May 18, 2025 • 38 mins
Jamie Mackay talks to David Seymour, Sandra Faulkner, Sandra Matthews, Matt Chisholm, and Phil Duncan.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Catch you all the latest from the land. It's the
Country Podcast with Jamie mckue. Thanks to Brent You're specialist
in John dere machinery reputation. I'm a sensation. You train
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me once, you.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Gooda New Zealand. Welcome to the Country, brought to you
by Brandt. I'm Jamie mckaye. Don't blame me for the music.
Michelle's loaded me up with some disco one hit wonder
from the seventies. I'll have to change the log a
weaver hey, but we've got more serious issues to deal
with than the music selection on the show today. Going
to kick it off with a man who will when
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a couple of weeks time, will become the Deputy Prime Minister,
David Seymour.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Ask him the age old question.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Wat's in the budget this Thursday's budget for farmers. We've
got a farmer panel today, the two Sandy's from Gussies,
Sandra Faulkner and Sandra Matthews. Sandra Faulkner's Federated Farmer's Adverse
Events spokesperson and Sandra Matthews is the President of Rural
Women and z Lighting things up a wee bit with
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matt Chisholm, rural mental health advocate, raconteur and hobby farmer.
Hobby farmer in Central Otago Phil Duncan. Even his mother
is wondering where he's been because he hasn't been on
the wireless for a couple of weeks. From weather Watch,
we'll have a look at the weather as we dip our.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Toes into winter.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
We bit cold over the weekend in some places, certainly
is down south where we are at the moment. But
we've got a fine week in store, so we've got
all that to do before the end of the hour.
Let let's waste no time. David Seymour to kick the
show off. David Seymour is the act party leader and David,
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next time I speak to you on the country, you'll
be Deputy Prime Minister.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Are you counting the sleeps?
Speaker 4 (02:14):
No?
Speaker 5 (02:14):
We got a budget this week, so a bit more
worried about making sure that we're saving enough money and
putting it into the few things we can afford at
the moment that will make New Zealand a more productive
and prosperous place, while also wrangling that debt that we
inherited back down.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
We'll come back to the budget well, I'll divert to
the budget from the budget.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
That sounds a bit irish, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
But in the good old days, David Seymour, long before
your time, Rob Muldoon, Bear and backy budgets, we used
to ask in the farming fraternity, what's in the budget
for farming or for agriculture. We know better than to
ask now, nor do we expect anything. So there won't
be effectively anything in the budget for farming.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Well, there'll be stuff in there that is good for business,
and people sometimes forget that farming is a business. So no,
I think that farmers will actually be pretty happy with
at least one aspect of the budget. However, it's fair
to say that these are not easy times. These are
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hungry times. And when they're hungry times for people and
households and businesses and farms up and down the country,
it better be hungry times for the government. You'll see
that with the operating allowance, we're going to increase spending
by less than one percent this year, whereas if you
look at inflations running at two and a half, the
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populations ticked up at percent, so we're actually really pulling
back what we're spending compared with the rest of the economy,
and that is absolutely necessary after the blowout of the
preceding five years.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
So you need I was reading this morning two point
five billion of new funding just to maintain existing services.
Now you've got to figure out where that's going to
come from. And chucked in on the side of that,
you've committed something like twelve billion over the next four
years for defense, which is fine and dandy, but I
must say, David Seymour, two billion dollars for five new
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helicopters seems to be a hell of an expensive helicopter.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
Well, that was my first response. I was sitting at
a meeting. I said, you've got to be kidding. I mean,
what could be helicopters do. The thing is, you're not
just buying a chopper. You're buying the whole system of
maintenance and parts and all the stuff that goes around it. So, yeah,
it does sound like a lot of money for a helicopter.
(04:45):
You know, it's almost more expensive per helicopter than one
of those Donald Trump gift jets. However, it's built more
a weapon system that you're buying rather than just the
bear chopper.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Well, I'm pleased to hear that, and I hope the
Air Force does a better job of looking after its
choppers than the Navy does with its boats.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
Well, we're trying to move on from that, Jane, all right.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Okay, So okay, you've got to find this money from somewhere.
So where where might it come from? And I know
you can't talk too much ahead of the budget obviously
means testing the key. We say a contribution from the
government would be a bit of a no brainer, wouldn't it.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
Well, if it was, I hope we hadn't missed a
no brainer. But it's also possible that we have reasons
that you might not have thought of. So who knows
about that one?
Speaker 2 (05:37):
But why should someone I don't know earning one hundred
grand or more, even earning sixty or seventy grand or
more get a subsidy from the government. I can understand
why people at the bottom of the rung might need it,
But if you're earning one hundred grand, David, why do
you need a subsidy from the government.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
I'm not leaking the budget details here, but because I
love Debake, I'll give you here's one reason why. Once
you get over about seventy grand are you paying thirty
three cents in the dollar in tax? So why should
somebody who pays additional taxes, far more taxes than someone
on a lower income not only get tax harder, but
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also have all the benefits cut off from them at
that's one argument you could make, not saying it's true
or I believe it, but that's the answer to your question.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
More public sector cuts in order how much more fat
can you trim from the public sector.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
We'll put it this way. When Grant Robertson came in,
the last government on our side had just spent a
budget of seventy six billion dollars. The budget that we
inherited when we got back in six years later was
one hundred and thirty eight billion dollars. So you do
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the maths. They increase spending by fifty two billion in
six years, and yep, there was in fation, and yep
a pandemic came and went during that period. But that
doesn't explain a sixty eight percent increase fifty two billion
dollars of extra spending in six years. And all we're
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doing is going through and it's taken a while to
find where all the land mines are buried. All we're
doing is going through canceling stuff that doesn't add up
and putting in place investments that will actually secure our
future as a country.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
When will we get a government that's brave enough to
do something around the age of eligibility for national super
Labour doesn't want to do it, Winston doesn't want to
bar of it. You would like to National would like
to Why don't you do something with luxon and just
call Winston out?
Speaker 6 (07:46):
Well.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
I heard Chris say that he supports it on the
radio this morning, and I was a little bit surprised
because the National Party's policy is to start raising the
age of superannuation in twenty four four. Previously, their policy
when they first announced it was to do it in
twenty thirty seven. So even a twenty year delay was
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not enough and they pushed it back another seven years.
If the nets are up for it, then, so we
know that there will be people who say, we believe that.
You know, some people have hard physical jobs and it's
hard to keep working. I believe we can solve that problem.
It's not worth sending the entire country broke because you
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can't solve that problem. And I believe there's ways you
can do it. So you know, I believe that we
have a duty to start being honest with New Zealanders
because if we don't get our spending under control, then
the fiscal gap, the deficit that is growing and growing
and will keep growing through the twenty thirties, it will
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have to be plugged another way. And you've seen the
Greens budget thirty three percent tax on all capital assets
over a million bucks. So if you've got a five
million dollar dairy farm and you transfer it down to
another generation, you pay thirty three percent on the four
million that's over the first million. That's one point three
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million dollars of Britain's tax. Giving your dairy farm to
your kids, if it's the average value, now that is
totally irresponsible. It will destroy his elin. But if we
don't get our spending under control, somebody eventually is going
to be elected. Are they going to put new taxes
on your assets?
Speaker 2 (09:36):
You must look at just a final comment, you must
look at the Greens and to Party Mary, who are
as nutty as the fruitcake, and think, you know, whatever
Chris Sipkins does, he's in a no win situation. He
cannot form a coalition with those two political parties or
in one case, Activist Party, because they're unelectable.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Well, I prefer the Canadian term nuttier than squirrel. And
you're absolutely right. These people it's not so much that
the numbers don't add up. It's that deep down they
actually believe numbers don't need to add up, and it's
all about the vibe. So I would say that, you know,
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the importance of keeping the other guys out has never
been greater. However, I also just say, look that that
doesn't mean that we can coast and that's why I'm
an ACT We've got to keep this government, but we've
also got to keep pushing to make it better, as
we have through this budget process. To save whenever possible,
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reduce des and invest only when it is going to
give us a return for the future.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
David Seymour, Act Party Leader, thank you for your time
on the country. Next time we chat. Next time we chat,
I'm going to call you Deputy Dave.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
You can call me whatever you like, Deputy day double
d if you like.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
See you later, ye, Thank you, David. Eighteen after twelve.
