April 29, 2025 • 38 mins
Jamie Mackay talks to Christopher Luxon, Scott Barrett, Hunter McGregor, and Jim Hopkins.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's the Country
Podcast with Jamie McKay. Thanks to Brent, the starkest of
the leading agriculture brands.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I don't know what to sell.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Jaysuy fine, shine, God, good Amiew Zealand and welcome to
the Country, brought to you by Brent.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
My name is Jamie McKay. Musical theme nineteen eighty five
will tell you why. A wee bit later, we're going
to kick off the show with the Prime Minister, Christopher Luxen,
who actually sent me a very interesting text last night
about Chinese dairy production. We'll talk about that one and
attack Scott Barrett looking forward to chatting to the all
Blacks captain born and bred, of course on a Taranaki
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coastal Taranaki dairy farm. He's all so the Kywalker clothing
brand ambassador. Your chance today to win that storm Force
Parker worth four hundred and sixty nine dollars. Hunter McGregor
is our guy in Shanghai. The trade war is well
and truly on between China and the US. But who's
(01:19):
going to blink first? Jim Hopkins, rural raconteur who finds
the Paris climate accord No joke. All that to do
on the show today. Michelle will have rural news and
I'll have sports news for you, and there will be
a bit of sports sprinkled through because we're talking to
the All Blacks Captain. Looking forward to that one the
PM to kick off the show Wednesday's on the the
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Prime Minister kicks off the show. And it's a bit
of a bugger if you don't mind me saying, Christopher
Lux And when you're doing my homework for me, you
sent me a text last night about Chinese milk production.
I had no idea.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Yeah, look, I just thought it was an interesting one
of those looking through my reading and just sort of
saying that actually Chinese local domestic milk production will be
down this year, and obviously that means I've got huge
more demand for product from New Zealand and other places
as well. So I mean, look, I mean we've been
through a tough time. We're coming out of a recession.
The economy is now growing, which is good, but what's
powering us through is agriculture as always, and when you
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look at what the outlook is for dairy seeing when
you took Nason Guy and the Red Meat guys are
feeling really positive about the year ahead, and then you know,
right there, you know, you've got the better wall price
than I've had probably in the last eight years. Still
a challenge in war obviously, but better than it has been.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
So.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
Yeah, yet again agriculture leading us through, which is why
it's a that bone of economy and why I want
to keep powering it up.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Yeah. Chinese milk production for the first time in seven years,
has reduced down two point eight percent for twenty two
before forecast to decline further in twenty twenty five. Courtesy
of Christopher Luckson. Okay, dairy conversions have been a hot
topic on the show this week. Are they now well
and truly back on the table as one of the
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ways we can double our exports within a decade?
Speaker 7 (03:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
Look, I mean we want we want dairy pumping, you know,
we really do, and we actually want all the primary
industries to be growing and to innovate. And I think
when you look at what's happening in dairy, we can
certainly be more productive with current stock numbers, and we're
looking at ways, as you know, to sort of be
much more permissius and in productive with the way we
get land usee using across the system as well. So
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look im in the bottom line for us is we
just want growth. I mean, we're ruthlessly obsessed on it.
We want dairy growing strongly. It's good to see all
the value added technology that's coming into deiry that's leading
to those premium prices because there's good innovation and value
add taking place, which is really good. But we also, Jamie,
I mean for the farmers listening, we've all they had
really good growth in our services exports as well. So
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you know, if you look at the UK, for example,
where I was this last week, our exports total exports
are up twenty one percent and it's a sort of
a good mix of goods and services, and actually our
technology companies are actually selling well. We're obviously getting good
inbound growth on tourism. I think tourism value was up
sixty percent, by the numbers were up just ten percent,
so we're getting the right kind of people coming in
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and spending money again in the economy. So all of
that's positive. You know, we've got certainly some challenging times
ahead with the global trade environment and tariff environment, but
it's all about our relative competitiveness compared to other countries
and can we outcompete them?
Speaker 7 (04:39):
And yes we can.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Nicola will escape her pre budget speech yesterday. This one's
going to be the tightest budget in a decade, billions
cut from operating spending. Are we on the verge of
becoming a banana republic? Because I can tell you some
ways you could easily save some money. Prime Minister, you've
probably heard all this before. How about the winter energy
payment to people like me?
Speaker 7 (05:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (05:02):
Well, firstly, I just say, look, absolutely not. We're not
becoming a banana a public. This is a country with
a huge potential and a great potential and great future
ahead of it. But you know what Nichols acknowledging is
that things aren't easy for New Zealand and for the world.
We've got a lot of instability out there and uncertainty
out there. But having said that, our focus for our
budget's going to be all about economic growth and that
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means yet we're overseeing a very steady economic recovery. We've
got an export lead growth, you know, starting to strengthen,
We've got business confidence rising. Are the primary sectors starting
to get on song?
Speaker 7 (05:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (05:35):
But hang on, the Prime Minister even answered my question.
You're paying Winston Peters a winter energy payment. He doesn't
need it, Jamie Macaire peys, Yes, yeah, well I am more.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
Than welcome to give it away my friends.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Yeah, well I can give it away, but it would
be better staying in the government coffers. See the other
one they're throwing out there, and this is a really
interesting one, is the Key We Savor subsidy. This is
big money. This is one point one billion the winter
energy payments, like half a in. But you know, I've
had mixed feelings on this one because I think Key
We Save it is a magnificent thing. And anything that
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encourages Key Wes to save. Are you getting your five
hundred and twenty one bucks each a year if you
put in just over one thousand should be encouraged.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
Look, there's we'll have to get. You know, we're obviously
working pretty closer to the budget now and we have
to be careful about what we can save before that
budget's announced. But you know, rest assured we when we're
making we're doing we're getting our books in order, and
what we're doing is making sure we're reprioritizing the spending
to get it in the right places, and therefore that
does mean, yes, that some agencies and government departments are
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going to have to manage really tightly from the budgets
that they've got.
Speaker 6 (06:40):
That's good.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
They've got to make sure they swept that money harder
and get better value for money from that spent, which
is what you do in a business, It's what you
do with your family finances, what we expect the government
agencies to be doing.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
You realize where the most important saving could come from,
don't you. Age of eligibility for national super I don't
want to mention Winston yet again, but if he wasn't
drawing breath or in Parliament, you and Seymour would move
this to sixty seven that would save us a fortune.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
Yeah, look, definitely very much big part of our policy
and we think that's a good idea. We think, you know,
the population I think is aging. Average age goes up
about a year and a half every ten years across
New Zealand, and that's why we've always had thecated we
should listen to the retirement age. But as you know,
we're in coalition government and that's not something that needs
own first supports. So feel free to talk to onson about.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
It, tail wagging the dog. Now we've got our pality right, Yeah, Okay,
I accept that we got our pound of flesh well
and truly out of you on your latest offshore trip
talking trade and defense with Secare Starmer, the Gallipoli Dawn Service,
and then the Pope's funeral. I don't want to call
it a matted bonus, but it was good that you
(07:43):
were able to be there.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Look, it was a big week last week. I mean
I was really pleased with the trip to the UK
in particular. I think, you know, we've had a lot
of historical ties.
Speaker 6 (07:53):
To the UK.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
Obviously similar value, similar history, similar outlook on the world,
but now with defense and what we want to do
together in that space, along with the FTA and how
we build more meat onto the bones of that. When
you see our exports as I set up twenty one
percent to the UK, our guys are understanding the opportunities
they are in that market, and it's a good market
for us to be invested in. So that now gives
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us things to feed into a future relationship. Defense and
trade deliberately was pretty powerful, Jamie. I mean to go
there on the Dawn Service and give that speech and
then be able to do some do another speech at
chunnick Bear at the top of the hell where we
lost a huge amount of troops was pretty sobering. It
was sobering because just the day before I'd been down
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meeting probably one hundred and fifty Ukrainian soldiers and they
were guys that were chefs and plumbers that have been
out fighting in Ukraine had come across to the UK
to be trained by New Zealand and British troops. We've
trained fifty four thousand Ukrainian soldiers and they were going
back into warfare in a matter of days. They were
going to be back at the front lines again in
the trenches. And there they are in Ukraine and trench
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warfare with drones, and one hundred and ten years ago
we were at Gillipoli and trenches as well. So and
in the Pope's funeral, I mean pretty great man. I
mean the massive determination for his cause and his church,
but also massive amounts of personal humility and that's always
what I admire and good leaders. And there was a
chance also just to with probably fifteen or so other
leaders that I got to chat with, and I'm informally
as well, which was all right.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Christopher Luxan, thanks for your time. I appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
Appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
Jamie, you have a great week.
