out who makes the top six.
I've been in that position myself like Nathan, and unless
you and missing out on the final, Unless you make
that final, all that work all season has mean for nothing.

(07:41):
So it's all Playpoul in the morning.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Really, Now you've driven all the way. I'm assuming you've
driven all the way from King Country down to the
wire wrapper. They tell me you're very very dry at home.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
Yeah, bit this pointed yesterday to hear that Taranaki has
been declared at drought and the King Country hasn't. King
Henry Wacato. Yes, we're in severe conditions up there. I
don't know who makes those rules or how they do it.
Come and have a look at home, Come and have
a look at the farm at home, and it's we're
in drought conditions, no doubt about that. And I'm not
quite sure who makes those rules or what even the

(08:14):
benefits benefits are by declaring a drought. But yeah, it's
a severe season. We just keep waiting for real rain
one day, no doubt.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Okay. So David Fagan, thank you very much for your time.
Really looking forward to the Golden Shares over the next
day and a half, especially that big Open final. As
I said earlier or yesterday, it literally lifts the roof
off the Master and War Memorial Stadium, doesn't it. Atmosphere
to die.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
For Jamie, And just remember, anyone want to join that atmosphere.
It's about five bucks and you get really good quality
live streaming. It's on the whole time. I've hooked up
so that when I'm away from the event, I can
see what's happening and the live streaming is superb.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Yep, that's what I'll be doing tomorrow night. After the footy,
I'll be watching the open fire. Sir David Fagan. Thanks
is always for your time. Appreciate it, plead it. There
we go, Sir David Fagan, right sharing songs might be
the theme for today up next. Well, he's not really
a sharer, he's a cowcocky. He's also an actualist MP.

(09:16):
His name is Mark Cameron. He's at the Northland Field Days.
We talked about the Golden Shares being day two of three. Well,
that's what they're doing in Dargaball for the Northland Field Days.
We'll catch up with him. Yesterday afternoon I caught up
with Anna Nelson's share of silver Fern Farms and Vietnam.
We're going to talk whether with Chris Brandolino see if
we can get some rain for your Rachel Sharer Talking

(09:38):
Wall and our farmer panel stew Duncan and Stulo Welcome

(10:01):
back to the country. Twenty after twelve Slice of Heaven.
On the other end of the line, Act List MP
AG is the associate Egg. I have to ask Mark
Cameron Northland to throw and through mark. What's your official title?

Speaker 4 (10:19):
Good afternoon by the way, Oh look, my queen's got
a good afternoon. Good to talk to you as always.
Jamie at the primary industry spokesperson for the Egg Party.
So yeah, all things rural, from pine trees to fisheries
to farming, all things are arable. Yeah, that's me. I'm
happy to chat about all of them.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Now you live in rural I just up the road
from you as Dargovia where you are today for the
Northland field days. Have you got a slice of heaven
there today? Weatherwise? You probably have and it's the last
thing you need.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
Yeah, she's pretty balmy outside. I can tell you that,
Jamie is twenty five twenty six degrees. The cracks on
the ground and got pretty wide. And as I say
to my rural punters, getting the bat and out tied
them to your bump because you can disappear. It's pretty
dry fast track at the moment.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
You travel around a bit of the country in your
job as an egg MP or a rural MP. Look,
a lot of the North Islands dry. I mean the
East coast faring better than the West coast, which is
a bit unusual. But I was looking at those scenes
on the network news of Taranaki last night.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
Gee it's dry, Yeah, those four buggers, and then you
can see why their lips are cubbing down there right
shot down the island and airplane the other day, and
people are really straped on. There's not a lot of
tucker on hand. There's not a lot of tucker, Granny evidently,
if there's anything at all, and the hardest thing jam in.
It looks like the weather gods are not playing in
our favor. There's nothing on the horizon for a few

(11:43):
weeks yet. So yeah, it's trying to be a hard
and long hawk with many people.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Yeah, and to make things even worse. And I don't
want to be the harbinger of doom here, but it's
one thing. Running out of feed. You can buy in feed,
but gee, once you start running out of stockwater, you're
running out of moves on the chess board one.

