August 10, 2025 • 38 mins
Jamie Mackay talks to Tom Young, Stacey Waaka, and Barry Soper.
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Gooday, Good afternoon, New Zealand. Welcome to the Country. The
show is brought to you by Brent. My name's Jamie McKay.
Irish theme today for Irish company Dawn Meats rumored to
be buying a seventy percent stake in the Alliance Group
for two hundred and seventy million dollars. We'll find out tomorrow.
We will have the Alliance Group chairman Mark When on
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the show, all will be revealed. It's really sort of
high industry, high industry. Try that again, A high noon
for the red meat industry at the moment. So record
prices for the farmers, that's fine and dandy, but some
of the meat processing companies or co ops are having
record losses. We're going to look at it very shortly.
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In fact, we're going to kick off the show with
a participant from the red meat industry. Will get his
view on what could happen tomorrow and is the red
meat model industry model fatally flawed. We're going to stick
with the red meat theme because we've got Stacy Waka
on the show today on the eve of her departure
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for a big sporting event in England featuring fifteen Kiwi
women wearing black g I love NZA. What a farce
that we can't talk about it directly, but anyhow, I'm
going to talk about red meat with Stacy Wiker, Beef
and Lamb. New Zealand's ambassador Barry Soper, mister Mom on Friday.
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He's on the show today. You might have caught up
with the news the latest taxpayer union curier poll effectively
has it has us with a hung parliament. There is
apparently a TV poll tonight. I think it's rumored to
be TV one. Don't hold me to that one. So
we'll see what that comes up with. So and we've
had the debarcle if you call it that, Winston in
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the High is I with Winston on that one? Luso
cuddling albow, Chloe wanting to be Minister of Finance, see
a better update my passport if that comes to pass.
Willow Jen Prime, what an embarrassment dropping the ball completely
over education? And Phil Duncan on the weather. They are
the most important farming months, August and September. We're going
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to update them with you, but we're going to kick
off the show first with some informed, hopefully comment on
the state of the red meat industry. Batty old Up?
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Speaker 5 (03:10):
Whow thirty?
Speaker 6 (03:13):
Old town?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Dirty old town?
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Interesting times in the red meat industry. Record prices, but
record losses for some meat companies. Have we just got
too many of them? We definitely have too much capacity.
I'm going to get the thoughts of this man who's
a participant in the industry. He's the National Livestock Manager
for AFCA. His name is Tom Young, and Tom of
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the Tally's going to have a ping at the Alliance
Group and eleventh our bid tonight.
Speaker 6 (03:43):
Maybe, Oh, look, I don't think so. Well, I don't
know and I don't think so. But it's probably another participant.
They'll be looking at that, Jamie. But yeah, it's not really,
it's not really at my pay grade. It's a few
levels above me.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Well, I'm reading from Riley Kennedy's excellent story on Business Desk,
and he said silver Fern Farms was the only domestic
processor to publicly state its willingness to play a part
in the capital rays. But it's widely considered that most
of the other big players of which you're wanted AFCO
did so behind closed doors. So you've all had a
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bit of a sniff about it. But would buying the
Alliance Group solve any problems for meat companies? We just
need to rationalize the industry or we just not got
enough critical mass.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
Yeah, well, I think the industry does need consolidation of
some sort, whether that's Alliance or other companies, shut plants
or a combination of plants. There's no doubt about it
that stock numbers have fallen a lot, particularly in the
last two or three years. So it's not just the
sheep business. You know, the beef numbers are falling as
well in both islands. Yeah, So you know, I don't
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think it's just an Alliance problem. It's a problem we've got.
It's a problem solver. Firn's got it's problem. Probably everyone's gone.
Is finding enough stock to make these plants sufficient and
keep the labor employed for five days a week, and
that's where probably most of the issues lie.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
So with record beef prices, let's just look at beef.
Isn't that enough to rekindle more interest in the red
meat industry. People maybe change their farming operation to have
more beef in it, for instance.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
Yeah, well possibly. I mean, we're certainly seeing a drop
and Bobby cavs being processed, and I think a lot
of them are finding their way into calf rearing operations,
So you know, we will see those, and I suppose
eighteen months to two and a half years time, so
there's a bit of a wait till till they arrive.
But certainly I think that the interest is there, but
I think it's just ongoing changing. Land use is just
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sort of relentless. Every year, probably more and more properties
are just quietly going into trees we don't know about.
And so you know, just the base, the base capital
stock of us and cows is not there to keep
providing adequate volumes of stock, and then all the meat
companies are probably well, I suppose I can only really
talk so to speak for aft cover. You know, certainly
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the labor's back now. Everyone wants a job versus where
it was three or four years ago with COVID, so
you know, the through puts are up, so the efficiencies
are back, and without the volume of stock, you know,
you're doing sort of three or four days a week.
And I think a lot of companies can probably make
it work on four days, or the labor can anyway.
But once you get down to three days of work
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a week, your staff on plant just don't don't take
enough home every week to sort of hang around and
make that system work.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
What's the inside ail within the industry? Because we're hearing
Irish meat company Dawn meets two hundred and seventy million
for a seventy percent stake. I know you guys talk tom,
you bring each other up on a Friday afternoon to
set the schedule.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
I don't think so.
Speaker 6 (07:01):
I'm not going to prison to see the schedule. Restisue
of that talk to who talk to Dawn meets or No?
Speaker 3 (07:07):
What's the one?
Speaker 6 (07:08):
I mean?
Speaker 3 (07:08):
What's the inside industry gossip? Is this a done deal?
The Stawn Meats thing?
Speaker 6 (07:13):
Well, I have absolutely no idea, to be quite frank,
and it's pure speculation, So I don't know. I can't
answer that well, that way.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
We'll have a look at some of that speculation on
tomorrow's show. I think nine o'clock tomorrow morning we find
out and we have got the Alliance Group Chairman Mark
went on to explain it. But even if they've come
up with a deal like that time, they've still got
to get the shareholders to vote for it, which might
be a sticky proposition, and then they've still got to
get OIO approval.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
Sure, yeah, I mean that's that's always a challenging thing
to you know, change I suppose the ownership structure radically.
If that's what it comes down to you. To make
a deal work, you've got to convince existing shareholders that
you know, this is the new way forward, you know. Really,
I mean, I can't comment, do I want to comment
too much on Alliance. We've got our own problems and
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we do it do things the hurway. Most people know that.
But hopefully they can find something that works for all
parties and we wish them the best to luck with it.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
So are you other meat companies going to pick over
the Alliance carcass? If indeed going to hang on? Tom
I want to let me throw the no, no, let
me throw the scenario at you, because I'm assuming a
lot of people have stuck with the Alliance group because
they are one hundred percent farmer owned cooperative. We know
that Silver Fern Farms did a joint venture with Shanghai
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Mailing Bright Meats or whatever, so they're only fifty to
fifty now. So this is the last one hundred percent
fully owned farmer cooperative and that was certainly an encouragement
for many farmers to stay in there. If they suddenly
become seventy percent owned by an overseas entity, will those
loyal shareholders just go elsewhere?
Speaker 6 (08:54):
Well, I suppose potentially. I mean I can't really answer that.
I guess they've got to be happy with whatever the
dealer is going forward. And I guess competition in the
meat industry such that you know, there are always other
participants prepared to pick up clients. Doesn't matter whether it's
us or another meat company, someone will someone probably has
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the capacity and the wherewithal now to process someone else's stock.