Some of your feedback coming in on David Seymour legend.
Here's one on the age of eligibility for National super
I might have to vet that one and read it
before I publicly announce it. But what I can publicly
announce is today is your lucky day. If you want
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to go to Field Days, We've got one more double
pass to give away. And I'm hoping good afternoon, Michelle. Yeah,
I'm hoping that our smelling lesson over the last five
days hasn't been in vain. So if you want to
go to Field Days, We've got a double pass for
your text Field Days. It's one word I before E
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and text that to five double oh nine, your name
and where you're listening from, and we will announce the
winner of that final pass to Field Days on tomorrow's show.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
But who won Friday's pass?
Speaker 7 (11:58):
Michelle, it's Friday's pass. This was Mike Lunnon from Napiers.
Congratulations Mike.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
You're about to drive the well, yeah, the Napier Talpo Highway,
won't you, and then whip up the road up to
the trim From there.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Nice drive, m You go through Esk Valley. Have you
ever done that? Driven?
Speaker 7 (12:16):
I've never been to Napier.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Actually, well, you're missing out it's the deco capital of
the country. But you know it's a nice drive. You
do drive and I did it a couple of years ago,
admittedly through Esk Valley. You know, after all the trauma
of cyclone Gabrielle, it looked a real mess. I hope
it's tidy and now I must must do that wonderful
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drive again. It's great country through there and talking about
cyclone Gabrielle. Up next to our farmer panel on the
Country who both had to live through it. There are
a couple of Gisbon farmers who wear other hats as well.
The two Sandy's from Gussie I'm calling them Federated Farmers,
Adverse Events spokesperson Sandra Faulkner and Rural Women en Z
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President Sandra Matthews. I'm going to get my Sandras confused here,
I can see that. So they're up next on the
Country Matchism and Phil Duncan.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Before the end of the hour.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
It's been like herding cats trying to get this panel together,
but I've eventually got them. The two Sandra's from Guzzy,
Sandra Matthews, head of Rural Women in ZED, and Sandra Faulkner,
who's Federated Farmer's Adverse Events spokesperson. Let's start with weather
and track conditions where you both come from, Poverty Bay,
East Coast. Pretty good season, I understand. I'll start with you.
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I'll go alphabetically. I'll go with Faulkner before Matthews.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Hello, Sandra, Hi Jamie.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
It's great to be talking with you again.
Speaker 8 (13:50):
We're having the most fantastic grass growing season up here.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
It's there's no other way to describe.
Speaker 8 (13:56):
It aside from bloody, marvelous, frankly, and it's a rare
thing for us.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
How far apart do you two guys live.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
We're about forty five minutes.
Speaker 8 (14:05):
Yeah, so I'm south of Gasban City and.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
Andra's out west.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Okay, Sandra from out west? You sound like something from
Outrageous Fortune, don't you take it? Your faring equally well
on your phone?
Speaker 9 (14:17):
Yeah, Hi Jamie, Yeah we are. We've had a really
good season, one of the lucky ones. I think the
East Coast has deserved a good season for a change,
and lambs are just astronomically doing astronomically well. The cattle
are looking great and there's actually grasp.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
So that's good.
Speaker 9 (14:33):
And we've got a bit of water. So yeah, absolutely stoked.
If you call me Sandra and Sandra, If Sandra, that
will differentiate us, I think because I'm the Aussie and
she's the pee.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Week all right, Sandra and Sandra. I'll never remember that.
I'll go back to I'm just going to call you
by your surnames. I think fuk V Matthews. It will
be easier. Okay, Forkner, you are working with Matthews. This
is Federated Farmers working in with rural women in z
regarding your submissions around natural disasters.
Speaker 8 (15:07):
So the consultation is open at the moment around the
new Civil Defense and Emergency Management legislation. It's something that
the rural community is deeply engaged with because of course
we all know that when Mother Nature throws her toys,
quite often.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
It's it's farmers that get out there first. Because you know,
for us.
Speaker 8 (15:33):
Recovery starts the morning when you pull your boots on.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
After an event. There's there's very little opportunity to have
the four hours, you know, the reduction, the readiness, the
response and recovery.
Speaker 8 (15:45):
We just we just full on dealing with it and
it comes in form of recovery. So what we've gone
out for and asked for and advocated strongly for. Is
a primary sector liaison role which sits embedded within the
SIN structure, and it all gets a bit acronymy and
I do apologize for that, but it sits alongside health
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and safety and logistics and intelligence and everything else.
Speaker 6 (16:10):
Because the group of control is that I.
Speaker 8 (16:12):
Talk to up and down this country really want to
know that they have one conjured, one liaison that speaks
to our rural communities, our rural businesses and the organizations
that support them in an event.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Okay, rural women, as Sandra Matthews is celebrating one hundred
years not out this year.
Speaker 9 (16:32):
We are and we won't be out for another one
hundred or another two hundred years.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
Jamie.
Speaker 9 (16:35):
We've got our centennial coming up, starting off in July
with a wonderful event over in Taranaki where one of
the first meetings was, and then we have a whole
year of celebrations culminating in a whopping great event event
in Willington in July twenty twenty six. Very exciting year
for real women New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Because there was a tie up with Federated Farmers back
in the day wasn't there, won't you? The Women's Division
of Federated Farmers. Was that one of your names? Your
pre existing names?
Speaker 6 (17:05):
That was one of them, Jamie.
Speaker 9 (17:06):
The Women's Division Federated Farmers. We came out in nineteen
twenty five from the Farmers' Union. So a group of
women got together while the memory at their conference and said, hey,
we need to look at supporting and networking women around
the country. So not long after, one of the women
that came together, I think there were sixteen, came together
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and one of them wrote two thousand letters and posts
them all around the country. And that's how rural Women
got started, well Women's Division back then of the Farmers Union.
So it's been a long journey and we've done some
amazing things over the last hundred years, and we continue
to do amazing things today.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Sandra Faulkner with Federated Farmers, Sandra Matthews with Rover Woman.
I just want to finish by asking the pair of you,
you're talking about natural disasters. Of course you had Gabrielle,
which was the mother of all national disasters, and every
time I chat to the pair of you since it happened,
what are we twenty twenty three. That's what two and
a half years ago, is it? You're something like that?
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So have you fully recovered on your farm? I'll stay
with you, Sandra Matthews, Jamie.
Speaker 9 (18:11):
We've just finished the outside of the painting of our
house from all the work that needed to be done
last Thursday. We still have a retaining wall on the
house to be finished off. I'm looking at my office
window and looking at the scars on the hill behind me,
but I will say we have done all our fencings.
We have done all our tracks, our culverts, our dams.
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Everything on the farm has been repaired.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Now.
Speaker 9 (18:35):
Ian's walking around with a bit of a smile on
his face because we've got grass and water and everything's
hunky dor at the moment. So yeah, it's taken two
and a half years and it's been a long road
and it's been an easy one. There has been some
very stressful times, and thank goodness, Sandra's not very far
down the road because we tend to throw a few
expleeders around occasionally between us. But it's been you know,
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it's been one of those journeys that we had to
go through and I'm actually really looking forward to things settling.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Down, Jamie, I'll bet you well, Sandra Folk and what
about your farm, Well.
Speaker 8 (19:09):
We were probably one of the lucky ones in Gabriel itself,
bearing in mind that that whole year it just rained
and rained and rained, and so we sort of watched
the farm dissolve around us later on in the year,
sort of through June.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
July through Gabriel itself.
