April 8, 2025 • 38 mins
Rowena Duncum talks to Christopher Luxon, Rebecca Wilson, Todd Charteris, and Kelly Wilson.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's the Country
Podcast with Jamie McKay. Thanks to Brent. You're specialist in
John Deere construction equipment.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Oh I wanter get away, yeah, wanter get away Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Well, a very good afternoon New Zealand to welcome into
the country. Bit of Lenny Kravitz to kick us off,
courtesy of Andy Duff producing the show out about Auckland
Studios today. Well done, Andy, A song that I actually
recognize today. Enjoying it right. We've got a lot to
get through today. Prime Minister Christopher Luxen caught up with
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him earlier this morning. He about to push play on
that one. Rebecca Wilson. We've got a couple of Wilson
girls making their debut on the Country today. Not related, well,
not that I know of. Rebecca Wilson is the first one.
She's a UK farming influencer, but she's also a fifth
generation arable and sheep farmer from North Yorkshire. But she
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doesn't have that quintessential Yorkshire accent anyway. Caught up with
her also a week at this morning. Obviously the time difference.
She's hopefully sound asleep right now, but she's absolutely brilliant
and I seriously hope Jamie keeps chatting to her on
a regular banks as you are going to love her.
She is up for very shortly. We've also got Kelly
Wilson on the show before one o'clock the kimanoa wild
(01:42):
horsemuster who is taking place a lengthter this month. We
preview that with a very experienced horsewoman and someone who's
had a lot to do with kimonaas in the past,
and Kelly Todd charteris Rabobanks CEO. We're looking at tariffs,
the OCA, how commodity prices are faring as well, and
we're going to catch up with Jamie mackay live from
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Side to the South Island Dairy Event day two in
Timidu today. But first we're going to do something a
little different because Jamie's not here and because we can,
We're actually going to play the rural news sting for you.
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Speaker 3 (02:26):
Now, I was a little gutted to find out about
this just recently. I didn't manage to chat to the
Prime Minister about it at half past seven this morning
because I didn't know about it at half past seven
this morning. But I'm certainly not gutted about this news.
This is breaking news of the best kind. Yes, the
government is making mostly mandatory for new government buildings to
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use woolen carpets and insulation about damn time. It is
part of the New Zealand Fist National Coalition Agreement. Leader
Winston Peters is already calling it a win. So from July,
all new government builds buildings worth more than nine million
dollars must prioritize using will key we will where possible.
The same rule applies to all government refurbishments worth more
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than one hundred thousand dollars. Now, the moves designed to
provide a leg up for key we will produces. It
does not mean every building and every refurbishment will include it,
and there are still some parameters around it. But this
is a win for our key we will produces. It's
actually they're in black and white now, It's more than
just a promise, this is actually something they have to consider.
(03:31):
Fantastic news, right, Let's hear from the Prime Minister. It
is ten after twelve the country un.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Three hum through the country with Rowena Duncan thanks to
brand stockist of the leading agriculture brands.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
As he does every Wednesday. We're honored for the Prime
Minister of New Zealand, Christopher Luxen to join us.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Hello, how are you Rowen? We're talking with you. It's
always good change from Jamie, right, so it works great
when you're in chudge. Oh thank you.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Yeah, I get that from a lot of people like
oh Jamie hoo, no jes exactly. A very big few
weeks for you, obviously on the tariff front. Just this
morning we saw Elon Musk come out overnight calling Trump's
main guy, Moron. That's the lowest development. Do you think
that's going to inflame the situation or did it kind
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of need to be seed?
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Well, I think the first thing is we just need
a call, calm, collected sort of response from New Zealand
to what we're seeing. The reality is that you know,
personally and as a country, and you know, we just
don't support tariffs and we just don't think the trade
wars are the way for you know, what the global
economy needs is real certainty not uncertainty and instability because
it has huge ramifications on the global growth agenda. The
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reality is, yes, we've taken the lowest level of tariffs
and so no country is better off than us at
this point in time. We don't think the ten percent
is appropriate. Will continue to make our case to the
American officials as we have been doing and have been
doing subsequently. But the reality is many of the exports
that I talk to believe that their relative competitiveness are
going into the US. The size of that market, the
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opportunities in that market are still very very strong for them.
But the bigger implication is, frankly, what this means for
the global economy, because there are countries that have much
higher tower freights up to forty forty five percent in
some cases going into the US. And what it means
is that the US consumer is going to be slugged
with a massive increase in costs and prices, and so
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inflation will go up, interest rates may have to go up,
and then the economy will slow. And the consequence of
all of that will be there'll be less global demand,
less global growth. And that's what is the uncertain part
that could impact the broad and usingland economy and all
of that. There are opportunities as much as also some challenges,
and the key thing is we've got to keep going
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and driving our own growth agenda. And that's why you've
seen Todd McClay and I out and about in the world.
That's why, as in India kicking off the free trade
and negotiations, that's why we've dropped the deal done with
the UAE and the GCC. We pulled forward the season
the EU the EU FDA last year and as in
Vietnam getting an upgrade to the Comprehensive Strategic Partnership. All
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of that work over the last sixteen months is designed
so that we can sell more of our products to
more countries around the world. And actually our products are
in huge demand, so I think compared to the other
one hundred and ninety five countries in the world, in
New Zealand is incredibly well positioned to navigate it. But
it just requires very good steerage as we navigate our
boat through some choppyr waters.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Obviously, on the positive siding you touched on this and
passing the UAE deal is due to be ratified this week.
It's good to have a.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
One yeah, Look, I mean that deal is exciting on
two fronts, to be honest. One is yes, the UAE
and then the subsequent GCC deal and that part of
the world with those coalition of countries coming together and
those deals is important from it for our exporters point
of view. And there is huge demand for particularly New
Zealand food and beverage in those markets and I visited
there earlier in the year. But the other part that's
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interesting is the is actually we signed a bilateral investment treaty.
And if you think about a place like the UAE,
the capital is Abudabi. It is called the capital of Capital.
You know there they have up to three trillion dollars
New Zealand just in three investment funds, and none of
that money is sitting here invested in New Zealand. And
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that's why I held the infrastructure some it before I
went to India, was to turn global investors onto the
opportunities that are here. We want to build more schools,
we want to build more hospitals, we want to build
more roads. We need to get more infrastructure built in
this country. And one of the ways we can do
that quicker, faster, rather than waiting for the government to
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be able to afford it in twenty seventy or whatever,
as we can pull that forward if we partner with
capital from overseas and so you know, we get the
capital obviously coming into the country and working with the
government money to actually get things built much faster. So
you know, that's partly quite exciting too, is the opportunity
now to know one of the few countries that has
a bilateral investment treaty which essentially gives permission for investments
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like that to come to New Zealand. And that's what
we want to see more of.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
I've been traveling a lot lately. We've still got connectivity
black spots across the country, even on State Highway one.
What's the latest on improving rural broadband and cell coverage
in those rural areas.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Yeah, I experience it too because I'm obviously traveling a
bit on the network as well, and there are a
surprising a when you hit black spots, you know, or
it just disrupts your calls and connectivity. So look, we've
got to keep working really hard at that because we
need much more reliable and resilient telecommunication networks. It's critical
for growing our economy. It's critical for times of emergency.
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It has improved a lot, like one of the data
than where it was even just a few years ago.
But of course you feel it when you experience it.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Oh there's a lot of come ons from the car.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Yeah, no, exactly, no, exactly, I'm in the same place.