And it's not just it's not just alliances. I mean,
the competition's there amongst all of us to take stock
off each other. And there's a lot of depth to
this game. Now in terms of you know, last men standing,
there's plenty of capacity, obviously, too much capacity, and everyone's
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fighting for their last animal to keep their plants.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
You're Tommy and you know this better than eye. The
industry model is flawed. You know, record prices and yet
the meat companies can't make a buck, some of them
having record losses. As I said at the beginning, the
industry model is flawed.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
It is. There's probably that's probably a fair comment. I mean,
the only way you can make it work is you
have to have extremely efficient plants. So you need to
spend a lot of money on your equipment to keep
it super reliable, super efficient, and capital expenditure on new
technology where it's needed. You have to have a very
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close handle on you fixed overhead so you don't have
too many people running around doing nothing effectively or not
not creating value. You have to sell the product obviously
as well as you can to extract every dollar out
of your sales I suppose volume or in the staff
that sell it have to know what they're doing. So
there are quite a few things that come into it
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now to make it work. And if you trip over
on any of those sort of metrics. It's going to
be a hard thing to make work.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Okay, let's finish on a positive note, and that is
the record prices for the farmers for not only lamb,
but also beef and muttons right up there as well.
I know that for instance, AFCO, you guys have got
a winter contract out or an early spring contract out
at ten dollars fifty. There was talk of an a
lie even dollars schedule in the coming season. We're getting
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a bit carried away with ourselves.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
Yeah, I think so. Like I mean, ten fifty is
a new record that's in mid October, that's in the
North Island. Lamb in both islands bouncing around the ten
dollar mark in both islands. Now they're sort of neck
and neck, but it's it's not really not really ten
fifty or ten dollars or even eleven. It's at the
critical time is you know that December January February period
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where the farmer that's running the US and rear the
lambs taking the production risk. It's that guy or woman, girl,
whatever you want to call them, who needs to make.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
That's very politically corrected, you, Tom, that's.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
That person, I suppose. But what a better term. That
person needs to sort of, you know, hopefully get well
paid and hopefully we see that lamb schedule around at
eight dollars or preps of it better so to stuff
through the winter months and early spring, those old seasons lambs.
It's not What is important is that that summer price
to keep the breeder interested in doing it again next year.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Really well, Tom Young out of AVCO, thank you very
much for your time today. As I said on the
show tomorrow, Mark Win, chairman of the chairperson, Tom chairperson,
person of the Alliance. Oh well, no, no, that was me.
I had to correct myself there. We'll get him on
the show and just see what sort of deal they've
come up with.
Speaker 6 (12:26):
All I can say from f CAR is good luck
to them. Then we wish them will be sort of
solution that works.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Thank you for your time, lovely, Thank you, Thank you, Tom.
Twenty half nineteen after twelve get the time right here
on the country, brought to you by Brandt. Interesting feedback
coming in, Jamie. All these livestock numbers are results are
a result of irresponsible forestry planting, planting Californian weeds all
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over the country in the name of climate change so
much breeding and finishing country covered in pine trees. Now
it's inevitable that we run into a shortfall and meat companies, unfortunately,
we'll go under. And that's from Craig Chloe's finance minister
writes one Texter wouldn't be all bad as we might
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get Venezuela's climate with their economy. And here's one in
a wee bit earlier this morning. I'm not sure whether
this one was for me, but it's interesting reading Tikuiti
add olt cattle saal Friday, the eighth last Friday. Here
if at Angus cross R two stairs sold for two
thousand and seven hundred dollars two thousand and seven hundred
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dollars per head. They were four hundred and ninety nine kilos.
That's five dollars forty one per kilogram. But that is
live weight, not on the hooks, live weight. Huge money.
There is a real irony about some of this country
that should be producing red meat, producing pine trees, but
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the bread meat. I mean, let's face it, the red
meat industry or model has been flawed. It's been flawed
for a long time. I jokingly, I jokingly said to
Tom about the meat companies ringing each other up on
a Friday afternoon and setting the livestock schedule. Well back
in the day, there might have been some truth to that.
And even you heard Tom Young referring to Lamb at
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ten dollars in both islands. Why would you refer to
both islands. I'll tell you why. Because we have different
schedules for differing islands. It's long been a gripe for me.
There's no rhyme or reason to have that, especially when
you're a cooperative. And yet we've got a cooperative that
is going to disappear off the face of the earth tomorrow,
I would imagine. But this is a cooperative that paid
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some people more for their livestock than other people. How
cooperative is that? Just my thoughts anyhow, Right up next,
we're going to look at the bright side of meat. Yep,
she is on the eve of her departure. I think
she might be heading away on when day. Stacy Whker
Beef and Lamb New Zealand Ambassador. Up next on the country.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
By the words wall.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Stream the Tree. She is the Beef and Lamb New
Zealand Ambassador, or one of them. Her name is Stacy Wacker,
and of course Stacy is heading to a big sporting
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event in England later this month. Surprise surprise, she'll be
wearing black. But that's all I can say about that
at the moment. Stacy, I want to talk to you
about your connection with Beef and Lamb New Zealand. How
did it come about? Did you or do you have
a farming background?
Speaker 5 (15:49):
Yeah, I was actually really cool. My agents thought it
about and they kind of reached out. And first of all,
I love Beef and Lamb and I always have my
whole life growing up on a farm rurally and are Tookis.
That's my hometown where my mom and dad still currently live,
and I love I love going back there. It's a
nice piece for a relaxing place. So we did grow
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up on a farm. We didn't actually do the farming itself,
but we did have a lot of animals and did
small parts back there, and I loved that. I loved
growing up with those people doing like we had calves
and chickens and goats lambs, So it was fun. It
was real fun as a kid for my childhood growing up.
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And it's cool now that I've just recently purchased my
own farm in Totunga, and I get to kind of
share that with my people who come over here.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
With the met Well, how BIG's your farm if you
don't mind the asking staff.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
Five and a half acres, so it's not small, but
it's not massive.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
So we've got.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
Three sets off at it's at the moment, I've got
five carves too, lambs and ten chickens, but we'll probably
get more one day when we can kind of handle
them a load.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Now, does that add that Beef and Lamb New Zealand
ran with the cute little girl there, who was you
obviously when you were a kid. Does that bear any
resemblance to how you grew up?
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (17:11):
One, Like I mean growing up for me, playing sport
was kind of like my fun get away from everything,
and I loved it. I'm a very competitive person, but
I did love my food. And you know, just having
that background in Lost Dollar is probably a reflection of
who I am today, which I'm really grateful for.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
You're following in some big footsteps with Beef and Lamb
New Zealand. You're an ambassador or that's your title these days, Stacy,
But I go back to the Iron Maidens. You know,
Sarah Olmer, the Everswindele Twins. More recently, Lisa Carrington, Sophie Pasco,
Sarah Walker, Eliza McCartney. Some wonderful female athletes representing the brand.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
Yeah, it makes me feel a little bit catfish. I'm like, oh,
the All Glabel Stars and I'm just a the rugby
player who you know.