Speaker 8 (19:26):
We didn't get hit as hard as up where Sundra Matthew's,
So that meant that I was able to get to
town be working alongside the emergency in the emergency operating center,
bringing that local knowledge, bringing that local voice, and also
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just assuring the rural listeners on the radios out around
our district that we knew that they were there and
they were front of mine for us. So that's where
Sandra and I work so closely together, because at the
heart of all of this are the families that live
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on the land, have their businesses on their land, and
support one another, true to God and bad.
Speaker 9 (20:16):
Yeah, I just want to reiterate what Sandra said, the
experience that we had during Hale and Gabrielle and I
think this is one of the things that we've talked
to our members around the country on the emergency Management review,
is that the primary sector doesn't have a voice around
those tables. And Sandra in there banging drums at the
time when we were actually cut off and had damaged
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was hugely important. So if we have somebody around that table,
it's going to enable our primary sector, our farmers, to
actually be represented. So that's where we're coming from when
we're talking about this emergency management review. So hugely important.
And I will say Sandra was the first person to
drive up my driveway the crazy woman drove through floodwaters
and I burst into tears when I saw her. And
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that was that was not long after the storms went through.
So yeah, very thankful that we have people like Sandra
and other people in this region and right down Hooks
Bay's coast that have done these things and have you know,
continued to advocate to get these changes.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Okay, to cut you so off away you go.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Final final word, Sandra Fla.
Speaker 8 (21:22):
The final word probably is an acknowledgment of our current
rural MPs, irrespective and remembering that emergency management must be bipartisan.
We can't have politics and emergency management. So I just
really wanted to have a bit of a shout out
to rural MPs up and down the length of the
country who have taken up the fight for us as well.
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So thanks to their men, Mark Mitcho and his team.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
All Right, I'm going to cut you off. I'm running
out of room. That's Faulkner and Matthews. I don't know
whether to call you Sandra or Sandra. I might just
call you the two Sandy's from Gussie. You sound like
something out of Greece the movie We've Got to Go
See You Later.
Speaker 6 (22:02):
Changeable to you, Jamie play.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Great mates, great panelists. Sandra Faulkner, Sandra Matthews. It's twenty
eight away from one. Some of your feedback you can
get us on five double O nine if you want
to text us. Muzz from Hawk's Bay Rights. This is
about you, Michelle. She's never been to Napier, she hasn't lived.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
You need to go to Napier. It's a beautiful city.
Speaker 7 (22:27):
It's on my bucket list.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
If you Here's another one saying esk Valley is munted Jamie.
And in contrast to that, if I zoom up the screen,
awe bit here someone else says Hi Jamie, you'd be
amazed at the difference driving through Esk Valley now almost
hard to believe the difference between the devastation that happened
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obviously with Gabrielle and the cleanup that's happened.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
And I'm pleased to hear that I.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Drove through there in October twenty twenty three, so Gabrielle
was February twenty twenty three. So it was looking, it
was awful. It was like it was haunting, to be honest.
So I'd love some more feedback on Esk Valley and
the recovery and the repatriation that's happening there. Up next
Rural News, Sports News, Scotti Scheffler winning the PGA Championships.
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Before the end of the hour, we lighten it up
a week but with Matt Chisholm television celebrity can I
still call them that? And Phil Duncan weather celebrity. So
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Your life and here's Michelle what fresh from a very
successful MC job and thank you for filling in for
me at the Century Farm and Station Awards. I don't
think I'll get the job back. Did you have a
good night.
Speaker 7 (25:11):
I'd a great night. I was very well looked after
a big shout out to the team at the Century
Farm Awards because they were absolutely amazing.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Well up next to bloke with a bit of a
connection to Lawrence Matches. And but not before we do
rural news.
Speaker 7 (25:23):
Yes, so in reural News, our national MP's proposing a
private member's bill to help those on the land use
their key we save it to own property. Rangatiki MP
sus Redmond wants to tweet the rules so service tenants
can use their key we saveor to buy property, both
through their own name or through a company. Currently, people
can't use a business to do that, even if they
own the business. Redmind says the idea came to her
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after one of the workers on her farm struggle with
the rules. She says, the current settings aren't fair and
I know that Federated farmers are doing a lot with that,
so we might catch up with Richard McIntyre at some point.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Yeah, Well, if you can buy a house with your key,
we save or use it for your deposit, why not
use it to help you leg into a farm?
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Why not?
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I can't believe how quick these blokes drive. A rookie
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never heard of him, has stunned the field to top
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number one finished at eleven under par overall on the
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Quile Hollow layout for a five stroke victory. That's sport
up next matches. Lots of talk, as we discussed with
David Seymour about the budget and what might be in
it for agriculture. I do hope that there's some more
funding for rural mental health because it's a serious issue
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and a real issue. One man who does a lot
of great work in that space is Matt CHISHLM, rural
mental health advocate, and Matt can I still call you
former celebrity, Treasure Island star or you're sick of that?
Speaker 4 (27:25):
I've probably had enough of that, Jamie, to be honest,
I think we've all moved on. Twenty twenty two I
think was the last year I did that. So now
you can call me whatever you like on the step
and you're talking to me, Jamie, nowhere is at all well.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
I'm happy to be talking to you. Minds you.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
You were the star at the Harriot one hundred and
fortieth Rugby celebrations over the weekend, and I think your
guest speakers were Marty Banks and none other than Andrew Whore.
I reckon Andrew hohr Is. I encouraged him a few
years ago. I said, you want to get onto the
public speaking circuit. I know he's a bit gruff, but gee,
he's dry witted. He's funny that guy.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Look, I had my doubts too, to be honest, and
I hope Andrew's listening because he's a lot stronger than me, obviously,
and I wasn't the only person who had my doubts,
and people were just worried because I was running the
cutter and there was Marty who loses a goose, and
then Andrew. But I don't know if we could have
been any better. And Andrew Whore is brilliant. He is
a phenomenal speaker. He's really really funny, tells a great
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yarn and he's not even he doesn't even look like
he's trying. He's actually very very quick with it. Yeah,
he's a clever man, and he's got some put stories
and he's not even afraid to tell them when his
wife sitting in the front row, which was brilliant.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Yeah, some of them are awe at PG rated.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
But there you go.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
If you're looking for a good speaker at your Rugby
centenary or one fiftieth, I know we've got our one
twenty fifth Riversdale coming up. We might have to encourage
Hary to come down. He is a great storyteller. Okay,
so you were born and raised in like Lawrence, which
is just over the Hilton Milton Milton. Okay, sorry, but
you played forty four Arrence, didn't you.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
I did play footy for Lawrence, yeah, and they were
Lawrence were playing Harriot on their big birth you know,
their celebration, their birthday bash, and I turned up there
and I thought he's a bit torn here, and I
wanted to cheer for Lawrence, and then I was on
the Herriot side. And then I remembered that, you know,
if Lawrence beat Harriet at the one hundred and fortieth
birthday bash, well the night's not as going to be
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as good as it could be. So I soon figured
that out and started backing Harriot. Yeah, and it worked,
but Lawrence, they wanted to spoil the party. But it
was a bloody good game of footy and wet conditions
and I was pretty impressed with the talent on also. Yeah,
it was a great game seven. I think the Blue
and White hopes got up.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Yeah, that heartland rural in New Zealand at it's absolute best.
And of course why you were m seeing in Harriet
over the hell these towns, by the way, folks are
in West Otago. Michelle was m seeing the Century Farm
and Station Awards at Lawrence. What are great little town Lawrences?
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Don't you think mate?
