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March 5, 2025 • 38 mins

Jamie Mackay talks to Todd McClay, Kate Acland, Chris Russell, Steve Hollander, and Warwick Catto.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's the Country
podcast with Jamie McKay thanks to Brent starkest of the
leading agriculture brands.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
One one Nobody to get me on.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Get A New Zealand and Welcome to the Country. It's
brought to you by Brant Harry Styles apparently ran the
Tokyo Marathon in three hours twenty four. Who would have
thought I were going to kick off the show today
by making the first of two visits to Mount somers
and Mid Canterbury Beautiful Farming area. Todd McLay, the Minister

(00:56):
of Agriculture and Trade, has just arrived ahead of the
Beef and Lamb New Zealand's mid season update launch, so
we'll get that from Kate Ackland as well. So Todd
and Kate at Mount Summers. Chris Russell's our Rossie correspondent.
They're waiting with baited breath to see what happens with

(01:17):
tropical cyclone Alfred. I was talking to Shane mcmanaway this morning,
who's over there for his Impact summit next week the
Zander McDonald Awards, of course, and yeah, he's really really
worried about what's going to happen on the Gold Coast.
Steve Hollander, the founder of the Rural Games, gets underway

(01:38):
in Palmerston North tomorrow Saturday and Sunday, and the Square
there of course the Rural Sports Awards tomorrow night at
the AWAPNI Function Center and Warwick Kadow former Young Farmer
of the Year way back in nineteen ninety five. These
days Balances Science Strategy Manager some tips for farmers coming

(01:58):
out of a drought. As long as you come out
of one, I guess, and those Balanced Farm Environment Regional
Awards kickoff the night in Canterbury and I think he's
on the West Coast making his way down through Heart
when they open the road up to head to the
Wanaka or Uppercluther Show, which gets underway tomorrow, one of
the best a MP shows in the land. But up

(02:20):
next to kick off the country it's Minister of Agriculture
and Trade, Todd McLay. Tod McLay is the Minister of

(02:41):
Agriculture and Trade. We're going to hear from Kate Ackland,
shortly from Beef and Lamb New Zealand as they release
their mid season update. We'll keep Kate's power to dry
on that one. But Todd I want to talk to
you about trade. Gee, who would want to be a
Minister of trade at the moment.

Speaker 4 (02:58):
Well as his elementister of trade. There's always exciting times
because there's always something going on. But yes, the news
of the last few days, Jamie around the US and
Canada and Mexico and China and these tariff war escalating,
but probably much more concerning for not just New Zealand
but the world. You know, the social media from the

(03:19):
President the other night is telling US food producers to
get ready, to be ready rich and produce lots of food.
Not so good for the others. That's worrying for New Zealand,
but you know what of it is very destabilizing you
for world markets. We're seeing it in stock prices.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
If he puts tariff on or tariffs on all agricultural inputs,
obviously it affects US badly as a trading nation, but
it also makes food more expensive. For instance, in America,
how will that go down with the billy bobs in
the Midwest who voted Trump.

Speaker 4 (03:51):
Well, that's the most important point. Actually, their hamburgers will
become more expensive. So it's a very big beef market
for US. I quality beef going up there. But actually
a lot of our beef fat and tallow. They mix
it with their beef and it goes into hamburger chains
and they depend upon it, and they choose the New

(04:11):
Zealand beef because it adds flavor that others known. If
hamburgers go up in price, I've been there, Jamie. Well,
if it's a bit of a staple, it will be
inflation rate what we're going to see. And I've had
a chance this week to talk to the EU Trade
Commission and the Canadian Trade Minister, and starting to talk
to a few others. They are putting tariffs on in place.