Speaker 6 (18:01):
I'm grateful.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
So I'm extremely grateful, but I try my best to
help out the team and I'm just probably honored, I
guess to be alongside them, and you know know that
what they did for our country for in their sports
was absolutely amazing and it was cool to kind of
see that growing up and now to be kind of
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one of them, I'm like, wow, this is really cool.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
How important is the protein and particularly the likes of
the iron are important for your diet when you're a
female athlete.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah, look, it's obviously there's lots of research out there
about it, and I know, being a female, extremely active female,
that we kind of need more in our systems with
how our body works.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
So yeah, always have always loved me. You didn't really
know the importance of it as a kid, though, you know,
you enjoy it because you love the taste. But the
more I've played professional sport, the more I've kind of
actually learnt the science behind and you know, your iron
levels and protein levels of what you kind of need
to feel yourself to be a better athlete on the field.
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It's been a real interesting journey. But you know, I've
never studied it at school. You just kind of learn
this thing through being a high performance athlete. And I'm
real grateful and love that because we learn lots of
things playing paying sports for our hunting. So yeah, just
very lucky.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
As a beef and lamb ambassador, obviously you have to
sample some of the products. I love a good steak,
but if I had to pick one out of the
entire stable, Stacy, this is just me. I'm going with
the lamb wreck. What are you going with?
Speaker 5 (19:34):
Oh that's a hard one. I love a lambtop, but
that's my lamb. If I had to do the beef,
I love the saloon cut on a steak like that's
my absolute favorite. And it has to be cooked Like
I'm kind of a medium person. It has to be
cooked at are really good. I'm fussy now a this
is just I shouldn't be, but I love it. I
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love my meat.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Last time you played in a big sport event in
a black jersey at Eden Park and was fifteen of
you on the paddock. I've got to be so careful
what I say here, Stacey. You scored a cracker of
a try and I loved that game of rugby and
I thought you were the player of the match in
that game. Wearing a black jersey bring back fond memories
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and are you how how much are you looking forward
to playing rugby with fourteen other women At the time
in England, I thought that was.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Going to be my last time wearing the black jersey
with that team, just because it was cool, it was fun.
We kind of won and I had all these other
dreams and it was like, like you said, there was
lots of moments in there where we probably shouldn't have won,
but we always found a way. And that's what they
think is special about where the black jersey is. The comaraderie,
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the connections not only on the field but off the
field is weird.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
All starts.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
So a few five forwards now and thinking back, oh
I'm back here again. Then we've got another big pinnacle
events to prepare for. I'm hugely on it. It's usually grateful.
Twenty nine years old and you know, going going again
for another tournament. It's real cool, it's real special. I'm
looking forward to it. I mean, England is a long
way away.
Speaker 6 (21:16):
We're ready.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
We've done all the money, we've done everything we possibly
can this year, and now we've just got to try
and take it game by game until we get to
that big final and hopefully win it.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Stacey Waker with us, who is of course the Beef
and Lamb New Zealand Ambassador. We've got lots of great
players rugby players in this country, male and female. Do
you know what I reckon, Stacy, I reckon the best
of the lot is Georgia Miller. What so you?
Speaker 5 (21:39):
Oh? Honestly she you know what, we were just talking.
We had a training session out in the rain today
and we got absolutely flogged out on the grass, then
on the bike and me and the girls talking about it.
I think she's going to make a bit of history
of this year. She's won seventh Player of the Year already.
I honestly think she's going to be the fifteen players. Yeah.
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I just she's that type of person. She has so
much skill, fleair, She's fit fast on she's so deceptive
and so hard to tackle if you're training to every
day and it's still I still lose half the time.
But it's just I think the way she runs is
like really deceiving to be there. My my nephews actually
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just asked me today as children will are not that fast.
She actually calculates as one of the slower ones in
our team, but she looks fast because she can hold
her pace and she's extremely fit, So I don't know
what's going on there. She is absolute and absolute machine,
and I'm so glad she's on our team and not
on the opposition.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Stacy Waker, thank you very much for your time, good
luck in England with that big sporting event coming up
later in the month and you're wearing black. Thanks for
your time.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
No right, thank you so much. Hopefully we can bring
it home.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Thank you, Stacy. And no doubt when you're playing Ireland.
I think that's in one of the games in that
big sporting event in England that we can't mention by name.
Have I mentioned how much I detest ends are not
the all blacks, love the all blacks, but ends are
make life difficult Anyhow, I think you'll hear lots of
this one from the Cranberries. It is the cranberries, isn't it.
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I like to check with Michelle when she comes in.
Zombie unofficial theme for Irish rugby. Now look some of
your feedback and it's coming in thick and fast. Your
great poet Graham Williams warned of all the capital stock
disappearing due to pines about three years ago, says Sarah.
Jen says, Hi, Jamie, have we lost the world to live?
I can't believe how many of us would still vote
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Labor after their last disaster. They haven't even had a makeover.
They're still singing the same old song you bang on, Jen,
I think Chippy's just planning to sleepwalk to victory, if
indeed that happens. But the election won't be decided in
a poll now, a year and a bit out from
the election. It's going to be decided did this time
next year, August September October of next year, And it'll
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all depend on the economy. Surely the economy can't get
much worse. Just a bit more of your in your
more of your feedback coming in, and yeah, I think
i'll quote the guy he won't mind. Good farmer Grant
Weller along with his lovely wife Bernie. They won the
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balanced farm Envorrin rewards. Grunter says, if they want breeders
to keep sheep numbers up, an eight dollars shedule through
the peak of the season isn't going to cut it
any longer, particularly for Southland sheep farmers and Grant's Bernie
got a beautiful farm on the Hokanui Hills, north facing lovely, lovely,
lovely piece of land there. Good farmers go down the
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road a few kilometers and unfortunately a block of land
has been sold to carbon farming forestry. Plenty of places
facing slopes they could have planted the trees, but no,
apparently they're going to do the north facing ones as well.
I don't care what you say. It's a crime. Up next,
Michelle with the latest and rural news and sports news.
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We've got a TV poll tonight. I think it might
be TV one. The Taxpayer's Union Curier poll has hung
Parliament sixty one seat seats. We could look forward to
Chloe being Minister of Finance. Update your passport folks up.
That'll be after the break. We fell in an Irish
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m Z.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Now, Ed Sharon's not Irish, but this is obviously gone
with this one because of the Galway connection. Right.
Speaker 7 (28:09):
Yeah, I was kind of I don't know, I didn't
want to because I'm not a huge fan, to be
honest of Ed.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Yeah, I went to see him when he was in
Duned and he's coming. I know he's not coming to Dus.
Speaker 7 (28:19):
We've got a mural of him and he shunned us.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
We've got a mural in Bath Street. It's like it's
only a lob wedge away from here.
Speaker 6 (28:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Very good entertainer, but he's kind of songs. He sort
of sound the same a bit to me. But anyhow,
he's not as bad as pretchy old Bono and you too.
A metal upset a lot of people. Right, Let's do sports.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
News sport with an Athco Kiwi to the bone since
nineteen oh.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Four and talking about Ed shunning us for christ Church
He's soon to be completed. Christ Church Stadium has been
anointed as the venue for the return of Super Rugby's
Super Round on Anzac weekend next year. This sounds good.