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Lawrence is a cracker. Yeah. They've done a great job
on sort of beautifying their main street and there's not
probably a lot of streets off the main street. A
little sleepy little village, but beautiful main street. And I
went there for six weeks half my life ago and
stayed for about two years. It is a great little town,
great community, great footy club and yeah, yeah, she would
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have had a good time Michelle doing that. A lot
of good people there in Lawrence.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
What are you doing with yourself these days other than
farming on your hobby farm that's actually more than a
hobby farm. Now, because I know you've taken time out
of a really busy day in the stockyards to talk
to us today, matchism.
Speaker 6 (30:34):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
I've got Ken from Silver Firm Farms turning up here
at three o'clock going to get rid of a few
cul us and a few cul lambs ram lambs, Jamie.
So you know there's probably going to be twenty five
animals going away on a truck later on, and so
I don't know, I've really got time for this conversation.
But I love that sort of work, so I'm doing
a bit of that today, which is going to be fantastic.
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But now I still do a lot of them, seeing
I've probably cut my throat before when I talking about
how good Horri was. But a lot of speaking and
I've done those books and mucking around. But I have
got something else in the pipeline, which I'm told IM
can't quite tell you about yet because it hasn't been
made official, which is a bugger because I want to
tell you about it.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Well you've got to give me first tips on it.
Does it like in the media.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
No, No, it's not in the media. Michelle was asking me,
she's talking about the budget, you know, and this rural
health stuff, and I said to her, any any funding
for Royal mental health to bloody good thing, because you know,
our farmer has been doing it tough for a couple
of years. Things are obviously picking up now, so that's
a good thing. But I said to it, I don't
really follow the media now, notice to speak, Michelle, but
I'm kind of living in a wee bubble with my
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wee farm here and in the country, in the rural community.
And coaching a lot of sports, which I really love.
But I can't comment on the budget and what's in
it because I haven't been following it.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Well, well, no one knows what's in it yet. It's
not coming out till Thursday. I'll give you the clue
on that one. Have you ever thought about your twenty
five lambs you're sending away this afternoon that maybe you
could load up the old four wheeler and the motorbike Trailie,
you'd get them there in two trips.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
I would, and I often do a bit of that, Jamie.
But the thing is, I don't know if we've talked
about this or not, but I'm about nine weeks into
a twelve week loss of license, Jamie, So if I
wanted to go to the pub two k down the road,
I'd have to take the ride on Lawnmark.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
At least you didn't lose your license for drink driving
because you don't drink anymore.
Speaker 6 (32:21):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Was as a heavy foot, was it? Mate?
Speaker 4 (32:24):
Yeah? It's just a couple too many times, Like I
do a lot of driving and I get complacent. But
my word, my evericacy work today will go as far
as this, Like if you don't drink drive because it
can kind of ruin your relationship with your partner at home.
You know, I coached the rugby, I coach the soccer.
I'm all over the country, and my wife has really
had to pull a finger out even more than she
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already does. She's already superwoman. But and our relationship, you know,
we're in the trenches here with the young kids. So
it was an idea in the first place, and then
then I go and do this to her. So she's
got to do three hundred more trips than she usually does,
and she's reason to be unhappy with me at the moment.
Because I've got a license.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
It will pass. Take it from an older man, Matt,
it will pass, all right. Relationship no, no, no, the grumpiness.
I'm just waiting for it to pass. At our place. Hey, Matt,
I've got to go. Thanks for some of your time,
taking time out of a very busy day in the
stockyards to talk to us.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
Jammie always always got to talk to you, mate. Have
you done well?
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Good on you, Matte.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
And if the program didn't directors listening at home, you know,
I'm only joking there up next to Phil Duncan and
Weather Welcome back to the country. Nine away from one.
This man's been missing an action for the past couple
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of weeks. His name is Phil Duncan from where the Watch,
and even his own mother, the lovely Hazel Duncan, was
asking where he is, so we better ask him, where
have you been?
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Phil?
Speaker 10 (33:58):
Yea hello. I had a little bit of an accident
in the garden and ended up with twenty sictures in
my face, which I have now gone, and I'm in
the sun recovery process.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
And your model good looks will be ruined by that too.
Now I won't go on, and I'm glad you've recovered
because I know in all seriousness it was a bit
of a nasty spill. Just before we talk about the weather,
because it's pretty calm and settled week coming up. Have
you been through the Esque Valley since cyclone?
Speaker 10 (34:26):
Gabrielle, I haven't been through it, but I've got extended
families who we just recently met for a family reunion
who were telling me all about it. But i haven't
myself been through it yet.
Speaker 5 (34:36):
No.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Yeah, I just got a text and someone saying I'm
born and bred and napier and the s valleys like
Chalk and Cheese before and after the cyclone. Admittedly the
cleanup has been good, but very different these days.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Yeah, it is in.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Terms of what's happening in there. Thoughts and pretty thoughts
for those people. But look, the good news is, and
we were talking to some people up the road in Gisbon,
they've had a great season on the east coast of
the North Island there, which is good after the Gabrielle
sort of thing, and short and sharp the weather forecast
this week, Phil Winter's arrived. It's been a week bit chilly.
But what the good news is, we're going to get
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a fine and for some people frosty week.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (35:13):
There very few frosts again tonight, especially around the South
Island interior. Not very many coastal frosts though so far
this yet it's been kind of a couple of degrees
above average during April and May seems to be about
a degree or so above normal, So even with this
cold change, it's not overly cold, it's just sort of
closer to normal. High pressure is going to take until
about the end of the weeks, at around Thursday Friday,
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before it moves in over US and then during the
weekend it slides out to the east and our wind
starts to warm up and it becomes a bit more
maybe even subtropical. So if you frosts around maybe even
to the central North Island overnight tonight and tomorrow morning.
But it's not a freezing cold week for the most part.
The southerlyis are not really coming out of Antarctica. They're
really coming from out of Australia.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Do you do like a long range winter forecast.
Speaker 10 (35:58):
I'm not a big fan of them. I'm a big
fan of a forecast beyond a few weeks, to be honest,
in this part of the world. But what we are
seeing is a lot of high pressure still streaming through
Australia and that's starting to break up a little bit
more so. They've got drought across a large portion of
southern areas of Australia, a bit of rain on the
way for them, and that's a bit of a good
sign that perhaps these big dominant high pressure systems are
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finally breaking up, because they've been very dominant in New
Zealand this year, even with the rain makers we've had recently.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
They felt great to have you back and hello to
Ian and Hazel Duncan listening in Tiaraha, right.
Speaker 10 (36:32):
Thank you, Yeah, that's the one.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
There we go.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Every listener is a prisoner. Casey in the Sunshine Band.
Michelle put all this disco stuff in there, boggie shoes,
all two minutes and nine seconds of it. Those are
the days? Weren't they two minute songs? Where have they
gone to? Up next, we're going to wrap it with
some of your feedback, Okay, wrapping the country. If you
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want to go to the Field Days, We've got a
double pass to give away our last one, I think,
or we might have some more coming up in a
week or two's time, have we She's shrugging her shoulders.
But anyhow, last chance this week to win a double
pass to the Field Days. All you need to do
is text Field Days. Spell it correctly. It's one word
I before your name and where you're listening from someone
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in here suggesting Jan from O ta ahung A suggesting
predictive text change the spelling.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
Thank you to Jan.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
You're officially in the drawer. I'm not sure it changed
that much. That's my mission up until the fourteenth, the
eleventh of June is to get people to learn to
spell field Days properly. We'll catch you back tomorrow. Farmer
Tom Martin from the UK on the show.
Speaker 5 (37:56):
Get Love.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
The latest from the land. It's the Country Podcast with
Jamie mckaye. Thanks to Brent, you're specialist in John Deere
construction equipment.
Catch you all the latest from the land. It's the
Country Podcast with Jamie mckue. Thanks to Brent You're specialist
in John dere machinery reputation. I'm a sensation. You train
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me once, you.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Gooda New Zealand. Welcome to the Country, brought to you
by Brandt. I'm Jamie mckaye. Don't blame me for the music.