Speaker 4 (12:03):
And you know, we always say in water is king,
And a lot of these guys got open water sources, dams,
et cetera. The aquifers are the flow rates are slowing down,
but it's the open open water sources that really struggle.
Evaporation rates now are four and five miles a day.
You say you can do them epal mass quickly if
you aren't getting the rain. These these poor baggers are

(12:25):
as I rightly point out, and you've noted, they're running
out of stockhol water and it's becoming a real problem.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
An absolute nightmare. On a brighter note, what's the mood
on the ground and Dargavill for the Northland field days?

Speaker 4 (12:37):
Bloody good mate, I tell you what. People are pretty
excited about the optimism in the industries across the board.
The red meat sector has got some club back to it,
you know when it is actually worth something now when
they send a carcas away or a freezer bees or whatever.
Anything that you're setting off for the works is now
returning it fair old dividend. The the kerry sect of

(13:00):
course has held up, you know, big chunks of the
rural e colonomy. So they're doing well and people are
moving about actually spending a bit of coin, which is
great to see for the regional economies up and down
rural New Zealand. So while it's tough, especially in the
drought area so White Tarin Necking and others, at least
we're actually rendering a fair amount of money for our product.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Mark, You'll be making more money off the dairy farm
than you're off farm and come.

Speaker 5 (13:27):
This year.

Speaker 4 (13:30):
Becoming your FIBs and lies.

Speaker 5 (13:31):
If I said that wasn't the case.

Speaker 4 (13:33):
I go home and there's a few there's a few
pennies left, Jamie and the r at night, and it's
nice to see finally, you know, the dairy industry is
doing so marvelously well, long may at last. And I
know there's a few smiles because of it. But the
wider points is, Jamie, it's helping that country, right, I mean,
dear little country we live and there's been through the

(13:55):
economic dog drums and it's so nice to your rural
New Zealand. So I pulled up it's trails, just went
back to work and it's sort of during the economic
ship in the right direction.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Good on you, Mark Cameron, well spoken there he is
Mark Cameron, actalst MP, a spokesperson for the ACT Party.
Twenty four after the twelve up Next, Anna Nelson, I
caught up with a yesterday afternoon in Vietnam. Good good
news stories coming out of Vietnam. We're looking at something
like what is it, three billion dollars of two way

(14:28):
trade by twenty twenty six. Very ambitious indeed. Anyhow, we'll
catch up with her before the end of their Chris Brandolino,
I don't know if he's got any good news for you. Sorry.
When it comes to the rain, Rachel share up from
PGG rights on a wall market that's had a very
good past six months. But is it starting or is
water starting to find its level? There? And the farmer

(14:49):
panel stew duncan and stew loader Rappitti that's the bottom line.
Great to catch up with Anna Nelson again. Who's Anna Nelson? Well,
she's the chair of Silverfern Farms. She's a King Country farmer.

(15:10):
She's a Vet as well, and she's in Vietnam at
the moment with the Prime Minister signing trade deals or
something like that. Anna. From a silver fern farm's point
of view, how big a deal is Vietnam As a
trading partner.

Speaker 6 (15:23):
Yeah, get Jamie. Great to catch up. It's Vietnam is
a small market for self and farms, but one that
we're really interested in. There's potential here. There's a one
hundred million people or so, a rapidly growing middle class
in the restaurant trade in retail. It's all changing up

(15:44):
here as people are getting more wealthy. They're really interested
in what the future of their diet looks like. They're
very interest in the education system. It's an incredibly mobile
and a very interesting country to be spending some time.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
I've never been there before. People say it's a fascinating country.
I would love to go there alone for the war history,
but I just imagine it as being a bit hot
and sweaty and muggie. What's it like Because you're in
northern Vietnam at the moment, in Hanoi, and you'll be
heading to ho Chi Min City later on, which is
what saigone, isn't it. So what's the weather like?