The Crusaders will open proceedings against a yet to be
confirmed opponent on Friday, the twenty fourth of April, the
(29:07):
eve of Anzac Day. The Hurricanes and Brumbys will square
off on Anzac Day's Saturday, along with the Blues and Reds,
before another doubleheader to close the event on Sunday. I
suppose they can almost go for all trans Tasman clashes.
Tikaha is due to open the week before. What a
great way to kick off footy in christ Church Stadium.
(29:28):
And golfer Justin Rose has one on the third Southern
Death Hole against jj Spawn at the latest USPGA Tour
event in Memphis. Both initially finished at sixteen underpar I
thought Sheffler was going to run away with that one.
He was there or thereabouts up next. Barry Soaper on
the TV polls and lots of your feedback coming in
(29:52):
as well. Can I read this one out? Well, here's one.
Why have you never interviewed Chloe? You interviewed Chippy it's
about balance, writes Graham.
Speaker 7 (30:02):
We've actually tried, We've tried to get it and.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Tried that hard. I interviewed Chloe after she won and
after she won Auckland Central in twenty twenty because she
was relatively new. She dors door knocked fourteen thousand doors,
and I thought, and she's got an interesting background. She
worked in media for a while. She's an interesting character.
She's not an unlikable character. Her policies are unlikable, but
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she's not. But Chloe is Minister of Finance. Yep, update
your passports, That's what I say. We'll see what Barry
Soper says next. You really got to telling script. Don't
even know when Welcome Back to the Country caught her
(30:50):
away from one Barry's soaper on politics, mister them on Friday,
Barry taxpayer, taxpayers Union, Caurier poll out. This small has
a hung parliament. We've got another. So John Tullock, Winston's
right hand man, tells me a TV poll tonight. Is
it on TV one? What's the inside all there?
Speaker 4 (31:11):
It will be TV one. Yeah, it's interesting, isn't it.
I guess the hung parliament, but we should reflect on
their vote next year because we see Coe Swarbrick, the
co leader of the Green Party, declared that she wanted
to beat the Finance Minister in a new Labor coalition,
although she says it'll be a Green lead coalition. So
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that's the alternative we're going to be looking at.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Jamie Well, I'm updating the passport Barry. Mine expires actually
the end of next year, so if the election goes
the wrong way, I might just get out of the
country in time. Look, it's interesting. It's what Bill Clinton's
economic advisor. I keep forgetting his name. You can remind
me the guy who came up with the saying it's
(31:58):
all about the economy stupid and that's what it's about.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Yes, it is. And you know, for anybody really to
expect now that the polls are going to be glowing
for a government, even though prom promises were made before
they saw the full extent of the books and the
lead up to the two thousand and three election, nobody
should be surprised where they are at the moment. I mean,
(32:22):
if you think back, and I was the other day
when you reflect on polls the first year of the
long e Labor government with Roger Douglas. I mean people
went through hell in that first three years, and Roger
Douglas used to say short term pain for long term gain,
and they went to the eighty seven election goes it
overwhelmingly back into office. People should reflect on that because
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there have been tough times before, there are tough times now.
And that's not to say that we shouldn't feel for
the people that are suffering at the moment, but I
think personally looking at the way things are going better
times around the corner next year.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Hey, well Winston, you got to hand it to him,
brilliant grandstanding over the high vers vest and the helmet.
I love one. Can I say that I shouldn't really
say that he's dead right?
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Well, you know the point that he made was what
is the point of me going on his death on
a train? I mean, it's not a demolition site, hopefully so.
I suppose if the trane did crash, against all odds,
they would find him easier, although if they look for
a pinstripe suit, I think he'd be very distinctive in
any train accident.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Well, o, Jen Prime, undescribable incompetence.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
Well, absolutely, this woman has always been over estimated in politics,
and my view that you know, she is very lucky
to be where she is. She was a minister in
the CRUs Hipkins government, don't forget, and here she is.
Frequent officers offered by Erica Stanford in the lead up
(34:03):
to the NCEA Changers, never replied initially, then finally replied,
when all the decisions have been made? Are so much
for consultation? And the call by Chris Hopkins in particular
former Education Minister, I might say, saying that you know
we want to have a consultative approach to these big decisions.
(34:23):
Well they were off with one. What did they do?
They turned their backs on it. And that says a
lot about a party that wants to go its own
way and bugger the rest of them.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Okay, Barry, let me be clear about this. It's a paraphraser,
Prime Minister. Does he get the optics wrong? Cuddling elbow?
Or am I just too old school?
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Well you are too old school. I mean these people,
these men have known each other for ten years, Jamie,
and I've given you the odd hug on the odd occasions.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
But we're family, Barry.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
But we're Southern boys too, and I'm a hugger. I've
got to say so, you know, I think exactly Chris
Luxen did what he should have done to an old mate.
And they knew each other outside of politics. They've been
pretty good mates over the years. What's wrong with our hag?
I mean, get your own house and order.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Well, it's me told off. Thanks past. I'll catch you
back on Friday, Jamie. There we go, ronan keating life
is a roller coaster does indeed, especially if you're in
the game of politics. I will come back to some
of your feedback. And Phil Duncan on the most important
farming months and the calendars years August and September. The rapper.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Don't even know where to begin.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Beside you, it is seven away from one. Irish music
for today Dawn meets on the menu for tomorrow is
this West Life? Yep, yep, West Life flying without Wings,
especially for the Green Party at on a slightly different
topic to do with co ops is at now time
(36:04):
this is a text to rationalize our two fertilizer cooperatives
into one. Now we have manco as competition. That's an
interesting point you raise.
Speaker 6 (36:14):
Text.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
The good thing about the fertilizer co ops is they're
competing against against one another. The ultimate benefactor is the
farmer or the customer. It's a bit different because you're
buying off them, whereas the meat companies are buying off you,
if you know what I mean. So I would be
in favor of leaving a balance and Ravenstown to scrap
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it out because I think they keep each other very
honest and there is room in the market for outside players. Right,
We're going to wrap it with Phil Duncan and some
more of your feedback. Here's one coming in, Georgia Miller.
What a player. If she ain't the modern day female
equivalent of Richie McCaw, then old gohe says, Ted. I'm
with you, Ted, just leaning on the weather the welcome
(37:09):
back to the country. This is Bee, which I can't
blame it on the weather man because I've run myself
out of time. Such a lot of feedback coming in today.
We really do appreciate her. I won't blame it on
the weather man, Fell Duncan, but I will catch him tomorrow.
Other feedback coming in. You're right about updating your passport, Jamie.
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Last one turn out the lights Stacy Wiker Great interview.
Jamie says, Kevin Mattha matter farmer, and then Mike is
suggesting maybe the carbon farming's doing us a favor because
if we'd hadn't had all the land gobbled up with
pine trees, we wouldn't we would have more meat and
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the prices wouldn't be as good. Don't agree with you there, sorry, Mike,
because the problem or the good problem, we've got at
the the Americans will take every bit of meat, especially
the grinding beef that we can produce, and it's a
real shortage of lamb worldwide, So don't buy that. I'm
all for planting pine trees. Farmers can be carbon farmers,
just don't blanket plant the bloody things on productive pastoral land.
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End of argument. Hats you tomorrow.
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Irish theme today for Irish company Dawn Meats rumored to
be buying a seventy percent stake in the Alliance Group
for two hundred and seventy million dollars. We'll find out tomorrow.