(04:31):
I've already known some of them. They'll be very, very
targeted from Canada and they look at areas where it
hurts the most. And as their minister said to me,
you know, they import about sixty billion dollars worth from
a number of states that manufacture, as an example, washing machines.
What are tarifle mean they don't come anymore? Some of
those factories will close and so you know, the announcement

(04:53):
around agricultural trade is extremely concerning. I've got my officials
in Washington engaging now to find out one what's going
on or what might happen, and to continue to make
the case of how well balanced we are in as
far as trade buying sell more or less the same
amounts that the US exports. New Zealand's face much lower
tariff rates across the board generally than ours do on

(05:16):
the other side, because we're a low tariff regime. And
if you're going to do this to your friends, what
does it say to the rest of the world.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Exactly, our two way trade with the US is roughly equal,
so you know, we're different than a lot of other
countries he's attacking.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
That's right. So there's no medication that he's singingly out
or focused on New Zealand, but there is you know,
harm done to us. So Fisher and pipel is an example,
have a manufacturing plant in Mexico selling into the US
and are hit by the twenty five percent tariff. Now
straight away, that's hurtful, harmful to them, But ultimately what

(05:56):
happens is you put all these tariffs on. You know,
you're not less competitive in that market because it's on everybody,
but it is harder to sell our product there. However,
here's the most interesting thing. We are very trade diverse
We have a very wide network of FTAs around the world,
and if you think about China as an example, in

(06:17):
the moment, the market is soft for red meat and
dairy and a few other things for us. But you
know they put a terrify on usbef. What's the important
It won't go and it'll be too expensive. Those restaurants
still need beef and lamb, and the supermarket shall still
need product there to sell to Chinese consumers. They will
pivot and come to countries like New Zealand, so there

(06:38):
will be opportunities for us to sell more around the world.
The EUFTA is not even into force a year yet
we've seen i think remember almost a thirty percent increase
in experts from New Zealand and the EU sheep meat
has been a big part of that. So we will
still do well. However, restrictions of trade and tariffs on
New Zealand products are going into the US is concerning

(06:59):
and it will harm.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Todd McLay, Minister of Agriculture and Trade. Good luck with
Trump and enjoy your day at Mount Summers.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
Thanks Jamie, looking forward to it, and I'm looking forward
to some very very good news for our sheep and
beef farmers from Kate shortly. It's going to be a
good day for.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
Them, I think indeed, and we're going to go to
Kate Ackland straight after the break. Yes, it's the release
of Beef and Lamb. New Zealand's mid season updates. Some
good numbers, some really good numbers around beef and lamb.
Before the end of the hour, our Ossie correspondents Chris Russell,
this tropical cyclone Alfred. The news is getting worse. It's

(07:38):
sort of stored and it may last longer than they thought.
Steve Holland of the Rural games are on this weekend
than Parmi North Rural Sports Awards tomorrow night. I think
Sir Wayne Smith's one of the guest speakers. Tim Southey,
I think Tim's a dairy farmer when he's not playing
cricket and Warick Caado from Balance former Young Farmer of
the Year. Those Balance Farm Environment Awards kicking off for

(08:01):
the Canterbury Regional Finals tonight. I assume they're in christ Church, Warwick.
Will no doubt correct me if I'm wrong. Kate Ackland
up next.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Nobody get me on the lad.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
You're so golden, Yes, Harry Styles three twenty four for
the Tokyo Marathon. This is one of my favorite Harry
Styles songs. I've never heard of it before. It's called
Golden Is it Golden Times for the sheep and beef industry?

(08:51):
Because today at Mount Summers you've already heard from Minister
of Agriculture and Trade Todd maclay, but the chair of
Beef and Lamb New Zealand is hosting the event. Vents
the event? Should I say? It's the launch of the
mid season update, Kate Eckland. Good afternoon, Welcome to the country,
and you're putting on a bit of a shin dig
on the farm, are you hi, Jamie?

Speaker 5 (09:12):
Look, thanks for having me. I don't know if i'd
call it a shin but I've got a roast in
the oven and I've got the Minister for lunch, which
will be fantastic, really really great that they're joining us
for this.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
You've got the Minister for lunch. I hope he tastes
all right, let's talk about I'm sure beef and Lamb
Kate is on the menu for lunch. It goes without saying,
but throw talk to me about some of these numbers
because they're vastly improved on this time a year ago.

Speaker 5 (09:36):
Well, look, it is a really fantastic good news story.
We are forecasting an increase of one point two billion
dollars increase on esport receipts to ten point two billion
for the current season, and that's despite lower export bollions
from last year, so it's really good news. We've seen
farm profitability almost double from last season, so that's really

(09:56):
just helping to build that on farm confidence.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
Now. Average farm profit for twenty four twenty five season
is forecast at one hundred and six thousand, five hundred dollars.
And while that sounds pretty good from that, you've got
to pay obviously for your drawings, your tax, your capital
expendit show, and you've got to make principal repayment as well,
So there's not much left at the end of the day.