I say the same things, even few worse things. But
what I say is that Paul Godsmith, I know he
is working really are hard that he understands that. Know
the r we're continuing network on the Rural Broadband and
Mobile black Spots program. I know he just opened I
think the five hundredth RCG to mobile tower and the
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way Tacklie ranges just recently as well. So you're going
to continue doing more of that. But yeah, we've got
more to do. He's also announced in March, I think
it was just last month. I'm actually a suite of
regulatory changes to sort of help stimulate more competition amongst
the sector, encouraging them to sort of move further into
rural areas where there are black spots in poor services.
So yep, I think that's a very fair point. There's
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a lot more to do. The programs are continuing, but
we've got to keep making much more progress.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
It is less than two weeks away. I must say,
by my last count, I've probably eaten about seven eggs
ahead of time. What's your count? Are you a sucker
for chocolate?
Speaker 5 (09:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (09:49):
Absolutely?
Speaker 4 (09:50):
In fact, yeah, no I am.
Speaker 7 (09:52):
I love a.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Good No, I'm pretty basic because it's sort of what
I had as a kid was that it was a pretty
great treat to get a marshmallow egg and then the
cream eggs.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
I sort of quite like as well.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
If I could get my hand on one of those
or a couple of those would be very helpful. But yeah,
pretty difficult in my house. Actually, Amanda keeps a pretty
tight grip on the flow of chocolate in an out.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Of the place. I need an Amanda myself.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Yeah, between myself and the kids, we sort of have
surreptitious ways and the stashes hidden all over the place
and yeah, which some of us know about and some
of us pretend we don't know about and utilize from
time to time. But no, yeah, so no, the bog
standard marshmallow egg and maybe as a bit of a treat,
the cream egg. An unhappy chappie.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
There you go to. It's a fantastic Prime Minister of
New Zealand, Christopher Luxeon, appreciate your time, is always nice
to chat.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Likewise, Rowen, you have a great week. Take care you two.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
It is seventeen after twelve. You are worth the country.
Don't at me. That was recorded at half mile seven
this morning. I'd basically only just woken up. I have
no idea how I digressed to chocolate at that time
of the morning, and now hearing it back, I'm hungry.
If you get me on that five double O nine.
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dot NZID and enter Up next Rebecca Wilson. We're off
to the UK to chat to someone who honestly blows
my socks off. She is pretty amazing and very well spoken,
and I think, yeah, she's going to be a great
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name to watch for the future and agriculture. She's up
next here on the Country she Urban nor the stores
you move in Harry Mary bummy slow, get off firm.
We'll back with the country. I'm Rowena Duncan and for
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Jmie Mackay and today we're crossing hemispheres for a bit
of a farming catch up. I'm thrilled to be joined
by one of the UK's rising stars in the agric
influencer world, Rebecca Wilson. She's a farmer, a passionate advocate
for rural life, and she's built up a mess of
following by sharing the real, raw and often hilarious side
of life on the land, from sheep dogs to silage.
(12:12):
She's putting British farming on the map in the digital world. Rebecca,
welcome to the show. Thank you so much for your time.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Well, thank you so much for having me in And
what's a welcome really? And I guess the social media
side of farming is is something which is I guess
just building a real amount of traction in the UK
but across the world probably as people get more and
more interested in farming and where their food comes from.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Now, you've just been named in the prestigious list of
the most influential young people under thirty in the UK,
alongside the likes of Caleb Cooper from Clarkson's Farm, who
I absolutely adore as well. How does that happen for
a fifth generation arable sheep farmer from North York.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
Well, it's a good question. I don't actually know the
answer because when I was first contacted was it was
completely out of the blue. But as I said, I
it's I think it's all about farming getting a place
on the map in mainstream media in a way that
perhaps we haven't seen, you know, in you know, ten
years ago or twenty years ago, and social media and
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programs like Clarkson's Farmer are making should we say farming,
I don't want to say making farming sexy, but I
think that's what's happening. And I'm so proud to be
part of an industry where and it's the same for
farmers across the world. We're striving, you know, in animal welfare,
we're striving to be as sustainable as possible. I mean,
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we're definitely up against it, you know, in the financial
element and making our businesses profitable. But people want to
know where their food comes from and to hear it
from the horse's mouth, to hear it from the people
who are on the ground actually looking after those animals,
actually sitting on tractors and looking after crops. I think
it's brilliant. And then yeah, I'm so proud to.
Speaker 6 (14:07):
Be a part of it.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Now you've actually got quite a rural pew degree and
you have done a lot of work and university space
in this. Just actually go back and steep and tell
us a bit about your background.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
So you're right, what kind of varied and it's probably
not that well trodden for people who perhaps have a
farm in the family, because I was very much encouraged
to go away and do something different, perhaps learn something
beyond the farming industry. And well I'm twenty nine now,
so going back to when you're making the decisions of university,
you know, it's over ten years ago and I actually
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went off to the University of Cambridge and I studied
for my undergraduate in human social and political sciences, so
completely unrelated to farming. But I think looking back, that
was almost the first exp bosure for me to people
who really haven't grown up in the countryside at all.
And you know, interesting in conversations, but actually people were
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interested in farming to some extent, but nowhere near now,
you know, the conversations now have been sparked so much
by what people see line you know, Instagram and other platforms.
But I did decide that I wanted to go back
into something agricultural after their undergraduate so I did study
for Masters at the Royal Agricultural University and that was
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in land management and that got me back, I guess
to probably where I was always going to go to
end up. I did a job as a Royal surveyor,
I did a job as a project manager in the
poultry sector, and then due to actually family illness, I
came back to the farm full time four years ago.
And I mean it's a bit cliche to say, but
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I've never really looked back and I'm so grateful to
be doing the job I'm doing now.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Obviously, there's been a lot of talk coming out of
the UK around the Labor Government's inheritance text as a
fifth generation on the family farm. You know, what is
the implication for you? Where do you stand on the matter.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
Gosh, well, it's been it's been such a turbulent time
and I know that across well, across the world in general,
it's quite a scary time with conflicts. You know that
geopolitical landscape, but.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
To bring it back home.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
When the inheritance tax changes were first announced, and of
course if people don't know, farming property got a relief.
We were exempt from inheritance tax, which that was basically
our succession planning. The fact that we could pass farmland
down to the next generation almost protected the farm and
insulated us when actually we haven't been that profitable. There
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hasn't been that cash in the business to pay you know,
bills of well for us on the farm at home,
we'd be looking at a million pounds inheritance tax bill,
which is just eyewatering to think that that's on your shoulders.
So when all the news came out, I mean, we've
we've had all emotions across the industry, devastation, anger, frustration,
and I've been pretty vocal about it, both on my
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social media, but also any opportunity that I've had, perhaps
to speak to mainstream media, on the news, on the telly,
I've also taken those opportunities. I think farmers are worried
because it feels like an anti farming agenda in general.
It feels like the government is not prioritizing food production,
and for me, you know, food security is national security.
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It's a phrase which has been used before, but I
think also for farmers and generational farmers and family farmers,
but you know, even new entrants and first generation farmers.
It feels like we could lose that connection to a
landscape which is based on producing food. It's based on
the habitats we create alongside food, and if we lose that,
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we really do lose that. For Reveren, there's been many
promises is broken by the government, and I think farmers
need stability like any business, we need stability to have
confidence for the future. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Yeah, I can't believe or begin to imagine what you're
going through over the Ribecca. I could talk to you
all day, but unfortunately we're only a one hour radio
show before I let you go, and I'm hoping Jamie
McKay will check to you regularly so we can get
to know more about your farming operation and your place
in the influenza world in the UK. Just finally New
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Zealand coming over here to visit, coming over here to farm.
Is it on your back at list at all?
Speaker 5 (18:37):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (18:38):
Do you know what?
