March 13, 2025 • 7 mins
We catch up with the Prince of the Provinces before his address to the Investment Summit this afternoon, as he looks for foreign investment to pay for new mines, dams and gas exploration. Plus, he weighs in on Dame Jacinda Ardern and school lunches.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, for two days in a row, we've had New
Zealand first on the country. Apologies to non New Zealand
First fans, it's just the way it turned out. Really.
Yesterday it was Deare Leader Winston. Today it's Martua Shane Jones,
the Prince of the Provinces, the Minister of digging it
up and damming it up. Hey, Shane, minds you at
five point one percent in the polls, you and Winston
need all the publicity you can get.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Well, we're waiting for the inevitable springtide that will bring
the Walker of New Zealand first higher than anyone anticipates,
and it won't be due to any climate change Hyperbolely,
by the way.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Well look out any blind frog who gets in your
way because you're speaking at the investment summit and you're
very excited because you're going to get some international money
in to build new dams and dig new mines.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I can tell you what, mate. Last week I was
up in Toronto. I went to the major event up there,
twenty seven thirty thousand people spoke to a host of investors,
analysts and people who are already exposed to the Kiwi
mining industry. So it's a pleasure to come back and
talk this afternoon about the potential of our reinvigorated mining
(01:11):
and thermal sector.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
How much interest is there with offshore money for supposedly
dirty industries. I'm playing Devil's advocate here.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Well, there's ongoing interest to help reawaken our gas industry.
You know as well as I do. Last last winter
we had the highest power prices disgraceful here in New Zealand,
and we've seen the gent tailors more concerned about their
bottom line than the societal requirement for affordable, secure energy.
(01:45):
And every time I speak to the overseas investors, they
still love New Zealand, they accept their guard rails, but
they get very worried if our government was to be replaced,
are their investments safe? So part of what I've got
to do this afternoon is assure them that the New
Zealand economy, whilst it's open, property rights are essential and
(02:08):
contract law is sacricanct.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Are the previous governments shut down oil and gas exploration effectively.
But you've just found a new mature natural gas field
in Taranaki.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
We've also we also know that off the coast of
Raglan there is a significant field called Cardever, now that's
owned by Todd, and if Todd are to go ahead
and develop it, what role should the Crown take to
ensure that Todd and its future investors, who maybe from overseas,
(02:42):
have confidence that a change of government won't lead to
that being a stranded asset. So I've already put out
a press statement that we should explore whether or not
CO investment where the Crown takes a we share to
give confidence to the overseas people that if they spend
their money on rescuing our gas and because without gas
we rely on on Indonesian coal, without Indonesian cold, will
(03:04):
be burning a candle exactly.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Now, you're a man with a good sense of humor,
no doubt you will have seen the movie of the Castle?
Do you love it?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Of course I've seen it?
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Okay, so well let's go down a castle track here.
What's the vibe at the investment summit?
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Marbo?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Look? I think that when it started there was probably
a lot of less confusion but limited expectations. And after
a full day I've got to tell you mate. Full
marks to the Prime Minister, full marks to Nicola, full
marks to Chris Bishop they're the ones who really spoke
to the guts of the issue of infrastructure. And at
(03:46):
the end of the night, we had a big huli
last night at the museum. I don't know whether it's
in the shape of a castle, but people were visiting
at the boat. Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Now, Winston's continuing a war on woke, ably supported by
his loyal lieutenant, namely yourself, and he wants to end
the woke left wing social engineering and diversity targets, even
though some people in mainstream media, mainly the six o'clock Newspeople,
are getting stuck into you for having the said same
(04:17):
targets when it comes to selecting your candidates.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
No, our candidates, as you can see, are not driven
by any strange gender, any strange quotas that the Labor
Party popularized, which caused me to leave the Labor Party
when it turned into an identity factory. So these unfair
comparisons are driven by people who themselves are endangering their
(04:41):
own positions because they're not reporting the facts. New Zealand
First has always been a hearty, earthy people's movement, not
people determined by sociology professors and university.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I did ask dear Leeda Winston yesterday about his upbringing
in Northland, and it's well known that he came from
a humble rural upbringing and how did he get on
for school lunch? What about you? How did you get
on for school lunch? You don't look like you've missed
too many of them.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
No, last night Nadine Higgins was the lady who was
comparing our event last night at the Auckland Museum. And
she's very obviously pregnant. And last night when I got high,
I felt I was pregnant too. Was such a full
book of kai. But my dad was a Derek farmer
and Awui mom was a school teacher. Dad was one
of seventeen kids. I grew up with a grandmother a
(05:31):
long period of time and we had basic homemade bread.