We will have the Alliance Group chairman Mark When on
(01:04):
the show, all will be revealed. It's really sort of
high industry, high industry. Try that again, A high noon
for the red meat industry at the moment. So record
prices for the farmers, that's fine and dandy, but some
of the meat processing companies or co ops are having
record losses. We're going to look at it very shortly.
(01:25):
In fact, we're going to kick off the show with
a participant from the red meat industry. Will get his
view on what could happen tomorrow and is the red
meat model industry model fatally flawed. We're going to stick
with the red meat theme because we've got Stacy Waka
on the show today on the eve of her departure
(01:46):
for a big sporting event in England featuring fifteen Kiwi
women wearing black g I love NZA. What a farce
that we can't talk about it directly, but anyhow, I'm
going to talk about red meat with Stacy Wiker, Beef
and Lamb. New Zealand's ambassador Barry Soper, mister Mom on Friday.
(02:07):
He's on the show today. You might have caught up
with the news the latest taxpayer union curier poll effectively
has it has us with a hung parliament. There is
apparently a TV poll tonight. I think it's rumored to
be TV one. Don't hold me to that one. So
we'll see what that comes up with. So and we've
had the debarcle if you call it that, Winston in
(02:29):
the High is I with Winston on that one? Luso
cuddling albow, Chloe wanting to be Minister of Finance, see
a better update my passport if that comes to pass.
Willow Jen Prime, what an embarrassment dropping the ball completely
over education? And Phil Duncan on the weather. They are
the most important farming months, August and September. We're going
(02:51):
to update them with you, but we're going to kick
off the show first with some informed, hopefully comment on
the state of the red meat industry. Batty old Up?
Why kicked my girl? Why in the factory?
Speaker 5 (03:10):
Whow thirty?
Speaker 6 (03:13):
Old town?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Dirty old town?
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Interesting times in the red meat industry. Record prices, but
record losses for some meat companies. Have we just got
too many of them? We definitely have too much capacity.
I'm going to get the thoughts of this man who's
a participant in the industry. He's the National Livestock Manager
for AFCA. His name is Tom Young, and Tom of
(03:39):
the Tally's going to have a ping at the Alliance
Group and eleventh our bid tonight.
Speaker 6 (03:43):
Maybe, Oh, look, I don't think so. Well, I don't
know and I don't think so. But it's probably another participant.
They'll be looking at that, Jamie. But yeah, it's not really,
it's not really at my pay grade. It's a few
levels above me.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Well, I'm reading from Riley Kennedy's excellent story on Business Desk,
and he said silver Fern Farms was the only domestic
processor to publicly state its willingness to play a part
in the capital rays. But it's widely considered that most
of the other big players of which you're wanted AFCO
did so behind closed doors. So you've all had a
(04:20):
bit of a sniff about it. But would buying the
Alliance Group solve any problems for meat companies? We just
need to rationalize the industry or we just not got
enough critical mass.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
Yeah, well, I think the industry does need consolidation of
some sort, whether that's Alliance or other companies, shut plants
or a combination of plants. There's no doubt about it
that stock numbers have fallen a lot, particularly in the
last two or three years. So it's not just the
sheep business. You know, the beef numbers are falling as
well in both islands. Yeah, So you know, I don't
(04:58):
think it's just an Alliance problem. It's a problem we've got.
It's a problem solver. Firn's got it's problem. Probably everyone's gone.
Is finding enough stock to make these plants sufficient and
keep the labor employed for five days a week, and
that's where probably most of the issues lie.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
So with record beef prices, let's just look at beef.
Isn't that enough to rekindle more interest in the red
meat industry. People maybe change their farming operation to have
more beef in it, for instance.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
Yeah, well possibly. I mean, we're certainly seeing a drop
and Bobby cavs being processed, and I think a lot
of them are finding their way into calf rearing operations,
So you know, we will see those, and I suppose
eighteen months to two and a half years time, so
there's a bit of a wait till till they arrive.
But certainly I think that the interest is there, but
I think it's just ongoing changing. Land use is just
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sort of relentless. Every year, probably more and more properties
are just quietly going into trees we don't know about.
And so you know, just the base, the base capital
stock of us and cows is not there to keep
providing adequate volumes of stock, and then all the meat
companies are probably well, I suppose I can only really
talk so to speak for aft cover. You know, certainly
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the labor's back now. Everyone wants a job versus where
it was three or four years ago with COVID, so
you know, the through puts are up, so the efficiencies
are back, and without the volume of stock, you know,
you're doing sort of three or four days a week.
And I think a lot of companies can probably make
it work on four days, or the labor can anyway.
But once you get down to three days of work
(06:37):
a week, your staff on plant just don't don't take
enough home every week to sort of hang around and
make that system work.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
What's the inside ail within the industry? Because we're hearing
Irish meat company Dawn meets two hundred and seventy million
for a seventy percent stake. I know you guys talk tom,
you bring each other up on a Friday afternoon to
set the schedule.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
I don't think so.
Speaker 6 (07:01):
I'm not going to prison to see the schedule. Restisue
of that talk to who talk to Dawn meets or No?
Speaker 3 (07:07):
What's the one?
Speaker 6 (07:08):
I mean?
Speaker 3 (07:08):
What's the inside industry gossip? Is this a done deal?
The Stawn Meats thing?
Speaker 6 (07:13):
Well, I have absolutely no idea, to be quite frank,
and it's pure speculation, So I don't know. I can't
answer that well, that way.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
We'll have a look at some of that speculation on
tomorrow's show. I think nine o'clock tomorrow morning we find
out and we have got the Alliance Group Chairman Mark
went on to explain it. But even if they've come
up with a deal like that time, they've still got
to get the shareholders to vote for it, which might
be a sticky proposition, and then they've still got to
get OIO approval.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
Sure, yeah, I mean that's that's always a challenging thing
to you know, change I suppose the ownership structure radically.
If that's what it comes down to you. To make
a deal work, you've got to convince existing shareholders that
you know, this is the new way forward, you know. Really,
I mean, I can't comment, do I want to comment
too much on Alliance. We've got our own problems and
(08:03):
we do it do things the hurway. Most people know that.
But hopefully they can find something that works for all
parties and we wish them the best to luck with it.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
So are you other meat companies going to pick over
the Alliance carcass? If indeed going to hang on? Tom
I want to let me throw the no, no, let
me throw the scenario at you, because I'm assuming a
lot of people have stuck with the Alliance group because
they are one hundred percent farmer owned cooperative. We know
that Silver Fern Farms did a joint venture with Shanghai
(08:33):
Mailing Bright Meats or whatever, so they're only fifty to
fifty now. So this is the last one hundred percent
fully owned farmer cooperative and that was certainly an encouragement
for many farmers to stay in there. If they suddenly
become seventy percent owned by an overseas entity, will those
loyal shareholders just go elsewhere?
Speaker 6 (08:54):
Well, I suppose potentially. I mean I can't really answer that.
I guess they've got to be happy with whatever the
dealer is going forward. And I guess competition in the
meat industry such that you know, there are always other
participants prepared to pick up clients. Doesn't matter whether it's
us or another meat company, someone will someone probably has
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the capacity and the wherewithal now to process someone else's stock.