(10:21):
And I don't want to sound wingy and mony about it,
but when you've got several million dollars invested in a
business or an operation, you need returns better than that.
And I note that even at that level, it's still
below the five year average for profitability.

Speaker 5 (10:38):
Looks you're right, and costs to remain a real concern.
You know, while we've seen that improvement revenue, we've got
fun and costs have gone up to thirty three percent
in the last four years. But I think the reason
that we really wanted to make a celebration of this
is that actually it is a real turnaround and it's
a really positive story, positive direction to be heading in.
And you know, it's good for all of New Zealand.

(11:00):
We know that when agriculture does well, all of New
Zealand does well.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
Absolutely well. Let's crunch some of these numbers. Lamb prices
are forecast to reach one hundred and fifty five dollars
per head, up twenty percent from last season and importantly
nine percent above the five year average. Mutton, which used
to be really good and then crashed, has made a
big comeback ninety dollars per head, seventy percent increase on
last season. And we all know, of course cattle prices

(11:26):
are at record levels.

Speaker 5 (11:29):
Yeah they are. And I think what we've seen with
the lamb, we've seen the process has really worked to
diversely and shift the product into higher value markets. So
they've seen in the last twelve months a really big
increase in sales into the UK, into Europe into the
US and even in Canada. Mutton is a bit trickier
because obviously that is very centered on China and China
still having some pretty tough economic times and on the

(11:51):
beef one. I mean, the US is their heads at
record lows, so really really highfully is coming out of
the US market.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
They still need our beef. Let's go and when we've
spoken to Todd mclay's so we won't go down the
track ourselves. They still need our beef. It's going to
be really interesting to see what happens. Terrified, Kate and
we all are waiting with bated breath, not knowing what
to expect on April too.

Speaker 5 (12:16):
Look, absolutely there's a lot of uncertainty out there, and
we do know that, you know, uncertainty will create the
volatility in the market. But it's certainly something we'll be
talking through with the Minister at lunch to that.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
Well, you enjoy your lunch with the Minister of Agriculture
and Trade. Is he going to do a farm tour.

Speaker 5 (12:31):
If he's got time. There's plenty happening on the farm
today with sharing where we're spraying gorse with the spray drone.
So for plenty to get out and see.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
So do you who does the spray drone spraying? Do
you get a contractor r in or have you got
a drone yourself?

Speaker 5 (12:45):
No, there's a local guy here near Methan who's set
up and he's doing a fantastic job.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
Yeah, that's the great way to spray gorse and far
away gullies and inaccessible places.

Speaker 5 (12:56):
Oh, it's sure that I don't know if we'll ever
have the chopper back.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
Be a lot cheaper too. I'd imagine what is the
season like in at Mount Summer's There you're under the
foothills of the Alps. There, you reasonably some are safe
for my safe in saying that, yes.

Speaker 5 (13:13):
We're in a bit of a rainband and we're she
having a great summer, particularly after last year was a
bit dry and challenging. But you know, really thinking about
the rest of the country there with a lot of
people who aren't as lucky as us this year.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
Yeah, I'm looking at the knee wear Drought Index map Kate,
and honestly Canterbury's looking as Canterbury's probably better off than
anywhere else in the country.

Speaker 5 (13:33):
Yes, yes, it's been. It has been a great summer.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
Yeah, unless, of course you're I shouldn't say, unless of
course you're an arable, a cropping farmer or a seed farmer.
It hasn't been too good for them. Tough times for
those guys. All right, we'll let you go and go
and have lunch with Minister of Agriculture and Trade Todd McLay.

Speaker 5 (13:52):
Great, thanks Jermy, nice to talk.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
There we go, Kate Ackland, sheare of beef and lamb
New Zealand. That is a good news story, isn't it
the mid season update? And it'll be on our website
The Country dot co dot nz. Actually, before I forgets,
Michelle will be in here shortly Worth Rural News. I
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(14:16):
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(14:37):
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(14:59):
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Up next, we're going to move them up the batting
order today because it's the big story from across the
Ditch and that is tropical Cyclone Alfred. It's about to hit.
They're very, very worried in Australia, especially around the Gold Coast.