Michelle's loaded me up with some disco one hit wonder
from the seventies. I'll have to change the log a
weaver hey, but we've got more serious issues to deal
with than the music selection on the show today. Going
to kick it off with a man who will when
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a couple of weeks time, will become the Deputy Prime Minister,
David Seymour.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Ask him the age old question.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Wat's in the budget this Thursday's budget for farmers. We've
got a farmer panel today, the two Sandy's from Gussies,
Sandra Faulkner and Sandra Matthews. Sandra Faulkner's Federated Farmer's Adverse
Events spokesperson and Sandra Matthews is the President of Rural
Women and z Lighting things up a wee bit with
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matt Chisholm, rural mental health advocate, raconteur and hobby farmer.
Hobby farmer in Central Otago Phil Duncan. Even his mother
is wondering where he's been because he hasn't been on
the wireless for a couple of weeks. From weather Watch,
we'll have a look at the weather as we dip our.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Toes into winter.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
We bit cold over the weekend in some places, certainly
is down south where we are at the moment. But
we've got a fine week in store, so we've got
all that to do before the end of the hour.
Let let's waste no time. David Seymour to kick the
show off. David Seymour is the act party leader and David,
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next time I speak to you on the country, you'll
be Deputy Prime Minister.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Are you counting the sleeps?
Speaker 4 (02:14):
No?
Speaker 5 (02:14):
We got a budget this week, so a bit more
worried about making sure that we're saving enough money and
putting it into the few things we can afford at
the moment that will make New Zealand a more productive
and prosperous place, while also wrangling that debt that we
inherited back down.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
We'll come back to the budget well, I'll divert to
the budget from the budget.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
That sounds a bit irish, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
But in the good old days, David Seymour, long before
your time, Rob Muldoon, Bear and backy budgets, we used
to ask in the farming fraternity, what's in the budget
for farming or for agriculture. We know better than to
ask now, nor do we expect anything. So there won't
be effectively anything in the budget for farming.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Well, there'll be stuff in there that is good for business,
and people sometimes forget that farming is a business. So no,
I think that farmers will actually be pretty happy with
at least one aspect of the budget. However, it's fair
to say that these are not easy times. These are
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hungry times. And when they're hungry times for people and
households and businesses and farms up and down the country,
it better be hungry times for the government. You'll see
that with the operating allowance, we're going to increase spending
by less than one percent this year, whereas if you
look at inflations running at two and a half, the
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populations ticked up at percent, so we're actually really pulling
back what we're spending compared with the rest of the economy,
and that is absolutely necessary after the blowout of the
preceding five years.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
So you need I was reading this morning two point
five billion of new funding just to maintain existing services.
Now you've got to figure out where that's going to
come from. And chucked in on the side of that,
you've committed something like twelve billion over the next four
years for defense, which is fine and dandy, but I
must say, David Seymour, two billion dollars for five new
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helicopters seems to be a hell of an expensive helicopter.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
Well, that was my first response. I was sitting at
a meeting. I said, you've got to be kidding. I mean,
what could be helicopters do. The thing is, you're not
just buying a chopper. You're buying the whole system of
maintenance and parts and all the stuff that goes around it. So, yeah,
it does sound like a lot of money for a helicopter.
(04:45):
You know, it's almost more expensive per helicopter than one
of those Donald Trump gift jets. However, it's built more
a weapon system that you're buying rather than just the
bear chopper.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Well, I'm pleased to hear that, and I hope the
Air Force does a better job of looking after its
choppers than the Navy does with its boats.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
Well, we're trying to move on from that, Jane, all right.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Okay, So okay, you've got to find this money from somewhere.
So where where might it come from? And I know
you can't talk too much ahead of the budget obviously
means testing the key. We say a contribution from the
government would be a bit of a no brainer, wouldn't it.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
Well, if it was, I hope we hadn't missed a
no brainer. But it's also possible that we have reasons
that you might not have thought of. So who knows
about that one?
Speaker 2 (05:37):
But why should someone I don't know earning one hundred
grand or more, even earning sixty or seventy grand or
more get a subsidy from the government. I can understand
why people at the bottom of the rung might need it,
But if you're earning one hundred grand, David, why do
you need a subsidy from the government.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
I'm not leaking the budget details here, but because I
love Debake, I'll give you here's one reason why. Once
you get over about seventy grand are you paying thirty
three cents in the dollar in tax? So why should
somebody who pays additional taxes, far more taxes than someone
on a lower income not only get tax harder, but
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also have all the benefits cut off from them at
that's one argument you could make, not saying it's true
or I believe it, but that's the answer to your question.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
More public sector cuts in order how much more fat
can you trim from the public sector.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
We'll put it this way. When Grant Robertson came in,
the last government on our side had just spent a
budget of seventy six billion dollars. The budget that we
inherited when we got back in six years later was
one hundred and thirty eight billion dollars. So you do
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the maths. They increase spending by fifty two billion in
six years, and yep, there was in fation, and yep
a pandemic came and went during that period. But that
doesn't explain a sixty eight percent increase fifty two billion
dollars of extra spending in six years. And all we're
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doing is going through and it's taken a while to
find where all the land mines are buried. All we're
doing is going through canceling stuff that doesn't add up
and putting in place investments that will actually secure our
future as a country.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
When will we get a government that's brave enough to
do something around the age of eligibility for national super
Labour doesn't want to do it, Winston doesn't want to
bar of it. You would like to National would like
to Why don't you do something with luxon and just
call Winston out?
Speaker 6 (07:46):
Well.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
I heard Chris say that he supports it on the
radio this morning, and I was a little bit surprised
because the National Party's policy is to start raising the
age of superannuation in twenty four four. Previously, their policy
when they first announced it was to do it in
twenty thirty seven. So even a twenty year delay was
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not enough and they pushed it back another seven years.
If the nets are up for it, then, so we
know that there will be people who say, we believe that.
You know, some people have hard physical jobs and it's
hard to keep working. I believe we can solve that problem.
It's not worth sending the entire country broke because you
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can't solve that problem. And I believe there's ways you
can do it. So you know, I believe that we
have a duty to start being honest with New Zealanders
because if we don't get our spending under control, then
the fiscal gap, the deficit that is growing and growing
and will keep growing through the twenty thirties, it will
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have to be plugged another way. And you've seen the
Greens budget thirty three percent tax on all capital assets
over a million bucks. So if you've got a five
million dollar dairy farm and you transfer it down to
another generation, you pay thirty three percent on the four
million that's over the first million. That's one point three
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million dollars of Britain's tax. Giving your dairy farm to
your kids, if it's the average value, now that is
totally irresponsible. It will destroy his elin. But if we
don't get our spending under control, somebody eventually is going
to be elected. Are they going to put new taxes
on your assets?
Speaker 2 (09:36):
You must look at just a final comment, you must
look at the Greens and to Party Mary, who are
as nutty as the fruitcake, and think, you know, whatever
Chris Sipkins does, he's in a no win situation. He
cannot form a coalition with those two political parties or
in one case, Activist Party, because they're unelectable.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Well, I prefer the Canadian term nuttier than squirrel. And
you're absolutely right. These people it's not so much that
the numbers don't add up. It's that deep down they
actually believe numbers don't need to add up, and it's
all about the vibe. So I would say that, you know,
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the importance of keeping the other guys out has never
been greater. However, I also just say, look that that
doesn't mean that we can coast and that's why I'm
an ACT We've got to keep this government, but we've
also got to keep pushing to make it better, as
we have through this budget process. To save whenever possible,
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reduce des and invest only when it is going to
give us a return for the future.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
David Seymour, Act Party Leader, thank you for your time
on the country. Next time we chat. Next time we chat,
I'm going to call you Deputy Dave.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
You can call me whatever you like, Deputy day double
d if you like.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
See you later, ye, Thank you, David. Eighteen after twelve.