Speaker 5 (18:38):
I absolutely wish I'd done it after university and any
of your listeners who are farming, they know how hard
it is to get that time away. I'd absolutely love
to go. And my fiance has just been. He's in
the military and he was over for a few months
in well Burnham and he had an absolutely amazing time
and he'd call me and say I've seen this bit
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of kit in the fields or I've been.
Speaker 6 (19:02):
To this place.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
So he's made me even more keen to visit and
I'd absolutely love to. I've just got to sweet talk
my parents.
Speaker 6 (19:09):
For a bit of time off.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Yeah, yeah, always the hardest part of farming. I was
really lucky. I managed to spend a carving in Ireland
and then a season in Wales and absolutely loved it.
But again it was just when we were starting out
at farming careers, so that was the only time really
to be able to do that. Rebecca Wilson, UK farmer
and influencer, really appreciate your time making your debut on
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the country. As I say, I've love chatting to you
and I hope we get to chat again soon.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Oh my absolute pleasure. Isn't she amazing? Absolutely amazing?
Speaker 6 (19:44):
Right?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Five?
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Double oh nine? If you want to fire me some
feedback up. Next, we are going to look at commodity
prices and also tariffs and preview this afternoon's OCR with
the CEO of Rabobank, Todd Charter. Us here on the
country rather thanks CEO Todd Charter has joins me now
(20:19):
on the country. Good afternoon, Todd, very well, thank you.
I imagine it's been an interesting time for you in
the world of economics and finance with the tariff talks recently.
What are you seeing from your industry and your perspective.
Speaker 8 (20:36):
Look, first of all, I mean huge volatility in a
fair amount of uncertainty in the markets, that's for sure.
Global financial markets have been a bit all over the place.
We've seen that in equity markets, exchange rates, interest rates
in different markets as well. So just a lot of volatility.
I mean, I think from our perspective when it comes
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to food in New Zealand's position, I think I think
will be okay. But it's to me there's sill a
lot of our certain deer and some of those secondary
factors which we get to see play out and just
wear this, you know, I mean, clearly it's it's not over.
I mean there's a lot going on every day, So
we're just monitoring it as closely as we can.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
And I know key we savor is not a massive
thing in farming in terms of being a priority like
it is for the rest of us who work in
officers Todd and as I mentioned with the Prime Minister,
that's just not worth looking at it the moment.
Speaker 8 (21:29):
No, that's right, and most people don't look at it anyway,
so it's not a good time to start. So it's
a long term place that are seeing in there.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Absolutely. Rabobank CA is released. It's new Zealand Angry Business
Monthly Report. Let's look through some of the commodities, starting
with dairy. Global milk supply rising in most export regions.
Speaker 8 (21:53):
Yeah, that's what we're seeing. I mean, I think you know,
there's there's still quite a bit of upside here for us.
I think think interestingly what we are seeing in one
of the markets is just that herd reduction in China,
So it's going to be interesting to see what that
does to that particular market, which is obviously important for us.
But you know, the fundamentals are looking looking strong, so
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I think the outlook for dairy continues to look really
good and obviously enjoying really good prices now, but you know,
prices out into the future look strong as well.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Bease and sheepmate doing pretty well, but obviously one of
the big ones to look at what the impact of
the tariffs will be.
Speaker 8 (22:36):
Yeah, certainly, beef has been very strong, you know, I
think it's in the range of thirty five to forty
five percent above the five year average for domestic markets here,
which is great for producers. Sheep meat, we've seen a
bit strong improvement which is needed, a huge, hugely welcome
after the last couple of years that's been incredibly tough.
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So you know, that looks strong for both of those
commodities as well, which is good and again, as you say,
just just pure supply of un fundamentals, particularly when it
comes to be.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Yeah, in terms of farm inputs. We chatted about this
with our US Farming correspondent Todd Clark on yesterday's show.
He had seen, you know, prices coming back quite a bit,
but then uncertainty starting to bite away bit.
Speaker 6 (23:22):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 8 (23:23):
I mean the big movie there's been the your air prices,
which which I hadn't been across really, but reading the
update that we've put out I mean, it's a mess
of nearly thirteen percent reduction in your air prices, so
they will certainly be welcome on farm as an input cost.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Yeah, interest rates and foreign exchange. Obviously, we've got an
OCR announcement coming through at two o'clock this afternoon here
in New Zealand. Where's that kind of sitting for you guys?
Speaker 8 (23:53):
Well, I think it's interesting. I mean, we certainly were
picking twenty five basis point cut today. There's a little
bit of commentary that you know where that might end up.
But you know, we're still thinking two more cuts, may
be a third, but I mean, who knows. There's a
lot of volatility out there, so you know, we'll just
wait and see. And you know, I think the tone
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of the announcement or the comments at two o'clock will
be important to give us a steera where that might
go in the future.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Indeed, finally one for you oil and freight. What's looking
What is it looking like in this area?
Speaker 8 (24:28):
I look pretty stable, I think, I think, you know, again,
just the sort of trade implications out of the US.
I think shipping is going to becoming an interesting topic.
I think, you know, the US is certainly pretty keen
to control more of it, sort of shipping lanes and
things like that, and where the price sings up and
(24:49):
where that price is born I guess by what's part
of the market. So I think that's one to watch
and keeping on. But yeah, at pump prices, we've seen
few prices come down here, so just again it just
highlights that volatility. It's all over the place.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Let's finish on a high tide. You've had a phenomenal
response for your Rabbo Community Hub competition.
Speaker 8 (25:12):
Yeah, it's been awesome. It's been great to see and
been really good and super proud of the team for
pulling it together. We went out to the market to
get twenty twenty winners from community hubs across New Zealand
and we've had a staggering I think there's been well
I know, there's been more than five hundred entries, which
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is high watering stuff and just highlights the demand that's
out there. So, as I've said previously, so it's closed
now and the team's doing the hard work of going
through those five hundred entries, and then each of our
client councils. We've got four client councilors across the country
they will be selecting five each for their regions and
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for this year, but that's hopefully it's something that we
can continue into the few because the demand is there
and so we need to find a way to support
those community helps ride up and down the countryside. And
I'm not sure when it's going to be announced rowing
it just because of the quantum that they get getting through,
but I'm told it will be the sometime this month,
so look forward to that.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
My goodness, I don't envy them that job. I hope
you're feeding them lots of Easter eggs tied to keep
them going.
Speaker 8 (26:22):
Yeah, it's a big job, but they'll do it well
and there'll be some great winners in there, and you'll
be hopefully smart as we can.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Supports absolutely Todd chatters rather thanks CEO. Pleasure is always
to chat to you. Thanks Roy, my pleasure. Twenty two
away from One Up Next. We did rural News at
the beginning of the show, but we'll just touch on
that amazing story about Will next Sports News with Andy
Duff in our Auckland studios before the end of the
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our Kelly Wilson ahead of this month, Kai Manawah Muster,
how are we video sent to me by my spies
at side Timoru Jamie McKay behaving a bit more like
a university student than a man of sixty five. We
will ask him about that just before one Here on
the Country, nineteen away from one. You are with the Country,
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for your government buildings to use woolen carpets and insulation.
The Prince of the province is Shane Joan on the
show tomorrow, no doubt he'll have a lot to say
about that matter. And look, this was part of the
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Fantastic news. Here's Andy duff Wood Sport Sport.
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have signed a brand new broadcast deal with Channel nine.
