The Country 27/03/25: Andrew Hoggard talks to Jamie Mackay

The Associate Ag and Biosecurity Minister is also at Kirwee, where a key topic for discussion with farmers is whether we should pull out of the Paris Agreement.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Is this man a heavy rocker or is he shredding
on lettuce for lunch at the South Island field days
Andrew Hoggard, your predecessor, Katie Milne said, you're on a letus.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Died, Andrew, not that I've seen recently.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Have you seen Chippy? Are you anywhere near the f
Coat site? I think he's having Lamb chops for lunch.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
No, if I've got Lamb shops there, I'll head around
there shortly. Actually, yeah, so you know I've been on
our site and yeah, we'll go for lunch soon. Now.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Talking about Chippy, he did come out where is this here?
It is here, so he said. Every day Winston looks
more and more like an angry old man shouting at
the sky. Because there was talk a few weeks ago
in the media, probably a bit of a beat up,
that Chippy was looking to woo New Zealand first over
and if he got Winston he could get past the

(00:50):
post because God help us. Literally, Andrew hogguard of Chippy
wins and he's in with Tamitha Paul and Weary Ytt.
I mean they're not jobs.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah, well, I mean we heard all the stuff on
defund the police and stuff in Parliament yesterday along with
the last couple of days from the Greens talking about
how terrible it is to make a profit and I've
got no idea where you know, well, no, I do
have an idea where they get there orcon like ideas
from North Korea and Soviet Russia. But yeah, it's crazy stuff.

(01:27):
And you know we can't leave these guys near leavers
of Parrot or it would absolutely destroy this country.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
I absolutely agree with you right now. What are the
big issues because you're mixing these are a great opportunity
for you to network at the coal face with farmers.
I see talking about Winston again. He says, why are
we making a rod for our own backs being part
of the Paris Accord, punishing our farmers and our taxpayers
and our economy when China or the US could sneeze

(01:54):
and produce more CO two overnight than we do in
a year. So we know we're New Zealand. First stand,
where does the act Party stand on the Paris Accord?

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Well, actually, well, David said something very similar to you
a month and a bit back. I believe you know
where the reality is, the world's changing. We've got to
constantly re evaluate where we stand and what's in our
best interests. So you know, at the moment, well maybe
it is, maybe it isn't, but that's something we need

(02:24):
to reevaluate. Obviously, at the moment we're in a coalition
and this is the deal we're operating under. But you know,
for us, and I've always thought, you know, the problem
with the Paris Accord is they've got the sentence in
there around what is it, you know, lower emissions whilst
maintaining food production and it's only ever been paid lip
service to. And actually, you know, I think New Zealand

(02:44):
should be leading the charge on what does that actually
look like because when you think about that sentence, it
means about efficiency and that is what New Zealand does
so well. One of the most efficient producers of food
in the world. And you know, the world needs more
and more food, not less and less, and that means
we need to, you know, if you want to follow
through with the Paris Accord, we need to be producing

(03:05):
more food where it can be done more efficiently, and
that's New Zealand. So we need a system that recognizes
New Zealand's interests.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
I'd vote for that. Andrew Haggard. Now, so what are
the other What are the other That doesn't mean I'm
voting act of course, What are the other topics the
farmers are talking to you about?

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Obviously with the announcement around resource management the other day,
that's a big topic of interest here particularly you know
a lot of the challenges they have in Canterbury. So
I've been talking to a few people around what's in
the works, what may be changing, how will things be better?
And it's, yeah, a real key topic. And I think
you know, we've for so long in this country being

(03:45):
held back by the RIMA and basically a culture of
saying no and systems that are just in place that
just costs so much to move forward on anything. And
the whole purpose is reform is to try and get
stuff done, and it's going to be so important to
enabling this country to be the best little place in
the world, which is where we should be.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Absolutely all right, Andrew, thanks for some of your time.
I'll let you go and have some lunch. That's the thing,
the really big thing about field days. You can always
find somewhere to have lunch. And I'm a bit biased
because I always end up making paying a visit to
Afco at Mystery Creek. I think they do the best
lunch at Mystery Creek, so maybe maybe head along there

(04:29):
and if Chippy's left some chops, you fill your chops
well do Okay, see you later. Andrew Hogard dar there
is Minister of Associate ad Minister and Minister of Biosecurity.