Speaker 6 (16:20):
Yeah, it's I'd say right now, I'd love to be
able to send a little bit of this rain in
cooler weather in Hanoi that come to area to the
King Country's It's quite pleasant up here in raining today.
We are flying south, like you say, the aufternoon, and
it's going to be I think it's peaking at thirty
five degrees then fligne humidity in Hochimen, so pretty different

(16:43):
when we get to get further south.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
So Christopher Luxen is being very ambitious, and to be
fair to him, he's a bit of an energizer bunny
on the world stage when it comes to these trade deals.
He's looking at two way trade of three billion dollars
between our countries by next year. That ambitious. Is it realistic?

Speaker 6 (17:02):
It's ambitious, definitely. I think it is realistic. I think
that's that's right across the sectors and in this group
of businesses he's got up here with him. We've got education,
we've got quite a lot of heart. We've got some
guys from the tech industries with some really interesting opportunities.
So it's been great to spend some time with all

(17:24):
of them talk about what we have in common, what
we don't, where the challenges are for all of us,
and the opportunity. So I think he's I think it's
a realistic target and it's a good one to have.
Really interesting for New Zealand, Team New Zealand, how we
can look to build and leverage the strengths of all

(17:45):
of us.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
You must find these very valuable for you as the
chair of Silver fir And Farms, because you're rubbing shoulders
with your stable mates from the likes of Fonterra and Zespery,
huge multinational companies one hundred amy.

Speaker 6 (17:59):
I mean, I'm just stepping into this role. And the
time spent it's on the plane everywhere, all the time
I'm learning. Building connections just makes you think when you're
out of New Zealand think differently. You're just forced to
give a bit of time to where we're heading, why
we're doing what we're doing. So just incredibly grateful to

(18:24):
have the chance to get away and connect with others
and look at a different country, a different culture, completely
different market.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
Hey, what are the challenges for the likes of silver
Fern Farms, Because, as you said, red meat is not
a big player in the market and Vietnam at the moment,
how do you make it a big player?

Speaker 6 (18:42):
Currently they get most of their red meat or their
beef is all from India. It's buffalo from India, so
that any of the big wheat markets. So it's a
pretty basic both retail and food service. Everything's pretty basic here.
So I think there's how as the country gets well
the here, how do we find the right partners, How

(19:05):
do we preempt where the right infrastructure is going to
be to help us turn up with the right people
at the right time with the right products. So there's
spending time up here as essential and it's a balance
right for all New Zealand companies meat processes. Where do
you invest your small amount that we've got in searching

(19:26):
for and growing new markets and we need to pack
those ones where there is going to be the real growth.
And I think that we're seeing some science here of
real changes in infrastructure and investment within this country and
net wealth that we're talking about.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Anna Nelson with US chair of Silver fir and Farms,
she's on the trade trip to Vietnam with the PM.
Just a final word on your King Country property. You
run a fourteen hundred and fifty hectare breeding and finishing
block with HBBI Blair and others. How dry is it?

Speaker 6 (20:00):
Beginning of October? We haven't had a hell of a
lot of rain. Through to Christmas it was okay, grass
was growing well. Since early January nothing well six mills, sorry,
our six mills, and so it's dry. It's buddy dry
for us. Heavey is spending a lot of time cutting
poplars and willows and feeding out silag. We've got a

(20:20):
few pits of silage so and really just making decisions
around the prioritizing stock, how to feed them. It's not
extreme for us, but it is very dry and it
is definitely impeding decisions on farm at the moment.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
There you go, Anna and Nelson. I hope some of
those wonderful king country sharers, and I know some of them,
quite a few of them have come from Aria do
well on the Golden Shares this weekend. Thanks for some
of your time from Vietnam.