And it's not just it's not just alliances. I mean,
the competition's there amongst all of us to take stock
off each other. And there's a lot of depth to
this game. Now in terms of you know, last men standing,
there's plenty of capacity, obviously, too much capacity, and everyone's
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fighting for their last animal to keep their plants.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
You're Tommy and you know this better than eye. The
industry model is flawed. You know, record prices and yet
the meat companies can't make a buck, some of them
having record losses. As I said at the beginning, the
industry model is flawed.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
It is. There's probably that's probably a fair comment. I mean,
the only way you can make it work is you
have to have extremely efficient plants. So you need to
spend a lot of money on your equipment to keep
it super reliable, super efficient, and capital expenditure on new
technology where it's needed. You have to have a very
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close handle on you fixed overhead so you don't have
too many people running around doing nothing effectively or not
not creating value. You have to sell the product obviously
as well as you can to extract every dollar out
of your sales I suppose volume or in the staff
that sell it have to know what they're doing. So
there are quite a few things that come into it
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now to make it work. And if you trip over
on any of those sort of metrics. It's going to
be a hard thing to make work.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Okay, let's finish on a positive note, and that is
the record prices for the farmers for not only lamb,
but also beef and muttons right up there as well.
I know that for instance, AFCO, you guys have got
a winter contract out or an early spring contract out
at ten dollars fifty. There was talk of an a
lie even dollars schedule in the coming season. We're getting
(11:03):
a bit carried away with ourselves.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
Yeah, I think so. Like I mean, ten fifty is
a new record that's in mid October, that's in the
North Island. Lamb in both islands bouncing around the ten
dollar mark in both islands. Now they're sort of neck
and neck, but it's it's not really not really ten
fifty or ten dollars or even eleven. It's at the
critical time is you know that December January February period
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where the farmer that's running the US and rear the
lambs taking the production risk. It's that guy or woman, girl,
whatever you want to call them, who needs to make.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
That's very politically corrected, you, Tom, that's.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
That person, I suppose. But what a better term. That
person needs to sort of, you know, hopefully get well
paid and hopefully we see that lamb schedule around at
eight dollars or preps of it better so to stuff
through the winter months and early spring, those old seasons lambs.
It's not What is important is that that summer price
to keep the breeder interested in doing it again next year.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Really well, Tom Young out of AVCO, thank you very
much for your time today. As I said on the
show tomorrow, Mark Win, chairman of the chairperson, Tom chairperson,
person of the Alliance. Oh well, no, no, that was me.
I had to correct myself there. We'll get him on
the show and just see what sort of deal they've
come up with.
Speaker 6 (12:26):
All I can say from f CAR is good luck
to them. Then we wish them will be sort of
solution that works.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Thank you for your time, lovely, Thank you, Thank you, Tom.
Twenty half nineteen after twelve get the time right here
on the country, brought to you by Brandt. Interesting feedback
coming in, Jamie. All these livestock numbers are results are
a result of irresponsible forestry planting, planting Californian weeds all
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over the country in the name of climate change so
much breeding and finishing country covered in pine trees. Now
it's inevitable that we run into a shortfall and meat companies, unfortunately,
we'll go under. And that's from Craig Chloe's finance minister
writes one Texter wouldn't be all bad as we might
(13:14):
get Venezuela's climate with their economy. And here's one in
a wee bit earlier this morning. I'm not sure whether
this one was for me, but it's interesting reading Tikuiti
add olt cattle saal Friday, the eighth last Friday. Here
if at Angus cross R two stairs sold for two
thousand and seven hundred dollars two thousand and seven hundred
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dollars per head. They were four hundred and ninety nine kilos.
That's five dollars forty one per kilogram. But that is
live weight, not on the hooks, live weight. Huge money.
There is a real irony about some of this country
that should be producing red meat, producing pine trees, but
(13:59):
the bread meat. I mean, let's face it, the red
meat industry or model has been flawed. It's been flawed
for a long time. I jokingly, I jokingly said to
Tom about the meat companies ringing each other up on
a Friday afternoon and setting the livestock schedule. Well back
in the day, there might have been some truth to that.
And even you heard Tom Young referring to Lamb at
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ten dollars in both islands. Why would you refer to
both islands. I'll tell you why. Because we have different
schedules for differing islands. It's long been a gripe for me.
There's no rhyme or reason to have that, especially when
you're a cooperative. And yet we've got a cooperative that
is going to disappear off the face of the earth tomorrow,
I would imagine. But this is a cooperative that paid
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some people more for their livestock than other people. How
cooperative is that? Just my thoughts anyhow, Right up next,
we're going to look at the bright side of meat. Yep,
she is on the eve of her departure. I think
she might be heading away on when day. Stacy Whker
Beef and Lamb New Zealand Ambassador. Up next on the country.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
By the words wall.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Stream the Tree. She is the Beef and Lamb New
Zealand Ambassador, or one of them. Her name is Stacy Wacker,
and of course Stacy is heading to a big sporting
(15:33):
event in England later this month. Surprise surprise, she'll be
wearing black. But that's all I can say about that
at the moment. Stacy, I want to talk to you
about your connection with Beef and Lamb New Zealand. How
did it come about? Did you or do you have
a farming background?
Speaker 5 (15:49):
Yeah, I was actually really cool. My agents thought it
about and they kind of reached out. And first of all,
I love Beef and Lamb and I always have my
whole life growing up on a farm rurally and are Tookis.
That's my hometown where my mom and dad still currently live,
and I love I love going back there. It's a
nice piece for a relaxing place. So we did grow
(16:09):
up on a farm. We didn't actually do the farming itself,
but we did have a lot of animals and did
small parts back there, and I loved that. I loved
growing up with those people doing like we had calves
and chickens and goats lambs, So it was fun. It
was real fun as a kid for my childhood growing up.
(16:30):
And it's cool now that I've just recently purchased my
own farm in Totunga, and I get to kind of
share that with my people who come over here.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
With the met Well, how BIG's your farm if you
don't mind the asking staff.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
Five and a half acres, so it's not small, but
it's not massive.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
So we've got.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
Three sets off at it's at the moment, I've got
five carves too, lambs and ten chickens, but we'll probably
get more one day when we can kind of handle
them a load.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Now, does that add that Beef and Lamb New Zealand
ran with the cute little girl there, who was you
obviously when you were a kid. Does that bear any
resemblance to how you grew up?
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (17:11):
One, Like I mean growing up for me, playing sport
was kind of like my fun get away from everything,
and I loved it. I'm a very competitive person, but
I did love my food. And you know, just having
that background in Lost Dollar is probably a reflection of
who I am today, which I'm really grateful for.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
You're following in some big footsteps with Beef and Lamb
New Zealand. You're an ambassador or that's your title these days, Stacy,
But I go back to the Iron Maidens. You know,
Sarah Olmer, the Everswindele Twins. More recently, Lisa Carrington, Sophie Pasco,
Sarah Walker, Eliza McCartney. Some wonderful female athletes representing the brand.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
Yeah, it makes me feel a little bit catfish. I'm like, oh,
the All Glabel Stars and I'm just a the rugby
player who you know.