As I said, ten million dollars a year more than
their current contract, which is massive. The extension, which takes
the partnership through to twenty thirty, includes twenty five million
dollars of performance bonuses if and if only the Wallabies
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and sup Rugby teams win trophies. Highland's Flankashawn with He
has been suspended for three games reduced to two if
he completes tackle school properly for a sliding knee and
the Super Rugby loss to the fourth last Saturday. And
in the Champions League quarter final, football Action and hosts
Arsenal have stunned Real Madrid three nil and visitors into
Milan have triumphed two one over By in Munich. Those
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Next Jamie Mackay before the end of the hour, answering
a question about his behavior last night, welcome back to
the country. Well, they wild, iconic and deeply woven into
the heart of the Kaimunahwa Rangers. But every few years
many of these horses are rounded up in a pro
(31:00):
that's as controversial as it is necessary. This month marks
another Kaimuna wild Horse muster, so we're taking a closer
look at what really happens and why. Joining me now
is Kelly Wilson, founding board member of Kaimunoa Legacy Foundation
and experienced horsewoman in her own right. Hello Kelly, Welcome
(31:20):
into the show.
Speaker 7 (31:22):
Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
My absolute pleasure. Look, give us a bit of a
rundown on what the Kaimunoa wild horse muster is and
why it's so necessary.
Speaker 7 (31:33):
So the wild population is managed by the Department of
Conservation at about three to four hundred horses, and that's
really important for the ecosystem and also for the health
of the horses. Since musters started taking place, the horses
are generally bigger, healthier and able to transition really well
to domestication. But to do that, obviously, it's either colling
(31:58):
the herd or we home in. So we work alongside
come on our heritage horses to encourage adopters and get
people to step up and offer these horses a second
chance at life.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
How many horses are we talking here, Kelly, because it's
more than just a handful kind of every year.
Speaker 8 (32:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (32:17):
So the herd is currently at six hundred and seventy
nine So doc have said they're happy with four hundred
men left in the wild, which is quite a big deal.
Often in the past it's reduced to three hundred. So
they're looking for two hundred and seventy nine homes, which
is the largest master since twenty eighteen, when three hundred
horses came out.
Speaker 6 (32:37):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
And as we're saying, that's more than just a handful.
You are looking to support people who adopt the horses.
How easy are they or how challenging are they to
turn from a wild horse into a domesticated horse.
Speaker 7 (32:54):
So people have the opportunity to take horses directly from
the wild if they had the time, experience and facil is. Otherwise,
they can go through an improved trainer who has experienced
with wild horses and all the requiety yards. So if
you've gone through a trainer, generally within forty ten weeks,
these horses are better handle the most domestic young stock.
They're being called in the paddock, leading, loading on trucks
(33:17):
and trailers and able to make the journey to your property,
whether that's in the North Island or the Staff Island.
So they do transition incredibly well, and it really comes
down to investing into them and leaving them have that
chance to shine.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Yeah, and there's a lot of support on that front
as well.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (33:39):
So as part of our foundation, we offer subsidies and
do lots of public crowdfunding. We have a comeu and
One auction which is launching on our Facebook page tomorrow,
and that's one of our big fundraising initiatives to be
able to provide potential owners with a thousand dollars subsidy
to help them with the training costs if they need
to enlist the house of the trainer.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Now you're speaking from experience when you say they do
transition really well, how many do you estimate you've broken
in of these commnual horses and your time, Kelly.
Speaker 7 (34:12):
So, we first got involved in twenty twelve alongside my
sister's vicin Amanda, and then obviously we had our TV
show Keeping Up with a Come On I was in
twenty and fourteen and since then I've taken you up
to twenty six from every musters, so well over one hundred,
one hundred and fifty coman our horses now and this year,
because of the desperate need, I think we've only got
about one hundred applications so far and obviously one hundred
(34:36):
and seventy nine horses still facing an uncertain state. So
we're going to have fifty horses arrive at my property
in two two and a half weeks and potentially opening
up a maximum of one hundred spots to be able
to save as many as possible.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Well, obviously it's something that really resonates strongly with you.
Speaker 6 (34:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (34:57):
I've been documenting and recording the mana I heard for
over a decade and extensively for the past five years
as part of the wild Comanoa Field Guide Database project,
which documents every horse in the wild. So I know
them all personally. I know their lineage, who their parents are,
how old they are. I've watched them grow up, become bachelors,
fight for a herd of their own, so it is
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it is very personal and I feel very invested.
Speaker 6 (35:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Absolutely, look for farmers who might be looking for a
horse around the farm. Now, would they make a good
stock work course, a good mustering horse in the.
Speaker 7 (35:31):
South, Yeah, So they're really verstile and good for everything
generally in this part of the mountain. These horses are
sort of ranging from fourteen to fifteen hands, so some
can be big enough for adults for muster and stock work.
A lot of them are really ideal as tony couble
rounders and competition horses or trekking and pleasure ponies. So
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Kamanowas have gone on to be top Grandfrey show jumpers.
You know, stock horses Western horses and also really top
level show hundred dressage. You know, pretty much any discipline
you know Carmanawas has been showcased at top level.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Fantastic. Hey, Kelly Wilson, experienced horsewomen and part of the
Komunua Legacy Foundation. Look, thank you so much for your
time today and going through all of that and all
the best for the muster. I hope you don't have
to take in between fifty and one hundred horses and
we find some more homes for them, but I know
they'll be in good hands no matter what. Thanks so
(36:27):
much for your time.
Speaker 7 (36:28):
Well, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Time.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
It is five away from at one of wrapping the
country with the actual houset of the country, Jamie McKay,
Day two of the Side South Island Airy Event Conference
and Tamaru Jamie, two words for you. Fireball shots.
Speaker 6 (36:48):
Yes, happened last night at the annual side dinner. Yeah yeah, yeah,
we had to do it when in Rome. But it's
been really good. It's been a great conference. I must say,
I'm very impressed by Timaru or Timur as a town.
I've been most impressed.
Speaker 9 (37:03):
Anyhow.
Speaker 6 (37:03):
Hey, look, I know we're out of time and I
was going to be chatting to doctor Allen Ford today
on the show, but she had to catch a plane.
I'm going to try and get her on later this week.
She was a real kick. Ask Gift, She's amazing, Meka,
she is amazing and what an entertainer. And I just
sat through and you know how I'm a bit of
a finance geek and I just set through a finance workshop.
(37:25):
I chose that over the masstitis workshop by the way
Row and it was absolutely fantastic. And we're going to
wrap the South Island Air event with our old mate
Sam Owen, who was kind of the motivational speaker on
the rural mental health and all that sort of stuff
to wrap the show. So he's finishing it off at
about four o'clock this afternoon. Then it's into the Highlux
(37:46):
Hybrid Row and back to Donner's for the show tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
Well I'm glad you did the fire ball shots last night, Jamie,
not today to wrap the conference. Hey, thanks for trusting
me for two days and your seat and welcome back
tomorrow with the Prince of the Provinces talk looking forward
to it. Hi, thanks everyone for your company these last
two days. Take care and enjoy yourselves today catch.
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Oh I wanter get away, yeah, wanter get away Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Well, a very good afternoon New Zealand to welcome into
the country. Bit of Lenny Kravitz to kick us off,
courtesy of Andy Duff producing the show out about Auckland
Studios today. Well done, Andy, A song that I actually
recognize today. Enjoying it right. We've got a lot to
get through today. Prime Minister Christopher Luxen caught up with
(00:58):
him earlier this morning. He about to push play on
that one. Rebecca Wilson. We've got a couple of Wilson
girls making their debut on the Country today. Not related, well,
not that I know of. Rebecca Wilson is the first one.
She's a UK farming influencer, but she's also a fifth
generation arable and sheep farmer from North Yorkshire. But she
(01:19):
doesn't have that quintessential Yorkshire accent anyway. Caught up with
her also a week at this morning. Obviously the time difference.
