March 12, 2025 • 36 mins
Jamie Mackay talks to Winston Peters, Professor Keith Woodford, Michelle Sands, Chris Russell, and Andrew "Elvis" Jennings.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
That's ready to burn.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
So we'll get those stay gigs of a pier. There's
a busand bird who women who we're not there. They're
all living the double make care and I am just
a devil with no spear.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Cata, New Zealand. Welcome to the Country. I'm Jamie mackay.
The show is brought to you by Brant Alvis theme
today because, believe it or not, a week bit later
in the hour, we've got Alvis on the show or
keep the powder dry there, but we're going to kick it.
Is he the kick it off with? Is he the
Elvis Presley of New Zealand politics, Winston Peters. I don't
know about Viva Las Vegas, but he's off to Washington tonight.
(00:56):
He is meeting with their Secretary of State Marco Rubio,
who's just broken hopefully some sort of peace deal for
Russia and Ukraine in the Middle East. Professor Keith Woodford
will join us on the show today. One of the
sharpest mines in New Zealand Agriculture wants Fonterra to offer
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Kiwi's a bite of the dairy cherry when it comes
to floating an ipo for floating an ipo, should I
say of its consumer brand's business which is going to sell?
Michelle Sands joins us from horticulture in New Zealand and
New Dam and Hawk's Bay can't beat that. And Chris
Russell our Ossie correspondent, Tropical cyclone, Alfred Trump and tariffs
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and Dylan Brown fourteen million dollars for ten years. Not
bad money if you can get it. But Winston Peters
to kick off the country nextav he is the Deputy
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Prime Minister, New Zealand First Leader and Foreign Affairs Minister.
He's off to Washington later tonight to meet with Secretary
of State Marco Rubio. Lots to talk about. Are you
going to cut some sort of deal with the Winston Peters.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Look, I think it's very wise when you're going to
see another country that you do them the courtesy of
making your message to them first before you tell everybody
else what are you going to talk about? So I'm
very very courseus to stay in our lane, so to speak.
To put New Zealand's case. And to above all here
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the mouth listen to their side of the story, so
to speak.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Well, it's going to be about tariffs and the geopolitical
tension in the Pacific. Do you think an Australia's failed
that you might be able to on the world stage
cut a deal with America around tariff's, especially when it
comes to agriculture, because as it stands at the moment,
as I understand it, April, can we face tariffs on
agriculture again?
Speaker 4 (03:04):
This is something we're going to find out. We're going
to have a discussion about it. Remember that until twenty
twenty four, our balance of trade was pretty even, so
we were not, as I say, using the Americans, and
we've been a free trade country since the mid eighties,
and so we've got a good record to tell. And
also we already had tariffs on aluminum and steel. Our
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job is to see what better we can get out
of it, and let's see how the talks developed. But
I'm not going in any other sense for them to
ensure that there's an understanding of how important this country
of New Zeum, of New Zeum is to them and
to the Pacific.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Have you had a phone call already. Have you met
Marco Rubio?
Speaker 5 (03:48):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (03:49):
I spoke to him very shortly after we got the job.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yes, will you get to run unto Trump while you're
in Washington at the White House.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
We don't make comments like that that. We'd rather report
you what does happened, rather than to build up whole
of expectations and then fail people when we get there.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Now, talking about Trump, are you doing a bit of
a Trump around DEI Diversity, equity and inclusion, ridding the
public sector of woke left wing social engineering and diversity targets.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Well, that's the kind of name thing that the mainstream
media have said, knowing full well that we campaigned extensively,
packing halls all the way through twenty twenty three in
that campaign, a long time before the American presidential elections,
and to say that we're imitating Trump is just nonsense.
And the records all out there, and we've been doing
this for a long time in the campaign, all the
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way to the Cordison Agreement where we said we want
things change. Now, what you've got here is quotas plans,
and I said exercises in employment, we should discriminatory against
people because if they don't build their so called category
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minority as it might be, then they don't get the job.
And it's happening. I have been told by the mainstream
media we haven't got any examples. Well, on our x account,
on our Facebook account, we're going past one hundred thousand people,
many of whom are complaining exactly of what we're talking
about and saying, yeah, I know, mister Peters, that's what
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happened to me. And so I'm saying to the mainstream media,
stopping incredibly biased, start paying attention to what the ordinary
people out there are saying. Because they want a pair world,
a fair go at the chance of employment, and they
don't want discrimination that is designed by a hand picked
small group of self appointed social engineers.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Now that's how simple, all right. A lot of the
people and circles that I move in, which is mainly
sort of farming, rugby golf circles, that may not be
a good cross section society. Winston say, I'm going to
vote for New Zealand first. Winston and Shane. I like
what they're saying. Why is that not being reflected in
the polls? On the last poll? And I know you're
going to say buger. The polls five point one percent,
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you barely passed the threshold.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Look, I am not both saying, but I've got away
in political science and I've got a long career in
politics and been written off so many times by a
whole lot of people. You know what was big in
that poll, which defied what you just said as preferred
prime minisiles on eight point six. Now, eight point six
is not going to be a lesser sum of people
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won in New Zealand first. It'll be eight point six
plus who want New Zealand first. And so there is
the real part of the poll which these mainstream media
people again, whether it's that of egnants or purpose totally neglect,
But anyone who understands politics and understands the poles are
looking at the plus and minus for personalities and we
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were just minus one that dramatic turnaround and eight point
six and on the rise as preferred by miss Now
I'm not saying that other than to tell you that's
the part of the poll that screamed out that their
interpretation of it was utterly wrong.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Just to finish on, you came from a humble background
in Northland, and I know you speak very highly of
your late mother. Did your mother ever have any difficulty
giving you school lunch?
Speaker 4 (07:29):
No she didn't, and we were from a poor family,
but we always got some lunch, and often there would
be six separate lunches in the one bag and one person,
the senior person was put in charge of it. Now,
that's what said has happened here. I know a lot
of teachers, a lot of teachers very very closely, and
they've talked about the incredible waste of the former regime
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and it was incredible. Now we could and should do
far more focus planning than that. Let me tell you
what was like in my school, largely Mari school, but
the farming community provided a lot of the food and
vegetables and what have you. The boys were charged with
all the preparation, working under the supervision of the senior girls,
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and the girls made this to anybody wanted some munch
could get it. Now, that's the difference between now and
back then, when we all were self reliant and doing
it ourselves well.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
You were truly a diverse and inclusive and equitable school
back in those days, Winston DEI, back at your primary
school days in Northland, No, we.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Didn't do dei, we're not talking about diversity, equity, inclusiveness,
and then have a master plan that comes out of
the sort of George orwell, now, we talked about giving
people a chance to get decent health, to have a
good diet, and to get a decent education, and to
take us as far as our dreams hoped it could be.
That was the magic of those former times, and we've
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got to have to regain that now.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Winston, good luck in Washington. Go get us a deal
on egg or a deal without Paris. Thanks for your time,
Thank you, Viva Las Vegas, Viva Washington. Good luck Winston.
We'll see how he goes, see if he can do
any better than the Ossies. Talking about OSSI's, We've got
our Ossie correspondent Chris Russell coming up a wee. But
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later in the hour, Elvis is on the show as well.