Speaker 6 (18:01):
I'm grateful.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
So I'm extremely grateful, but I try my best to
help out the team and I'm just probably honored, I
guess to be alongside them, and you know know that
what they did for our country for in their sports
was absolutely amazing and it was cool to kind of
see that growing up and now to be kind of
(18:24):
one of them, I'm like, wow, this is really cool.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
How important is the protein and particularly the likes of
the iron are important for your diet when you're a
female athlete.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah, look, it's obviously there's lots of research out there
about it, and I know, being a female, extremely active female,
that we kind of need more in our systems with
how our body works.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
So yeah, always have always loved me. You didn't really
know the importance of it as a kid, though, you know,
you enjoy it because you love the taste. But the
more I've played professional sport, the more I've kind of
actually learnt the science behind and you know, your iron
levels and protein levels of what you kind of need
to feel yourself to be a better athlete on the field.
(19:07):
It's been a real interesting journey. But you know, I've
never studied it at school. You just kind of learn
this thing through being a high performance athlete. And I'm
real grateful and love that because we learn lots of
things playing paying sports for our hunting. So yeah, just
very lucky.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
As a beef and lamb ambassador, obviously you have to
sample some of the products. I love a good steak,
but if I had to pick one out of the
entire stable, Stacy, this is just me. I'm going with
the lamb wreck. What are you going with?
Speaker 5 (19:34):
Oh that's a hard one. I love a lambtop, but
that's my lamb. If I had to do the beef,
I love the saloon cut on a steak like that's
my absolute favorite. And it has to be cooked Like
I'm kind of a medium person. It has to be
cooked at are really good. I'm fussy now a this
is just I shouldn't be, but I love it. I
(19:56):
love my meat.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Last time you played in a big sport event in
a black jersey at Eden Park and was fifteen of
you on the paddock. I've got to be so careful
what I say here, Stacey. You scored a cracker of
a try and I loved that game of rugby and
I thought you were the player of the match in
that game. Wearing a black jersey bring back fond memories
(20:18):
and are you how how much are you looking forward
to playing rugby with fourteen other women At the time
in England, I thought that was.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Going to be my last time wearing the black jersey
with that team, just because it was cool, it was fun.
We kind of won and I had all these other
dreams and it was like, like you said, there was
lots of moments in there where we probably shouldn't have won,
but we always found a way. And that's what they
think is special about where the black jersey is. The comaraderie,
(20:50):
the connections not only on the field but off the
field is weird.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
All starts.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
So a few five forwards now and thinking back, oh
I'm back here again. Then we've got another big pinnacle
events to prepare for. I'm hugely on it. It's usually grateful.
Twenty nine years old and you know, going going again
for another tournament. It's real cool, it's real special. I'm
looking forward to it. I mean, England is a long
way away.
Speaker 6 (21:16):
We're ready.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
We've done all the money, we've done everything we possibly
can this year, and now we've just got to try
and take it game by game until we get to
that big final and hopefully win it.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Stacey Waker with us, who is of course the Beef
and Lamb New Zealand Ambassador. We've got lots of great
players rugby players in this country, male and female. Do
you know what I reckon, Stacy, I reckon the best
of the lot is Georgia Miller. What so you?
Speaker 5 (21:39):
Oh? Honestly she you know what, we were just talking.
We had a training session out in the rain today
and we got absolutely flogged out on the grass, then
on the bike and me and the girls talking about it.
I think she's going to make a bit of history
of this year. She's won seventh Player of the Year already.
I honestly think she's going to be the fifteen players. Yeah.
(22:00):
I just she's that type of person. She has so
much skill, fleair, She's fit fast on she's so deceptive
and so hard to tackle if you're training to every
day and it's still I still lose half the time.
But it's just I think the way she runs is
like really deceiving to be there. My my nephews actually
(22:21):
just asked me today as children will are not that fast.
She actually calculates as one of the slower ones in
our team, but she looks fast because she can hold
her pace and she's extremely fit, So I don't know
what's going on there. She is absolute and absolute machine,
and I'm so glad she's on our team and not
on the opposition.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Stacy Waker, thank you very much for your time, good
luck in England with that big sporting event coming up
later in the month and you're wearing black. Thanks for
your time.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
No right, thank you so much. Hopefully we can bring
it home.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Thank you, Stacy. And no doubt when you're playing Ireland.
I think that's in one of the games in that
big sporting event in England that we can't mention by name.
Have I mentioned how much I detest ends are not
the all blacks, love the all blacks, but ends are
make life difficult Anyhow, I think you'll hear lots of
this one from the Cranberries. It is the cranberries, isn't it.
(23:20):
I like to check with Michelle when she comes in.
Zombie unofficial theme for Irish rugby. Now look some of
your feedback and it's coming in thick and fast. Your
great poet Graham Williams warned of all the capital stock
disappearing due to pines about three years ago, says Sarah.
Jen says, Hi, Jamie, have we lost the world to live?
I can't believe how many of us would still vote
(23:41):
Labor after their last disaster. They haven't even had a makeover.
They're still singing the same old song you bang on, Jen,
I think Chippy's just planning to sleepwalk to victory, if
indeed that happens. But the election won't be decided in
a poll now, a year and a bit out from
the election. It's going to be decided did this time
next year, August September October of next year, And it'll
(24:05):
all depend on the economy. Surely the economy can't get
much worse. Just a bit more of your in your
more of your feedback coming in, and yeah, I think
i'll quote the guy he won't mind. Good farmer Grant
Weller along with his lovely wife Bernie. They won the
(24:26):
balanced farm Envorrin rewards. Grunter says, if they want breeders
to keep sheep numbers up, an eight dollars shedule through
the peak of the season isn't going to cut it
any longer, particularly for Southland sheep farmers and Grant's Bernie
got a beautiful farm on the Hokanui Hills, north facing lovely, lovely,
lovely piece of land there. Good farmers go down the
(24:50):
road a few kilometers and unfortunately a block of land
has been sold to carbon farming forestry. Plenty of places
facing slopes they could have planted the trees, but no,
apparently they're going to do the north facing ones as well.
I don't care what you say. It's a crime. Up next,
Michelle with the latest and rural news and sports news.
(25:12):
We've got a TV poll tonight. I think it might
be TV one. The Taxpayer's Union Curier poll has hung
Parliament sixty one seat seats. We could look forward to
Chloe being Minister of Finance. Update your passport folks up.
That'll be after the break. We fell in an Irish
(25:34):
bamp she fell in love with an Englishman.
Speaker 6 (25:37):
You still the necond then it's good By the hands
of baby.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
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I can't make up in the mind whether it's twenty
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You can find more at the Country dot co dot
m Z.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Now, Ed Sharon's not Irish, but this is obviously gone
with this one because of the Galway connection. Right.
Speaker 7 (28:09):
Yeah, I was kind of I don't know, I didn't
want to because I'm not a huge fan, to be
honest of Ed.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Yeah, I went to see him when he was in
Duned and he's coming. I know he's not coming to Dus.
Speaker 7 (28:19):
We've got a mural of him and he shunned us.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
We've got a mural in Bath Street. It's like it's
only a lob wedge away from here.
Speaker 6 (28:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Very good entertainer, but he's kind of songs. He sort
of sound the same a bit to me. But anyhow,
he's not as bad as pretchy old Bono and you too.
A metal upset a lot of people. Right, Let's do sports.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
News sport with an Athco Kiwi to the bone since
nineteen oh.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Four and talking about Ed shunning us for christ Church
He's soon to be completed. Christ Church Stadium has been
anointed as the venue for the return of Super Rugby's
Super Round on Anzac weekend next year. This sounds good.