She's hopefully sound asleep right now, but she's absolutely brilliant
and I seriously hope Jamie keeps chatting to her on
a regular banks as you are going to love her.
She is up for very shortly. We've also got Kelly
Wilson on the show before one o'clock the kimanoa wild
(01:42):
horsemuster who is taking place a lengthter this month. We
preview that with a very experienced horsewoman and someone who's
had a lot to do with kimonaas in the past,
and Kelly Todd charteris Rabobanks CEO. We're looking at tariffs,
the OCA, how commodity prices are faring as well, and
we're going to catch up with Jamie mackay live from
(02:03):
Side to the South Island Dairy Event day two in
Timidu today. But first we're going to do something a
little different because Jamie's not here and because we can,
We're actually going to play the rural news sting for you.
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Speaker 3 (02:26):
Now, I was a little gutted to find out about
this just recently. I didn't manage to chat to the
Prime Minister about it at half past seven this morning
because I didn't know about it at half past seven
this morning. But I'm certainly not gutted about this news.
This is breaking news of the best kind. Yes, the
government is making mostly mandatory for new government buildings to
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use woolen carpets and insulation about damn time. It is
part of the New Zealand Fist National Coalition Agreement. Leader
Winston Peters is already calling it a win. So from July,
all new government builds buildings worth more than nine million
dollars must prioritize using will key we will where possible.
The same rule applies to all government refurbishments worth more
(03:10):
than one hundred thousand dollars. Now, the moves designed to
provide a leg up for key we will produces. It
does not mean every building and every refurbishment will include it,
and there are still some parameters around it. But this
is a win for our key we will produces. It's
actually they're in black and white now, It's more than
just a promise, this is actually something they have to consider.
(03:31):
Fantastic news, right, Let's hear from the Prime Minister. It
is ten after twelve the country un.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Three hum through the country with Rowena Duncan thanks to
brand stockist of the leading agriculture brands.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
As he does every Wednesday. We're honored for the Prime
Minister of New Zealand, Christopher Luxen to join us.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Hello, how are you Rowen? We're talking with you. It's
always good change from Jamie, right, so it works great
when you're in chudge. Oh thank you.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Yeah, I get that from a lot of people like
oh Jamie hoo, no jes exactly. A very big few
weeks for you, obviously on the tariff front. Just this
morning we saw Elon Musk come out overnight calling Trump's
main guy, Moron. That's the lowest development. Do you think
that's going to inflame the situation or did it kind
(04:19):
of need to be seed?
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Well, I think the first thing is we just need
a call, calm, collected sort of response from New Zealand
to what we're seeing. The reality is that you know,
personally and as a country, and you know, we just
don't support tariffs and we just don't think the trade
wars are the way for you know, what the global
economy needs is real certainty not uncertainty and instability because
it has huge ramifications on the global growth agenda. The
(04:45):
reality is, yes, we've taken the lowest level of tariffs
and so no country is better off than us at
this point in time. We don't think the ten percent
is appropriate. Will continue to make our case to the
American officials as we have been doing and have been
doing subsequently. But the reality is many of the exports
that I talk to believe that their relative competitiveness are
going into the US. The size of that market, the
(05:07):
opportunities in that market are still very very strong for them.
But the bigger implication is, frankly, what this means for
the global economy, because there are countries that have much
higher tower freights up to forty forty five percent in
some cases going into the US. And what it means
is that the US consumer is going to be slugged
with a massive increase in costs and prices, and so
(05:27):
inflation will go up, interest rates may have to go up,
and then the economy will slow. And the consequence of
all of that will be there'll be less global demand,
less global growth. And that's what is the uncertain part
that could impact the broad and usingland economy and all
of that. There are opportunities as much as also some challenges,
and the key thing is we've got to keep going
(05:48):
and driving our own growth agenda. And that's why you've
seen Todd McClay and I out and about in the world.
That's why, as in India kicking off the free trade
and negotiations, that's why we've dropped the deal done with
the UAE and the GCC. We pulled forward the season
the EU the EU FDA last year and as in
Vietnam getting an upgrade to the Comprehensive Strategic Partnership. All
(06:09):
of that work over the last sixteen months is designed
so that we can sell more of our products to
more countries around the world. And actually our products are
in huge demand, so I think compared to the other
one hundred and ninety five countries in the world, in
New Zealand is incredibly well positioned to navigate it. But
it just requires very good steerage as we navigate our
boat through some choppyr waters.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Obviously, on the positive siding you touched on this and
passing the UAE deal is due to be ratified this week.
It's good to have a.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
One yeah, Look, I mean that deal is exciting on
two fronts, to be honest. One is yes, the UAE
and then the subsequent GCC deal and that part of
the world with those coalition of countries coming together and
those deals is important from it for our exporters point
of view. And there is huge demand for particularly New
Zealand food and beverage in those markets and I visited
there earlier in the year. But the other part that's
(06:58):
interesting is the is actually we signed a bilateral investment treaty.
And if you think about a place like the UAE,
the capital is Abudabi. It is called the capital of Capital.
You know there they have up to three trillion dollars
New Zealand just in three investment funds, and none of
that money is sitting here invested in New Zealand. And
(07:18):
that's why I held the infrastructure some it before I
went to India, was to turn global investors onto the
opportunities that are here. We want to build more schools,
we want to build more hospitals, we want to build
more roads. We need to get more infrastructure built in
this country. And one of the ways we can do
that quicker, faster, rather than waiting for the government to
(07:38):
be able to afford it in twenty seventy or whatever,
as we can pull that forward if we partner with
capital from overseas and so you know, we get the
capital obviously coming into the country and working with the
government money to actually get things built much faster. So
you know, that's partly quite exciting too, is the opportunity
now to know one of the few countries that has
a bilateral investment treaty which essentially gives permission for investments
(08:01):
like that to come to New Zealand. And that's what
we want to see more of.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
I've been traveling a lot lately. We've still got connectivity
black spots across the country, even on State Highway one.
What's the latest on improving rural broadband and cell coverage
in those rural areas.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Yeah, I experience it too because I'm obviously traveling a
bit on the network as well, and there are a
surprising a when you hit black spots, you know, or
it just disrupts your calls and connectivity. So look, we've
got to keep working really hard at that because we
need much more reliable and resilient telecommunication networks. It's critical
for growing our economy. It's critical for times of emergency.
(08:38):
It has improved a lot, like one of the data
than where it was even just a few years ago.
But of course you feel it when you experience it.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Oh there's a lot of come ons from the car.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Yeah, no, exactly, no, exactly, I'm in the same place.
I say the same things, even few worse things. But
what I say is that Paul Godsmith, I know he
is working really are hard that he understands that. Know
the r we're continuing network on the Rural Broadband and
Mobile black Spots program. I know he just opened I
think the five hundredth RCG to mobile tower and the
(09:10):
way Tacklie ranges just recently as well. So you're going
to continue doing more of that. But yeah, we've got
more to do. He's also announced in March, I think
it was just last month. I'm actually a suite of
regulatory changes to sort of help stimulate more competition amongst
the sector, encouraging them to sort of move further into
rural areas where there are black spots in poor services.
So yep, I think that's a very fair point. There's
(09:33):
a lot more to do. The programs are continuing, but
we've got to keep making much more progress.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
It is less than two weeks away. I must say,
by my last count, I've probably eaten about seven eggs
ahead of time. What's your count? Are you a sucker
for chocolate?
Speaker 5 (09:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (09:49):
Absolutely?
Speaker 4 (09:50):
In fact, yeah, no I am.