Michelle Sands out of Horticulture, New Zealand on the proposed
new water storage facility. I love a dam on the
Heritonga Plains and Hawks Bay. But up next it's Professor
Keith Woodford who wants Fonterra to give Kiwi's an Ipo
floating of its consumer brand's business, so we can have
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a bite of the dairy cherry. That's up next Beav
Beavan b Las.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Vegas with you.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
An next guest on the Country possesses one of the
sharpest minds in New Zealand agriculture, even if he's having
a bit of a battle at the moment with his body,
Professor Keith Woodford from Lincoln University, and Keith, I was
alerted to some comments you'd made online online about Fonterra
selling its consumer brand business. You're saying that the decision
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to sell the consumer brands is no longer a debate.
It's happening. But the options are whether we should sell
to an existing international dairy marketer whose options are based overseas,
or an IPO, an initial public offering here in New
Zealand keep ownership of that in New Zealand. Surely the latter,
Keith Woodford, is a win win.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
Yes, it is. It's something that all sides of politics
should be able to get their mind around, all reasonable people.
But it just needs to be the flag needs to
be waived just a bit more at the moment and
the broader New Zealand community needs to understand that this
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is an opportunity for all New Zealand to become involved
in the dairy industry as shareholders in what Fonterra is
saying would be called mainland and Mainland would own well,
they would be the international market of both in New
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Zealand and overseas of consumer branded products. Gosh, it really
just should be a windwind.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Now let's just go back a step. I take it
that you are wholeheartedly in support of Fonterra selling its
consumer brands business.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
When they came out with that a year ago, I
was nervous because I think it's important that Fonterra retains
an open window through and what's happening in the consumer world.
And the idea of Fonterra just selling bulk products, be
it as commodities or food service, that left me very nervous.
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And as the world changes, as it inevitably will do.
When Fonterra first talked of selling the consumer brands, the
talk seemed to be very much of selling to an
overseas company. Hey, that made me nervous. However, I see
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now that Fonterra is actively exploring the two alternatives, one
being to sell to a trade buyer who would come
from overseas, the other being a IPO, a public offering,
so it would become a public company on the New
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Zealand Stock Exchange, could be New Zealand and Australian Stock Exchange.
But I think it be good of it's headquartered here
in New Zealand. And ideally Fonterra would retain a minority stake,
so that'd still be at the board table, but they
wouldn't control the board. The company would have its own
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totally different culture which relates to fast moving consumer goods
and it's something we could all be be part of.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, Okay, just to finish on because I'm running out
of time. So you're also suggesting that the superfund or
acc could be ideal cornerstone investors if it was floated
on an IPO.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
Yes, remember that there's a number of superannuation funds. There's
the Government Supernation Fund, but there's also all the other
private funds that most of us is where our retirement
savings go. And I'm pretty sure that some of those
would be interested in taking a significant steak and then
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the rest of it gets floated for all of us
that we can buy buy shares on the sheer market.
So it's an exciting idea, and we've got to get
not just farmers on side, because the board would be
able to sell this, I'm sure to the farmers and
would still bring in a lot of capital, but we
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need to get urban New Zealand on board as well.
But hey, this is exciting. What I'm saying is that
there is more than an industry. It's part of our
New Zealand DNA. It's incritically important to all of us,
and hey, this is one way that we can all
get an explicit steake.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Professor Keith Woodford always good to catch up with you.
That mind is still as sharp as a tack.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
Good luck, thanks Shammy.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Good on your Keith, and go well having a bit
of a battle with the big Sea. But he's doing
pretty well. Great block too. Send us your feedback on
five double nine on whether you think an IPO, what
is initial public offering for Fonterra's consumer brand's business would
be a good idea? Is it something you'd buy into?
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Would be a pretty good brand? I reckon business, I
would have thought, so give us your feedback on that one.
Lots of feedback coming in on Winston and the school
lunch is back in the fifties and sixties, small town
South Island, we biked home for lunch. Reminds me of
the Four Yorkshiremen. In fact, Rachelle Michelle reminded me of
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the Four Yorkshiremen. And we might even play that for
you today or tomorrow from Monty Python. You tell the
young people of today that and they won't believe you.
Up next to Michelle Sands from Horticulture New Zealand this
new water storage yay another and Hawk's Bay potentially that's
up next.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
We're trapped in a world.
Speaker 6 (16:07):
That's travel.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
What as long as them long suffering listeners to the
country will know that I love nothing more than tall
buildings and dams. In fact, I love dams. We need
more of them here in New Zealand. And good news
there is the prospect for a new water storage facility
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on the Heratonga Plains in Hawkes Bay, one of the
most productive pieces of land in the country. To tell
us more about it. From Horticulture in New Zealand. She's
the GM of Strategy and Policy. She was the stand
in CEO also between Nadine Tunney and Kate Scott. Michelle Sands, Michelle,
this is good news. How far down the track are
we on this new water storage facility.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
Well, I think that this water storage facility as just
going into it feasibility stage, and so there's some more
work to be done in terms of that. It's you know,
it's design, but it is a really great opportunity for
irrigators on the Heritongua planes. You know, it's it's a
really important area for horticulture. There's a great diversity of
crops grown there, but it's really the heart of the
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apple industry, with over sixty percent of the apple industry
located in Hawk's Bay. So and at the moment, we
have a situation where the groundwater is fully over fully
allocated or maybe over allocated, and so in order for
those growers to continue to have access to reliable water,
we really need to think about how we can store
and shear water better. And this storage provides the opportunity
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to harvest high flow, to store that, to allow that
harvested water to be used to replenish the nutted ord
or in the springs so they don't reach low flows,
and to enable growers to continue to take water when
they need it. With the lesser and fomental impacts.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Without wanting to sound like the prime minister must luxe.
And let me be clear about this, Michelle. This is separate,
is it not from the Tuki Tooki which is the
replacement for ruey tanafar am I? Right? Am I getting
my dams right?
Speaker 7 (18:11):
Yes, that's right. So the turk Tiki storage is on
the Tiki Tiki River, which is south of the Herotong.
The planes there more in central Hawks Bay and the
nadded or Or is the big river that runs on
the Hereto on the planes and so they are separate
and they do serve different different kind of catchments for
the most part. But Tooki took comes into the lower
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part of the hero Toonga, so you know, so they
complementary really rather than than a replacement, and they serve
different different areas and the different scales as well. So
this storage is smaller than the Tooki Toki.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Someone else you loves dams and water storage storage is
the Minister for regional development. I call them the minister
for digging it up and damming it up. Shane Jones
has he got his fingers involved in this one?
Speaker 7 (18:55):
I'm not quite sure about that, but it does it is.
I think it has attracted regional development funding for this
phase of the feasibility study and potentially it could also
be a candidate for fast track, but it may not
need to use a fast track process. I think that's
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all to be determined in the future.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Just while I've got you, how is the harvest going
in Hawke's Bay?
Speaker 8 (19:22):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (19:22):
Yeah, good, and that harvest is underway. The apple crops
looking good. It's been a really early season for kenvy fruit,
of which there is fewer crops here in the Hawk's Bay.
But yep, we've had good with this year for the
harvest is looking good.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Okay. Michelle Sands from Horticulture, New Zealand, thanks for your
time today on the Country. By the way, we'll be
talking to Shane Jones on tomorrow's show, so I might
ask him about this and get a plug in and
I'm sure he will be a keen advocate for this
new water storage facility on the Heretongua planes. Go well, Michelle,
Thanks great to talk to you. What it is twelve
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thirty one, You may know it is twenty nine away
from one. Up next Michelle with the latest and rural news.