Speaker 6 (20:45):
Thank you, Jamie. I'm sure those shares will do very
well and you know, looking forward to seeing and hearing
how that goes.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Thank you for the time, Anna Nelson. Something I prepared
yesterday afternoon afternoon, I think the great snow Quinn was
from Aria. I stand to be correct. Good on that one.
Some a your texts coming in complain for the second
day in a row you've been broadcasting safe anti farming ads.
Please take appropriate action, says Chris and the Whitehaddow. Look, Chris,
I think it's mate. It's called ambush marketing. We have

(21:15):
no control over who buys the ads, but don't worry,
we've sent the message up the line. Those half breeds,
they shouldn't be that. This is just really annoying me,
the fact that we're allowing them to buy ads in
a rural program. I guess they're succeeding in what they
want to do. Don't shoot the messenger. There, We are

(21:35):
onto that one. On your behalf. We are also running.
We have been running our eco Lab promotion, a thousand
dollars worth of Ecolab products and one thousand dollars worth
of cash. There is a drum roll here somewhere Where
is the drum roll? Let me find that it's worth
persevering with. Here we go. So Michelle who won the

(21:57):
eco Lab price.

Speaker 7 (21:59):
With Natalie Bilsma from the Wire Cattle. Now, as part
of that competition, you had to say what you would
use one thousand dollars cash for to help you relax
and take the weight off you on farm. And Natalie
said she's going to help it cater for her husband's
fortieth birthday and it means she can get a cater
in and not have to prepare food for sixty guests
after being up early milk and cow. So good on you, Natalie.

(22:19):
I hope your husband has a great fortieth birthday party.
And thanks to Eco Lab for that great prize from
on eco Lab Solid's go to ecolab Promotions dot Com.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Yeah, it's not going to be a bad catering gig
for a thousand bucks. Good on you and happy fortieth Hubby.
Up next Chris Brandolino from Niwa Rural News and Sports News.
Before the end of the hour, Rachel share Of from
PGG Rights and the Farm, Talking Will and the Farmer Panel,
stew Duncan and stew Low.

Speaker 8 (22:52):
I'm go well to that.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
So music from sharing playlist. So I wouldn't have thought
Shanaia would have been on the Shira's playlist, but apparently
she is. Of course, Moto Tapoo on tomorrow. Jane Smith's
running it along with a whole lot of other people.
Good luck, it's Shania's old farm. Chris Brendolino joins us
from Newa. Hey, Chris, I haven't got much time and
you haven't gotten much by good news from a rain

(23:20):
wise what have you?

Speaker 9 (23:21):
Yeah, look, nah, look, Jimmy, I mean, let's start with
the weekend. There will be some rain for Fijorland. It's
a bit dry there, but not like our friends in
Tedanaki and the Manawatu and North Island. You'll get some,
you know, so they'll be raining for the lower North
lower southbound. I beg your pardon, and maybe the odd shower.
Look today tomorrow there'll be some localized showers, maybe a

(23:42):
few downpours over the central North Island, so folks in
central and southern Waikato, that could be some good news,
but it's going to be localized. Then again on Saturday
against spotty showers all going to Northland. Drought conditions in Dargaville,
by the way, so western and southwest Northland is very
dry to outLike. Look, our best chance for rain is

(24:03):
going to be next week, probably Tuesday Wednesday, well Monday
night into early Wednesday. A front's gonna move north. If
there can be some moisture, it can kind of drag
down from a tropical cyclone and the coral see that
that would enhance the rainfall, but that looks pretty unlikely. Unfortunately,

(24:23):
it looks like we are going to see a dry
lean for much of the month of March and a
warm link could be a warm dry March as we
end the summer season, and if we're gonna get any
meetingful rainfall, if nothing happens next week looks which looks unlikely.
Some areas make it an okay drop of rain. We
may have to wait till late March, Jamie to get
anything meanful at least an opportunity for that.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Well, I guess for warmed is for thank you very much,
Chris Brandolina, enjoy.

Speaker 9 (24:49):
Your weekend YouTube brother, thank you.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Here we got does a great job there at NYWA.
What are we doing now? Rural news? I haven't even
read sports news, Michelle, do rural news and I'll have
a quick speed read of sports news, and if there's
any really hard names in there, I'll just stitch the
story to.