Speaker 7 (09:52):
I love a.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Good No, I'm pretty basic because it's sort of what
I had as a kid was that it was a pretty
great treat to get a marshmallow egg and then the
cream eggs.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
I sort of quite like as well.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
If I could get my hand on one of those
or a couple of those would be very helpful. But yeah,
pretty difficult in my house. Actually, Amanda keeps a pretty
tight grip on the flow of chocolate in an out.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Of the place. I need an Amanda myself.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Yeah, between myself and the kids, we sort of have
surreptitious ways and the stashes hidden all over the place
and yeah, which some of us know about and some
of us pretend we don't know about and utilize from
time to time. But no, yeah, so no, the bog
standard marshmallow egg and maybe as a bit of a treat,
the cream egg. An unhappy chappie.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
There you go to. It's a fantastic Prime Minister of
New Zealand, Christopher Luxeon, appreciate your time, is always nice
to chat.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Likewise, Rowen, you have a great week. Take care you two.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
It is seventeen after twelve. You are worth the country.
Don't at me. That was recorded at half mile seven
this morning. I'd basically only just woken up. I have
no idea how I digressed to chocolate at that time
of the morning, and now hearing it back, I'm hungry.
If you get me on that five double O nine.
Who is the text line link to this hour, we'll
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writes and voucher plus give you another chance to be
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dot NZID and enter Up next Rebecca Wilson. We're off
to the UK to chat to someone who honestly blows
my socks off. She is pretty amazing and very well spoken,
and I think, yeah, she's going to be a great
(11:29):
name to watch for the future and agriculture. She's up
next here on the Country she Urban nor the stores
you move in Harry Mary bummy slow, get off firm.
We'll back with the country. I'm Rowena Duncan and for
(11:49):
Jmie Mackay and today we're crossing hemispheres for a bit
of a farming catch up. I'm thrilled to be joined
by one of the UK's rising stars in the agric
influencer world, Rebecca Wilson. She's a farmer, a passionate advocate
for rural life, and she's built up a mess of
following by sharing the real, raw and often hilarious side
of life on the land, from sheep dogs to silage.
(12:12):
She's putting British farming on the map in the digital world. Rebecca,
welcome to the show. Thank you so much for your time.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Well, thank you so much for having me in And
what's a welcome really? And I guess the social media
side of farming is is something which is I guess
just building a real amount of traction in the UK
but across the world probably as people get more and
more interested in farming and where their food comes from.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Now, you've just been named in the prestigious list of
the most influential young people under thirty in the UK,
alongside the likes of Caleb Cooper from Clarkson's Farm, who
I absolutely adore as well. How does that happen for
a fifth generation arable sheep farmer from North York.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
Well, it's a good question. I don't actually know the
answer because when I was first contacted was it was
completely out of the blue. But as I said, I
it's I think it's all about farming getting a place
on the map in mainstream media in a way that
perhaps we haven't seen, you know, in you know, ten
years ago or twenty years ago, and social media and
(13:24):
programs like Clarkson's Farmer are making should we say farming,
I don't want to say making farming sexy, but I
think that's what's happening. And I'm so proud to be
part of an industry where and it's the same for
farmers across the world. We're striving, you know, in animal welfare,
we're striving to be as sustainable as possible. I mean,
(13:46):
we're definitely up against it, you know, in the financial
element and making our businesses profitable. But people want to
know where their food comes from and to hear it
from the horse's mouth, to hear it from the people
who are on the ground actually looking after those animals,
actually sitting on tractors and looking after crops. I think
it's brilliant. And then yeah, I'm so proud to.
Speaker 6 (14:07):
Be a part of it.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Now you've actually got quite a rural pew degree and
you have done a lot of work and university space
in this. Just actually go back and steep and tell
us a bit about your background.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
So you're right, what kind of varied and it's probably
not that well trodden for people who perhaps have a
farm in the family, because I was very much encouraged
to go away and do something different, perhaps learn something
beyond the farming industry. And well I'm twenty nine now,
so going back to when you're making the decisions of university,
you know, it's over ten years ago and I actually
(14:45):
went off to the University of Cambridge and I studied
for my undergraduate in human social and political sciences, so
completely unrelated to farming. But I think looking back, that
was almost the first exp bosure for me to people
who really haven't grown up in the countryside at all.
And you know, interesting in conversations, but actually people were
(15:09):
interested in farming to some extent, but nowhere near now,
you know, the conversations now have been sparked so much
by what people see line you know, Instagram and other platforms.
But I did decide that I wanted to go back
into something agricultural after their undergraduate so I did study
for Masters at the Royal Agricultural University and that was
(15:31):
in land management and that got me back, I guess
to probably where I was always going to go to
end up. I did a job as a Royal surveyor,
I did a job as a project manager in the
poultry sector, and then due to actually family illness, I
came back to the farm full time four years ago.
And I mean it's a bit cliche to say, but
(15:52):
I've never really looked back and I'm so grateful to
be doing the job I'm doing now.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Obviously, there's been a lot of talk coming out of
the UK around the Labor Government's inheritance text as a
fifth generation on the family farm. You know, what is
the implication for you? Where do you stand on the matter.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
Gosh, well, it's been it's been such a turbulent time
and I know that across well, across the world in general,
it's quite a scary time with conflicts. You know that
geopolitical landscape, but.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
To bring it back home.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
When the inheritance tax changes were first announced, and of
course if people don't know, farming property got a relief.
We were exempt from inheritance tax, which that was basically
our succession planning. The fact that we could pass farmland
down to the next generation almost protected the farm and
insulated us when actually we haven't been that profitable. There
(16:48):
hasn't been that cash in the business to pay you know,
bills of well for us on the farm at home,
we'd be looking at a million pounds inheritance tax bill,
which is just eyewatering to think that that's on your shoulders.
So when all the news came out, I mean, we've
we've had all emotions across the industry, devastation, anger, frustration,
and I've been pretty vocal about it, both on my
(17:10):
social media, but also any opportunity that I've had, perhaps
to speak to mainstream media, on the news, on the telly,
I've also taken those opportunities. I think farmers are worried
because it feels like an anti farming agenda in general.
It feels like the government is not prioritizing food production,
and for me, you know, food security is national security.
(17:33):
It's a phrase which has been used before, but I
think also for farmers and generational farmers and family farmers,
but you know, even new entrants and first generation farmers.
It feels like we could lose that connection to a
landscape which is based on producing food. It's based on
the habitats we create alongside food, and if we lose that,
(17:55):
we really do lose that. For Reveren, there's been many
promises is broken by the government, and I think farmers
need stability like any business, we need stability to have
confidence for the future. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Yeah, I can't believe or begin to imagine what you're
going through over the Ribecca. I could talk to you
all day, but unfortunately we're only a one hour radio
show before I let you go, and I'm hoping Jamie
McKay will check to you regularly so we can get
to know more about your farming operation and your place
in the influenza world in the UK. Just finally New
(18:30):
Zealand coming over here to visit, coming over here to farm.
Is it on your back at list at all?
Speaker 5 (18:37):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (18:38):
Do you know what?
Speaker 5 (18:38):
I absolutely wish I'd done it after university and any
of your listeners who are farming, they know how hard
it is to get that time away. I'd absolutely love
to go. And my fiance has just been. He's in
the military and he was over for a few months
in well Burnham and he had an absolutely amazing time
and he'd call me and say I've seen this bit
(18:59):
of kit in the fields or I've been.
Speaker 6 (19:02):
To this place.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
So he's made me even more keen to visit and
I'd absolutely love to. I've just got to sweet talk
my parents.
Speaker 6 (19:09):
For a bit of time off.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Yeah, yeah, always the hardest part of farming. I was
really lucky. I managed to spend a carving in Ireland
and then a season in Wales and absolutely loved it.