We'll have sports news for you before the end of
the Yeir our Ossie correspondent Chris Russell the tidy up
after tropical cyclone. Alfred and Elvis will join us on
the show a wee bit later to wrap things.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
So.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Elvis coming up a wee bit later in the show.
Chris Russell also our Ossie correspondent. But here's Michelle Watt
with the latest and rural.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
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Nz for your local stugist.
Speaker 9 (20:48):
Federated Farmers in Southland are encouraging anyone who is planning
on duck hunting in south in the season to purchase
their license from another region. The boycott comes from a
building frustration with south and fishing game being seen as
unnecessarily obstructive in many areas around farm practice. Federated Farmers
South And President Jason Herreck says they are not asking
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shooters to boycott, boycott, boycott licenses altogether and still want
people to be hunting legally. The boycott hopes to send
a clear message to the Fishing Game Council in Southland
so they can start engaging more constructively with farmers.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Lo love loss there between fish and game and feeds.
Down south, it's all on, gloves are off and.
Speaker 9 (21:28):
Our Communications Minister Paul Goldsmith has announced some regulatory changes
to improve tallem telecommunications services for rural communities and helping
to promote economic growth. One of the key changes is
removing regulatory barriers for the smaller local fiber companies, enabling
them to deliver other wholesale telecommunications services so they can
offer different types of connectivity to people and hard to
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reach areas. And that's rural news.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Sport with AFCO Kiwi to the bone since nineteen oh four.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
The Blows have confirmed Boden Barrett will spend four to
six weeks on the Super Rugby Pacific sidelines. The All
Black's utility fractured his hands and the Blues his hand
singular not hands hand and the Blues home defeat to
the Brumbies last Friday, and the world's top golfers are
resigned to not having Tiger Woods around for this year's
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majors after his achilles injury. What a shame He's not
going to be at the greatest golf tournament of all
it's only about a month away and that is of
course the masters up next our master. He is an
old master from Australia. Chris Russell.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Pausie update with Ecolab, Solid Range, solid Products, Solid Partnership,
Solid Results on.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
A cold and Gracia cargo, morn in a pool.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Little baby child is born in the Girtle. He's there
as he correspondent Chris Russell, based out of Sydney. Chris.
Let's go up the road awe bit to the Gold Coast.
How's the wash up or the clean up going after
tropical Cyclone Alfred.
Speaker 8 (23:03):
Yes, so it's the cleanups well and truly underway. They've
really been. It's more about rain than it is about wind.
It's actually depreciated as a wind force as it came
over the top of Morton Island. But by jear dropped
a lot of rain, you know, three quarters of a
meter of rain dropped over the Gold Court coast and
in Brisbane, so there's a lot of water damage, water everywhere.
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Twenty two thousand insurance claims have already been lodged and
two thousand I think they call them fast claims have
already been paid to get people out of the immediate trouble,
but yeah, a lot of water, happily not as much wind,
and happily Lismore was saved by its now raised wall
that goes around the outside, which looks a bit like
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one of Trump's walls into Mexico, except it's got no
holes in it, and it's certainly'd saved the day in
terms of any downtown flooding of Lismore, which they're very
grateful about. They didn't have to go through the twenty
twenty two experience again.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Now you mentioned Donald Trump as he shafted elbow.
Speaker 8 (24:05):
I think he's shafted Australia. I think that he doesn't
like Albou. He doesn't like our commissioner in the US now,
Kevin Rudd, because he called him an idiot once before.
We had former Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull, who was the
one who secured our exemption on the last occasion. He
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threatened on the Trump won pregnancy pregnancy presidency and he
does not any of those people, so I think he's
such an egotistical guy. He said no, they can come
and do their still processing over here, and he's not
accepting anyone. So it is a kick in the guts
and I'm not sure if it's redeemable or not. Any
of you just wouldn't know. He's just someone go over
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shout him a nice hamburger and a sweet talking for
a minute. He may well change his mind, but certainly
the head of our navy here we were, Admiral Barry,
is saying he has reeled doubt about the Orcus Treaty
actually being realized and whether Trump will in vacsay, No,
we need to keep all our submarines for us. We
can't afford to selling into Australia. And despite all the
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planning and all the work and the fact we've already
put five hundred million and promised three point two billion
to help pay for their Virginia class submarine factory, but
he'll walk away and say no, sorry, we need all
our submarines here, you can't have one. So they're now
for the first time calling for a Plan B, and
that may well interestingly involve the French again, because England's
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not in a much better position about building their astute
class submarines, which was our second choice.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Jomie, Hey, Chris, do you think agriculture's next? Trump's making
noise about April to second it won't be good for
either Australia or New Zealand obviously.
Speaker 8 (25:47):
Look, he's getting a lot of pressure, particularly from the
lamb produces in America, to put a tariff on Australian
or particularly Australian and also New Zealand lamb because of
the fact that they just can't compete over there with
what we can get it into the country for I
wouldn't be surprised at all if we didn't see some
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effect on that. The only thing that's in it working
against a little bit us having too much effect is
our low dollar. So of course our dollars drop down
to around sixty two cents now from twenty and sixteen
I think was the high where we're up around seventy
five seventy six cents, So you know, it's been up
and down all over the place. So that's certainly helping us.
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But I don't think anyone's assuming anything with Trump. He's
just as lately to impose that tack, that tax, despite
the fact that Erricker is screaming for our hamburger meat
in particular, and we in fact are sending record amounts
over there at the moment. We just can't keep up
with demand, Jomie. So the short ans your question is no,
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it's not safe, and no we wouldn't. I wouldn't put
any money on the fact that he won't impose some
sort of attax or tariff on our ported agricultural product.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Let's finish very quickly on sport. You're a big Paramatta
fan and the NRL have been a supporter of the
club all your life, for most of it. Anyhow, Chris Russell,
Dylan Brown's gone. He's going to go to Newcastle. Fourteen
million over the next ten years. Not bad money if
you can get it.
Speaker 8 (27:18):
No, and everyone is surprised that even Dylan Brownham said
to us he had no intention of leaving the Eels,
never intended to do that. He's played been associated with
the Eels ever since he came from New Zealand as
a fifteen year old. But you how can he knock
back fourteen million dollars? And more important to him is security,
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the fact that he's now guaranteed an income of one
point four million dollars a year for the next ten years.
And I think his managers will be saying, mate, he'd
want rocks in your head not to take that sort
of an offer.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Chris Russell, thanks for your time. Catch you again next week.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
I worry shoe.
Speaker 6 (28:03):
Yeahs we can.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Well as promised, we always deliver here on the country.
We've got Alvis for you. We're heading to the wire rapper. Yes,
he's left the building. He's out on the roads. His
name is Andrew Elvis Jennings O PGG Wrights and stock
Agent that we're yarning to this month before we talk
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about the latest Wien affairs and the lamb trading and
the wire rapper. Elvis, if I can call you that,
how did you get the name?
Speaker 10 (28:39):
Yes, so back in ninety four I am, oh good
a Jamie. But back in ninety four week Charity Training
College and a few the lads who said Charotype pub
for a few beers, and I got up and sung
with Cherrick United and sung that Suspicious Minds by Elvis,
and our lady took a short a bit of affection
towards me and amy a kiss and told me she
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loved Elvis.
Speaker 11 (29:01):
And ever since then, the lads that we're down there
with and in the name stuck called Elvis eversonce.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Ooh, what a great nickname. Hey tell me talk to
me about the wien affair. I think it was yesterday
in the wire wrapper, Wiena calves and we all know
beef beef is enjoying record prices. I'm assuming there'd be
a pretty keen bench of buyers sitting there.