Speaker 9 (25:08):
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Speaker 2 (25:43):
Well, no, I've given up on the sports news because
I'm more interested in the New Zealand Gulf of Hope
and which is leading the sports news anyhow, And office
had a quick look at the leaderboard and Michael Hendry.
What a great comeback story this would be if he
could win it. He is under five under through today's
round and he's through sixteen, so he's tied for second.

(26:05):
There's a whole lot of assies, there's and there's a
bloke from China. Is that right here? Bloke from China? Second,
I just want to I'm just whipping through to see
who the other Kiwis are and I'm scratching to find
any Oh, here we go. Mark Brown is tied for
fourteenth and as I carry on down the list, I'm

(26:28):
struggling to find kiwi's. So it looks like Michael Henry
might be our best hope. Mind you, it's only we're
only just getting towards the end for some golfers will
be afternoon field out this afternoon. So he is doing
very well. He is tied for second and ten under
five under through today's round. YEP and don't forget.

Speaker 7 (26:51):
That we have Mawana Pacifica and the Highland is playing tonight.
You can listen to all Super Rugby on gold Sport.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Yep, looking forward to that game tonight. The Highland is
making it two from three should really be three from three.
Did I play the sports Liner, I don't think I did.

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co dot Nz.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
Yeah, well thanks Tom Young and crew. If I didn't
play that, I'd get a sack. I'd get the sack.
I wouldn't get any lamb shops from AFCO. Up next
Rachel Sharer talking about lamb shops. The the of course
sheep grow wool Wolve's been a bit of an improver
in the past six months or so. But are we
starting to meet some market resistance. Before the end of

(27:30):
the hour a farmer panel, stew Duncan and Stulo, let's
have a look at the wallmarket worth Rachel Sharer. That's
a great name for the GM of wol for PGG
rights and here on the country Rachel, Now I know
you're not getting up to the golden shares for the

(27:52):
big PGG rights and vetbed national sharing circuit final. But
that great South and the Nathan Stratford's going to take
a bit of beating.

Speaker 8 (28:00):
Busi'ty and it wouldn't it be wonderful if he took
it out again. But there's some really strong competition. I
think it's really encouraging. You know, it's amazing to see
those record entries despite that seventy percent decline and sheep
numbers over the past forty years. I understand that there
are record entries, so it's good idea to get them
behind these amazing, amazing athletes. And I think Rowen is

(28:21):
going to be there as well, isn't she.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Yep, Oh, she'd turn up at the opening of no envelope.
I discover a bit of grief. Actually she's the MC.
She does a great job there. Let's have a look
at the market. Bit of a correction yesterday in the
South Island sale. Now we've seen a marked improvement in
strong wall prices over the last what six months, but
I guess water eventually finds its level. Are we getting
buyer resistance at these prices?

Speaker 8 (28:44):
Look, the exporters are saying that they are starting to
meet some resistance, especially from those big markets of India.
And China at these higher prices. As you've mentioned, it
was a classic supplying demand story with the exporters looking
to fill their books. But now at these new levels
starting to meet some resistance. But there is some you know,
there is some positive news out there. Dan's been one

(29:07):
of the biggest us of the New Zealand wall. They
produce carpet yarn for the global global carpet industry. They're
reporting really strong demand coming from the cruise ship industry,
which I don't know on the back of COVID, I'm
pretty surprised, but about cruise ships. But the yeah, the
demand from the cruise ship industry of putting woolen carpets
in is quite significant. So they are reporting good demand.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
Beer well, the old floating petri dishes, they're more popular
than ever. If you could land or if the wool
industry could land that kayenger or a contract, that would
be a good news story.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
Oh wouldn't it.

Speaker 8 (29:40):
Wouldn't that be a significant boost for the sheep farmers
of New Zealand but also New Zealanders, you know, with
the wonderful properties of wool as far as health benefits.

Speaker 5 (29:51):
And the like.

Speaker 8 (29:52):
Wouldn't it be great? If we could land that contract
and ideally others as well, both internationally and domestically, because
it really is the increase in demand which is going
to which is going to drive prices where they need
to be for our hard working sheets owners.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Okay, one of the big wins recently in the wall market,
and this is quite interesting, is the ballets and pieces
and even the DAGs. They were literally worthless during the
real lows of COVID. At least now it's worth bailing
them up and selling them.