Speaker 8 (09:26):
Sorry about that.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
It is sixteen after twelve, Michelle, You're in trouble obviously.
That was recorded earlier this morning.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Michelle, I don't know why you had it on.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
If you hadn't done such a great job with digging
up music from nineteen eighty five, I would scold you,
Michelle publicly, but I'm not going to because you've gone
to nineteen eighty five.
Speaker 9 (09:47):
Why nineteen eighty five? Because I was reading about The
Breakfast Club, which is one of my favorite movies of
all time. The cast actually reunited for the first time
in forty years a couple of weeks ago, and they
were talking about what would happen if it was made now.
But I don't think it would work now. You haven't
seen the brief?
Speaker 4 (10:02):
No, I haven't seen it. No, I can't believe I
didn't see it because I was in my prime in
nineteen eighty five.
Speaker 9 (10:07):
Classic classic movie. You must watch it.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Yeah, so music from nineteen eighty five. This is a
good reminder for me here, Michelle. I'm going to let
you off completely for your technical erar because I'm in
charge of the music at the Riversdale Rugby Club reunion
of the champion nineteen eighty five side, and we'll be
playing songs from nineteen eighty five. I think I'll go
with a bit of Aha, Talking Heads, Mental as Anything,
(10:33):
Tears for Fars Foreigner Murray Head One Night in Bangkok.
Speaker 9 (10:39):
Yeah, great song classic.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
We don't need another hero Tina Turner, but I'm a donner.
She was sort of quintessential nineteen eighty five. Up next,
we're going to tell you how you can win that
Kai Walker ki Walker Parker worth four hundred and sixty
nine dollars alright, because we're going to talk to the
(11:02):
Kaiwalker brand ambassador Scott Barrett before the end of the hour.
We're heading to Shanghai. Hunter McGregor, our guy over there
who's going to blink first in the Chinese US trade war.
And Jim Hopkins haven't heard from him for a while.
On the Paris Climate Accord. It's all on the country,
(11:49):
all this week. On the country. We've got a wonderful
giveaway from the team at Kaiwaker Clothing. We've got a
storm Force Parker worth four hundred and sixty nine dollars
to give away. We'll tell you you can win one
of those in a tick. But we thought, because we're
doing this promotion with Kyle Walker, we'd speak to their
brand ambassador this week, none other than All Blacks Captain
(12:10):
Scott Barrett. Scott, thanks for some of your time. I
realized you're a busy man. Am I still correct in
calling you the All Blacks Captain? Has Raiser confirmed the
job for twenty five Um?
Speaker 10 (12:21):
Yeah, I don't know, I think, yeah, I guess we
assume that still captain. Yeah, they're going to keep playing
well for the Crusaders and hopefully that doesn't change.
Speaker 6 (12:32):
So yeah, it's yeah, I'd still like to have the job.
Speaker 10 (12:36):
And that's my folks at the moment, is to keep
playing well for the Crusaders. And you turn up in
July ready to go for the All works.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Well, I'm sure you will be the All Blacks Captain. Look,
you Crusaders, and I'm in Highlander's territory here, Scott. You're
getting annoyingly good again. It was better last year when
you were useless. And I say I say that somewhat facetiously,
but the Crusaders are looking menacingly menacing.
Speaker 10 (13:01):
Yeah, I think the last three or four games is
sort of you've built a bit of confidence within the
team and certainly the team without the ball at the moment. Yeah,
defense has been pretty strong, so I think that's pleasing
to see we've made shifts from last year.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
You certainly have all right. Hey, yeah, I note that
you've got a share in a dairy farm, not you
and your mum and dad's farm, Robin and Smiley. They've
got like a picture perfect farm there on coastal Taranaki.
You've got one up the road. Do you ever get
your hands dirty these days? Or do you get the
opportunity in the time to get your hands dirty wearing
your kaiwaka parker on the farm.
Speaker 6 (13:41):
I haven't had too many opportunities.
Speaker 10 (13:43):
We had a working bee there late last year and
you got out there marked in for a day or two,
but time's pretty limited and being based down in christ Church.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
Yeah, it is nice to have an interest in.
Speaker 10 (13:58):
The farm on the coast and Tartannak, and it's good
to keep the mind ticking over outside of rugby as well.
So I've certainly enjoyed that the last last season and
it was looking like a great season for us until
about January when yeah, the man upstairs turned the tap
off the irrigator and she tried up pretty quickly.
Speaker 6 (14:20):
But I think we're bounce and back. Yeah, after a
bit of rain recently.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Well, your brother's Bowden and Geordie have probably got a
bit of spare cash splashing about. Are they involved with you?
Speaker 10 (14:31):
JORDI is he's he's interested in agriculture. Body, I think
he's not in this farm with us.
Speaker 6 (14:40):
He's got a few other things going on.
Speaker 10 (14:41):
And you know, it's good to be in partnership with
the with Jordy and learn about, you know, operating dairy farm.
Speaker 6 (14:49):
It's been a great experience so far.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Were you born and raised on one all eight of
you obviously, but you went down to Lincoln UNI and
studied agriculture. So is that going to be your oltimate
future in that industry once you've retired from rugby?
Speaker 2 (15:03):
I'm talking Scott, Yeah, potentially.
Speaker 10 (15:06):
I talked to the wife a little bit around you know,
going into the drying and I think it's probably one
of those things you don't know if you unless you
give it a go. So yeah, certainly there might be
an option to you know, just give it a crack
for a couple of years and see if it's for us.
But until then, I'll keep chasing the rugby boy around
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the footy field.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
How did you get the job as the brand ambassador
for Kywalker.
Speaker 10 (15:31):
Yeah, I've got an agent who put me in touch
with the team up there and the Far North, and yeah,
we've sort of got talking and they are such a
great fit in a local New Zealand company that's been
around for you know a few decades, and you know,
they make great kid and I think the fit was
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quite right. And then from a dairy farm, they were
keen to have me on board.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Yeah, well I've been or they're celebrating two hundred seasons.
I fifty years of farming and making the jackets. You're
nowhere near that with your rugby career, but you must
be getting close to twenty years eighty seasons, are you.
Speaker 10 (16:14):
Yeah, so I think I'm thirty one now and I've
been playing since you know, six or seven. Yeah, so
it's not quite two hundred seasons, but it's certainly get
not there.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Scott Barrett, Look, thank you very much for some of
your time today on the Country it's great to have
the son of because we enjoy yarning to your old
man Smiley, he's a bit of a character and a
very good farmer. I might add two in the Taranaki region. Look,
do you know what the game of footy I'm most
looking forward to this year and no doubt you guys
will be as well, because Eden Park is your fortress.
(16:47):
You're playing the South African rugby side arguably the best
team in the world at the moment. At Eden Park,
you guys haven't lost there since nineteen ninety four. That's
a hell of a lot of seasons. How good is
that game going to be?
Speaker 10 (17:01):
Yeah, I think it's going to be a huge game
I was seeing. I guess the South Africans over the
past you know, six or seven years have been right
up the top and you know they'll love to come
down and break that record. So yeah, it's certainly you know,
got the highlighter around it as a game of the year.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
Scott Barrett, a Kaiwalker clothing ambassador or brand ambassador. Thank
you very much for your time today on the country.
Appreciate it. Ensure your weekend off. I know the Crusaders
have got to buy really looking forward to your next
game on May the tenth against the Chiefs. It'll be
a cracker as well. Top of the table. See you later,
see you. Thanks Jammy for you, Thank you Scott. Good
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to have the All Blacks Captain on the show. What
a great farming and footy family, the Barretts are.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
That test at Eden Park, it's got to be the best.
It'll be the best game of rugby between rugby World Cups,
I think. Saturday September the sixth, seven five pm All
Blacks versus South Africa the spring Box at Eden Park.