Speaker 11 (29:22):
Yeah, we probably had the Roshromus full, a great bench
of buyers from all around the regions, carves winners, m
Finald's King Country, Hawk's Bay, Mental two. But yeah, a
good bitch of buyers. And it's good to sort of
have a lot of a good feel about the cattle
industry at the moment. It's got strength and stability.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Getting a bit dry in the wire wrapper, I'm looking
at my knee with drought index map and you've kind
of turned yellow. Doesn't mean you're super dry, but is
this just normal for you guys at this time of year.
Speaker 11 (29:51):
Yeah, yeah, it sort of. It sort of feels like
we're running a little bit late, like February was a
bit beginning of February as we but we have been dry.
We these followup rains, but we're not We're not critical
like you know people and the farmers and taraniki and stuff.
So no, we're not too bad. We're taking over right now.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Lamb traders at this time of the year buying the
stores for the you know, to take take through the winter.
Add some value if you want. And Lamb like beef's
pretty positive at the moment.
Speaker 11 (30:22):
Yeah, as agents, we've got nothing of nothing but good
news to sort of tell farmers at the moment. But yeah,
Lamb job people just sort of lambs on top of
crops at the moment. They won't start reloading probably for
another three or four weeks. But yeah, real strength and
stability in both the Kettle Market store and to Kill
and also strengthens stability in the in the Landmarker. Everybody
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feels pretty positive about this. It's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Well, everyone's getting a clip of the ticket this year,
which is good because some of those store producing farmers
or the hill country farmers who sell store stock, they've
had a bit of a tough time in recent seasons. Yeah,
last it was one.
Speaker 11 (31:01):
Would choose to forget it was. It was pretty brutal. Yeah,
and like there's right through the age gaps the older
guys who had probably seen it before and the young
guys that haven't seen a bad outcome with because obviously
the wipers are drought on the back end of a
really bad price as well, so just behind us we
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try and forget it, but it's still burning inver there
in the back there, I guess with farmers are still
negotiating with banks with refinancing and stuff. But it's it's
we'll chalk it up to experience and turn the page
and says bier and better things on the horizon.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Now my sources. Just finally, Andrew Alvis Jennings tell me
that not only are you a bit of a killer
when it comes to the karaoke, are no pun intended?
You also like getting out amongst the raw, so that
won't be a mile away.
Speaker 11 (31:52):
Yeah, yeah, sort of myself and a couple of lands
week we normally get down into the woppity Bellot and
fuel them, but lately we've missed out on that, but
we get up into the back of the Southern helps
for a bit of a raw hunt. So that's it's
always good time just to check out a work, turn
the cell phone off and hitting the hills and put
yourself under a bit of juris and see if you
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can get that elusive trophy.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Alvis Jennings, great to catch up with you on the
country Suspicious Minds, by the way, is my favorite Alvis track.
Thanks thanks for joining us today on the Country Perfect
kevil go one, cheers mate. Yeah, I told you we'd
have Alvis on the show today. Thank you Andrew Jennings.
Now we got a text in earlier in the hour.
Back in the fifties and sixties and small town South Island,
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we biked home for lunch and Michelle said it reminded
of her of that great skit from Monty Python the
Four Yorkshiremen. Just because we can here it is.
Speaker 12 (32:48):
Who would have thought thirty years ago it I'll be
sitting there drinking shutter this chasle Hi.
Speaker 13 (32:54):
And then days it was glad to have the price
of a cup of tea, a cup of gold tea Hi,
without milk or sugar, our tea.
Speaker 12 (33:04):
In a cracked cup and all oh, we never had
a cup. We used to have to drink out of
a roll up newspaper.
Speaker 14 (33:10):
The most weekend manage was to suck on a piece
of damp cloth.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
We know we were happy in those days, though we
were poor.
Speaker 14 (33:18):
Because we were poor.
Speaker 15 (33:20):
My old dad used to say to me, money don't
buy your happiness, son.
Speaker 14 (33:23):
I was right.
Speaker 12 (33:24):
I was happier then, and I had nothing. We used
to live in this tiny old house with gray, big
oars in the roof.
Speaker 14 (33:31):
House. We're looking to live in the house. We used
to live in one room, all twenty six of us,
no furniture, after the floor was missing, and we were
all huddled together in one corner of dear falling.
Speaker 12 (33:42):
You were lucky to have a room.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
We used to have to live in corridor.
Speaker 12 (33:46):
Oh, we used to dream of living in a corridor.
Speaker 14 (33:50):
Would have been a palace to us.
Speaker 13 (33:53):
We used to live in all water tangle, a rubbish tip.
Speaker 12 (33:57):
We got to walk up every morning.
Speaker 13 (33:58):
We're having a load of roughing feet stumped over us house.
Speaker 12 (34:03):
When I say house, it was only a hole in
the ground, coming by a sheet of tarp warning there
was a house to us.
Speaker 14 (34:09):
We were evicted from our hole in the ground. We
had to go and live in a lake.
Speaker 15 (34:15):
You were lucky to have a lake.
Speaker 14 (34:17):
Two one hundred and fifty of us living in shoe.
Speaker 15 (34:19):
Boxing, middle of the road, cardboard box. You were lucky.
We lived for three months in a paper bag in
a septic tank. We just have a girl at six
in the morning, clean the paper bag, eat across the stilbread,
go to workout mill fourteen hours a day, week in
week out for six months a week, and when we
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go home, our dad would thrash.
Speaker 13 (34:43):
Us to sleep with his belt.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
Luxury.
Speaker 14 (34:49):
We used to have to get out of the lake
at six o'clock in the morning, clean the lake. He
dans will of hot gravel. Worked twenty hour day at
mill for two months of months, come home and Dad
would thrash to sleep with a broken bottle. If we
were lucky, well, of course.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
We had it tough. We're used to have to get a.
Speaker 13 (35:08):
Out of shoe box at twelve o'clock at night and
lick road clean.
Speaker 8 (35:11):
We're tongue.
Speaker 14 (35:12):
We had two bits of cold gravel what twenty four
a day, eight over six and seventy four years.
Speaker 13 (35:17):
When we go on, oh, Dad would.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Slash it to with bread knife.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Right.
Speaker 12 (35:23):
I had to get up in the morning at ten
o'clock at night, half an hour before I went to bed,
drink a cup of sulfuric acid, work twenty nine hours
a day down mill. I'm paidment honor for permission to
come to work. And when we got home I tell
an almother would kill us and dance about in our grave.
Speaker 15 (35:38):
Singing Anna Lujah, and you try and tell the young
people today that they won't believe you.
Speaker 6 (35:45):
They won't.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
We care to see. Oh there we go turn it down.
But what a brilliant way to finish the show, Monty Python,
the four Yorkshiremen. We were lucky luxury any hell, Michelle,
at your request, we played it so well done for
calling that one. Here's some more feedback from Kevin, a
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Mada Matter farmer who says one damn which is admittedly
bloody good, but why not ten stop pissing around and
get on with the Shane Jones fighting words there from Kevin,
the Mada Matter farmer. Well, we'll have Shane Jones on
the show tomorrow and we'll ask him if he's gonna
build some more dams. Why not? Okay, we'll catch them
(36:32):
back tomorrow. Take care show.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
That's ready to burn.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
So we'll get those stay gigs of a pier. There's
a busand bird who women who we're not there. They're
all living the double make care and I am just
a devil with no spear.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Cata, New Zealand. Welcome to the Country. I'm Jamie mackay.
