April 28, 2025 • 6 mins
The Minister of Biosecurity talks about the Operational Agreement for Foot and Mouth Disease, which seeks to ensure we’re as prepared as possible for a potential outbreak and sets out how a response effort would be funded. Staying with biosecurity, he also announces the successful eradication of high pathogenic avian influenza (HPAI) - aka - bird flu.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
He's the Minister for Biosecurity and Food Safety Associate Egg
as well and a Manu or two dairy farmer. His
name is Andrew Hoggard, former president of Federated Farmers. How
many hats does this bloke worn? Andrew? Just before we
discuss what you're up to today? Is the drought over
in the man or two?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Oh? Very definitely? Well in my neck of the woods,
it definitely is. We're getting good recovery and covers a
lift and so I'm able to dial the masback and yeah,
the farm's looking healthy again.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I was in jest talking to some farmers yesterday, dairy farmers,
asking them what they were going to do with all
their money at ten dollars plus.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I think my wife's miniged to spend it already all
for me, and we've certainly done a lot of upgrading
on the farm, so all the local engineering shops and
others are well being serviced by all the work for
us for us.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Yeah, I think field days could be good this year
for exhibitors, especially especially with the big second items, because
there's a lot of catch up spending and maintenance that
needs to be done.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Oh definitely, Yeah, look a lot of people would to
hold held off on new bits of kit and other
improvements to the farms. So yeah, it'll definitely be catch
up time this year.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
What are you doing in ash Burton today?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
So meeting with Beef and Lamb and they're having a
bit of a meeting. Local farmers came along. I think
we're talking about the operational agreement around foot and mouth,
amongst any other things that everyone wants to talk about.
You know, I'm sure the conversation will go far and wide,
but primary thing is about the foot and mouth operational
(01:41):
agreement and trying to encourage people to vote in favor
of beef and lamb being part of that.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Well, it sets out how a response to foot and
mouth disease, Heaven help us if it ever got here,
I would be funded. The answer is obviously the government's
going to chip in big time because it'll break us
as a nation if we get it. But the farm
I'm assuming have to pitch in as well.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yeah. Much similar to well not similar to a similar
process to microplasma ovus where we have a levee. However,
obviously foot and mouths expected to be potentially much bigger,
so there is caps for each of the sectors, and
I mean in the case of fotten Mouth, any levey
or levees won't be charged until a year after we
(02:26):
get back into markets, so we'll get trade flowing again,
get money coming back in for a year before any
levees might be applied. But yeah, the government will be
obviously contributing to a large amount. But mainly it's not
so much about the funding. It's mainly about the working
together and who does what, how we communicate, what are
(02:49):
all the moving pieces, and how we put the whole
response together. Because certainly, you know, what I've seen in
the role is where you have situations like the recent
fruit fly in Auckland. You know it was a very
well run process. Everyone knew what they were doing, they
knew weird things had to go up, who was doing what,
(03:10):
and that meant able to get on top of things
much quicker and much easier as opposed to everyone running
around like a bunch of headless chickens. So I think
this is a really key part in New Zealand's bi
security strategy, is that collaboration between government and industry.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
I'm going to come back to headless chickens. But as
the likes abov us bird flu fruit fly you mentioned
have these They have been good dry runs for foot
and mouth disease.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
It certainly helps you learn. The more experiences you get,
even though you don't want them, the better it is
that you're able to prepare and respond when something really
massive like foot and mouth, which hopefully never ever happens,
but if it does, you know, hopefully we've got systems
(04:01):
in place that will mean we're able to manage it
quickly and efficiently and limit the harm.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
We've been talking about foot and mouth and what it
might mean for this country. But would we split our
country in half? Say there's a foot and mouth outbreak
on your farm in the Manor or two region there?
Do we immediately block the cook straight?
Speaker 2 (04:21):
I would think so. I mean it's well, there'll be
as part of it, you've got your whole containment zones
that go up in there sort of in place, and
then depending on how the response is going, whether there's
vaccination happening, which you then cull two. But certainly what's
if you look at Europe, what's happened is you know
(04:43):
they've put up in blocks and saying right, we're not
exporting from this part of Germany. We're not doing X,
Y and Z. So I think if this was ever
to happen here in New Zealand, what we could reasonably
argue with other countries is if it hit in the
North Eye and we're able to quickly contain it in
place to the North Island, we would be able to
(05:04):
argue that, hey, you know it's in the North Island.