(15:22):
Chris Russell is up next. This is a bit of
a non event of a song. Am I being too
tough on Harry?

Speaker 6 (15:28):
Maybe I am feeling down?

Speaker 3 (15:44):
He's our Rossie correspondent, Chris Russell, based out of Sydney. Chris,
you'll be glad you're not on the Gold Coast as
tropical Cyclone Alfred looms. How bad is this going to be?

Speaker 7 (15:55):
Yeah, well it's an unknown really, I mean, it's as
bad as it gets. According to the authorities tree disasters
in one really got rain, wind and tied. And of
course the problem is that northern New South Wales hasn't
seen a cyclone reach. It's since Cyclone Nancy in nineteen
ninety and the buildings and even the trees have an

(16:15):
evolved for those sort of winds, so the potential for
destruction is greater. Even the North Queensland, where everything is
designed in the expectation of having those sort of winds.
We're already seeing ten meter seas here down off Palm
Beach in Sydney. I mean, that's stuff my father used
to talk about sailing around Cape Horn in sailing ships

(16:35):
and the seas are massive, and of course that then
brings more erosion for the beaches up there in the Tweed.
They're looking at eight hundred millimeters of rain over four
days and they're saying there's a possibility it may actually
increase from category two to category three. It's actually slowed
down a bit now, Jamie, because of a system that's

(16:56):
developed over South Australian Victoria, which is kind of active
like a buffer and slowing it down, so it's only
doing about seven knots as it's traveling across the seas.
I may not even hit the Gold Coast until Saturday,
but when it does, there's ten thousand homes likely to
be threatened by floods. They're talking about evacuation potential of

(17:18):
millions of people that they may have recommended evacuate out
of the area. I don't think anyone's quite sure how
they're going to handle it in someway like Brisbane, so
it's it's all unknown territory really here, Jamie.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
And a real issue around insurance, all the lack.

Speaker 7 (17:35):
Of Well, that's right, and of course I suppose I'm
not unexpectedly with the disasters that we've seen around the world.
About eighty three percent in a recent survey of people
believe they're either uninsured or underinsured because they just frankly
can't afford the premiums the forty percent increase they've seen
in recent years. It's just not affordable. So what that

(17:57):
means is, of course that government is going to have
to pick up the tab. The inequity here is those
that ensure themselves. They're on their own. People who don't
while the government looks after you, And of course people
have come to rely on that rather than pay those
massive premiums. So we've got to follow up with that after.
Let's get through it first, though, Jamie.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
What's the talk in Australia about Trump and his agg
tariffs where we're all waiting with bated breath to see
if this is bluster or whether it's going to happen.

Speaker 7 (18:27):
Yes, well, I mean it seems listening to his speech yesterday,
which I listened to the longest speech I think in
the history of the US between the President of the Congress,
and he was sitting there celebrating the fact that US
farmers are going to no longer be faced with cheap
imports and they're going to be great again, and cheering
from the Republican side.

Speaker 4 (18:49):
Of the House.

Speaker 7 (18:50):
No mention of Australia in any of those tariff feelings.
And of course our argument is that this US enjoys
are trade surplus with US, and therefore you know it
shouldn't be affected. There's also a mashive demand for our
grinding meat for their hamburgers, which they just don't have enough.
They just don't produce enough in America for that. So

(19:10):
and of course we're an orcus ally, so who knows
whether it will actually be applied to us. But the
way he was talking yesterday, his first priority is going
to be protecting the US farmers. One of the fire
groups of farmers in there have been very vocal has
been the lamb farmers. Now, of course Australia and New Zealand,
predominantly Australia created the markup for lamb. When I lived

(19:32):
in America in the seventies, nobody at lamb. He couldn't
buy a lamb in a butcher shop. But now, of
course it's popular and the American farmers are saying they
can't compete with Australian New Zealand lamb and they've asked
for protection for that. So that'll be one thing we're
watching very closely.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
They want to finish on Rawlina's station. We talked about
this a couple of weeks ago. This is the sheep
station with one hundred and sixty stands shearing shed. Unbelievable.
I think over two levels sold to Australia's largest cattle producer.
Is the sharing sheared going to be redundant? Chris Well, No.