Speaker 8 (30:21):
Well, that's what that's what we're saying, you know, as
much as up to two dollars forty compared to during COVID.
You know, I got down to around that forty cents.
So it's probably a good time for growers to reconsider
putting those you know, those oddments, putting those DAGs on
the truck when they send in the rest of their
wall clip because it's been the biggest winner percentage wise

(30:41):
in the market.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
Okay, Rachel Scherer, I know you're not heading to the
Golden Shares. Plenty of the PGG rights and team are there.
You'll be at the Wanaka show next weekend. Enjoy it.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
Thank you.

Speaker 8 (30:52):
I'm looking forward to connecting in with all our growers
and as such, a great event is in it, so
look forward to hopefully seeing you there too, Jamie.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah, it'll be the place to be next weekend minds you.
We've also got the Rural Games happening the Ford, New
Zealand Rural Games and Palmerston North next weekend as well.
It's all happening Northland Field Days this weekend Golden Shares
Hey just in the New Zealand Golf Open at Millbrook.
Michael Henry tied for second of the kiwi's here, Mark

(31:21):
Brown tied for fourteenth, Jake Menhorst tied for twenty third,
Josh Gary also tied for twenty third. Ben Campbell drop
down the Field a wee Bit tied for thirty ninth
And just a message before I forget this is a
big shout out from Farm Strong to all the farmers
and growers who have made the effort to get along
to those Northland Field Days that Mark Cameron was at

(31:46):
at Dargaville. Nothing like a catch up with mates and
neighbors to recharge the batteries so you're good to go
again back on the farm. If you're at the Field
Days in Dargable. Make sure you drop in and say
hi to the farm Strong team. For free resources on
how to live well and farm well, head to farmstrong
dot co dot nz this weekend. Up next a couple

(32:07):
of strong farmers farm Strong Farmers stew Duncan stew Low.

(32:35):
Not a great sharing song, that is, it is ight
away from what I'm going to wrap it with today's
Farmer panel Steelo and North Canterbury stew Duncan in the Manetoto.
But you're somewhere else today stew.

Speaker 10 (32:46):
Yeah, I'm halfway up. The Nobby's on a full drive
training course with Foreign Emergency, just so we can learn
how to get into these real tricky spots for to
save a few idiots even now and then where's the
Nobbies about the TV? Just fruitlands out of Alexandra on
the way through the Rocksburgh.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Yeah, be pretty Is it getting dry there?

Speaker 5 (33:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (33:03):
Really dry? Just looking around we'll fair way up and
even some of the stock water is pretty quiet, but
it looks really dry. And looking back down towards the
Tivate Valley from here and over towards Paulburn, the minibon
looks pretty dry. So no, I think whole country down
air corners really dry so we I think the rain
forecast ladder and beginning next week, so it must be
be much needed.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
Yeah, yeah, I hope you get some of the news.
Isn't so good for the North Island. It's terrible there.

Speaker 5 (33:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (33:28):
Well I was up in the Coramandel there a week
or so agoing. I thought they're in a bed shack.
Really it was really dry, So everyone needs a good drink.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Probably an area that's fared as well as anywhere as Canterbury.
In fact, the arable farmers and the seed farmers can't
get enough fine weather to harvest their crop. Stew Low,
how are you going?

Speaker 5 (33:48):
You're not too bad. We've here. I think there's a
lunch too. We've got a thoroughly due really next week
which will be well receiver. Yeah. This time last year, Yeah,
the got turned off for us year. We're in comparison
to this time last year. We're a lot better off.
So we've got good covers at the moment. It's green,
but the moisture is not very fair.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Yeah, all your lambs will be gone ste Low.

Speaker 5 (34:12):
Years Yep, no sort of de stock due to health issues.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
Yeah, and those health issues are you too new knies.
How are they going?