There was always a lot of bit of a cold brisket.
Mary Peaches is what they were called in those days.
Wild Peaches was always tuck her from the farm. It
wasn't all that flash, but my and I think on
Wednesday the local deli, a fish and chip shop owner
(05:51):
used to come and bring fish and chips for those
of the families that had scraped enough pennies together. So
we came from the generation that we didn't work for
the government to serve out lunches.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Well, what do you make of these schools who say
they don't want lunches anymore for their kids? They're just ungrateful.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Well, not only are they ungrateful, it shows the politics,
the politics of the various unions that have penetrated the
education system having agenda against our colleague mister Seymour, and
I fear that the actual kids and their reliance on
the school lunches has now been commodified and turned into
(06:27):
an ideological scrap between the unions associated with the education
system and the leader of the ACT Party.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yeah, the nation feeding twenty seven percent of the kids
that go to school is ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Yeah, but I mean that was pushed by Jacinda. I
mean the notion that all of those kids. I mean, okay,
there's one hundred and seventy odd days when our kids
are at school. Who's feeding them on the other one
hundred and seventy odd days?
Speaker 1 (06:52):
A point well made. And just finally you mentioned to Cinda,
will you be reading her book? Will you be starring
in her book?
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Yes? I suspect there may be a few episodes where
she talks about the New Zealand First Connection, but unlikely
that I'll read her book, but that's up to Kiwis
to make that choice. I've never ever hid my feelings
about the damage that was done to New Zealand economy,
New Zealand society when Jacinda got out of control after
(07:22):
Winston and I had been booted out, and she was
given unfettered power, and all of the farmer's wives and
all of the people associated with your listenership who never
admit that they voted for Jacinda, it's on your head.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Change oaths. Thanks for some of your time today. Good
luck with your presentation at the Investment Summit of this afternoon.
Keep up the good work, dig it up, damn it up.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
See you mate. Bye.
Well, for two days in a row, we've had New
Zealand first on the country. Apologies to non New Zealand
First fans, it's just the way it turned out. Really.
Yesterday it was Deare Leader Winston. Today it's Martua Shane Jones,
the Prince of the Provinces, the Minister of digging it
up and damming it up. Hey, Shane, minds you at
five point one percent in the polls, you and Winston
need all the publicity you can get.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Well, we're waiting for the inevitable springtide that will bring
the Walker of New Zealand first higher than anyone anticipates,
and it won't be due to any climate change Hyperbolely,
by the way.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Well look out any blind frog who gets in your
way because you're speaking at the investment summit and you're
very excited because you're going to get some international money
in to build new dams and dig new mines.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I can tell you what, mate. Last week I was
up in Toronto. I went to the major event up there,
twenty seven thirty thousand people spoke to a host of investors,
analysts and people who are already exposed to the Kiwi
mining industry. So it's a pleasure to come back and
talk this afternoon about the potential of our reinvigorated mining
(01:11):
and thermal sector.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
How much interest is there with offshore money for supposedly
dirty industries. I'm playing Devil's advocate here.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Well, there's ongoing interest to help reawaken our gas industry.
You know as well as I do. Last last winter
we had the highest power prices disgraceful here in New Zealand,
and we've seen the gent tailors more concerned about their
bottom line than the societal requirement for affordable, secure energy.
(01:45):
And every time I speak to the overseas investors, they
still love New Zealand, they accept their guard rails, but
they get very worried if our government was to be replaced,
are their investments safe? So part of what I've got
to do this afternoon is assure them that the New
Zealand economy, whilst it's open, property rights are essential and
(02:08):
contract law is sacricanct.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Are the previous governments shut down oil and gas exploration effectively.