South Island's free. Let's get trade moving again from the
South Island and then you know, quickly we're able to
get other parts of the North Island back in the
market again once that sort of guarantees are given that
it's truly contained to a certain spot and we've then
(05:28):
eliminated it from elsewhere.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Okay, apologies for my flip and comment about headless chickens,
it'll get me in trouble. But on a more serious
vein you announced, I think yesterday, that you've on top
of bird flu in otago.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah, so the response period has finished at the hell
growth arm I think it's called. And basically all the
depopulating obviously happened a long time ago, but all the cleaning,
disinfecting and all of that that's taking place, and all
the testing confident that all traces of disease have been
(06:07):
removed instead of now and are able to restart repopulating
that farm and get back to producing eggs.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Andrew Hogar, the Minister of Biosecurity, Food Safety, Associate egg
former President of Federated Farmers in Manor Tu kal Kocki,
thanks for your time today on the country.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
No worries. Thanks Jeremy
He's the Minister for Biosecurity and Food Safety Associate Egg
as well and a Manu or two dairy farmer. His
name is Andrew Hoggard, former president of Federated Farmers. How
many hats does this bloke worn? Andrew? Just before we
discuss what you're up to today? Is the drought over
in the man or two?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Oh? Very definitely? Well in my neck of the woods,
it definitely is. We're getting good recovery and covers a
lift and so I'm able to dial the masback and yeah,
the farm's looking healthy again.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I was in jest talking to some farmers yesterday, dairy farmers,
asking them what they were going to do with all
their money at ten dollars plus.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I think my wife's miniged to spend it already all
for me, and we've certainly done a lot of upgrading
on the farm, so all the local engineering shops and
others are well being serviced by all the work for
us for us.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Yeah, I think field days could be good this year
for exhibitors, especially especially with the big second items, because
there's a lot of catch up spending and maintenance that
needs to be done.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Oh definitely, Yeah, look a lot of people would to
hold held off on new bits of kit and other
improvements to the farms. So yeah, it'll definitely be catch
up time this year.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
What are you doing in ash Burton today?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
So meeting with Beef and Lamb and they're having a
bit of a meeting. Local farmers came along. I think
we're talking about the operational agreement around foot and mouth,
amongst any other things that everyone wants to talk about.
You know, I'm sure the conversation will go far and wide,
but primary thing is about the foot and mouth operational
(01:41):
agreement and trying to encourage people to vote in favor
of beef and lamb being part of that.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Well, it sets out how a response to foot and
mouth disease, Heaven help us if it ever got here,
I would be funded. The answer is obviously the government's
going to chip in big time because it'll break us
as a nation if we get it. But the farm
I'm assuming have to pitch in as well.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yeah. Much similar to well not similar to a similar
process to microplasma ovus where we have a levee. However,
obviously foot and mouths expected to be potentially much bigger,
so there is caps for each of the sectors, and
I mean in the case of fotten Mouth, any levey
or levees won't be charged until a year after we
(02:26):
get back into markets, so we'll get trade flowing again,
get money coming back in for a year before any
levees might be applied. But yeah, the government will be
obviously contributing to a large amount. But mainly it's not
so much about the funding. It's mainly about the working
together and who does what, how we communicate, what are
(02:49):
all the moving pieces, and how we put the whole
response together. Because certainly, you know, what I've seen in
the role is where you have situations like the recent
fruit fly in Auckland. You know it was a very
well run process. Everyone knew what they were doing, they
knew weird things had to go up, who was doing what,
(03:10):
and that meant able to get on top of things
much quicker and much easier as opposed to everyone running
around like a bunch of headless chickens. So I think
this is a really key part in New Zealand's bi
security strategy, is that collaboration between government and industry.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
I'm going to come back to headless chickens. But as
the likes abov us bird flu fruit fly you mentioned
have these They have been good dry runs for foot
and mouth disease.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
It certainly helps you learn. The more experiences you get,
even though you don't want them, the better it is
that you're able to prepare and respond when something really
massive like foot and mouth, which hopefully never ever happens,
but if it does, you know, hopefully we've got systems
(04:01):
in place that will mean we're able to manage it
quickly and efficiently and limit the harm.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
We've been talking about foot and mouth and what it
might mean for this country. But would we split our
country in half? Say there's a foot and mouth outbreak
on your farm in the Manor or two region there?
Do we immediately block the cook straight?
Speaker 2 (04:21):
I would think so. I mean it's well, there'll be
as part of it, you've got your whole containment zones
that go up in there sort of in place, and
then depending on how the response is going, whether there's
vaccination happening, which you then cull two. But certainly what's
if you look at Europe, what's happened is you know
(04:43):
they've put up in blocks and saying right, we're not
exporting from this part of Germany. We're not doing X,
Y and Z. So I think if this was ever
to happen here in New Zealand, what we could reasonably
argue with other countries is if it hit in the
North Eye and we're able to quickly contain it in
place to the North Island, we would be able to
(05:04):
argue that, hey, you know it's in the North Island.
South Island's free. Let's get trade moving again from the
South Island and then you know, quickly we're able to
get other parts of the North Island back in the
market again once that sort of guarantees are given that
it's truly contained to a certain spot and we've then
(05:28):
eliminated it from elsewhere.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Okay, apologies for my flip and comment about headless chickens,
it'll get me in trouble. But on a more serious
vein you announced, I think yesterday, that you've on top
of bird flu in otago.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah, so the response period has finished at the hell
growth arm I think it's called. And basically all the
depopulating obviously happened a long time ago, but all the cleaning,
disinfecting and all of that that's taking place, and all
the testing confident that all traces of disease have been
(06:07):
removed instead of now and are able to restart repopulating
that farm and get back to producing eggs.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Andrew Hogar, the Minister of Biosecurity, Food Safety, Associate egg
former President of Federated Farmers in Manor Tu kal Kocki,
thanks for your time today on the country.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
No worries. Thanks Jeremy
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