Speaker 5 (34:20):
Yeah? Pretty good. Yeah, we're just a the ditch, the
ditch to clutches and get around. But you won't be
in a in a race digging or drenching lambs for
that too. I don't think have either of.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
You two ever been to the Golden Shares to an
open final on Saturday night. I'll start with you, Steve
duncan not.

Speaker 10 (34:38):
Do a Golden Shares. No, it been to the Shares
here a few times to finals, not a Golden Shoes.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
May well you're missing something that's a treat to behold,
quite literally, what about you, stew.

Speaker 5 (34:47):
No, I've been to a few local shows and year
they it's good to watch those. The real good year
is poetry emotion, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Yeah? It's uh. And we've got like record number of
novice and junior sharing and wool handling entries this year
at the Golden Shares. And when you look at the numbers,
you know, like sheep numbers I'm talking about. I think
the entries peaked in nineteen eighty two or nineteen eighty
for the Golden Shares. But back in those days, lads

(35:18):
and you would have been very young farmers who are
about to be young farmers. We had seventy million sheep.
We've only got twenty three million sheep now, ste duncan
do you see the arrest and the decline an arrest
and the decline of sheep farming?

Speaker 10 (35:35):
No, not really. This year we'll probably put less use
to the ram, but we have more cattle, ground, a
bit of grain, and yeah, no I think it until
we start seeing we'll come up doubling it at a
minimum and we're going to stay around that eight nine
ten dollars akilo or there's other land use types you
can do. And I think there's been a big change
down here. There's a big place sold twelve thousand US

(35:56):
the other day, and then there's words going into forestry
just not far fromay I'm sitting, naturally, so there's a
lot of us being sold out of these areas lately.
So no, until the wall thing tidies up, and there's
a lot of people running around and promising in the world,
but we've got to see it happen.

Speaker 5 (36:08):
In the balance.

Speaker 10 (36:09):
You to earth, I guess, kind of disappear.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
And you you fare a bit better on the wall front,
because yours is not a strong crossbread wall.

Speaker 10 (36:16):
Yeah, well we're in now. Our u wall's at twenty
three twenty four so that hits the market right, and
our hogit walls and that nineteen to twenty twenty one
microan so we do go readsonably well there, but we've
also got a couple of thousand crossbreds where you don't
get much change out.

Speaker 5 (36:29):
Of the day there.

Speaker 10 (36:30):
But as they compare it to other land use types
and other issues on farm, it just doesn't stack up.
So it's a byproduct of sheep. I guess that's if
you've got sheep, you've got to share them. If you
haven't got self shedding, but you know you muzzle. There's
a lot of quality wall through central Target, so a
lot of people are reluctant to get rid of it
because of the quality aspect. But it's just going to
come down to numbers over time. But if it does
come back, it's probably not hard to get back into sheep.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
So with your two new knees you might have a
renaissance on the end of a hand piece. If you've
got any brains, you won't have. But if you do,
would you ever consider south shedding sheep?

Speaker 5 (37:01):
Yeah, well, obviously being laid up. But I've been watching
bed Hour and there's oddly enough there's a shedding new
sail up in the Masterden during the week which I watched.
And you know, I see Derek Daniels head his new
gramsail and you have a stroll through those the prices,
he'll be well pleased he's done gone down that road.
So yeah, they looks like there's a bit of a

(37:23):
bit of a following at the start with you. Always
there is when there's a bit of a change and
people want you want the same product, probably for less
less work, and that's that's what. Yeah, all as the
farmers as we get older.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
Stue Duncan our Highland is going to win tonight over
Mowana Pacifica. Who have the Crusaders got stew really quickly,
I'm running out of time.

Speaker 5 (37:43):
They're definitely going to win. They've got the boy.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
Oh okay, there we go. The Crusaders will definitely have
a one. Hey, thanks for your time, guys, and I
do hope seriously for the you other farmers around the country.
It is getting desperately dry, you make no bones about it.
So I do hope that and the next week or
so we get a bit of a change in the
weather pattern and we get you some rain. Have a
great weekend, go the Highlanders. We'll catch you back on Monday.

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