The show is brought to you by Brant Alvis theme
today because, believe it or not, a week bit later
in the hour, we've got Alvis on the show or
keep the powder dry there, but we're going to kick it.
Is he the kick it off with? Is he the
Elvis Presley of New Zealand politics, Winston Peters. I don't
know about Viva Las Vegas, but he's off to Washington tonight.
(00:56):
He is meeting with their Secretary of State Marco Rubio,
who's just broken hopefully some sort of peace deal for
Russia and Ukraine in the Middle East. Professor Keith Woodford
will join us on the show today. One of the
sharpest mines in New Zealand Agriculture wants Fonterra to offer
(01:18):
Kiwi's a bite of the dairy cherry when it comes
to floating an ipo for floating an ipo, should I
say of its consumer brand's business which is going to sell?
Michelle Sands joins us from horticulture in New Zealand and
New Dam and Hawk's Bay can't beat that. And Chris
Russell our Ossie correspondent, Tropical cyclone, Alfred Trump and tariffs
(01:40):
and Dylan Brown fourteen million dollars for ten years. Not
bad money if you can get it. But Winston Peters
to kick off the country nextav he is the Deputy
(02:04):
Prime Minister, New Zealand First Leader and Foreign Affairs Minister.
He's off to Washington later tonight to meet with Secretary
of State Marco Rubio. Lots to talk about. Are you
going to cut some sort of deal with the Winston Peters.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Look, I think it's very wise when you're going to
see another country that you do them the courtesy of
making your message to them first before you tell everybody
else what are you going to talk about? So I'm
very very courseus to stay in our lane, so to speak.
To put New Zealand's case. And to above all here
(02:39):
the mouth listen to their side of the story, so
to speak.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Well, it's going to be about tariffs and the geopolitical
tension in the Pacific. Do you think an Australia's failed
that you might be able to on the world stage
cut a deal with America around tariff's, especially when it
comes to agriculture, because as it stands at the moment,
as I understand it, April, can we face tariffs on
agriculture again?
Speaker 4 (03:04):
This is something we're going to find out. We're going
to have a discussion about it. Remember that until twenty
twenty four, our balance of trade was pretty even, so
we were not, as I say, using the Americans, and
we've been a free trade country since the mid eighties,
and so we've got a good record to tell. And
also we already had tariffs on aluminum and steel. Our
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job is to see what better we can get out
of it, and let's see how the talks developed. But
I'm not going in any other sense for them to
ensure that there's an understanding of how important this country
of New Zeum, of New Zeum is to them and
to the Pacific.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Have you had a phone call already. Have you met
Marco Rubio?
Speaker 5 (03:48):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (03:49):
I spoke to him very shortly after we got the job.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yes, will you get to run unto Trump while you're
in Washington at the White House.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
We don't make comments like that that. We'd rather report
you what does happened, rather than to build up whole
of expectations and then fail people when we get there.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Now, talking about Trump, are you doing a bit of
a Trump around DEI Diversity, equity and inclusion, ridding the
public sector of woke left wing social engineering and diversity targets.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Well, that's the kind of name thing that the mainstream
media have said, knowing full well that we campaigned extensively,
packing halls all the way through twenty twenty three in
that campaign, a long time before the American presidential elections,
and to say that we're imitating Trump is just nonsense.
And the records all out there, and we've been doing
this for a long time in the campaign, all the
(04:42):
way to the Cordison Agreement where we said we want
things change. Now, what you've got here is quotas plans,
and I said exercises in employment, we should discriminatory against
people because if they don't build their so called category
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minority as it might be, then they don't get the job.
And it's happening. I have been told by the mainstream
media we haven't got any examples. Well, on our x account,
on our Facebook account, we're going past one hundred thousand people,
many of whom are complaining exactly of what we're talking
about and saying, yeah, I know, mister Peters, that's what
(05:27):
happened to me. And so I'm saying to the mainstream media,
stopping incredibly biased, start paying attention to what the ordinary
people out there are saying. Because they want a pair world,
a fair go at the chance of employment, and they
don't want discrimination that is designed by a hand picked
small group of self appointed social engineers.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Now that's how simple, all right. A lot of the
people and circles that I move in, which is mainly
sort of farming, rugby golf circles, that may not be
a good cross section society. Winston say, I'm going to
vote for New Zealand first. Winston and Shane. I like
what they're saying. Why is that not being reflected in
the polls? On the last poll? And I know you're
going to say buger. The polls five point one percent,
(06:13):
you barely passed the threshold.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Look, I am not both saying, but I've got away
in political science and I've got a long career in
politics and been written off so many times by a
whole lot of people. You know what was big in
that poll, which defied what you just said as preferred
prime minisiles on eight point six. Now, eight point six
is not going to be a lesser sum of people
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won in New Zealand first. It'll be eight point six
plus who want New Zealand first. And so there is
the real part of the poll which these mainstream media
people again, whether it's that of egnants or purpose totally neglect,
But anyone who understands politics and understands the poles are
looking at the plus and minus for personalities and we
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were just minus one that dramatic turnaround and eight point
six and on the rise as preferred by miss Now
I'm not saying that other than to tell you that's
the part of the poll that screamed out that their
interpretation of it was utterly wrong.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Just to finish on, you came from a humble background
in Northland, and I know you speak very highly of
your late mother. Did your mother ever have any difficulty
giving you school lunch?
Speaker 4 (07:29):
No she didn't, and we were from a poor family,
but we always got some lunch, and often there would
be six separate lunches in the one bag and one person,
the senior person was put in charge of it. Now,
that's what said has happened here. I know a lot
of teachers, a lot of teachers very very closely, and
they've talked about the incredible waste of the former regime
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and it was incredible. Now we could and should do
far more focus planning than that. Let me tell you
what was like in my school, largely Mari school, but
the farming community provided a lot of the food and
vegetables and what have you. The boys were charged with
all the preparation, working under the supervision of the senior girls,
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and the girls made this to anybody wanted some munch
could get it. Now, that's the difference between now and
back then, when we all were self reliant and doing
it ourselves well.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
You were truly a diverse and inclusive and equitable school
back in those days, Winston DEI, back at your primary
school days in Northland, No, we.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Didn't do dei, we're not talking about diversity, equity, inclusiveness,
and then have a master plan that comes out of
the sort of George orwell, now, we talked about giving
people a chance to get decent health, to have a
good diet, and to get a decent education, and to
take us as far as our dreams hoped it could be.
That was the magic of those former times, and we've
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got to have to regain that now.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Winston, good luck in Washington. Go get us a deal
on egg or a deal without Paris. Thanks for your time,
Thank you, Viva Las Vegas, Viva Washington. Good luck Winston.
We'll see how he goes, see if he can do
any better than the Ossies. Talking about OSSI's, We've got
our Ossie correspondent Chris Russell coming up a wee. But
(09:13):
later in the hour, Elvis is on the show as well.
Michelle Sands out of Horticulture, New Zealand on the proposed
new water storage facility. I love a dam on the
Heritonga Plains and Hawks Bay. But up next it's Professor
Keith Woodford who wants Fonterra to give Kiwi's an Ipo
floating of its consumer brand's business, so we can have
(09:37):
a bite of the dairy cherry. That's up next Beav
Beavan b Las.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Vegas with you.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
An next guest on the Country possesses one of the
sharpest minds in New Zealand agriculture, even if he's having
a bit of a battle at the moment with his body,
Professor Keith Woodford from Lincoln University, and Keith, I was
alerted to some comments you'd made online online about Fonterra
selling its consumer brand business. You're saying that the decision
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to sell the consumer brands is no longer a debate.