But again it was just when we were starting out
at farming careers, so that was the only time really
to be able to do that. Rebecca Wilson, UK farmer
and influencer, really appreciate your time making your debut on
(19:33):
the country. As I say, I've love chatting to you
and I hope we get to chat again soon.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Oh my absolute pleasure. Isn't she amazing? Absolutely amazing?
Speaker 6 (19:44):
Right?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Five?
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Double oh nine? If you want to fire me some
feedback up. Next, we are going to look at commodity
prices and also tariffs and preview this afternoon's OCR with
the CEO of Rabobank, Todd Charter. Us here on the
country rather thanks CEO Todd Charter has joins me now
(20:19):
on the country. Good afternoon, Todd, very well, thank you.
I imagine it's been an interesting time for you in
the world of economics and finance with the tariff talks recently.
What are you seeing from your industry and your perspective.
Speaker 8 (20:36):
Look, first of all, I mean huge volatility in a
fair amount of uncertainty in the markets, that's for sure.
Global financial markets have been a bit all over the place.
We've seen that in equity markets, exchange rates, interest rates
in different markets as well. So just a lot of volatility.
I mean, I think from our perspective when it comes
(20:58):
to food in New Zealand's position, I think I think
will be okay. But it's to me there's sill a
lot of our certain deer and some of those secondary
factors which we get to see play out and just
wear this, you know, I mean, clearly it's it's not over.
I mean there's a lot going on every day, So
we're just monitoring it as closely as we can.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
And I know key we savor is not a massive
thing in farming in terms of being a priority like
it is for the rest of us who work in
officers Todd and as I mentioned with the Prime Minister,
that's just not worth looking at it the moment.
Speaker 8 (21:29):
No, that's right, and most people don't look at it anyway,
so it's not a good time to start. So it's
a long term place that are seeing in there.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Absolutely. Rabobank CA is released. It's new Zealand Angry Business
Monthly Report. Let's look through some of the commodities, starting
with dairy. Global milk supply rising in most export regions.
Speaker 8 (21:53):
Yeah, that's what we're seeing. I mean, I think you know,
there's there's still quite a bit of upside here for us.
I think think interestingly what we are seeing in one
of the markets is just that herd reduction in China,
So it's going to be interesting to see what that
does to that particular market, which is obviously important for us.
But you know, the fundamentals are looking looking strong, so
(22:17):
I think the outlook for dairy continues to look really
good and obviously enjoying really good prices now, but you know,
prices out into the future look strong as well.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Bease and sheepmate doing pretty well, but obviously one of
the big ones to look at what the impact of
the tariffs will be.
Speaker 8 (22:36):
Yeah, certainly, beef has been very strong, you know, I
think it's in the range of thirty five to forty
five percent above the five year average for domestic markets here,
which is great for producers. Sheep meat, we've seen a
bit strong improvement which is needed, a huge, hugely welcome
after the last couple of years that's been incredibly tough.
(22:58):
So you know, that looks strong for both of those
commodities as well, which is good and again, as you say,
just just pure supply of un fundamentals, particularly when it
comes to be.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Yeah, in terms of farm inputs. We chatted about this
with our US Farming correspondent Todd Clark on yesterday's show.
He had seen, you know, prices coming back quite a bit,
but then uncertainty starting to bite away bit.
Speaker 6 (23:22):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 8 (23:23):
I mean the big movie there's been the your air prices,
which which I hadn't been across really, but reading the
update that we've put out I mean, it's a mess
of nearly thirteen percent reduction in your air prices, so
they will certainly be welcome on farm as an input cost.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Yeah, interest rates and foreign exchange. Obviously, we've got an
OCR announcement coming through at two o'clock this afternoon here
in New Zealand. Where's that kind of sitting for you guys?
Speaker 8 (23:53):
Well, I think it's interesting. I mean, we certainly were
picking twenty five basis point cut today. There's a little
bit of commentary that you know where that might end up.
But you know, we're still thinking two more cuts, may
be a third, but I mean, who knows. There's a
lot of volatility out there, so you know, we'll just
wait and see. And you know, I think the tone
(24:16):
of the announcement or the comments at two o'clock will
be important to give us a steera where that might
go in the future.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Indeed, finally one for you oil and freight. What's looking
What is it looking like in this area?
Speaker 8 (24:28):
I look pretty stable, I think, I think, you know, again,
just the sort of trade implications out of the US.
I think shipping is going to becoming an interesting topic.
I think, you know, the US is certainly pretty keen
to control more of it, sort of shipping lanes and
things like that, and where the price sings up and
(24:49):
where that price is born I guess by what's part
of the market. So I think that's one to watch
and keeping on. But yeah, at pump prices, we've seen
few prices come down here, so just again it just
highlights that volatility. It's all over the place.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Let's finish on a high tide. You've had a phenomenal
response for your Rabbo Community Hub competition.
Speaker 8 (25:12):
Yeah, it's been awesome. It's been great to see and
been really good and super proud of the team for
pulling it together. We went out to the market to
get twenty twenty winners from community hubs across New Zealand
and we've had a staggering I think there's been well
I know, there's been more than five hundred entries, which
(25:33):
is high watering stuff and just highlights the demand that's
out there. So, as I've said previously, so it's closed
now and the team's doing the hard work of going
through those five hundred entries, and then each of our
client councils. We've got four client councilors across the country
they will be selecting five each for their regions and
(25:55):
for this year, but that's hopefully it's something that we
can continue into the few because the demand is there
and so we need to find a way to support
those community helps ride up and down the countryside. And
I'm not sure when it's going to be announced rowing
it just because of the quantum that they get getting through,
but I'm told it will be the sometime this month,
so look forward to that.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
My goodness, I don't envy them that job. I hope
you're feeding them lots of Easter eggs tied to keep
them going.
Speaker 8 (26:22):
Yeah, it's a big job, but they'll do it well
and there'll be some great winners in there, and you'll
be hopefully smart as we can.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Supports absolutely Todd chatters rather thanks CEO. Pleasure is always
to chat to you. Thanks Roy, my pleasure. Twenty two
away from One Up Next. We did rural News at
the beginning of the show, but we'll just touch on
that amazing story about Will next Sports News with Andy
Duff in our Auckland studios before the end of the
(26:51):
our Kelly Wilson ahead of this month, Kai Manawah Muster,
how are we video sent to me by my spies
at side Timoru Jamie McKay behaving a bit more like
a university student than a man of sixty five. We
will ask him about that just before one Here on
the Country, nineteen away from one. You are with the Country,
(27:27):
Rowena Duncan and for Jamie McKay, we will chat to
him before the end of the hour. No rural news.
We did that at the start of the show. If
you've just joined us. The government's making it mostly mandatory
for your government buildings to use woolen carpets and insulation.
The Prince of the province is Shane Joan on the
show tomorrow, no doubt he'll have a lot to say
about that matter. And look, this was part of the
(27:49):
coalition agreement, but it has been put into action today.
Fantastic news. Here's Andy duff Wood Sport Sport.
Speaker 8 (27:57):
We're the FCO.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Kiwi to the bone. It's nineteen oh four.
Speaker 9 (28:02):
Rugby Australia have signed a new broadcast deal with Channel
nine earning around. Can you not hear me?
Speaker 3 (28:09):
I can't hear you?
Speaker 9 (28:10):
Am I here?
Speaker 3 (28:11):
I can hear you?
Speaker 6 (28:12):
Now?
Speaker 9 (28:12):
Can you hear me now?
Speaker 3 (28:13):
I can?
Speaker 8 (28:14):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (28:15):
Okay, shall we start that again, Shall go again? O
sport with AFCO. Visit them online at.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
A f CO, dot co dot nzed.