But you've just found a new mature natural gas field
in Taranaki.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
We've also we also know that off the coast of
Raglan there is a significant field called Cardever, now that's
owned by Todd, and if Todd are to go ahead
and develop it, what role should the Crown take to
ensure that Todd and its future investors, who maybe from overseas,
(02:42):
have confidence that a change of government won't lead to
that being a stranded asset. So I've already put out
a press statement that we should explore whether or not
CO investment where the Crown takes a we share to
give confidence to the overseas people that if they spend
their money on rescuing our gas and because without gas
we rely on on Indonesian coal, without Indonesian cold, will
(03:04):
be burning a candle exactly.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Now, you're a man with a good sense of humor,
no doubt you will have seen the movie of the Castle?
Do you love it?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Of course I've seen it?
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Okay, so well let's go down a castle track here.
What's the vibe at the investment summit?
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Marbo?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Look? I think that when it started there was probably
a lot of less confusion but limited expectations. And after
a full day I've got to tell you mate. Full
marks to the Prime Minister, full marks to Nicola, full
marks to Chris Bishop they're the ones who really spoke
to the guts of the issue of infrastructure. And at
(03:46):
the end of the night, we had a big huli
last night at the museum. I don't know whether it's
in the shape of a castle, but people were visiting
at the boat. Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Now, Winston's continuing a war on woke, ably supported by
his loyal lieutenant, namely yourself, and he wants to end
the woke left wing social engineering and diversity targets, even
though some people in mainstream media, mainly the six o'clock Newspeople,
are getting stuck into you for having the said same
(04:17):
targets when it comes to selecting your candidates.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
No, our candidates, as you can see, are not driven
by any strange gender, any strange quotas that the Labor
Party popularized, which caused me to leave the Labor Party
when it turned into an identity factory. So these unfair
comparisons are driven by people who themselves are endangering their
(04:41):
own positions because they're not reporting the facts. New Zealand
First has always been a hearty, earthy people's movement, not
people determined by sociology professors and university.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I did ask dear Leeda Winston yesterday about his upbringing
in Northland, and it's well known that he came from
a humble rural upbringing and how did he get on
for school lunch? What about you? How did you get
on for school lunch? You don't look like you've missed
too many of them.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
No, last night Nadine Higgins was the lady who was
comparing our event last night at the Auckland Museum. And
she's very obviously pregnant. And last night when I got high,
I felt I was pregnant too. Was such a full
book of kai. But my dad was a Derek farmer
and Awui mom was a school teacher. Dad was one
of seventeen kids. I grew up with a grandmother a
(05:31):
long period of time and we had basic homemade bread.
There was always a lot of bit of a cold brisket.
Mary Peaches is what they were called in those days.
Wild Peaches was always tuck her from the farm. It
wasn't all that flash, but my and I think on
Wednesday the local deli, a fish and chip shop owner
(05:51):
used to come and bring fish and chips for those
of the families that had scraped enough pennies together. So
we came from the generation that we didn't work for
the government to serve out lunches.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Well, what do you make of these schools who say
they don't want lunches anymore for their kids? They're just ungrateful.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Well, not only are they ungrateful, it shows the politics,
the politics of the various unions that have penetrated the
education system having agenda against our colleague mister Seymour, and
I fear that the actual kids and their reliance on
the school lunches has now been commodified and turned into
(06:27):
an ideological scrap between the unions associated with the education
system and the leader of the ACT Party.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yeah, the nation feeding twenty seven percent of the kids
that go to school is ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Yeah, but I mean that was pushed by Jacinda. I
mean the notion that all of those kids. I mean, okay,
there's one hundred and seventy odd days when our kids
are at school. Who's feeding them on the other one
hundred and seventy odd days?
Speaker 1 (06:52):
A point well made. And just finally you mentioned to Cinda,
will you be reading her book? Will you be starring
in her book?
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Yes? I suspect there may be a few episodes where
she talks about the New Zealand First Connection, but unlikely
that I'll read her book, but that's up to Kiwis
to make that choice. I've never ever hid my feelings
about the damage that was done to New Zealand economy,
New Zealand society when Jacinda got out of control after
(07:22):
Winston and I had been booted out, and she was
given unfettered power, and all of the farmer's wives and
all of the people associated with your listenership who never
admit that they voted for Jacinda, it's on your head.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Change oaths. Thanks for some of your time today. Good
luck with your presentation at the Investment Summit of this afternoon.
Keep up the good work, dig it up, damn it up.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
See you mate. Bye.
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