We haven't lost there since the French scored the try
from the End of the World in nineteen ninety four. Incidentally,
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Tony Brown plays golf for our golf club here in Dunedin,
the Bell McEwan Golf Club, the Otago Golf Club. So
we try and get into his head to weep it
and try and weasel some information out of him. And
he doesn't say much, but I think he's quietly confident
the spring Box will do the job. He is, of
course their attack coach. The All Blacks should have got him.
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That's for real. Radio. If you want to win one
of those storm Force Parkers with four hundred and sixty
nine dollars from Kywaker Clothing. If they're good enough for
Scott Barrett to wear when he's out farming, they're good
enough for all of you guys. So this is what
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win win to five double nine. Tell us how many
seasons so you've been farming? Not years, seasons? Four seasons
in a year. Don't forget your name and where you're
listening from. They are brilliant, brilliant farm gear, especially when
it starts to rain. Michelle who won yesterday's prize, Yes.
Speaker 9 (19:17):
Yesterday's winner of the storm Force Parker was a dean
from Mount Curl, which is near Manawatu Wanganui area. Now
they sent to st.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
What about some South Islanders?
Speaker 9 (19:28):
You will get some South Island.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
There's Eggmont village yesterday and.
Speaker 9 (19:32):
We're working our way. I don't know. Actually my geography
is now great? Is that down?
Speaker 6 (19:36):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (19:37):
You need to think of the poor old Southlanders.
Speaker 9 (19:39):
We're heading that way, or some of.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Those poor buggers on the West coast. It rains all
the time there anyhow where you go.
Speaker 9 (19:45):
Well, this one's actually quite a good story that we
got with it. So they're desperate. They're in desperate need
of rain in that area. So And feels that if
she wore the jacket Murphy's law, they might get some rain.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Well that's a good that's a fair call. We've got
to get to South Island on tom robles. Actually the
trouble is we don't get to pick them do they
they're done. They've done on Auckland. That's probably why we're
getting North Ireland win There's nothing wrong with North Ireland winners.
We just want to keep it balanced. Songs from nineteen
eighty five, Ah, it might make my cup for the
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disco playlist for the Riversdale nineteen eighty five rugby reunion.
Remember Remembered a plight a reply. We're standing room only
in the Riversdale Bowls Club for the dinner. Up next
it's rural news and sports news, the.
Speaker 11 (20:50):
Jess World in a show with everything and juwel rinner.
Really I'll change. Don't you know that when you play
at this level there's no ordinary venue jan the Philippines.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
This is definitely making the disco playlist anyhow, Stop going
on about nineteen eighty five from the musical Chess Murray
Head one night in Bangkok, Okay, one day in Dunedin.
His Michelle Watt with the latest th rural news.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
The country's world news with Coup Cadet, New Zealand's leading
right on lawn Bower brand. Visit steel Ford dot co
dot nzim for your local stogist.
Speaker 9 (21:40):
And of course Field Days is just around the corner,
probably less than fifty days now, I think must be
just over a month, and I've got some news from there.
Sir William Gallagher has been awarded a National Field Day's
Life membership and recognition of his decade long contribution to
the event and New Zealand's aggt.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
It's that decade or decades. It's got to be decades dead, Yeah,
it'll be decades. He's been there since day one, says Galagher's.
Speaker 9 (22:05):
Yeah, for two decades they've been. They've run the legendary
fence building competitions at field Days and he's also been
part of Field Days since the very beginning. So that's
a long time, isn't it to be part of something?
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Well, one of New Zealand's iconic agricultural companies, and Sir
William S bill great bloke, so very humble for a
man who's achieved everything he's achieved in life.
Speaker 9 (22:28):
And that's the ruin news. Have you got sports news
in front of you there?
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Not really, I'm just listening to music from nineteen eighty five.
I might just can the rest of the show. That
might upset Jim Hopkins.
Speaker 8 (22:39):
No, I'll do sports.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
News, Sport with afco Kiwi to the Bone since nineteen
oh four.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Okay, and when we get to sports news, sorry, just
queuing up that song. Are Wallaby's coach in waiting? Les
Kiss is relieved and agreement has been found that we'll
see Joe Schmidt continue in the job until the team's
new mentor is able to take over. Schmidt will coach
beyond has planned exit after this year's Rugby Championship, instead
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adding the end of year tour as well as the
start of the New Nations Championship in July twenty twenty six.
And then I think Les Kiss has to do his
thing with the Queensland Reds and then he takes over
and he's an interesting one. On the tennis, Novak Djokovic
is twenty four not out and that where that's where
it might end for him because his immediate future ahead
(23:32):
of next month's French Tennis Open is unclear after he
withdrew from the Italian Open. The twenty four time Grand
Slam champion. When did I say twenty four or twenty six?
I think I said twenty four, didn't four? Yeah, has
lost his last three matches, defeated first up in Miami,
Monte Carlo and Madrid. And age catches up on everybody,
(23:55):
and it looks like it's catching up on him. A
lot of debate as to whether he's the greatest smale
tennis player.
Speaker 8 (24:01):
Of all time.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
I'd go with Roger Federer. Everyone likes Roger. Some people say,
what's the spaniard's name?
Speaker 2 (24:09):
The left?
Speaker 4 (24:09):
He helped me out here?
Speaker 9 (24:11):
Oh, it's gone on from my brain now, I can
see his face in my head.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
Yeah, I'll come back to him. He's one about twenty
I think, or twenty two cal.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
I'm shocked.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
I can't remember. Age does catch up with everybody, and
it's catching up with me. That really annoys me that
I can't remember that, But I will. But up next
we're heading from Europe and all those losses. Novak's having
Tom to have you.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Got the answer?
Speaker 9 (24:36):
I have someone just check of course it does.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Gee, I think it might be time to pull the
pin up next Hunter McGregor and Shanghai. I could just
go on to retirement and play music from nineteen eighty five.
(25:13):
Our guy in Shanghai is Hunter MacGregor, Roxburgh born and bred,
but he's living in the Big Smoke now selling venison,
amongst other things, to the Chinese. Now. We spoke to
Christopher Luxe and a little bit earlier on the show
Hunter and he said where he brought to the table
the fact that Chinese raw milk production was dropping. That's
got to be good for New Zealand exporters.
Speaker 6 (25:35):
Yeah, good afternoon, Jamie.
Speaker 12 (25:36):
Yeah, it has to be a positive for the New
Zealand dairy farmer, so, which is good. You know, you've
got to have a bit of positivity out there, and
there's plenty of challenges floating around with tariffs and and
what's happening between the China and US. So you know,
a nice positive sign for a dairy farmer.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
So we'll take that absolutely.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
How do you read the Mexican standoff? Actually I mentioned
the wrong country, the Mexican, Canadian or Chinese standoff? Is
it going to be who blinks? First between the US
and China on this tariff thing very much.
Speaker 12 (26:09):
So I think, you know, the Chinese is not going
to blink first at all. You know, it's quite interesting.
Trump keeps saying that they're talking to the Chinese, and
you know, and and and things are starting to happen,
and then the Chinese come out, you know, through their
Foreign ministry and you know, saying that no, we're not
talking at all yet. So yeah, it's not good. And
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you know, Trump and the Americans think they've got the
upper hand. Will be interesting to see when they've got
a few empty shelves coming up in the next week
while to see what happens. I see Amazon have started
charging and other other firms have started charging the tariff
component of the cost of goods now keeping that as
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as a separate line item and in voices and things.
So there's gonna be some real pressure going on the
American side. And because please plenty of pressure here already
with factories slowing down and things like that. So you know,
there's challenges all around. There's going to be no winners.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
Talk to me about Walmart, well, you know, more.
Speaker 12 (27:11):
Much sources a lot of products obviously out of China.
They have for a long time been saying to all
their supplies move out of China and ones that you
can have already done that, and a lot of Chinese
companies are actually setting up factories in Southeast Asia. But
you know they've said to a number of supplies. You know,
you're reading some news that there said to a number
(27:33):
of supplies, keep shipping to America and we'll sort the
tariffs out. So you know, that's a little positive sign.
But you know, the other thing. Another thing that's happening
here is that some of the big Chinese companies are
stepping up to help factories here. JD dot Com, which
is like Amazon, it's a big, it's massive company. It's
(27:53):
about worth about two hundred and fifty billion New Zealand
dollars and it sells products by products and sales and
delivers it through its own network. They've said they're going
to buy probably forty five billion US dollars of product
over the next twelve months that was destined for export
to the US to help them sell it in China.