Some of your feedback coming in on David Seymour legend.
Here's one on the age of eligibility for National super
I might have to vet that one and read it
before I publicly announce it. But what I can publicly
announce is today is your lucky day. If you want
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to go to Field Days, We've got one more double
pass to give away. And I'm hoping good afternoon, Michelle. Yeah,
I'm hoping that our smelling lesson over the last five
days hasn't been in vain. So if you want to
go to Field Days, We've got a double pass for
your text Field Days. It's one word I before E
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and text that to five double oh nine, your name
and where you're listening from, and we will announce the
winner of that final pass to Field Days on tomorrow's show.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
But who won Friday's pass?
Speaker 7 (11:58):
Michelle, it's Friday's pass. This was Mike Lunnon from Napiers.
Congratulations Mike.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
You're about to drive the well, yeah, the Napier Talpo Highway,
won't you, and then whip up the road up to
the trim From there.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Nice drive, m You go through Esk Valley. Have you
ever done that? Driven?
Speaker 7 (12:16):
I've never been to Napier.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Actually, well, you're missing out it's the deco capital of
the country. But you know it's a nice drive. You
do drive and I did it a couple of years ago,
admittedly through Esk Valley. You know, after all the trauma
of cyclone Gabrielle, it looked a real mess. I hope
it's tidy and now I must must do that wonderful
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drive again. It's great country through there and talking about
cyclone Gabrielle. Up next to our farmer panel on the
Country who both had to live through it. There are
a couple of Gisbon farmers who wear other hats as well.
The two Sandy's from Gussie I'm calling them Federated Farmers,
Adverse Events spokesperson Sandra Faulkner and Rural Women en Z
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President Sandra Matthews. I'm going to get my Sandras confused here,
I can see that. So they're up next on the
Country Matchism and Phil Duncan.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Before the end of the hour.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
It's been like herding cats trying to get this panel together,
but I've eventually got them. The two Sandra's from Guzzy,
Sandra Matthews, head of Rural Women in ZED, and Sandra Faulkner,
who's Federated Farmer's Adverse Events spokesperson. Let's start with weather
and track conditions where you both come from, Poverty Bay,
East Coast. Pretty good season, I understand. I'll start with you.
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I'll go alphabetically. I'll go with Faulkner before Matthews.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Hello, Sandra, Hi Jamie.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
It's great to be talking with you again.
Speaker 8 (13:50):
We're having the most fantastic grass growing season up here.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
It's there's no other way to describe.
Speaker 8 (13:56):
It aside from bloody, marvelous, frankly, and it's a rare
thing for us.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
How far apart do you two guys live.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
We're about forty five minutes.
Speaker 8 (14:05):
Yeah, so I'm south of Gasban City and.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
Andra's out west.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Okay, Sandra from out west? You sound like something from
Outrageous Fortune, don't you take it? Your faring equally well
on your phone?
Speaker 9 (14:17):
Yeah, Hi Jamie, Yeah we are. We've had a really
good season, one of the lucky ones. I think the
East Coast has deserved a good season for a change,
and lambs are just astronomically doing astronomically well. The cattle
are looking great and there's actually grasp.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
So that's good.
Speaker 9 (14:33):
And we've got a bit of water. So yeah, absolutely stoked.
If you call me Sandra and Sandra, If Sandra, that
will differentiate us, I think because I'm the Aussie and
she's the pee.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Week all right, Sandra and Sandra. I'll never remember that.
I'll go back to I'm just going to call you
by your surnames. I think fuk V Matthews. It will
be easier. Okay, Forkner, you are working with Matthews. This
is Federated Farmers working in with rural women in z
regarding your submissions around natural disasters.
Speaker 8 (15:07):
So the consultation is open at the moment around the
new Civil Defense and Emergency Management legislation. It's something that
the rural community is deeply engaged with because of course
we all know that when Mother Nature throws her toys,
quite often.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
It's it's farmers that get out there first. Because you know,
for us.
Speaker 8 (15:33):
Recovery starts the morning when you pull your boots on.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
After an event. There's there's very little opportunity to have
the four hours, you know, the reduction, the readiness, the
response and recovery.
Speaker 8 (15:45):
We just we just full on dealing with it and
it comes in form of recovery. So what we've gone
out for and asked for and advocated strongly for. Is
a primary sector liaison role which sits embedded within the
SIN structure, and it all gets a bit acronymy and
I do apologize for that, but it sits alongside health
(16:07):
and safety and logistics and intelligence and everything else.
Speaker 6 (16:10):
Because the group of control is that I.
Speaker 8 (16:12):
Talk to up and down this country really want to
know that they have one conjured, one liaison that speaks
to our rural communities, our rural businesses and the organizations
that support them in an event.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Okay, rural women, as Sandra Matthews is celebrating one hundred
years not out this year.
Speaker 9 (16:32):
We are and we won't be out for another one
hundred or another two hundred years.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
Jamie.
Speaker 9 (16:35):
We've got our centennial coming up, starting off in July
with a wonderful event over in Taranaki where one of
the first meetings was, and then we have a whole
year of celebrations culminating in a whopping great event event
in Willington in July twenty twenty six. Very exciting year
for real women New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Because there was a tie up with Federated Farmers back
in the day wasn't there, won't you? The Women's Division
of Federated Farmers. Was that one of your names? Your
pre existing names?
Speaker 6 (17:05):
That was one of them, Jamie.
Speaker 9 (17:06):
The Women's Division Federated Farmers. We came out in nineteen
twenty five from the Farmers' Union. So a group of
women got together while the memory at their conference and said, hey,
we need to look at supporting and networking women around
the country. So not long after, one of the women
that came together, I think there were sixteen, came together
(17:26):
and one of them wrote two thousand letters and posts
them all around the country. And that's how rural Women
got started, well Women's Division back then of the Farmers Union.
So it's been a long journey and we've done some
amazing things over the last hundred years, and we continue
to do amazing things today.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Sandra Faulkner with Federated Farmers, Sandra Matthews with Rover Woman.
I just want to finish by asking the pair of you,
you're talking about natural disasters. Of course you had Gabrielle,
which was the mother of all national disasters, and every
time I chat to the pair of you since it happened,
what are we twenty twenty three. That's what two and
a half years ago, is it? You're something like that?
(18:05):
So have you fully recovered on your farm? I'll stay
with you, Sandra Matthews, Jamie.
Speaker 9 (18:11):
We've just finished the outside of the painting of our
house from all the work that needed to be done
last Thursday. We still have a retaining wall on the
house to be finished off. I'm looking at my office
window and looking at the scars on the hill behind me,
but I will say we have done all our fencings.
We have done all our tracks, our culverts, our dams.
(18:32):
Everything on the farm has been repaired.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Now.
Speaker 9 (18:35):
Ian's walking around with a bit of a smile on
his face because we've got grass and water and everything's
hunky dor at the moment. So yeah, it's taken two
and a half years and it's been a long road
and it's been an easy one. There has been some
very stressful times, and thank goodness, Sandra's not very far
down the road because we tend to throw a few
expleeders around occasionally between us. But it's been you know,
(18:58):
it's been one of those journeys that we had to
go through and I'm actually really looking forward to things settling.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Down, Jamie, I'll bet you well, Sandra Folk and what
about your farm, Well.
Speaker 8 (19:09):
We were probably one of the lucky ones in Gabriel itself,
bearing in mind that that whole year it just rained
and rained and rained, and so we sort of watched
the farm dissolve around us later on in the year,
sort of through June.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
July through Gabriel itself.
Speaker 8 (19:26):
We didn't get hit as hard as up where Sundra Matthew's,
So that meant that I was able to get to
town be working alongside the emergency in the emergency operating center,
bringing that local knowledge, bringing that local voice, and also
(19:48):
just assuring the rural listeners on the radios out around
our district that we knew that they were there and
they were front of mine for us. So that's where
Sandra and I work so closely together, because at the
heart of all of this are the families that live
(20:10):
on the land, have their businesses on their land, and
support one another, true to God and bad.