It's happening. But the options are whether we should sell
to an existing international dairy marketer whose options are based overseas,
or an IPO, an initial public offering here in New
Zealand keep ownership of that in New Zealand. Surely the latter,
Keith Woodford, is a win win.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
Yes, it is. It's something that all sides of politics
should be able to get their mind around, all reasonable people.
But it just needs to be the flag needs to
be waived just a bit more at the moment and
the broader New Zealand community needs to understand that this
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is an opportunity for all New Zealand to become involved
in the dairy industry as shareholders in what Fonterra is
saying would be called mainland and Mainland would own well,
they would be the international market of both in New
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Zealand and overseas of consumer branded products. Gosh, it really
just should be a windwind.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Now let's just go back a step. I take it
that you are wholeheartedly in support of Fonterra selling its
consumer brands business.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
When they came out with that a year ago, I
was nervous because I think it's important that Fonterra retains
an open window through and what's happening in the consumer world.
And the idea of Fonterra just selling bulk products, be
it as commodities or food service, that left me very nervous.
(12:14):
And as the world changes, as it inevitably will do.
When Fonterra first talked of selling the consumer brands, the
talk seemed to be very much of selling to an
overseas company. Hey, that made me nervous. However, I see
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now that Fonterra is actively exploring the two alternatives, one
being to sell to a trade buyer who would come
from overseas, the other being a IPO, a public offering,
so it would become a public company on the New
(13:00):
Zealand Stock Exchange, could be New Zealand and Australian Stock Exchange.
But I think it be good of it's headquartered here
in New Zealand. And ideally Fonterra would retain a minority stake,
so that'd still be at the board table, but they
wouldn't control the board. The company would have its own
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totally different culture which relates to fast moving consumer goods
and it's something we could all be be part of.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, Okay, just to finish on because I'm running out
of time. So you're also suggesting that the superfund or
acc could be ideal cornerstone investors if it was floated
on an IPO.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
Yes, remember that there's a number of superannuation funds. There's
the Government Supernation Fund, but there's also all the other
private funds that most of us is where our retirement
savings go. And I'm pretty sure that some of those
would be interested in taking a significant steak and then
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the rest of it gets floated for all of us
that we can buy buy shares on the sheer market.
So it's an exciting idea, and we've got to get
not just farmers on side, because the board would be
able to sell this, I'm sure to the farmers and
would still bring in a lot of capital, but we
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need to get urban New Zealand on board as well.
But hey, this is exciting. What I'm saying is that
there is more than an industry. It's part of our
New Zealand DNA. It's incritically important to all of us,
and hey, this is one way that we can all
get an explicit steake.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Professor Keith Woodford always good to catch up with you.
That mind is still as sharp as a tack.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
Good luck, thanks Shammy.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Good on your Keith, and go well having a bit
of a battle with the big Sea. But he's doing
pretty well. Great block too. Send us your feedback on
five double nine on whether you think an IPO, what
is initial public offering for Fonterra's consumer brand's business would
be a good idea? Is it something you'd buy into?
(15:25):
Would be a pretty good brand? I reckon business, I
would have thought, so give us your feedback on that one.
Lots of feedback coming in on Winston and the school
lunch is back in the fifties and sixties, small town
South Island, we biked home for lunch. Reminds me of
the Four Yorkshiremen. In fact, Rachelle Michelle reminded me of
(15:45):
the Four Yorkshiremen. And we might even play that for
you today or tomorrow from Monty Python. You tell the
young people of today that and they won't believe you.
Up next to Michelle Sands from Horticulture New Zealand this
new water storage yay another and Hawk's Bay potentially that's
up next.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
We're trapped in a world.
Speaker 6 (16:07):
That's travel.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
What as long as them long suffering listeners to the
country will know that I love nothing more than tall
buildings and dams. In fact, I love dams. We need
more of them here in New Zealand. And good news
there is the prospect for a new water storage facility
(16:34):
on the Heratonga Plains in Hawkes Bay, one of the
most productive pieces of land in the country. To tell
us more about it. From Horticulture in New Zealand. She's
the GM of Strategy and Policy. She was the stand
in CEO also between Nadine Tunney and Kate Scott. Michelle Sands, Michelle,
this is good news. How far down the track are
we on this new water storage facility.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
Well, I think that this water storage facility as just
going into it feasibility stage, and so there's some more
work to be done in terms of that. It's you know,
it's design, but it is a really great opportunity for
irrigators on the Heritongua planes. You know, it's it's a
really important area for horticulture. There's a great diversity of
crops grown there, but it's really the heart of the
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apple industry, with over sixty percent of the apple industry
located in Hawk's Bay. So and at the moment, we
have a situation where the groundwater is fully over fully
allocated or maybe over allocated, and so in order for
those growers to continue to have access to reliable water,
we really need to think about how we can store
and shear water better. And this storage provides the opportunity
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to harvest high flow, to store that, to allow that
harvested water to be used to replenish the nutted ord
or in the springs so they don't reach low flows,
and to enable growers to continue to take water when
they need it. With the lesser and fomental impacts.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Without wanting to sound like the prime minister must luxe.
And let me be clear about this, Michelle. This is separate,
is it not from the Tuki Tooki which is the
replacement for ruey tanafar am I? Right? Am I getting
my dams right?
Speaker 7 (18:11):
Yes, that's right. So the turk Tiki storage is on
the Tiki Tiki River, which is south of the Herotong.
The planes there more in central Hawks Bay and the
nadded or Or is the big river that runs on
the Hereto on the planes and so they are separate
and they do serve different different kind of catchments for
the most part. But Tooki took comes into the lower
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part of the hero Toonga, so you know, so they
complementary really rather than than a replacement, and they serve
different different areas and the different scales as well. So
this storage is smaller than the Tooki Toki.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Someone else you loves dams and water storage storage is
the Minister for regional development. I call them the minister
for digging it up and damming it up. Shane Jones
has he got his fingers involved in this one?
Speaker 7 (18:55):
I'm not quite sure about that, but it does it is.
I think it has attracted regional development funding for this
phase of the feasibility study and potentially it could also
be a candidate for fast track, but it may not
need to use a fast track process. I think that's
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all to be determined in the future.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Just while I've got you, how is the harvest going
in Hawke's Bay?
Speaker 8 (19:22):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (19:22):
Yeah, good, and that harvest is underway. The apple crops
looking good. It's been a really early season for kenvy fruit,
of which there is fewer crops here in the Hawk's Bay.
But yep, we've had good with this year for the
harvest is looking good.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Okay. Michelle Sands from Horticulture, New Zealand, thanks for your
time today on the Country. By the way, we'll be
talking to Shane Jones on tomorrow's show, so I might
ask him about this and get a plug in and
I'm sure he will be a keen advocate for this
new water storage facility on the Heretongua planes. Go well, Michelle,
Thanks great to talk to you. What it is twelve
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thirty one, You may know it is twenty nine away
from one. Up next Michelle with the latest and rural news.
We'll have sports news for you before the end of
the Yeir our Ossie correspondent Chris Russell the tidy up
after tropical cyclone. Alfred and Elvis will join us on
the show a wee bit later to wrap things.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
So.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Elvis coming up a wee bit later in the show.