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So some of these big companies are stepping up and
helping some of these factories.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Are you seeing any recovery in the Chinese property market.
It's a great barometer of the health of an economy.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
I guess, not a law.
Speaker 12 (28:28):
And that's a problem. That's a problem that still needs
to be fixed. It's actually our last Friday went to
Anzac Drinks, which is with our Australian friends and a
made of mine is an investment with investment firm, and
he was talking about how that problem is still there.
It's an underlying problem for everybody, especially in the big cities,
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and when that's sorted, then the economy will really start
to turn around. And it hasn't been sorted yet. It's
still bouncing along the bottom the housing market, and you know,
there's still a little bit of work to do to
sort it out. Let's see what happens if there's going
to be some stimulus or some support to turn that around,
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because that's a big it's still a bit major problem.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Shanghai, where you're based, has the most magnificent skyline of
any city in the world, especially the bit on the
other side of the water. I'm not sure what area
you call it, but you've got the Shanghai Tower six
hundred and thirty two meters hunter. I know this because
I've got to re statue in my office. You've got
the Shanghai World Financial Center and the Oriental Pearl of
(29:36):
Beautiful building, just to name three of them. But you've
been on a tall building on the other side of
the water.
Speaker 12 (29:42):
Well, I haven't been on it yet. We've got May
Day holidays here, so for the first of the fifth
of mayor on holidays. So but you know, so that
you're talking about the Pudong side with all the tall
buildings on the Puchi side of just opened a tower
well observation deck on the tallest building which is on
the Pouchey side, which is only which is three hundred
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and twenty meters tall, and it looks and it's actually
a helicopter landing pad. So you go out and you
go outside. So I'm looking forward to going there. And
you know the trick about seeing the Shanghai skyline, you
want to go at daylight, see dusk, and then at
sea at night because at the light the lights at
nighttime are pretty spectacular. So that's the plan at some
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point in the next in the next holiday to go
and check it out.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
And looking forward to almost as good as the bright
lights of Roxburgh minus your picture theater.
Speaker 12 (30:35):
Yes almost well there was bright lights from the picture
theater burned down unfortunately, so hopefully they can rebuild that soon.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
You've still got the best golf course in the country.
Got to go, Hunter McGregor. Thank you very much for
your time from Shanghai.
Speaker 8 (30:48):
Enjoyed the skyline, Yes, thanks Jammy, Wow.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
Welcome back to the country. Just got a weak text
and from my old mate Graham Smith from the Whitecaddow
and Coramandel. I think he's expanding his empire the Drug
Detection Agency somewhat, I thought, harshly and cruelly saying to me,
I thought you and your Riversdale footy mates were and
would have been into George Michael and Wham and nineteen
(31:30):
eighty five Kila Swhisper. No, we weren't, Graham, we weren't
at all. We were into Keela Swhisper at the Riversdale
Rugby Club.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
In nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
No one likes a correct to Smith, but her year's right.
I don't mind a wee bit of George Michael yourself, Michelle, I.
Speaker 9 (31:46):
Don't mind George Minae. He was a good singer.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Early George Michael, Early George Michael up next, Old old
Jim Hopkins.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
He's up next.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
See I haven't caught up with this bloke for a while,
so I thought i'd brush the cobwebs off. Jim Hopkins
Rural rack on tour, Whititaki District Councilor and Jim. I
don't know whether you heard the Christopher Luxeen interview, but
we were talking about the age of eligibility for National
super moving it from sixty five to sixty seven. That
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won't affect you because that ship has long since sailed.
How are you keeping living.
Speaker 7 (32:34):
Your route Clunker? For the record, I want to make
it clear that there are no there are no cobwebs
or flies on me, and I'm keeping front fine. Thank
you very much, and your good self. I take it
to your well. You sound to me as they've been
getting around in a sort of executive world. You're the
kind of media, the rural media equipment of Kim Kardashian,
(32:54):
living in the sort of elevate, rare ified environment of golf.
And that's whizzing here and whizzing in there.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
And golf's not a pleasure, it's a punishment for me.
I dropped your text the other day, So I said,
how about coming on because we don't know how much
longer you've got left. Of course, gym, no, I'm just joking,
but come on the show. And I said to you,
throw me a couple of topics. You come up with
the Paris Accord debate. I know that you mightn't heard Luxeon,
but you definitely heard Bryce McKenzie the other day. A
(33:25):
lot of what he said was good old fashion down
on the West Otago Farm, common sense.
Speaker 7 (33:31):
Absolutely. I mean, if you look at it, no one
has challenged the proposition that our contribution to global warming
is nought point one seven percent of the total point
one seven percent.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Jacinda would say to you, we've got to do our
bit on the world stage.
Speaker 7 (33:49):
Well, let's respect, we've got to play our part. We've
got to be leaders. You know, Look, there's no point
being a leader if the real polluters aren't leading anyone
anywhere except garden Path. And that's exactly what they're doing,
because they're either pulling out of the Powers Accord, or
have pulled out of it, or are paying lip service
to it but actually do nothing. The world is essentially
(34:11):
turning away from the Powers Accord, and we're saying, oh no, no,
we have to stay in it. My thought is this,
let's have a comparison. Suppose you're worried about crime. Now,
if you have a police force and you're worried about crime,
what's your priority. You want them to hunt that mercilessly
hump down everyone with an unpaid parking ticket, or do
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you want them to focus first on assault, violence and murder?
And if you look at that in a climate change context,
why chase the law point one seven percent of the
measure when you can be and should be chasing the
heavy headers or heavy emissas. The ones who are as
I say considering, have already pulled out of the Paris Accord.
(34:54):
The only reason I can see for staying in that
accord is the fear that certain parties overseas might make
us a sacrificial lamp and make a high profile announcement
that if we pulled out, certain products or certain contracts
(35:15):
would be null and voided.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Yes, the likes of Nesle and the Known.
Speaker 7 (35:19):
But I'm not sure that's the case because they've recently
done deals on a cost basis rather than a climate
change basis. So I mean, in the end, we would
probably just keep watching brief on that, but my guess
is that the bottom line is that those companies are
(35:40):
going to be driven in the end by a waning
public commitment and enthusiasm and a focus on costs as
people become much more cost sensitive. What's happening in the
zield now? And listening to yourself yesterday we're interviewing Shane
Jones and talking about all these dairy conversions that I
know the Prime Minister as well. And you said, oh,
(36:02):
the New Zealand Verson, the you Winston, Shane and Winston,
do you support dairy conversions? And Shane's is hell, yes
of course we do. And Jamie Mackay, friend of the farmer,
immediately dropped out the media's favorite trope. Ah, but what
about the environment? Is this dairy and dairy alone is
the one thing that's problemly matter?
Speaker 4 (36:22):
I hang on, Jim, Devil's Advocate. I was playing Devil's advocate. Look,
I'm out of time. I just want a final comment,
like twenty seconds from you, And I know you don't
do twenty seconds very well, but seriously, and Zach Day,
it's our national day.
Speaker 7 (36:37):
I was at the dawn service here. One estimate had
that we were at more than a thousand people in attendance.
And I also spoke at down in Hamden, which is
halfway between on Maru and Palmerston. And I actually acknowledged
Sir Keith Park, who I think is actually one of
(36:58):
my great New Zealanders the twentyth century. In fact, i'd
put him up on the top top ten or top five.
He literally masterminded, will help to mastermind the first defeat
of the Germans in World War Two, that's the Battle
of Britain. Then that the defeat made all the other
victories later possible.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
This is the longest twenty seconds of my life, by
the way, he's well, he's undersung absolutely here. I'm sorry
to cut you short, but I am out of time.
It's a pleasure to catch up. I'm with Shane Jones
and Winston when it comes to the dairy conversions, as
long as they're environmentally sustainable. Hell yes, mental as anything.