Speaker 7 (20:07):
That's an interesting story that it's actually owned in England,
but it's called Consolidated Pastoral Company but they are the
largest cattle producers in Australia and everything they do at
the moment is cattle and goats. However, they have bought
this and according to Troy Setter, who I know, who's
the CEO of Consolidated Partial, he says that their intention

(20:28):
is to get back into sheep. They have a great
belief in the future of the wall industry. It's already
got thirty thousand sheep on the property, which is roughly
a million hectares the property. It is a fair sized
sort of a place and his intention is not to
convert it into cattle, but to actually increase the number
of sheep. And it's already also got forty five thousand

(20:51):
goats on the property, so that's also attractive to them.
They haven't said how much they paid for it, but
I think it was going to be a substantial sun
A one sage mining magnet Twiggy Forest was issued in
buying it, but he pulled out, as I reported, I
think a couple of months to you guys, and now
it's been wrapped up and we'll see what happens. But

(21:11):
it's certainly a solid future for them because Consolidated Pastor
is a good solid company, Jamie.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
Chris Russell, thanks for your time batting down the hatch
is good luck with tropical cyclone Alfred, no worries, thanks Chris.
And we might try and catch up with Shane mcmanaway
who's over there at the moment. Maybe on tomorrow's show
when it really does it? Okay, up next, that's the
latest and rural news and sports news before the end
of the hour. Steve Hollander. The Rural Games and Sports

(21:40):
Awards are on in Parmi North over the next three days.
And Warwick Kaddow from balanced Agrin Nutrients. I think he's
making his way to the one or Uppercluther Amp Show,
one of the best amp shows in the country that
gets under way tomorrow.

Speaker 8 (22:00):
Ah this Lean Target.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
Welcome back to the country. Another one of my favorite
one direction songs, Michelle. I only know one one direction
song and that is what makes you Beautiful but young.
When I say young, everything's relative. Lizzie Solly, Farmer's daughter
from ward in North Canterbury or is it Southern Marlborough,
She yelled out across the office. You've got to play

(22:34):
history and you you don't even know any one direction
songs either, nor Harry Styles songs.

Speaker 9 (22:41):
Not really. I think it's because I am a bogan and.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
B I'm too you're a bogan. I think actually you're
a bit of a nana. Do you mind me saying that,
which is rich coming from it, because I did say
to you during the head break, did you stay up
and watch the cricket last night? And I was watching
Williamson and Ravendra going great guns? How good's that final
going to be against India? And you said no, it
was past your bedtime, which is nine thirty. A good job.

(23:08):
You're a good runner. Now, Harry Styles ran the Tokyo
marathon and three hours twenty four. You're you're a good runner.
What's your fastest marathon time?

Speaker 9 (23:17):
Three point thirty one?

Speaker 3 (23:19):
Well that really annoys me because it's faster than mine.
So we'll finish that conversation right here. And now here's
Rural News.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
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co dot nzaid for your local stygist.

Speaker 9 (23:36):
The New Zealand National Field Day Society has appointed Richard
Lindrew's as the top job vacated by Peena Nation in
December last year. Joining the Society was over twenty years
experience in sport, event management and event ownership. Lyndreuz is
not one to shy away from the task set to
him by the Society board. Lyndruze will commence his new
role on the seventh of April this year, three months

(23:57):
ahead of the fifty seventh Field Days which are going
to be howd e limits to the fourteenth of June
at Mystery Creek.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
While he's got big shoes to fill the late great
He's not dead. He's still with us. He's still alive
and kicking. Eta Nation has done a wonderful job as
Chief Executive of Field Days. I'm sure he won't mind
me saying that. So good luck to the new bloke.
Look forward to meeting him at Hamilton the Shre and
for Field Days. Looking forward to it. He's sport.