Chris Russell also our Ossie correspondent. But here's Michelle Watt
with the latest and rural.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
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Nz for your local stugist.
Speaker 9 (20:48):
Federated Farmers in Southland are encouraging anyone who is planning
on duck hunting in south in the season to purchase
their license from another region. The boycott comes from a
building frustration with south and fishing game being seen as
unnecessarily obstructive in many areas around farm practice. Federated Farmers
South And President Jason Herreck says they are not asking
(21:08):
shooters to boycott, boycott, boycott licenses altogether and still want
people to be hunting legally. The boycott hopes to send
a clear message to the Fishing Game Council in Southland
so they can start engaging more constructively with farmers.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Lo love loss there between fish and game and feeds.
Down south, it's all on, gloves are off and.
Speaker 9 (21:28):
Our Communications Minister Paul Goldsmith has announced some regulatory changes
to improve tallem telecommunications services for rural communities and helping
to promote economic growth. One of the key changes is
removing regulatory barriers for the smaller local fiber companies, enabling
them to deliver other wholesale telecommunications services so they can
offer different types of connectivity to people and hard to
(21:50):
reach areas. And that's rural news.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Sport with AFCO Kiwi to the bone since nineteen oh four.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
The Blows have confirmed Boden Barrett will spend four to
six weeks on the Super Rugby Pacific sidelines. The All
Black's utility fractured his hands and the Blues his hand
singular not hands hand and the Blues home defeat to
the Brumbies last Friday, and the world's top golfers are
resigned to not having Tiger Woods around for this year's
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majors after his achilles injury. What a shame He's not
going to be at the greatest golf tournament of all
it's only about a month away and that is of
course the masters up next our master. He is an
old master from Australia. Chris Russell.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Pausie update with Ecolab, Solid Range, solid Products, Solid Partnership,
Solid Results on.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
A cold and Gracia cargo, morn in a pool.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Little baby child is born in the Girtle. He's there
as he correspondent Chris Russell, based out of Sydney. Chris.
Let's go up the road awe bit to the Gold Coast.
How's the wash up or the clean up going after
tropical Cyclone Alfred.
Speaker 8 (23:03):
Yes, so it's the cleanups well and truly underway. They've
really been. It's more about rain than it is about wind.
It's actually depreciated as a wind force as it came
over the top of Morton Island. But by jear dropped
a lot of rain, you know, three quarters of a
meter of rain dropped over the Gold Court coast and
in Brisbane, so there's a lot of water damage, water everywhere.
(23:25):
Twenty two thousand insurance claims have already been lodged and
two thousand I think they call them fast claims have
already been paid to get people out of the immediate trouble,
but yeah, a lot of water, happily not as much wind,
and happily Lismore was saved by its now raised wall
that goes around the outside, which looks a bit like
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one of Trump's walls into Mexico, except it's got no
holes in it, and it's certainly'd saved the day in
terms of any downtown flooding of Lismore, which they're very
grateful about. They didn't have to go through the twenty
twenty two experience again.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Now you mentioned Donald Trump as he shafted elbow.
Speaker 8 (24:05):
I think he's shafted Australia. I think that he doesn't
like Albou. He doesn't like our commissioner in the US now,
Kevin Rudd, because he called him an idiot once before.
We had former Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull, who was the
one who secured our exemption on the last occasion. He
(24:26):
threatened on the Trump won pregnancy pregnancy presidency and he
does not any of those people, so I think he's
such an egotistical guy. He said no, they can come
and do their still processing over here, and he's not
accepting anyone. So it is a kick in the guts
and I'm not sure if it's redeemable or not. Any
of you just wouldn't know. He's just someone go over
(24:49):
shout him a nice hamburger and a sweet talking for
a minute. He may well change his mind, but certainly
the head of our navy here we were, Admiral Barry,
is saying he has reeled doubt about the Orcus Treaty
actually being realized and whether Trump will in vacsay, No,
we need to keep all our submarines for us. We
can't afford to selling into Australia. And despite all the
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planning and all the work and the fact we've already
put five hundred million and promised three point two billion
to help pay for their Virginia class submarine factory, but
he'll walk away and say no, sorry, we need all
our submarines here, you can't have one. So they're now
for the first time calling for a Plan B, and
that may well interestingly involve the French again, because England's
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not in a much better position about building their astute
class submarines, which was our second choice.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Jomie, Hey, Chris, do you think agriculture's next? Trump's making
noise about April to second it won't be good for
either Australia or New Zealand obviously.
Speaker 8 (25:47):
Look, he's getting a lot of pressure, particularly from the
lamb produces in America, to put a tariff on Australian
or particularly Australian and also New Zealand lamb because of
the fact that they just can't compete over there with
what we can get it into the country for I
wouldn't be surprised at all if we didn't see some
(26:08):
effect on that. The only thing that's in it working
against a little bit us having too much effect is
our low dollar. So of course our dollars drop down
to around sixty two cents now from twenty and sixteen
I think was the high where we're up around seventy
five seventy six cents, So you know, it's been up
and down all over the place. So that's certainly helping us.
(26:30):
But I don't think anyone's assuming anything with Trump. He's
just as lately to impose that tack, that tax, despite
the fact that Erricker is screaming for our hamburger meat
in particular, and we in fact are sending record amounts
over there at the moment. We just can't keep up
with demand, Jomie. So the short ans your question is no,
(26:51):
it's not safe, and no we wouldn't. I wouldn't put
any money on the fact that he won't impose some
sort of attax or tariff on our ported agricultural product.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Let's finish very quickly on sport. You're a big Paramatta
fan and the NRL have been a supporter of the
club all your life, for most of it. Anyhow, Chris Russell,
Dylan Brown's gone. He's going to go to Newcastle. Fourteen
million over the next ten years. Not bad money if
you can get it.
Speaker 8 (27:18):
No, and everyone is surprised that even Dylan Brownham said
to us he had no intention of leaving the Eels,
never intended to do that. He's played been associated with
the Eels ever since he came from New Zealand as
a fifteen year old. But you how can he knock
back fourteen million dollars? And more important to him is security,
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the fact that he's now guaranteed an income of one
point four million dollars a year for the next ten years.
And I think his managers will be saying, mate, he'd
want rocks in your head not to take that sort
of an offer.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Chris Russell, thanks for your time. Catch you again next week.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
I worry shoe.
Speaker 6 (28:03):
Yeahs we can.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Well as promised, we always deliver here on the country.
We've got Alvis for you. We're heading to the wire rapper. Yes,
he's left the building. He's out on the roads. His
name is Andrew Elvis Jennings O PGG Wrights and stock
Agent that we're yarning to this month before we talk
(28:31):
about the latest Wien affairs and the lamb trading and
the wire rapper. Elvis, if I can call you that,
how did you get the name?
Speaker 10 (28:39):
Yes, so back in ninety four I am, oh good
a Jamie. But back in ninety four week Charity Training
College and a few the lads who said Charotype pub
for a few beers, and I got up and sung
with Cherrick United and sung that Suspicious Minds by Elvis,
and our lady took a short a bit of affection
towards me and amy a kiss and told me she
(29:01):
loved Elvis.
Speaker 11 (29:01):
And ever since then, the lads that we're down there
with and in the name stuck called Elvis eversonce.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Ooh, what a great nickname. Hey tell me talk to
me about the wien affair. I think it was yesterday
in the wire wrapper, Wiena calves and we all know
beef beef is enjoying record prices. I'm assuming there'd be
a pretty keen bench of buyers sitting there.