(37:41):
Not Jim the band from nineteen eighty five. I'm going
to wrap it with some of your feedback and tell
you how to win that jacket next. Okay, that wraps
the country of run South of time, I'll tell you
how to win the storm Force Parker from Kywaker on
(38:05):
tomorrow's show. See You then.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
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Speaker 3 (00:19):
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Speaker 4 (00:35):
My name is Jamie McKay. Musical theme nineteen eighty five
will tell you why. A wee bit later, we're going
to kick off the show with the Prime Minister, Christopher Luxen,
who actually sent me a very interesting text last night
about Chinese dairy production. We'll talk about that one and
attack Scott Barrett looking forward to chatting to the all
Blacks captain born and bred, of course on a Taranaki
(00:57):
coastal Taranaki dairy farm. He's all so the Kywalker clothing
brand ambassador. Your chance today to win that storm Force
Parker worth four hundred and sixty nine dollars. Hunter McGregor
is our guy in Shanghai. The trade war is well
and truly on between China and the US. But who's
(01:19):
going to blink first? Jim Hopkins, rural raconteur who finds
the Paris climate accord No joke. All that to do
on the show today. Michelle will have rural news and
I'll have sports news for you, and there will be
a bit of sports sprinkled through because we're talking to
the All Blacks Captain. Looking forward to that one the
PM to kick off the show Wednesday's on the the
(02:00):
Prime Minister kicks off the show. And it's a bit
of a bugger if you don't mind me saying, Christopher
Lux And when you're doing my homework for me, you
sent me a text last night about Chinese milk production.
I had no idea.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Yeah, look, I just thought it was an interesting one
of those looking through my reading and just sort of
saying that actually Chinese local domestic milk production will be
down this year, and obviously that means I've got huge
more demand for product from New Zealand and other places
as well. So I mean, look, I mean we've been
through a tough time. We're coming out of a recession.
The economy is now growing, which is good, but what's
powering us through is agriculture as always, and when you
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look at what the outlook is for dairy seeing when
you took Nason Guy and the Red Meat guys are
feeling really positive about the year ahead, and then you know,
right there, you know, you've got the better wall price
than I've had probably in the last eight years. Still
a challenge in war obviously, but better than it has been.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
So.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
Yeah, yet again agriculture leading us through, which is why
it's a that bone of economy and why I want
to keep powering it up.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Yeah. Chinese milk production for the first time in seven years,
has reduced down two point eight percent for twenty two
before forecast to decline further in twenty twenty five. Courtesy
of Christopher Luckson. Okay, dairy conversions have been a hot
topic on the show this week. Are they now well
and truly back on the table as one of the
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ways we can double our exports within a decade?
Speaker 7 (03:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
Look, I mean we want we want dairy pumping, you know,
we really do, and we actually want all the primary
industries to be growing and to innovate. And I think
when you look at what's happening in dairy, we can
certainly be more productive with current stock numbers, and we're
looking at ways, as you know, to sort of be
much more permissius and in productive with the way we
get land usee using across the system as well. So
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look im in the bottom line for us is we
just want growth. I mean, we're ruthlessly obsessed on it.
We want dairy growing strongly. It's good to see all
the value added technology that's coming into deiry that's leading
to those premium prices because there's good innovation and value
add taking place, which is really good. But we also, Jamie,
I mean for the farmers listening, we've all they had
really good growth in our services exports as well. So
(04:03):
you know, if you look at the UK, for example,
where I was this last week, our exports total exports
are up twenty one percent and it's a sort of
a good mix of goods and services, and actually our
technology companies are actually selling well. We're obviously getting good
inbound growth on tourism. I think tourism value was up
sixty percent, by the numbers were up just ten percent,
so we're getting the right kind of people coming in
(04:25):
and spending money again in the economy. So all of
that's positive. You know, we've got certainly some challenging times
ahead with the global trade environment and tariff environment, but
it's all about our relative competitiveness compared to other countries
and can we outcompete them?
Speaker 7 (04:39):
And yes we can.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Nicola will escape her pre budget speech yesterday. This one's
going to be the tightest budget in a decade, billions
cut from operating spending. Are we on the verge of
becoming a banana republic? Because I can tell you some
ways you could easily save some money. Prime Minister, you've
probably heard all this before. How about the winter energy
payment to people like me?
Speaker 7 (05:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (05:02):
Well, firstly, I just say, look, absolutely not. We're not
becoming a banana a public. This is a country with
a huge potential and a great potential and great future
ahead of it. But you know what Nichols acknowledging is
that things aren't easy for New Zealand and for the world.
We've got a lot of instability out there and uncertainty
out there. But having said that, our focus for our
budget's going to be all about economic growth and that
(05:24):
means yet we're overseeing a very steady economic recovery. We've
got an export lead growth, you know, starting to strengthen,
We've got business confidence rising. Are the primary sectors starting
to get on song?
Speaker 7 (05:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (05:35):
But hang on, the Prime Minister even answered my question.
You're paying Winston Peters a winter energy payment. He doesn't
need it, Jamie Macaire peys, Yes, yeah, well I am more.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
Than welcome to give it away my friends.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Yeah, well I can give it away, but it would
be better staying in the government coffers. See the other
one they're throwing out there, and this is a really
interesting one, is the Key We Savor subsidy. This is
big money. This is one point one billion the winter
energy payments, like half a in. But you know, I've
had mixed feelings on this one because I think Key
We Save it is a magnificent thing. And anything that
(06:08):
encourages Key Wes to save. Are you getting your five
hundred and twenty one bucks each a year if you
put in just over one thousand should be encouraged.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
Look, there's we'll have to get. You know, we're obviously
working pretty closer to the budget now and we have
to be careful about what we can save before that
budget's announced. But you know, rest assured we when we're
making we're doing we're getting our books in order, and
what we're doing is making sure we're reprioritizing the spending
to get it in the right places, and therefore that
does mean, yes, that some agencies and government departments are
(06:37):
going to have to manage really tightly from the budgets
that they've got.
Speaker 6 (06:40):
That's good.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
They've got to make sure they swept that money harder
and get better value for money from that spent, which
is what you do in a business, It's what you
do with your family finances, what we expect the government
agencies to be doing.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
You realize where the most important saving could come from,
don't you. Age of eligibility for national super I don't
want to mention Winston yet again, but if he wasn't
drawing breath or in Parliament, you and Seymour would move
this to sixty seven that would save us a fortune.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
Yeah, look, definitely very much big part of our policy
and we think that's a good idea. We think, you know,
the population I think is aging. Average age goes up
about a year and a half every ten years across
New Zealand, and that's why we've always had thecated we
should listen to the retirement age. But as you know,
we're in coalition government and that's not something that needs
own first supports. So feel free to talk to onson about.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
It, tail wagging the dog. Now we've got our pality right, Yeah, Okay,
I accept that we got our pound of flesh well
and truly out of you on your latest offshore trip
talking trade and defense with Secare Starmer, the Gallipoli Dawn Service,
and then the Pope's funeral. I don't want to call
it a matted bonus, but it was good that you
(07:43):
were able to be there.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Look, it was a big week last week. I mean
I was really pleased with the trip to the UK
in particular. I think, you know, we've had a lot
of historical ties.
Speaker 6 (07:53):
To the UK.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
Obviously similar value, similar history, similar outlook on the world,
but now with defense and what we want to do
together in that space, along with the FTA and how
we build more meat onto the bones of that. When
you see our exports as I set up twenty one
percent to the UK, our guys are understanding the opportunities
they are in that market, and it's a good market
for us to be invested in. So that now gives
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us things to feed into a future relationship. Defense and
trade deliberately was pretty powerful, Jamie. I mean to go
there on the Dawn Service and give that speech and
then be able to do some do another speech at
chunnick Bear at the top of the hell where we
lost a huge amount of troops was pretty sobering. It
was sobering because just the day before I'd been down
(08:37):
meeting probably one hundred and fifty Ukrainian soldiers and they
were guys that were chefs and plumbers that have been
out fighting in Ukraine had come across to the UK
to be trained by New Zealand and British troops. We've
trained fifty four thousand Ukrainian soldiers and they were going
back into warfare in a matter of days. They were
going to be back at the front lines again in
the trenches. And there they are in Ukraine and trench
(08:59):
warfare with drones, and one hundred and ten years ago
we were at Gillipoli and trenches as well. So and
in the Pope's funeral, I mean pretty great man. I
mean the massive determination for his cause and his church,
but also massive amounts of personal humility and that's always
what I admire and good leaders. And there was a
chance also just to with probably fifteen or so other
leaders that I got to chat with, and I'm informally
as well, which was all right.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Christopher Luxan, thanks for your time. I appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
Appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
Jamie, you have a great week.