The Crusaders will open proceedings against a yet to be
confirmed opponent on Friday, the twenty fourth of April, the
(29:07):
eve of Anzac Day. The Hurricanes and Brumbys will square
off on Anzac Day's Saturday, along with the Blues and Reds,
before another doubleheader to close the event on Sunday. I
suppose they can almost go for all trans Tasman clashes.
Tikaha is due to open the week before. What a
great way to kick off footy in christ Church Stadium.
(29:28):
And golfer Justin Rose has one on the third Southern
Death Hole against jj Spawn at the latest USPGA Tour
event in Memphis. Both initially finished at sixteen underpar I
thought Sheffler was going to run away with that one.
He was there or thereabouts up next. Barry Soaper on
the TV polls and lots of your feedback coming in
(29:52):
as well. Can I read this one out? Well, here's one.
Why have you never interviewed Chloe? You interviewed Chippy it's
about balance, writes Graham.
Speaker 7 (30:02):
We've actually tried, We've tried to get it and.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Tried that hard. I interviewed Chloe after she won and
after she won Auckland Central in twenty twenty because she
was relatively new. She dors door knocked fourteen thousand doors,
and I thought, and she's got an interesting background. She
worked in media for a while. She's an interesting character.
She's not an unlikable character. Her policies are unlikable, but
(30:29):
she's not. But Chloe is Minister of Finance. Yep, update
your passports, That's what I say. We'll see what Barry
Soper says next. You really got to telling script. Don't
even know when Welcome Back to the Country caught her
(30:50):
away from one Barry's soaper on politics, mister them on Friday,
Barry taxpayer, taxpayers Union, Caurier poll out. This small has
a hung parliament. We've got another. So John Tullock, Winston's
right hand man, tells me a TV poll tonight. Is
it on TV one? What's the inside all there?
Speaker 4 (31:11):
It will be TV one. Yeah, it's interesting, isn't it.
I guess the hung parliament, but we should reflect on
their vote next year because we see Coe Swarbrick, the
co leader of the Green Party, declared that she wanted
to beat the Finance Minister in a new Labor coalition,
although she says it'll be a Green lead coalition. So
(31:35):
that's the alternative we're going to be looking at.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Jamie Well, I'm updating the passport Barry. Mine expires actually
the end of next year, so if the election goes
the wrong way, I might just get out of the
country in time. Look, it's interesting. It's what Bill Clinton's
economic advisor. I keep forgetting his name. You can remind
me the guy who came up with the saying it's
(31:58):
all about the economy stupid and that's what it's about.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Yes, it is. And you know, for anybody really to
expect now that the polls are going to be glowing
for a government, even though prom promises were made before
they saw the full extent of the books and the
lead up to the two thousand and three election, nobody
should be surprised where they are at the moment. I mean,
(32:22):
if you think back, and I was the other day
when you reflect on polls the first year of the
long e Labor government with Roger Douglas. I mean people
went through hell in that first three years, and Roger
Douglas used to say short term pain for long term gain,
and they went to the eighty seven election goes it
overwhelmingly back into office. People should reflect on that because
(32:45):
there have been tough times before, there are tough times now.
And that's not to say that we shouldn't feel for
the people that are suffering at the moment, but I
think personally looking at the way things are going better
times around the corner next year.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Hey, well Winston, you got to hand it to him,
brilliant grandstanding over the high vers vest and the helmet.
I love one. Can I say that I shouldn't really
say that he's dead right?
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Well, you know the point that he made was what
is the point of me going on his death on
a train? I mean, it's not a demolition site, hopefully so.
I suppose if the trane did crash, against all odds,
they would find him easier, although if they look for
a pinstripe suit, I think he'd be very distinctive in
any train accident.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Well, o, Jen Prime, undescribable incompetence.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
Well, absolutely, this woman has always been over estimated in politics,
and my view that you know, she is very lucky
to be where she is. She was a minister in
the CRUs Hipkins government, don't forget, and here she is.
Frequent officers offered by Erica Stanford in the lead up
(34:03):
to the NCEA Changers, never replied initially, then finally replied,
when all the decisions have been made? Are so much
for consultation? And the call by Chris Hopkins in particular
former Education Minister, I might say, saying that you know
we want to have a consultative approach to these big decisions.
(34:23):
Well they were off with one. What did they do?
They turned their backs on it. And that says a
lot about a party that wants to go its own
way and bugger the rest of them.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Okay, Barry, let me be clear about this. It's a paraphraser,
Prime Minister. Does he get the optics wrong? Cuddling elbow?
Or am I just too old school?
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Well you are too old school. I mean these people,
these men have known each other for ten years, Jamie,
and I've given you the odd hug on the odd occasions.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
But we're family, Barry.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
But we're Southern boys too, and I'm a hugger. I've
got to say so, you know, I think exactly Chris
Luxen did what he should have done to an old mate.
And they knew each other outside of politics. They've been
pretty good mates over the years. What's wrong with our hag?
I mean, get your own house and order.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Well, it's me told off. Thanks past. I'll catch you
back on Friday, Jamie. There we go, ronan keating life
is a roller coaster does indeed, especially if you're in
the game of politics. I will come back to some
of your feedback. And Phil Duncan on the most important
farming months and the calendars years August and September. The rapper.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Don't even know where to begin.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Beside you, it is seven away from one. Irish music
for today Dawn meets on the menu for tomorrow is
this West Life? Yep, yep, West Life flying without Wings,
especially for the Green Party at on a slightly different
topic to do with co ops is at now time
(36:04):
this is a text to rationalize our two fertilizer cooperatives
into one. Now we have manco as competition. That's an
interesting point you raise.
Speaker 6 (36:14):
Text.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
The good thing about the fertilizer co ops is they're
competing against against one another. The ultimate benefactor is the
farmer or the customer. It's a bit different because you're
buying off them, whereas the meat companies are buying off you,
if you know what I mean. So I would be
in favor of leaving a balance and Ravenstown to scrap
(36:36):
it out because I think they keep each other very
honest and there is room in the market for outside players. Right,
We're going to wrap it with Phil Duncan and some
more of your feedback. Here's one coming in, Georgia Miller.
What a player. If she ain't the modern day female
equivalent of Richie McCaw, then old gohe says, Ted. I'm
with you, Ted, just leaning on the weather the welcome
(37:09):
back to the country. This is Bee, which I can't
blame it on the weather man because I've run myself
out of time. Such a lot of feedback coming in today.
We really do appreciate her. I won't blame it on
the weather man, Fell Duncan, but I will catch him tomorrow.
Other feedback coming in. You're right about updating your passport, Jamie.
(37:31):
Last one turn out the lights Stacy Wiker Great interview.
Jamie says, Kevin Mattha matter farmer, and then Mike is
suggesting maybe the carbon farming's doing us a favor because
if we'd hadn't had all the land gobbled up with
pine trees, we wouldn't we would have more meat and
(37:53):
the prices wouldn't be as good. Don't agree with you there, sorry, Mike,
because the problem or the good problem, we've got at
the the Americans will take every bit of meat, especially
the grinding beef that we can produce, and it's a
real shortage of lamb worldwide, So don't buy that. I'm
all for planting pine trees. Farmers can be carbon farmers,
just don't blanket plant the bloody things on productive pastoral land.
(38:18):
End of argument. Hats you tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
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