Speaker 11 (29:22):
Yeah, we probably had the Roshromus full, a great bench
of buyers from all around the regions, carves winners, m
Finald's King Country, Hawk's Bay, Mental two. But yeah, a
good bitch of buyers. And it's good to sort of
have a lot of a good feel about the cattle
industry at the moment. It's got strength and stability.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Getting a bit dry in the wire wrapper, I'm looking
at my knee with drought index map and you've kind
of turned yellow. Doesn't mean you're super dry, but is
this just normal for you guys at this time of year.
Speaker 11 (29:51):
Yeah, yeah, it sort of. It sort of feels like
we're running a little bit late, like February was a
bit beginning of February as we but we have been dry.
We these followup rains, but we're not We're not critical
like you know people and the farmers and taraniki and stuff.
So no, we're not too bad. We're taking over right now.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Lamb traders at this time of the year buying the
stores for the you know, to take take through the winter.
Add some value if you want. And Lamb like beef's
pretty positive at the moment.
Speaker 11 (30:22):
Yeah, as agents, we've got nothing of nothing but good
news to sort of tell farmers at the moment. But yeah,
Lamb job people just sort of lambs on top of
crops at the moment. They won't start reloading probably for
another three or four weeks. But yeah, real strength and
stability in both the Kettle Market store and to Kill
and also strengthens stability in the in the Landmarker. Everybody
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feels pretty positive about this. It's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Well, everyone's getting a clip of the ticket this year,
which is good because some of those store producing farmers
or the hill country farmers who sell store stock, they've
had a bit of a tough time in recent seasons. Yeah,
last it was one.
Speaker 11 (31:01):
Would choose to forget it was. It was pretty brutal. Yeah,
and like there's right through the age gaps the older
guys who had probably seen it before and the young
guys that haven't seen a bad outcome with because obviously
the wipers are drought on the back end of a
really bad price as well, so just behind us we
(31:22):
try and forget it, but it's still burning inver there
in the back there, I guess with farmers are still
negotiating with banks with refinancing and stuff. But it's it's
we'll chalk it up to experience and turn the page
and says bier and better things on the horizon.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Now my sources. Just finally, Andrew Alvis Jennings tell me
that not only are you a bit of a killer
when it comes to the karaoke, are no pun intended?
You also like getting out amongst the raw, so that
won't be a mile away.
Speaker 11 (31:52):
Yeah, yeah, sort of myself and a couple of lands
week we normally get down into the woppity Bellot and
fuel them, but lately we've missed out on that, but
we get up into the back of the Southern helps
for a bit of a raw hunt. So that's it's
always good time just to check out a work, turn
the cell phone off and hitting the hills and put
yourself under a bit of juris and see if you
(32:13):
can get that elusive trophy.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Alvis Jennings, great to catch up with you on the
country Suspicious Minds, by the way, is my favorite Alvis track.
Thanks thanks for joining us today on the Country Perfect
kevil go one, cheers mate. Yeah, I told you we'd
have Alvis on the show today. Thank you Andrew Jennings.
Now we got a text in earlier in the hour.
Back in the fifties and sixties and small town South Island,
(32:36):
we biked home for lunch and Michelle said it reminded
of her of that great skit from Monty Python the
Four Yorkshiremen. Just because we can here it is.
Speaker 12 (32:48):
Who would have thought thirty years ago it I'll be
sitting there drinking shutter this chasle Hi.
Speaker 13 (32:54):
And then days it was glad to have the price
of a cup of tea, a cup of gold tea Hi,
without milk or sugar, our tea.
Speaker 12 (33:04):
In a cracked cup and all oh, we never had
a cup. We used to have to drink out of
a roll up newspaper.
Speaker 14 (33:10):
The most weekend manage was to suck on a piece
of damp cloth.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
We know we were happy in those days, though we
were poor.
Speaker 14 (33:18):
Because we were poor.
Speaker 15 (33:20):
My old dad used to say to me, money don't
buy your happiness, son.
Speaker 14 (33:23):
I was right.
Speaker 12 (33:24):
I was happier then, and I had nothing. We used
to live in this tiny old house with gray, big
oars in the roof.
Speaker 14 (33:31):
House. We're looking to live in the house. We used
to live in one room, all twenty six of us,
no furniture, after the floor was missing, and we were
all huddled together in one corner of dear falling.
Speaker 12 (33:42):
You were lucky to have a room.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
We used to have to live in corridor.
Speaker 12 (33:46):
Oh, we used to dream of living in a corridor.
Speaker 14 (33:50):
Would have been a palace to us.
Speaker 13 (33:53):
We used to live in all water tangle, a rubbish tip.
Speaker 12 (33:57):
We got to walk up every morning.
Speaker 13 (33:58):
We're having a load of roughing feet stumped over us house.
Speaker 12 (34:03):
When I say house, it was only a hole in
the ground, coming by a sheet of tarp warning there
was a house to us.
Speaker 14 (34:09):
We were evicted from our hole in the ground. We
had to go and live in a lake.
Speaker 15 (34:15):
You were lucky to have a lake.
Speaker 14 (34:17):
Two one hundred and fifty of us living in shoe.
Speaker 15 (34:19):
Boxing, middle of the road, cardboard box. You were lucky.
We lived for three months in a paper bag in
a septic tank. We just have a girl at six
in the morning, clean the paper bag, eat across the stilbread,
go to workout mill fourteen hours a day, week in
week out for six months a week, and when we
(34:40):
go home, our dad would thrash.
Speaker 13 (34:43):
Us to sleep with his belt.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
Luxury.
Speaker 14 (34:49):
We used to have to get out of the lake
at six o'clock in the morning, clean the lake. He
dans will of hot gravel. Worked twenty hour day at
mill for two months of months, come home and Dad
would thrash to sleep with a broken bottle. If we
were lucky, well, of course.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
We had it tough. We're used to have to get a.
Speaker 13 (35:08):
Out of shoe box at twelve o'clock at night and
lick road clean.
Speaker 8 (35:11):
We're tongue.
Speaker 14 (35:12):
We had two bits of cold gravel what twenty four
a day, eight over six and seventy four years.
Speaker 13 (35:17):
When we go on, oh, Dad would.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Slash it to with bread knife.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Right.
Speaker 12 (35:23):
I had to get up in the morning at ten
o'clock at night, half an hour before I went to bed,
drink a cup of sulfuric acid, work twenty nine hours
a day down mill. I'm paidment honor for permission to
come to work. And when we got home I tell
an almother would kill us and dance about in our grave.
Speaker 15 (35:38):
Singing Anna Lujah, and you try and tell the young
people today that they won't believe you.
Speaker 6 (35:45):
They won't.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
We care to see. Oh there we go turn it down.
But what a brilliant way to finish the show, Monty Python,
the four Yorkshiremen. We were lucky luxury any hell, Michelle,
at your request, we played it so well done for
calling that one. Here's some more feedback from Kevin, a
(36:11):
Mada Matter farmer who says one damn which is admittedly
bloody good, but why not ten stop pissing around and
get on with the Shane Jones fighting words there from Kevin,
the Mada Matter farmer. Well, we'll have Shane Jones on
the show tomorrow and we'll ask him if he's gonna
build some more dams. Why not? Okay, we'll catch them
(36:32):
back tomorrow. Take care show.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's the Country
Podcast with Jamie McGue. Thanks to Brent, You're specialist in
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