Speaker 8 (09:26):
Sorry about that.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
It is sixteen after twelve, Michelle, You're in trouble obviously.
That was recorded earlier this morning.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Michelle, I don't know why you had it on.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
If you hadn't done such a great job with digging
up music from nineteen eighty five, I would scold you,
Michelle publicly, but I'm not going to because you've gone
to nineteen eighty five.
Speaker 9 (09:47):
Why nineteen eighty five? Because I was reading about The
Breakfast Club, which is one of my favorite movies of
all time. The cast actually reunited for the first time
in forty years a couple of weeks ago, and they
were talking about what would happen if it was made now.
But I don't think it would work now. You haven't
seen the brief?
Speaker 4 (10:02):
No, I haven't seen it. No, I can't believe I
didn't see it because I was in my prime in
nineteen eighty five.
Speaker 9 (10:07):
Classic classic movie. You must watch it.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Yeah, so music from nineteen eighty five. This is a
good reminder for me here, Michelle. I'm going to let
you off completely for your technical erar because I'm in
charge of the music at the Riversdale Rugby Club reunion
of the champion nineteen eighty five side, and we'll be
playing songs from nineteen eighty five. I think I'll go
with a bit of Aha, Talking Heads, Mental as Anything,
(10:33):
Tears for Fars Foreigner Murray Head One Night in Bangkok.
Speaker 9 (10:39):
Yeah, great song classic.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
We don't need another hero Tina Turner, but I'm a donner.
She was sort of quintessential nineteen eighty five. Up next,
we're going to tell you how you can win that
Kai Walker ki Walker Parker worth four hundred and sixty
nine dollars alright, because we're going to talk to the
(11:02):
Kaiwalker brand ambassador Scott Barrett before the end of the hour.
We're heading to Shanghai. Hunter McGregor, our guy over there
who's going to blink first in the Chinese US trade war.
And Jim Hopkins haven't heard from him for a while.
On the Paris Climate Accord. It's all on the country,
(11:49):
all this week. On the country. We've got a wonderful
giveaway from the team at Kaiwaker Clothing. We've got a
storm Force Parker worth four hundred and sixty nine dollars
to give away. We'll tell you you can win one
of those in a tick. But we thought, because we're
doing this promotion with Kyle Walker, we'd speak to their
brand ambassador this week, none other than All Blacks Captain
(12:10):
Scott Barrett. Scott, thanks for some of your time. I
realized you're a busy man. Am I still correct in
calling you the All Blacks Captain? Has Raiser confirmed the
job for twenty five Um?
Speaker 10 (12:21):
Yeah, I don't know, I think, yeah, I guess we
assume that still captain. Yeah, they're going to keep playing
well for the Crusaders and hopefully that doesn't change.
Speaker 6 (12:32):
So yeah, it's yeah, I'd still like to have the job.
Speaker 10 (12:36):
And that's my folks at the moment, is to keep
playing well for the Crusaders. And you turn up in
July ready to go for the All works.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Well, I'm sure you will be the All Blacks Captain. Look,
you Crusaders, and I'm in Highlander's territory here, Scott. You're
getting annoyingly good again. It was better last year when
you were useless. And I say I say that somewhat facetiously,
but the Crusaders are looking menacingly menacing.
Speaker 10 (13:01):
Yeah, I think the last three or four games is
sort of you've built a bit of confidence within the
team and certainly the team without the ball at the moment. Yeah,
defense has been pretty strong, so I think that's pleasing
to see we've made shifts from last year.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
You certainly have all right. Hey, yeah, I note that
you've got a share in a dairy farm, not you
and your mum and dad's farm, Robin and Smiley. They've
got like a picture perfect farm there on coastal Taranaki.
You've got one up the road. Do you ever get
your hands dirty these days? Or do you get the
opportunity in the time to get your hands dirty wearing
your kaiwaka parker on the farm.
Speaker 6 (13:41):
I haven't had too many opportunities.
Speaker 10 (13:43):
We had a working bee there late last year and
you got out there marked in for a day or two,
but time's pretty limited and being based down in christ Church.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
Yeah, it is nice to have an interest in.
Speaker 10 (13:58):
The farm on the coast and Tartannak, and it's good
to keep the mind ticking over outside of rugby as well.
So I've certainly enjoyed that the last last season and
it was looking like a great season for us until
about January when yeah, the man upstairs turned the tap
off the irrigator and she tried up pretty quickly.
Speaker 6 (14:20):
But I think we're bounce and back. Yeah, after a
bit of rain recently.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Well, your brother's Bowden and Geordie have probably got a
bit of spare cash splashing about. Are they involved with you?
Speaker 10 (14:31):
JORDI is he's he's interested in agriculture. Body, I think
he's not in this farm with us.
Speaker 6 (14:40):
He's got a few other things going on.
Speaker 10 (14:41):
And you know, it's good to be in partnership with
the with Jordy and learn about, you know, operating dairy farm.
Speaker 6 (14:49):
It's been a great experience so far.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Were you born and raised on one all eight of
you obviously, but you went down to Lincoln UNI and
studied agriculture. So is that going to be your oltimate
future in that industry once you've retired from rugby?
Speaker 2 (15:03):
I'm talking Scott, Yeah, potentially.
Speaker 10 (15:06):
I talked to the wife a little bit around you know,
going into the drying and I think it's probably one
of those things you don't know if you unless you
give it a go. So yeah, certainly there might be
an option to you know, just give it a crack
for a couple of years and see if it's for us.
But until then, I'll keep chasing the rugby boy around
(15:26):
the footy field.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
How did you get the job as the brand ambassador
for Kywalker.
Speaker 10 (15:31):
Yeah, I've got an agent who put me in touch
with the team up there and the Far North, and yeah,
we've sort of got talking and they are such a
great fit in a local New Zealand company that's been
around for you know a few decades, and you know,
they make great kid and I think the fit was
(15:53):
quite right. And then from a dairy farm, they were
keen to have me on board.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Yeah, well I've been or they're celebrating two hundred seasons.
I fifty years of farming and making the jackets. You're
nowhere near that with your rugby career, but you must
be getting close to twenty years eighty seasons, are you.
Speaker 10 (16:14):
Yeah, so I think I'm thirty one now and I've
been playing since you know, six or seven. Yeah, so
it's not quite two hundred seasons, but it's certainly get
not there.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Scott Barrett, Look, thank you very much for some of
your time today on the Country it's great to have
the son of because we enjoy yarning to your old
man Smiley, he's a bit of a character and a
very good farmer. I might add two in the Taranaki region. Look,
do you know what the game of footy I'm most
looking forward to this year and no doubt you guys
will be as well, because Eden Park is your fortress.
(16:47):
You're playing the South African rugby side arguably the best
team in the world at the moment. At Eden Park,
you guys haven't lost there since nineteen ninety four. That's
a hell of a lot of seasons. How good is
that game going to be?
Speaker 10 (17:01):
Yeah, I think it's going to be a huge game
I was seeing. I guess the South Africans over the
past you know, six or seven years have been right
up the top and you know they'll love to come
down and break that record. So yeah, it's certainly you know,
got the highlighter around it as a game of the year.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
Scott Barrett, a Kaiwalker clothing ambassador or brand ambassador. Thank
you very much for your time today on the country.
Appreciate it. Ensure your weekend off. I know the Crusaders
have got to buy really looking forward to your next
game on May the tenth against the Chiefs. It'll be
a cracker as well. Top of the table. See you later,
see you. Thanks Jammy for you, Thank you Scott. Good
(17:44):
to have the All Blacks Captain on the show. What
a great farming and footy family, the Barretts are.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
That test at Eden Park, it's got to be the best.
It'll be the best game of rugby between rugby World Cups,
I think. Saturday September the sixth, seven five pm All
Blacks versus South Africa the spring Box at Eden Park.
We haven't lost there since the French scored the try
from the End of the World in nineteen ninety four. Incidentally,
(18:13):
Tony Brown plays golf for our golf club here in Dunedin,
the Bell McEwan Golf Club, the Otago Golf Club. So
we try and get into his head to weep it
and try and weasel some information out of him. And
he doesn't say much, but I think he's quietly confident
the spring Box will do the job. He is, of
course their attack coach. The All Blacks should have got him.