Speaker 9 (28:24):
You welcome, You're welcome AFCO. That's two sting sphere. That's
twenty that's ten million dollars according to Rugby Australia, who
have signed a brand new broadcast deal with Channel nine.
As I said, ten million dollars a year more than
their current contract, which is massive. The extension, which takes
the partnership through to twenty thirty, includes twenty five million
dollars of performance bonuses if and if only the Wallabies
(28:46):
and sup Rugby teams win trophies. Highland's Flankashawn with He
has been suspended for three games reduced to two if
he completes tackle school properly for a sliding knee and
the Super Rugby loss to the fourth last Saturday. And
in the Champions League quarter final, football Action and hosts
Arsenal have stunned Real Madrid three nil and visitors into
Milan have triumphed two one over By in Munich. Those
(29:06):
are your sports headlines.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
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is South Island is better than the North Island. I'm
firmly on the fence on this one. Born raised and
now residing back in the North Island. But the last
seven years in Dunedin. Heading down there to go hunting
(30:17):
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(30:39):
Next Jamie Mackay before the end of the hour, answering
a question about his behavior last night, welcome back to
the country. Well, they wild, iconic and deeply woven into
the heart of the Kaimunahwa Rangers. But every few years
many of these horses are rounded up in a pro
(31:00):
that's as controversial as it is necessary. This month marks
another Kaimuna wild Horse muster, so we're taking a closer
look at what really happens and why. Joining me now
is Kelly Wilson, founding board member of Kaimunoa Legacy Foundation
and experienced horsewoman in her own right. Hello Kelly, Welcome
(31:20):
into the show.
Speaker 7 (31:22):
Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
My absolute pleasure. Look, give us a bit of a
rundown on what the Kaimunoa wild horse muster is and
why it's so necessary.
Speaker 7 (31:33):
So the wild population is managed by the Department of
Conservation at about three to four hundred horses, and that's
really important for the ecosystem and also for the health
of the horses. Since musters started taking place, the horses
are generally bigger, healthier and able to transition really well
to domestication. But to do that, obviously, it's either colling
(31:58):
the herd or we home in. So we work alongside
come on our heritage horses to encourage adopters and get
people to step up and offer these horses a second
chance at life.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
How many horses are we talking here, Kelly, because it's
more than just a handful kind of every year.
Speaker 8 (32:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (32:17):
So the herd is currently at six hundred and seventy
nine So doc have said they're happy with four hundred
men left in the wild, which is quite a big deal.
Often in the past it's reduced to three hundred. So
they're looking for two hundred and seventy nine homes, which
is the largest master since twenty eighteen, when three hundred
horses came out.
Speaker 6 (32:37):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
And as we're saying, that's more than just a handful.
You are looking to support people who adopt the horses.
How easy are they or how challenging are they to
turn from a wild horse into a domesticated horse.
Speaker 7 (32:54):
So people have the opportunity to take horses directly from
the wild if they had the time, experience and facil is. Otherwise,
they can go through an improved trainer who has experienced
with wild horses and all the requiety yards. So if
you've gone through a trainer, generally within forty ten weeks,
these horses are better handle the most domestic young stock.
They're being called in the paddock, leading, loading on trucks
(33:17):
and trailers and able to make the journey to your property,
whether that's in the North Island or the Staff Island.
So they do transition incredibly well, and it really comes
down to investing into them and leaving them have that
chance to shine.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Yeah, and there's a lot of support on that front
as well.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (33:39):
So as part of our foundation, we offer subsidies and
do lots of public crowdfunding. We have a comeu and
One auction which is launching on our Facebook page tomorrow,
and that's one of our big fundraising initiatives to be
able to provide potential owners with a thousand dollars subsidy
to help them with the training costs if they need
to enlist the house of the trainer.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Now you're speaking from experience when you say they do
transition really well, how many do you estimate you've broken
in of these commnual horses and your time, Kelly.
Speaker 7 (34:12):
So, we first got involved in twenty twelve alongside my
sister's vicin Amanda, and then obviously we had our TV
show Keeping Up with a Come On I was in
twenty and fourteen and since then I've taken you up
to twenty six from every musters, so well over one hundred,
one hundred and fifty coman our horses now and this year,
because of the desperate need, I think we've only got
about one hundred applications so far and obviously one hundred
(34:36):
and seventy nine horses still facing an uncertain state. So
we're going to have fifty horses arrive at my property
in two two and a half weeks and potentially opening
up a maximum of one hundred spots to be able
to save as many as possible.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Well, obviously it's something that really resonates strongly with you.
Speaker 6 (34:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (34:57):
I've been documenting and recording the mana I heard for
over a decade and extensively for the past five years
as part of the wild Comanoa Field Guide Database project,
which documents every horse in the wild. So I know
them all personally. I know their lineage, who their parents are,
how old they are. I've watched them grow up, become bachelors,
fight for a herd of their own, so it is
(35:19):
it is very personal and I feel very invested.
Speaker 6 (35:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Absolutely, look for farmers who might be looking for a
horse around the farm. Now, would they make a good
stock work course, a good mustering horse in the.
Speaker 7 (35:31):
South, Yeah, So they're really verstile and good for everything
generally in this part of the mountain. These horses are
sort of ranging from fourteen to fifteen hands, so some
can be big enough for adults for muster and stock work.
A lot of them are really ideal as tony couble
rounders and competition horses or trekking and pleasure ponies. So
(35:51):
Kamanowas have gone on to be top Grandfrey show jumpers.
You know, stock horses Western horses and also really top
level show hundred dressage. You know, pretty much any discipline
you know Carmanawas has been showcased at top level.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Fantastic. Hey, Kelly Wilson, experienced horsewomen and part of the
Komunua Legacy Foundation. Look, thank you so much for your
time today and going through all of that and all
the best for the muster. I hope you don't have
to take in between fifty and one hundred horses and
we find some more homes for them, but I know
they'll be in good hands no matter what. Thanks so
(36:27):
much for your time.
Speaker 7 (36:28):
Well, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Time.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
It is five away from at one of wrapping the
country with the actual houset of the country, Jamie McKay,
Day two of the Side South Island Airy Event Conference
and Tamaru Jamie, two words for you. Fireball shots.
Speaker 6 (36:48):
Yes, happened last night at the annual side dinner. Yeah yeah, yeah,
we had to do it when in Rome. But it's
been really good. It's been a great conference. I must say,
I'm very impressed by Timaru or Timur as a town.
I've been most impressed.
Speaker 9 (37:03):
Anyhow.
Speaker 6 (37:03):
Hey, look, I know we're out of time and I
was going to be chatting to doctor Allen Ford today
on the show, but she had to catch a plane.
I'm going to try and get her on later this week.
She was a real kick. Ask Gift, She's amazing, Meka,
she is amazing and what an entertainer. And I just
sat through and you know how I'm a bit of
a finance geek and I just set through a finance workshop.
(37:25):
I chose that over the masstitis workshop by the way
Row and it was absolutely fantastic. And we're going to
wrap the South Island Air event with our old mate
Sam Owen, who was kind of the motivational speaker on
the rural mental health and all that sort of stuff
to wrap the show. So he's finishing it off at
about four o'clock this afternoon. Then it's into the Highlux
(37:46):
Hybrid Row and back to Donner's for the show tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
Well I'm glad you did the fire ball shots last night, Jamie,
not today to wrap the conference. Hey, thanks for trusting
me for two days and your seat and welcome back
tomorrow with the Prince of the Provinces talk looking forward
to it. Hi, thanks everyone for your company these last
two days. Take care and enjoy yourselves today catch.
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