Speaker 4 (24:24):
Sport with AFCO.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
Visit them online at AFCO dot Co dot NZED.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
Tom Bruce, unbeaten on two hundred and sixty two, is
marching on with the bat for Central Districts on the
second day of their Plunket Shield cricket match against hosts
Auckland at the Eden Park Alta Oval. The Stags are
five hundred and fourteen for four gee telephone numbers. Springbok
coach Rassi Erasmus has suggested the Rugby Championship should be

(24:52):
moved to the same window as the Six Nations between
February and March. Interesting and Lulu Sun has won the
opening match against world number thirty seven Rebecca somebody at
the Indian Wells tennis tournament. There you go. If you
don't know how to pronounce it, Michelle, just skip it.
She's world number thirty seven. I've never heard of her before.

(25:14):
Doesn't mean she's not a great player. Up next, talking
about sport, the Rural Games are on and Pamei North
this weekend, and of course those Rural Sports Awards happening
at the Awa Perni Function Center tomorrow night. That's going
to be all glitz and glamor. Steve Holland is up next,
and glitz and glamour aren't really words that are normally
associated with Steve, but he runs a good event. That's next.

(25:43):
It's all going to be happening in Palmerston North from
tomorrow and up and over the weekend. Yes, it is
the Ford Ranger New Zealand Rural Games plus the Rural
Sports Awards as well. In fact, we might start with those, Steve,
the Rural Sports Awards. You have got a galaxy of
is there. I think Wayne Smith, Tim Salvey just to

(26:03):
name a couple.

Speaker 10 (26:04):
Yeah, that's brilliant. We're really looking forward to tomorrow. I
can't believe it's onny A Daiway Jamie, but were it
finally met Sir Wayne Smith here to present the subrim
Mhaw Memorial Trophy. And of course Tim Saudi just retired.
He's coming to be interviewed and presenting the BDS New
Zealand Rural Sportsman of the Year. And we've got Erica

(26:27):
Dawson here from Sailing New Zealand, the medalists from the
Paris Olympics, along with Dylan Schmidt the trampolinists who are
both going to be also at the awards dinner.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
A couple of well known sharers are there as well,
Sir David Fagan, who we've already chatted to in recent
times here on the country, and world champion sharer Roland Smith.
He missed out at the Golden Shares, but I wouldn't
discount him for those world Champs next year, Steve.

Speaker 10 (26:53):
Oh yeah, look, the Sunday final of the speed sharing
is going to be very exciting. Of course the newly
ty Henderson is going to be with us, but yeah,
Roland is coming back for a one last crack at
having a go for the whole year in competition. I'm
sure he's going to be competitive, Steve.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
I was talking to Ferg earlier in the week. Of course,
an icon has been there since day one, since we
kicked off the Rural Games way back in Queenstown, and
I remember meeting you for the first time and you said, right,
you're over there in the corner of the Queenstown Recreation Grounds.
You've got to commentate the tree climbing and I thought, well,
what a bore that'll be.

Speaker 9 (27:33):
Gee.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
I grew to love that sport. It's much more than
tree climbing. It's arboruss who are magnificent athletes.

Speaker 10 (27:41):
Look, the Guardian Tree Speed tree Climbing is just an
amazing event and this year it's going to be made
even more special with Steph Drive out there, who is
just different having a wonderful year, the president world champion
both men's and women's joining together in a pairs event
which is going to be regional from round New Zealand
in that event on Sunday morning, So talk us.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
Through tomorrow onwards. Because Clash of the Colleges is happening
in the Square in Palmerston North tomorrow that sort of
kicks it off.

Speaker 10 (28:09):
Yeah, the youth programs are the main event for Friday.
With the fashion of the Colleges and the Agri Futures
which is your pathway to secondary school kids and do
agri jobs. That's going to be great. There's about seventy
odd schools from coming from throughout the Lower North Island
and of course we've got the Steel Timbersport Rookies and
women's events on Tomorrow, so there'll be the highlights for Friday.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
And then into Saturday and Sunday. We're into all those
rural sports you've mentioned, the speed sharing, you've mentioned the
tree climbing ferg of course he loves the Highland Heavies.
That's the Highland Games. That's always a crowd favorite and
my particular favorite, and I wish I was there to
commentate it again this year.