Speaker 9 (20:16):
Yeah, I just want to reiterate what Sandra said, the
experience that we had during Hale and Gabrielle and I
think this is one of the things that we've talked
to our members around the country on the emergency Management review,
is that the primary sector doesn't have a voice around
those tables. And Sandra in there banging drums at the
time when we were actually cut off and had damaged
(20:38):
was hugely important. So if we have somebody around that table,
it's going to enable our primary sector, our farmers, to
actually be represented. So that's where we're coming from when
we're talking about this emergency management review. So hugely important.
And I will say Sandra was the first person to
drive up my driveway the crazy woman drove through floodwaters
and I burst into tears when I saw her. And
(21:00):
that was that was not long after the storms went through.
So yeah, very thankful that we have people like Sandra
and other people in this region and right down Hooks
Bay's coast that have done these things and have you know,
continued to advocate to get these changes.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Okay, to cut you so off away you go.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Final final word, Sandra Fla.
Speaker 8 (21:22):
The final word probably is an acknowledgment of our current
rural MPs, irrespective and remembering that emergency management must be bipartisan.
We can't have politics and emergency management. So I just
really wanted to have a bit of a shout out
to rural MPs up and down the length of the
country who have taken up the fight for us as well.
(21:45):
So thanks to their men, Mark Mitcho and his team.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
All Right, I'm going to cut you off. I'm running
out of room. That's Faulkner and Matthews. I don't know
whether to call you Sandra or Sandra. I might just
call you the two Sandy's from Gussie. You sound like
something out of Greece the movie We've Got to Go
See You Later.
Speaker 6 (22:02):
Changeable to you, Jamie play.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Great mates, great panelists. Sandra Faulkner, Sandra Matthews. It's twenty
eight away from one. Some of your feedback you can
get us on five double O nine if you want
to text us. Muzz from Hawk's Bay Rights. This is
about you, Michelle. She's never been to Napier, she hasn't lived.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
You need to go to Napier. It's a beautiful city.
Speaker 7 (22:27):
It's on my bucket list.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
If you Here's another one saying esk Valley is munted Jamie.
And in contrast to that, if I zoom up the screen,
awe bit here someone else says Hi Jamie, you'd be
amazed at the difference driving through Esk Valley now almost
hard to believe the difference between the devastation that happened
(22:49):
obviously with Gabrielle and the cleanup that's happened.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
And I'm pleased to hear that I.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Drove through there in October twenty twenty three, so Gabrielle
was February twenty twenty three. So it was looking, it
was awful. It was like it was haunting, to be honest.
So I'd love some more feedback on Esk Valley and
the recovery and the repatriation that's happening there. Up next
Rural News, Sports News, Scotti Scheffler winning the PGA Championships.
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Before the end of the hour, we lighten it up
a week but with Matt Chisholm television celebrity can I
still call them that? And Phil Duncan weather celebrity. So
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Your life and here's Michelle what fresh from a very
successful MC job and thank you for filling in for
me at the Century Farm and Station Awards. I don't
think I'll get the job back. Did you have a
good night.
Speaker 7 (25:11):
I'd a great night. I was very well looked after
a big shout out to the team at the Century
Farm Awards because they were absolutely amazing.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Well up next to bloke with a bit of a
connection to Lawrence Matches. And but not before we do
rural news.
Speaker 7 (25:23):
Yes, so in reural News, our national MP's proposing a
private member's bill to help those on the land use
their key we save it to own property. Rangatiki MP
sus Redmond wants to tweet the rules so service tenants
can use their key we saveor to buy property, both
through their own name or through a company. Currently, people
can't use a business to do that, even if they
own the business. Redmind says the idea came to her
(25:44):
after one of the workers on her farm struggle with
the rules. She says, the current settings aren't fair and
I know that Federated farmers are doing a lot with that,
so we might catch up with Richard McIntyre at some point.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Yeah, Well, if you can buy a house with your key,
we save or use it for your deposit, why not
use it to help you leg into a farm?
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (26:01):
His sport sport We're the avco Kiwi to the bone
since nineteen oh four.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
I can't believe how quick these blokes drive. A rookie
has claimed the Indy five hundred pole position for the
first time in forty two years. Israeli driver Robert Schwartzman
never heard of him, has stunned the field to top
the time sheets with a four lap average of three
hundred and seventy five k's per hour and qualifying ahead
of his first oval track race. Kiwi Scott McLaughlin walked
(26:29):
away from a big crash during the final practice, going
airborne and smashing into the wall. Golfer Scottie Scheffler no
surprise here, has paid tribute to coach Randy Smith after
winning the maiden PGA Championship, his third major. The world
number one finished at eleven under par overall on the
(26:50):
Quile Hollow layout for a five stroke victory. That's sport
up next matches. Lots of talk, as we discussed with
David Seymour about the budget and what might be in
it for agriculture. I do hope that there's some more
funding for rural mental health because it's a serious issue
(27:12):
and a real issue. One man who does a lot
of great work in that space is Matt CHISHLM, rural
mental health advocate, and Matt can I still call you
former celebrity, Treasure Island star or you're sick of that?
Speaker 4 (27:25):
I've probably had enough of that, Jamie, to be honest,
I think we've all moved on. Twenty twenty two I
think was the last year I did that. So now
you can call me whatever you like on the step
and you're talking to me, Jamie, nowhere is at all well.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
I'm happy to be talking to you. Minds you.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
You were the star at the Harriot one hundred and
fortieth Rugby celebrations over the weekend, and I think your
guest speakers were Marty Banks and none other than Andrew Whore.
I reckon Andrew hohr Is. I encouraged him a few
years ago. I said, you want to get onto the
public speaking circuit. I know he's a bit gruff, but gee,
he's dry witted. He's funny that guy.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Look, I had my doubts too, to be honest, and
I hope Andrew's listening because he's a lot stronger than me, obviously,
and I wasn't the only person who had my doubts,
and people were just worried because I was running the
cutter and there was Marty who loses a goose, and
then Andrew. But I don't know if we could have
been any better. And Andrew Whore is brilliant. He is
a phenomenal speaker. He's really really funny, tells a great
(28:24):
yarn and he's not even he doesn't even look like
he's trying. He's actually very very quick with it. Yeah,
he's a clever man, and he's got some put stories
and he's not even afraid to tell them when his
wife sitting in the front row, which was brilliant.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Yeah, some of them are awe at PG rated.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
But there you go.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
If you're looking for a good speaker at your Rugby
centenary or one fiftieth, I know we've got our one
twenty fifth Riversdale coming up. We might have to encourage
Hary to come down. He is a great storyteller. Okay,
so you were born and raised in like Lawrence, which
is just over the Hilton Milton Milton. Okay, sorry, but
you played forty four Arrence, didn't you.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
I did play footy for Lawrence, yeah, and they were
Lawrence were playing Harriot on their big birth you know,
their celebration, their birthday bash, and I turned up there
and I thought he's a bit torn here, and I
wanted to cheer for Lawrence, and then I was on
the Herriot side. And then I remembered that, you know,
if Lawrence beat Harriet at the one hundred and fortieth
birthday bash, well the night's not as going to be
(29:23):
as good as it could be. So I soon figured
that out and started backing Harriot. Yeah, and it worked,
but Lawrence, they wanted to spoil the party. But it
was a bloody good game of footy and wet conditions
and I was pretty impressed with the talent on also. Yeah,
it was a great game seven. I think the Blue
and White hopes got up.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Yeah, that heartland rural in New Zealand at it's absolute best.
And of course why you were m seeing in Harriet
over the hell these towns, by the way, folks are
in West Otago. Michelle was m seeing the Century Farm
and Station Awards at Lawrence. What are great little town Lawrences?