(18:33):
That's for real. Radio. If you want to win one
of those storm Force Parkers with four hundred and sixty
nine dollars from Kywaker Clothing. If they're good enough for
Scott Barrett to wear when he's out farming, they're good
enough for all of you guys. So this is what
you need to do. You need to text the keyword
(18:54):
win win to five double nine. Tell us how many
seasons so you've been farming? Not years, seasons? Four seasons
in a year. Don't forget your name and where you're
listening from. They are brilliant, brilliant farm gear, especially when
it starts to rain. Michelle who won yesterday's prize, Yes.
Speaker 9 (19:17):
Yesterday's winner of the storm Force Parker was a dean
from Mount Curl, which is near Manawatu Wanganui area. Now
they sent to st.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
What about some South Islanders?
Speaker 9 (19:28):
You will get some South Island.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
There's Eggmont village yesterday and.
Speaker 9 (19:32):
We're working our way. I don't know. Actually my geography
is now great? Is that down?
Speaker 6 (19:36):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (19:37):
You need to think of the poor old Southlanders.
Speaker 9 (19:39):
We're heading that way, or some of.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Those poor buggers on the West coast. It rains all
the time there anyhow where you go.
Speaker 9 (19:45):
Well, this one's actually quite a good story that we
got with it. So they're desperate. They're in desperate need
of rain in that area. So And feels that if
she wore the jacket Murphy's law, they might get some rain.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Well that's a good that's a fair call. We've got
to get to South Island on tom robles. Actually the
trouble is we don't get to pick them do they
they're done. They've done on Auckland. That's probably why we're
getting North Ireland win There's nothing wrong with North Ireland winners.
We just want to keep it balanced. Songs from nineteen
eighty five, Ah, it might make my cup for the
(20:20):
disco playlist for the Riversdale nineteen eighty five rugby reunion.
Remember Remembered a plight a reply. We're standing room only
in the Riversdale Bowls Club for the dinner. Up next
it's rural news and sports news, the.
Speaker 11 (20:50):
Jess World in a show with everything and juwel rinner.
Really I'll change. Don't you know that when you play
at this level there's no ordinary venue jan the Philippines.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
This is definitely making the disco playlist anyhow, Stop going
on about nineteen eighty five from the musical Chess Murray
Head one night in Bangkok, Okay, one day in Dunedin.
His Michelle Watt with the latest th rural news.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
The country's world news with Coup Cadet, New Zealand's leading
right on lawn Bower brand. Visit steel Ford dot co
dot nzim for your local stogist.
Speaker 9 (21:40):
And of course Field Days is just around the corner,
probably less than fifty days now, I think must be
just over a month, and I've got some news from there.
Sir William Gallagher has been awarded a National Field Day's
Life membership and recognition of his decade long contribution to
the event and New Zealand's aggt.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
It's that decade or decades. It's got to be decades dead, Yeah,
it'll be decades. He's been there since day one, says Galagher's.
Speaker 9 (22:05):
Yeah, for two decades they've been. They've run the legendary
fence building competitions at field Days and he's also been
part of Field Days since the very beginning. So that's
a long time, isn't it to be part of something?
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Well, one of New Zealand's iconic agricultural companies, and Sir
William S bill great bloke, so very humble for a
man who's achieved everything he's achieved in life.
Speaker 9 (22:28):
And that's the ruin news. Have you got sports news
in front of you there?
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Not really, I'm just listening to music from nineteen eighty five.
I might just can the rest of the show. That
might upset Jim Hopkins.
Speaker 8 (22:39):
No, I'll do sports.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
News, Sport with afco Kiwi to the Bone since nineteen
oh four.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Okay, and when we get to sports news, sorry, just
queuing up that song. Are Wallaby's coach in waiting? Les
Kiss is relieved and agreement has been found that we'll
see Joe Schmidt continue in the job until the team's
new mentor is able to take over. Schmidt will coach
beyond has planned exit after this year's Rugby Championship, instead
(23:09):
adding the end of year tour as well as the
start of the New Nations Championship in July twenty twenty six.
And then I think Les Kiss has to do his
thing with the Queensland Reds and then he takes over
and he's an interesting one. On the tennis, Novak Djokovic
is twenty four not out and that where that's where
it might end for him because his immediate future ahead
(23:32):
of next month's French Tennis Open is unclear after he
withdrew from the Italian Open. The twenty four time Grand
Slam champion. When did I say twenty four or twenty six?
I think I said twenty four, didn't four? Yeah, has
lost his last three matches, defeated first up in Miami,
Monte Carlo and Madrid. And age catches up on everybody,
(23:55):
and it looks like it's catching up on him. A
lot of debate as to whether he's the greatest smale
tennis player.
Speaker 8 (24:01):
Of all time.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
I'd go with Roger Federer. Everyone likes Roger. Some people say,
what's the spaniard's name?
Speaker 2 (24:09):
The left?
Speaker 4 (24:09):
He helped me out here?
Speaker 9 (24:11):
Oh, it's gone on from my brain now, I can
see his face in my head.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
Yeah, I'll come back to him. He's one about twenty
I think, or twenty two cal.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
I'm shocked.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
I can't remember. Age does catch up with everybody, and
it's catching up with me. That really annoys me that
I can't remember that, But I will. But up next
we're heading from Europe and all those losses. Novak's having
Tom to have you.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Got the answer?
Speaker 9 (24:36):
I have someone just check of course it does.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Gee, I think it might be time to pull the
pin up next Hunter McGregor and Shanghai. I could just
go on to retirement and play music from nineteen eighty five.
(25:13):
Our guy in Shanghai is Hunter MacGregor, Roxburgh born and bred,
but he's living in the Big Smoke now selling venison,
amongst other things, to the Chinese. Now. We spoke to
Christopher Luxe and a little bit earlier on the show
Hunter and he said where he brought to the table
the fact that Chinese raw milk production was dropping. That's
got to be good for New Zealand exporters.
Speaker 6 (25:35):
Yeah, good afternoon, Jamie.
Speaker 12 (25:36):
Yeah, it has to be a positive for the New
Zealand dairy farmer, so, which is good. You know, you've
got to have a bit of positivity out there, and
there's plenty of challenges floating around with tariffs and and
what's happening between the China and US. So you know,
a nice positive sign for a dairy farmer.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
So we'll take that absolutely.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
How do you read the Mexican standoff? Actually I mentioned
the wrong country, the Mexican, Canadian or Chinese standoff? Is
it going to be who blinks? First between the US
and China on this tariff thing very much.
Speaker 12 (26:09):
So I think, you know, the Chinese is not going
to blink first at all. You know, it's quite interesting.
Trump keeps saying that they're talking to the Chinese, and
you know, and and and things are starting to happen,
and then the Chinese come out, you know, through their
Foreign ministry and you know, saying that no, we're not
talking at all yet. So yeah, it's not good. And
(26:33):
you know, Trump and the Americans think they've got the
upper hand. Will be interesting to see when they've got
a few empty shelves coming up in the next week
while to see what happens. I see Amazon have started
charging and other other firms have started charging the tariff
component of the cost of goods now keeping that as
(26:53):
as a separate line item and in voices and things.
So there's gonna be some real pressure going on the
American side. And because please plenty of pressure here already
with factories slowing down and things like that. So you know,
there's challenges all around. There's going to be no winners.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
Talk to me about Walmart, well, you know, more.
Speaker 12 (27:11):
Much sources a lot of products obviously out of China.
They have for a long time been saying to all
their supplies move out of China and ones that you
can have already done that, and a lot of Chinese
companies are actually setting up factories in Southeast Asia. But
you know they've said to a number of supplies. You know,
you're reading some news that there said to a number
(27:33):
of supplies, keep shipping to America and we'll sort the
tariffs out. So you know, that's a little positive sign.
But you know, the other thing. Another thing that's happening
here is that some of the big Chinese companies are
stepping up to help factories here. JD dot Com, which
is like Amazon, it's a big, it's massive company. It's
(27:53):
about worth about two hundred and fifty billion New Zealand
dollars and it sells products by products and sales and
delivers it through its own network. They've said they're going
to buy probably forty five billion US dollars of product
over the next twelve months that was destined for export
to the US to help them sell it in China.