Speaker 10 (28:49):
The dog trials, Yeah, Doctor PTS Dog Trials are on Saturday,
the middle of the day it's a really good time
to have that event on. It's absolutely going to be
chopper in the ground future post Speed Sencings starts the
day off on Saturday morning, which is also going to
be a very very popular event, and of course Scare
up New Zealand Booth Troying Championships are on on Saturday too,

(29:11):
which you've commentated before, Jamie. And then Sunday morning, of
course the very very popular batters Cole Shoveling event, the
New Zealand Speed Cole Shoveling and we get a whole
bunch of MPs that are turning up to challenge each
other on Sunday morning. That's going to be very exciting.
Todd McClay will be there, Mark Pattison. I'm not sure

(29:32):
if they're competing against each other, but they may even
form together into a formidable pears accommodation.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
And we've already heard from Todd McClay on today's right,
I'm going to put it on your Steve Islander. You're
the founder and the trustee of the Rural Games and
the Rural Sports Awards tests celebrating ten years this year
since we kicked it off in Queenstown. What's your favorite event.
Come on and don't sit on the fence.

Speaker 10 (29:54):
Oh the Steve Holander eggs, Roy and Cat.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
Steve, I reckon what you should do there. You should
stand down and let everyone throw eggs at you. I
think that would be very popular.

Speaker 10 (30:05):
I'd be very happy to that, Jamie, if you join me.
I generally spend most of the time on the sideline
biffing eggs over into the into the field, just to
keep everybody on their toes.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
Yeah, good on you, mate, Hey, congratulations. Without you, this
wouldn't happen. It's all happening in the Parmis North Square
from tomorrow, Saturday and Sunday. It's the Ford New Zealand
Rural Sports Awards and of course the Rural Games got
to go. Steve.

Speaker 10 (30:29):
Good luck, big, big, big thank you to you, Jamie
and all of the timid ends he met. He did
have promoted the game so well for us over the years.
Very exciting few days ahead of it.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
Good on you, Steve, it is twelve away from one.
You're with the country. Did Steve neglect to mention any
of his sponsors. I don't think he did. He did
a very good job of getting them all in there. Oh,
he's hard to control. That lad someone else who's maybe
hard to control. Because this is just breaking news, folks.
Foreign Minister wins and I'm not saying Winston's hard to

(31:01):
control what he is has moved quickly to sack Phil
Goff as High Commissioner to the UK after GoF took
a jab at US President Donald Trump. Just hours after
being made aware of Goff's critical comment, Peters had declared
that he was no longer fit to be New Zealand's

(31:22):
representative to the UK. That's one of the plum jobs.
Of course, London, you get to live it up. Phil
Goff's gone. He's a labor appointment obviously, so rest assured
some gnat that they want to put out the pasture.
We'll be off to London very shortly. Breaking news for you.
Phil Goff is gone, right And also remember to go

(31:43):
to our website Thecountry dot co dot nz if you
want to go to the heart New Zealand and your conference.
It's happening in Wellington this August. And Horticulture New Zealand
is a must attend event for growers, industry leaders, policymakers,
research and you can connect, sheer knowledge and drive the

(32:03):
future of New Zealand horticulture and it's a very bright one. Indeed,
this year's themed, by the way, is celebrating horticulture at People,
Produce and Potential. I wonder who thought of that? Someone
in the marketing department up next from the science department
at Balance Agrinutrients. Warwick Kaddow, former New Zealand Young Farmer
of the Area's on the west coast making his way

(32:25):
or trying to make his way south through Heart to
Wanaka for the Upper Klouther Amp show which is on tomorrow.

Speaker 6 (32:43):
For the hands when you walk through the RGA.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
That is eight away from one wrapping the show with
a big one direction. Fan Warwick Kadow, former New Zealand
Young Farmer of the Year way back in nineteen ninety five,
pips at the post though by his brother twin brother Grant,
who won the title in nineteen ninety two, the only
twins to have ever won the Young Farmer of the

(33:17):
Year title. Mind you, we've got a brother and sister
as well, obviously, Warick and Emma Paul and Tim Danjin.
I don't think the twins thing's likely to be repeated though,
Is it.

Speaker 11 (33:29):
Ven just one of us that won it twice of course,
but you were not that clever.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
No, but well I used to have trouble. I used
to have trouble telling you apart. Do you realize that
when I was putting my run sheet together for the show,
I can't even remember what I had for breakfast this morning.
It's like old age, but I remembered your mobile phone
number by memory from like thirty years ago when I
used to ring you up weekly on the Farming Show.

