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July 2, 2025 4 mins

A former All Black gives his opinion on the current team, before discussing Heartland rugby.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Right.

Speaker 2 (00:00):
I think we did one of these about twelve years
ago and we spoke to this gentleman, a bit of
a legend here in mid Canterbury, Jock Ross, an All
Black way back and off the top of my head,
I'm going to go with nineteen eighty one.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
How did I go, Chuck?

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Well, you started off very well, Jamie. I'm impressed.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Yeah, I'm repressed. You have well to start with. What
do you make of the All Black team? I like it?

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Yeah, I think he's got it pretty right.

Speaker 4 (00:23):
There's one or two good players that have missed out,
but you won't have a good All Black side unless
you've got good players missing out.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
And are you referring to ethan blackhead of there?

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Probably yeah, Yeah, Harvely was another one. He did really well.
But you know they'll get their chance.

Speaker 4 (00:38):
Probably it's the attrition rate's quite high and they'll get
they'll get a crack on.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
True.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Now, you're a big man, you're one of the tallest
guys to have played for the All Blacks back in
the day.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
But a good made of mind.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Lee Piper, he's gone to the dark side now, but
him and his lovely wife Liz were kind of foster
appearance almost to Fabian Holland and Anita so Thru Lee.
I've managed to meet him and you've got you literally
wrench your neck talking to the bloke.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
He's a monster, No, he is.

Speaker 4 (01:08):
He's got a real test locked body and he's very
skillful and he knows what's going on. He's got that
tough Dutch sort of look about him, and I think
he'll be really good.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Well, twenty two is very young to be an All
Black tight forward, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Yeah. He's learned the game very well.

Speaker 4 (01:26):
He's obviously been very very well coached, and I think
that his contribution will be very good. I mean you've
got young Darry as well, but because you've got to
have pressure Jamie from different guys to get the best
out of him, and I think we've got that now.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Hey, how's the mid Canterbury footy team going? Because I've
managed to drag up your page from Wikipedia. You paid
one hundred and fifty eight games yourself. Although a note
in nineteen eighty it did go to the dark side
and go up the road to play for Canterbury. Was
that to try and get into the.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
All Blacks not at all completely complete fallacy. I went
up there for work and managed to get a few
games for Canterbury. Mid Canterbury. What we've got here is
going really well, but the numbers are down. We've only
got four sides, four club sides. But last year they
were in the Meads Cup Final which was very impressive

(02:17):
and very satisfying, and if they can build on that
this year, that's the level.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
I mean, we don't want to go any higher. That's
our level.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
Heartland rugby is where we are and if we can
do well in that environment, we're all pretty happy.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
What's Jock Ross doing with themselves these days?

Speaker 3 (02:34):
You mean workwise?

Speaker 4 (02:36):
Well, I'm still my oldest son Jared is running the business,
but I've still got a few roles and outside of that,
I'm the president of the Mid Canabury Rugby Union, so
that takes me around a few things, doing a checking.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
A few remind me of the family business.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Sorry, Ross Brothers Transport.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
Yes, of course, we're a farming family really that we
sort of diverted into up forty years ago.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
But my great grandfathers.

Speaker 4 (03:03):
Came here in the eighteen eighties farming, so we've just
about achieved local status.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
Jamie, and what about your other land, the one that
was the all Black Isaac.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Yeah, well he retired last year. He had ten years
in Japan.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
He had a couple of years in Austin and a
couple of years in San Diego playing in the American League,
and now he's gone back to Japan as a coach.
All these guys just seemed to keep getting jobs in
the game. Today they like and our day we stopped
paying went back to the farm.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
We won't see Isaac back on the farm. He's always
he's always a shiny sue boy anyway. But he's doing well.
He's well set up. He's got four sons at school
in America and he's you know, it's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Ah, Chuck, Hob's great to catch up with you again.
And can I see you to bring some old photos
along of a big sharing fundraiser he did here in
mid Canterbury at our old mate Dick Taylor's on the photo.
He wouldn't be much he was a spunt farmer. He'd
be no use on the end of a handpiece.

Speaker 4 (03:59):
Dick and I Timmory boys high same year in nineteen
sixty two.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Did you both spend two years in the fifth form
pretty much. Dick was just there to mark there on
the track and run around it quickly.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
One of us got expelled and the other one should have,
but we both end up wanting the Teaschmaker's Cup for
those outstanding old boys.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
So you work all that out, yeah, God on your
jock cross. Absolute legend.
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