(28:15):
So some of these big companies are stepping up and
helping some of these factories.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Are you seeing any recovery in the Chinese property market.
It's a great barometer of the health of an economy.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
I guess, not a law.
Speaker 12 (28:28):
And that's a problem. That's a problem that still needs
to be fixed. It's actually our last Friday went to
Anzac Drinks, which is with our Australian friends and a
made of mine is an investment with investment firm, and
he was talking about how that problem is still there.
It's an underlying problem for everybody, especially in the big cities,
(28:50):
and when that's sorted, then the economy will really start
to turn around. And it hasn't been sorted yet. It's
still bouncing along the bottom the housing market, and you know,
there's still a little bit of work to do to
sort it out. Let's see what happens if there's going
to be some stimulus or some support to turn that around,
(29:11):
because that's a big it's still a bit major problem.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Shanghai, where you're based, has the most magnificent skyline of
any city in the world, especially the bit on the
other side of the water. I'm not sure what area
you call it, but you've got the Shanghai Tower six
hundred and thirty two meters hunter. I know this because
I've got to re statue in my office. You've got
the Shanghai World Financial Center and the Oriental Pearl of
(29:36):
Beautiful building, just to name three of them. But you've
been on a tall building on the other side of
the water.
Speaker 12 (29:42):
Well, I haven't been on it yet. We've got May
Day holidays here, so for the first of the fifth
of mayor on holidays. So but you know, so that
you're talking about the Pudong side with all the tall
buildings on the Puchi side of just opened a tower
well observation deck on the tallest building which is on
the Pouchey side, which is only which is three hundred
(30:05):
and twenty meters tall, and it looks and it's actually
a helicopter landing pad. So you go out and you
go outside. So I'm looking forward to going there. And
you know the trick about seeing the Shanghai skyline, you
want to go at daylight, see dusk, and then at
sea at night because at the light the lights at
nighttime are pretty spectacular. So that's the plan at some
(30:25):
point in the next in the next holiday to go
and check it out.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
And looking forward to almost as good as the bright
lights of Roxburgh minus your picture theater.
Speaker 12 (30:35):
Yes almost well there was bright lights from the picture
theater burned down unfortunately, so hopefully they can rebuild that soon.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
You've still got the best golf course in the country.
Got to go, Hunter McGregor. Thank you very much for
your time from Shanghai.
Speaker 8 (30:48):
Enjoyed the skyline, Yes, thanks Jammy, Wow.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
Welcome back to the country. Just got a weak text
and from my old mate Graham Smith from the Whitecaddow
and Coramandel. I think he's expanding his empire the Drug
Detection Agency somewhat, I thought, harshly and cruelly saying to me,
I thought you and your Riversdale footy mates were and
would have been into George Michael and Wham and nineteen
(31:30):
eighty five Kila Swhisper. No, we weren't, Graham, we weren't
at all. We were into Keela Swhisper at the Riversdale
Rugby Club.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
In nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
No one likes a correct to Smith, but her year's right.
I don't mind a wee bit of George Michael yourself, Michelle, I.
Speaker 9 (31:46):
Don't mind George Minae. He was a good singer.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Early George Michael, Early George Michael up next, Old old
Jim Hopkins.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
He's up next.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
See I haven't caught up with this bloke for a while,
so I thought i'd brush the cobwebs off. Jim Hopkins
Rural rack on tour, Whititaki District Councilor and Jim. I
don't know whether you heard the Christopher Luxeen interview, but
we were talking about the age of eligibility for National
super moving it from sixty five to sixty seven. That
(32:28):
won't affect you because that ship has long since sailed.
How are you keeping living.
Speaker 7 (32:34):
Your route Clunker? For the record, I want to make
it clear that there are no there are no cobwebs
or flies on me, and I'm keeping front fine. Thank
you very much, and your good self. I take it
to your well. You sound to me as they've been
getting around in a sort of executive world. You're the
kind of media, the rural media equipment of Kim Kardashian,
(32:54):
living in the sort of elevate, rare ified environment of golf.
And that's whizzing here and whizzing in there.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
And golf's not a pleasure, it's a punishment for me.
I dropped your text the other day, So I said,
how about coming on because we don't know how much
longer you've got left. Of course, gym, no, I'm just joking,
but come on the show. And I said to you,
throw me a couple of topics. You come up with
the Paris Accord debate. I know that you mightn't heard Luxeon,
but you definitely heard Bryce McKenzie the other day. A
(33:25):
lot of what he said was good old fashion down
on the West Otago Farm, common sense.
Speaker 7 (33:31):
Absolutely. I mean, if you look at it, no one
has challenged the proposition that our contribution to global warming
is nought point one seven percent of the total point
one seven percent.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Jacinda would say to you, we've got to do our
bit on the world stage.
Speaker 7 (33:49):
Well, let's respect, we've got to play our part. We've
got to be leaders. You know, Look, there's no point
being a leader if the real polluters aren't leading anyone
anywhere except garden Path. And that's exactly what they're doing,
because they're either pulling out of the Powers Accord, or
have pulled out of it, or are paying lip service
to it but actually do nothing. The world is essentially
(34:11):
turning away from the Powers Accord, and we're saying, oh no, no,
we have to stay in it. My thought is this,
let's have a comparison. Suppose you're worried about crime. Now,
if you have a police force and you're worried about crime,
what's your priority. You want them to hunt that mercilessly
hump down everyone with an unpaid parking ticket, or do
(34:32):
you want them to focus first on assault, violence and murder?
And if you look at that in a climate change context,
why chase the law point one seven percent of the
measure when you can be and should be chasing the
heavy headers or heavy emissas. The ones who are as
I say considering, have already pulled out of the Paris Accord.
(34:54):
The only reason I can see for staying in that
accord is the fear that certain parties overseas might make
us a sacrificial lamp and make a high profile announcement
that if we pulled out, certain products or certain contracts
(35:15):
would be null and voided.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Yes, the likes of Nesle and the Known.
Speaker 7 (35:19):
But I'm not sure that's the case because they've recently
done deals on a cost basis rather than a climate
change basis. So I mean, in the end, we would
probably just keep watching brief on that, but my guess
is that the bottom line is that those companies are
(35:40):
going to be driven in the end by a waning
public commitment and enthusiasm and a focus on costs as
people become much more cost sensitive. What's happening in the
zield now? And listening to yourself yesterday we're interviewing Shane
Jones and talking about all these dairy conversions that I
know the Prime Minister as well. And you said, oh,
(36:02):
the New Zealand Verson, the you Winston, Shane and Winston,
do you support dairy conversions? And Shane's is hell, yes
of course we do. And Jamie Mackay, friend of the farmer,
immediately dropped out the media's favorite trope. Ah, but what
about the environment? Is this dairy and dairy alone is
the one thing that's problemly matter?
Speaker 4 (36:22):
I hang on, Jim, Devil's Advocate. I was playing Devil's advocate. Look,
I'm out of time. I just want a final comment,
like twenty seconds from you, And I know you don't
do twenty seconds very well, but seriously, and Zach Day,
it's our national day.
Speaker 7 (36:37):
I was at the dawn service here. One estimate had
that we were at more than a thousand people in attendance.
And I also spoke at down in Hamden, which is
halfway between on Maru and Palmerston. And I actually acknowledged
Sir Keith Park, who I think is actually one of
(36:58):
my great New Zealanders the twentyth century. In fact, i'd
put him up on the top top ten or top five.
He literally masterminded, will help to mastermind the first defeat
of the Germans in World War Two, that's the Battle
of Britain. Then that the defeat made all the other
victories later possible.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
This is the longest twenty seconds of my life, by
the way, he's well, he's undersung absolutely here. I'm sorry
to cut you short, but I am out of time.
It's a pleasure to catch up. I'm with Shane Jones
and Winston when it comes to the dairy conversions, as
long as they're environmentally sustainable. Hell yes, mental as anything.
(37:41):
Not Jim the band from nineteen eighty five. I'm going
to wrap it with some of your feedback and tell
you how to win that jacket next. Okay, that wraps
the country of run South of time, I'll tell you
how to win the storm Force Parker from Kywaker on
(38:05):
tomorrow's show. See You then.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
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