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Don't you think mate?
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Lawrence is a cracker. Yeah. They've done a great job
on sort of beautifying their main street and there's not
probably a lot of streets off the main street. A
little sleepy little village, but beautiful main street. And I
went there for six weeks half my life ago and
stayed for about two years. It is a great little town,
great community, great footy club and yeah, yeah, she would
(30:19):
have had a good time Michelle doing that. A lot
of good people there in Lawrence.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
What are you doing with yourself these days other than
farming on your hobby farm that's actually more than a
hobby farm. Now, because I know you've taken time out
of a really busy day in the stockyards to talk
to us today, matchism.
Speaker 6 (30:34):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
I've got Ken from Silver Firm Farms turning up here
at three o'clock going to get rid of a few
cul us and a few cul lambs ram lambs, Jamie.
So you know there's probably going to be twenty five
animals going away on a truck later on, and so
I don't know, I've really got time for this conversation.
But I love that sort of work, so I'm doing
a bit of that today, which is going to be fantastic.
(30:57):
But now I still do a lot of them, seeing
I've probably cut my throat before when I talking about
how good Horri was. But a lot of speaking and
I've done those books and mucking around. But I have
got something else in the pipeline, which I'm told IM
can't quite tell you about yet because it hasn't been
made official, which is a bugger because I want to
tell you about it.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Well you've got to give me first tips on it.
Does it like in the media.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
No, No, it's not in the media. Michelle was asking me,
she's talking about the budget, you know, and this rural
health stuff, and I said to her, any any funding
for Royal mental health to bloody good thing, because you know,
our farmer has been doing it tough for a couple
of years. Things are obviously picking up now, so that's
a good thing. But I said to it, I don't
really follow the media now, notice to speak, Michelle, but
I'm kind of living in a wee bubble with my
(31:37):
wee farm here and in the country, in the rural community.
And coaching a lot of sports, which I really love.
But I can't comment on the budget and what's in
it because I haven't been following it.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Well, well, no one knows what's in it yet. It's
not coming out till Thursday. I'll give you the clue
on that one. Have you ever thought about your twenty
five lambs you're sending away this afternoon that maybe you
could load up the old four wheeler and the motorbike Trailie,
you'd get them there in two trips.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
I would, and I often do a bit of that, Jamie.
But the thing is, I don't know if we've talked
about this or not, but I'm about nine weeks into
a twelve week loss of license, Jamie, So if I
wanted to go to the pub two k down the road,
I'd have to take the ride on Lawnmark.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
At least you didn't lose your license for drink driving
because you don't drink anymore.
Speaker 6 (32:21):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Was as a heavy foot, was it? Mate?
Speaker 4 (32:24):
Yeah? It's just a couple too many times, Like I
do a lot of driving and I get complacent. But
my word, my evericacy work today will go as far
as this, Like if you don't drink drive because it
can kind of ruin your relationship with your partner at home.
You know, I coached the rugby, I coach the soccer.
I'm all over the country, and my wife has really
had to pull a finger out even more than she
(32:45):
already does. She's already superwoman. But and our relationship, you know,
we're in the trenches here with the young kids. So
it was an idea in the first place, and then
then I go and do this to her. So she's
got to do three hundred more trips than she usually does,
and she's reason to be unhappy with me at the moment.
Because I've got a license.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
It will pass. Take it from an older man, Matt,
it will pass, all right. Relationship no, no, no, the grumpiness.
I'm just waiting for it to pass. At our place. Hey, Matt,
I've got to go. Thanks for some of your time,
taking time out of a very busy day in the
stockyards to talk to us.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
Jammie always always got to talk to you, mate. Have
you done well?
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Good on you, Matte.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
And if the program didn't directors listening at home, you know,
I'm only joking there up next to Phil Duncan and
Weather Welcome back to the country. Nine away from one.
This man's been missing an action for the past couple
(33:45):
of weeks. His name is Phil Duncan from where the Watch,
and even his own mother, the lovely Hazel Duncan, was
asking where he is, so we better ask him, where
have you been?
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Phil?
Speaker 10 (33:58):
Yea hello. I had a little bit of an accident
in the garden and ended up with twenty sictures in
my face, which I have now gone, and I'm in
the sun recovery process.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
And your model good looks will be ruined by that too.
Now I won't go on, and I'm glad you've recovered
because I know in all seriousness it was a bit
of a nasty spill. Just before we talk about the weather,
because it's pretty calm and settled week coming up. Have
you been through the Esque Valley since cyclone?
Speaker 10 (34:26):
Gabrielle, I haven't been through it, but I've got extended
families who we just recently met for a family reunion
who were telling me all about it. But i haven't
myself been through it yet.
Speaker 5 (34:36):
No.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Yeah, I just got a text and someone saying I'm
born and bred and napier and the s valleys like
Chalk and Cheese before and after the cyclone. Admittedly the
cleanup has been good, but very different these days.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Yeah, it is in.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Terms of what's happening in there. Thoughts and pretty thoughts
for those people. But look, the good news is, and
we were talking to some people up the road in Gisbon,
they've had a great season on the east coast of
the North Island there, which is good after the Gabrielle
sort of thing, and short and sharp the weather forecast
this week, Phil Winter's arrived. It's been a week bit chilly.
But what the good news is, we're going to get
(35:10):
a fine and for some people frosty week.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (35:13):
There very few frosts again tonight, especially around the South
Island interior. Not very many coastal frosts though so far
this yet it's been kind of a couple of degrees
above average during April and May seems to be about
a degree or so above normal, So even with this
cold change, it's not overly cold, it's just sort of
closer to normal. High pressure is going to take until
about the end of the weeks, at around Thursday Friday,
(35:35):
before it moves in over US and then during the
weekend it slides out to the east and our wind
starts to warm up and it becomes a bit more
maybe even subtropical. So if you frosts around maybe even
to the central North Island overnight tonight and tomorrow morning.
But it's not a freezing cold week for the most part.
The southerlyis are not really coming out of Antarctica. They're
really coming from out of Australia.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Do you do like a long range winter forecast.
Speaker 10 (35:58):
I'm not a big fan of them. I'm a big
fan of a forecast beyond a few weeks, to be honest,
in this part of the world. But what we are
seeing is a lot of high pressure still streaming through
Australia and that's starting to break up a little bit
more so. They've got drought across a large portion of
southern areas of Australia, a bit of rain on the
way for them, and that's a bit of a good
sign that perhaps these big dominant high pressure systems are
(36:19):
finally breaking up, because they've been very dominant in New
Zealand this year, even with the rain makers we've had recently.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
They felt great to have you back and hello to
Ian and Hazel Duncan listening in Tiaraha, right.
Speaker 10 (36:32):
Thank you, Yeah, that's the one.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
There we go.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Every listener is a prisoner. Casey in the Sunshine Band.
Michelle put all this disco stuff in there, boggie shoes,
all two minutes and nine seconds of it. Those are
the days? Weren't they two minute songs? Where have they
gone to? Up next, we're going to wrap it with
some of your feedback, Okay, wrapping the country. If you
(37:06):
want to go to the Field Days, We've got a
double pass to give away our last one, I think,
or we might have some more coming up in a
week or two's time, have we She's shrugging her shoulders.
But anyhow, last chance this week to win a double
pass to the Field Days. All you need to do
is text Field Days. Spell it correctly. It's one word
I before your name and where you're listening from someone
(37:27):
in here suggesting Jan from O ta ahung A suggesting
predictive text change the spelling.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
Thank you to Jan.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
You're officially in the drawer. I'm not sure it changed
that much. That's my mission up until the fourteenth, the
eleventh of June is to get people to learn to
spell field Days properly. We'll catch you back tomorrow. Farmer
Tom Martin from the UK on the show.
Speaker 5 (37:56):
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