(33:55):
Those were the days, Warwick.

Speaker 11 (33:57):
It was the day. Yeah and yeah, thing's changed since then.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
Well and truly, well we wouldn't get away with what
we got away with thirty years ago. But anyhow, let's
go to the present now the Balance Farm Environment Awards.
You're one of the judges, along with the wonderful Jamie Strang.
The regional awards are getting underway tonight and Canterbury. I'm
surprised you're not going to be there.

Speaker 11 (34:20):
Yes, well, I've got a head commitments. I've just been
visiting some farmers on the West Coast and I've got
the one of Kashow the next couple of days, so
that was really grabbed me there. But because I'm a
national judge, I tend to avoid the regional awards thing,
so there's never any temptation to be seen has been.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
There beneath you? You only turned up to the big gig.

Speaker 11 (34:44):
Oh well, I do you enjoy them? It will be
a great event in Canterbury. There's a strong, strong number
of entrants there and of course Hamish and Simon gild
One air Gordon Stevenson Trophy last year from the Canterbury
region from High Peak Station. So and I've been a
fantastic ambassadors for.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
The Wanaka Show or Upper Klouther amp Show to give
it its correct title. Is one of the biggest a
MP shows obviously, well Canterbury used to be the biggest.
I think maybe Wanic or Upperclouth is the biggest one now,
is it.

Speaker 11 (35:14):
I would think nationally outside the sort of Southern field
days in central Northern field days, yeah, I'd be one
of the biggests. I haven't been to the Hawk's Bay.
I'm not sure what that's like, but certainly in the
South Island it's burg and very popular and at at
the time of the year, you know, it's ideal. People
know what their financial circumstances are like, They've got three

(35:34):
of time and it's a great location to go to too.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
Now I got an email from some marketing department somewhere
in Auckland and I normally ignore them, but your name
was on it, so I read the press release and
it was about you, a balance aggrenutrient science strategy manager
offering a bit of advice for farmers when this drought
does break, and like, just give it to me in
one minute Warwick or less.

Speaker 11 (35:58):
Yeah, Well, when that rain comes and some of us
have had a nice rain in the last twenty four hours,
don't rush to put nigen on. There's generally sufficient nigegen
in the soil. You've got a couple of weeks to
do it. It's off on the second rain where you'll
get your best response. So don't worry about I must
get it on now, You've be patient. You've got a

(36:20):
bit of time to get that nigegen on and build
those autumn covers.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
Hey it traditionally autumn is the time when you put
on your maintenance fertilize your super phosphate on. That is
it a waste of time putting it on to dry pastures? Now?
How long does it last? Or I mean we'll eventually
rain and just soak in.

Speaker 11 (36:39):
Anyhow, Yes, it will eventually eventually soak in, so it's fine.
Just make sure there's no residues on the leaf for
animal intake. And I guess one of the things with
the positive news and we're starting to see it and
our supply and our sales is with red meat being
a bit more bullish. I guess air message to farmers

(37:02):
as it could be a strong season for a company
and making sure that you don't leave it till the
end of the season because it may be difficult for
it to get on the ground.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
And so yeah, and there's a lot of catch up
to be done around the country, especially on sheep and
beef farms. I've got like thirty seconds left Warwick Kadow
nineteen ninety five Young Farmer of the Year. If you
had one piece of advice for these would be contestants
or would be winners of the FMG Young Farmer of
the Year Grand Final or contest, what would it be?

Speaker 11 (37:36):
You have twelve months in which to grow your brand
and take that opportunity.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
Yeah, and it's well, it's the cloak of knowledge, but
it's a cloak of honor. It's something that sticks with
you for the rest of your life.

Speaker 11 (37:49):
Yeah, and use it, use it. It's part of career development.
So yeah, it's a great opportunity.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
All right, there we go, Warrant caddow out of a
balanced a grenutrance. That's us done and us we're going
to be back tomorrow I think from the Wanaka show,
not me personally, but John Roach. And also we might
try and catch up with Shane mcmanaway and Australia.

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