August 28, 2025 • 38 mins
Jamie Mackay talks to Chris Brandolino, Shane Jones, Emma Poole, Tim Dangen, Craig Wiggins, and Barry Soper.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Down down. Good afternoon, New Zealand. Welcome to the Country.
I'm Jamie mackay. The show is brought to you by
Brent Music. Today from Jane Ferguson, our online editor filling
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in for Michelle is having a much deserved day off
so we can critique her music. We're going to kick
off the show today because he was going to chat
to us at twelve, but he's a busy man. He's
got a power meeting there at Earth Sciences, New Zealand.
His name is Chris Brandolino, and I want to talk
to Chris if I can about NIA thirty five. This
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is this long range forecasting tool and it's about forecasting
out for thirty five days, right, so we're at the
end of August. Thirty five days gets us into October.
I call September the most important month on the farming calendar,
so I think this could be a useful tool for
you farmers out there. Shane Jones, the Minister of digging
(01:33):
it up and damming it up, has been playing Santa
Claus on the East Coast. We'll catch up with him
dishing out the dosh from the Regional Infrastructure Fund? Is
this just the Provincial Growth Fund? And Drag will ask him.
Today's Farmer Panel Amber Pool and Tim Danjean former Young
Farmers of the Year both dairy farming now Tim and
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Southland Emma in the Wykado Southland versus Wykato. That's Sunday
for the Shield Go Stags. What if they make young
next generation of farmers coming through? Do they want Fonterra
to divest itself of its consumer brands. We're going to
catch up with Craig Wiggy Wiggins, lean on a gate,
talk to a mate. He's a real he's a battler.
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He's a battler. He does great work for mental health
around the country. He's based in mid Canterbury and Barry
Soaper wrapping the week in politics, Jane or wandering here
for rural news. We'll do sports news for you as well.
But let's check it off with Chris Brandolino from newah
Now it was called NEEWA thirty five Chris, what do
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you call it now? Earth science is thirty five?
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Good afternoon, Oh, good afternoon, Jimmy, nice to chat with you. No,
I think we're going to call it something to the
effect of and Z sub n z S two s
or enzed thirty five basically to you know, because we're
not newa anymore. But I get the acronyms, so I'll
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have to look that up. So action on me is
to confirm the likely change and abbreviation because of our
name change. But look, call whatever you want. What it
is is a theme outlook for the next thirty five days.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Now.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Look, I know people, particularly farmers are probably thinking, right,
you guys can't get it right three days from now,
which is not really fair. But you can't get it
right free. How going to get it right thirty five
days from now? So this has been around for a
few years. We developed it with MPI, and it's actually
a blend of traditional weather modeling and AI. So it's
a blend of those two sort of disciplines or sciences,
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and we're what we're doing is we're predicting rainfall themes
at weekly chunks. So what you can do if you're
in front of your computer. Just type in Niwa for
now and to Nia thirty five. So Nia thirty five
the number three five into Uncle Google and you'll be
directed to where that's at. And what you'll see is
a few options. And basically you can look at the
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thirty five day chunk, or it can look at individual weeks,
and these themes tell us which weeks may be wetter
than usual, which may be drier than usual, or which
may be kind of near normal for the time of year.
And this is something we up. It's updated every afternoon,
so I would encourage people, you know, not just to
look at it once a week, then look at it
a week later, because it does change, so you want
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to look at it with some regularity to give a
sense of what's coming down the pike. Again, these themes
two weeks, three weeks, four weeks out and the theme
I can tell you and this wouldn't show it. This
is separate to that is wind. So we're going to
find wind man for the next probably few weeks, strong westerlies.
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These episodes of strong westerly winds, and that's going to
favor areas on the west of both islands for getting rain,
particularly the west of the South Island has been a
lot of rain. We've had a lot of east or
southeasterlies or north northeasterlies this winter, and that's going to change,
at least for the next few weeks, Jamie.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Nothing unusual though, that is a typical spring web, a
patent unsettled, changeable wendy.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
Yeah, very wendy. This weekend we could find and we're
gonna find with that, changeable days of chili temperatures. But
next week I think we'll find some pretty good changes.
We'll find temperatures warming up. So after a bit of
a cool snap this weekend, particularly for the South Island,
it warms up next week, particularly for the North Island,
and with those changes will come wind. I think the
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west of the South Island is likely to see a
wet September as we progress through spring. Now I'm speaking
out of school here, speaking out of turn, because on
Monday we're going to be sitting down and assembling our
spring outlook and we will be releasing that on Tuesday.
So I don't want to go too far out in
the horizon, but we still have La Nina emerging as
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a climate driver. So climate driver basically is who's going
to be influencing our weather from a climate and weather perspective,
And when we see this coming, it kind of sets
the stage for what weather events are more likely, kind
of loads the dice for certain outcomes, and those outcomes
will be eventually dryness for the South Island, particularly interior,
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Lower and western South Island. Again, this is longer term,
this is not September, and for the upper and eastern
North Island. It does increase the odds for big rainfall events.
But every Linina is different, Jamie, as we know, Look,
we know the average outcome of Li Nina, but no
Lininia's average, So there will be variability in differences. And
we'll get into that more perhaps when we talk next
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week about what we can expect for the spring season
as a whole.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
In the meantime, before you can figure out what the
acronym is, go to Uncle Google, as Chris said, and
type and knee with thirty five and see what the
rainfall and dryness either or might be for your region.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
Chris, thanks as always for your time.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
My pleasure, Jamie, and hey, happy end of winter. We
got through it, buddy, Spring comes on Monday. Can't wait
for it?
Speaker 6 (06:59):
No, I like see.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
That is the question does it come on Monday or
does it come at the spring equinox?
Speaker 5 (07:04):
You just a yes or now look, look I'm season.
I'm season non binary.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
We don't do that on the Country. There we go,
Chris Brandolino. You've got to be one or the other
on this show. One of that non binary stuff. Okay,
fourteen after twelve, excuse me, voices are disappearing on me.
I'll be glad to get out of winter. There's been
a few inter winter ills and chills around. Just got
a text through and I'm just trying to find that.
Speaker 6 (07:34):
Where is he? Neville Clark?
Speaker 4 (07:36):
You might remember we spoke to Neville Clark a couple
of weeks ago on the Country, one of the countries,
one of New Zealand's top livestock auctioneers. And of course
today is Dafford All Day collect and we had a
like a morning tea full of sugar.
Speaker 6 (07:53):
That's maybe why my voice is gone.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Here at work raising money for cancer, because cancer cancer.
Every family, we've all lost friends. I've lost some great
friends unfortunately the cancer recently. But anyhow so, how about
this for a story from Gisbon three hundred and seventy
seven sheep were donated, raising close to seventy thousand dollars.
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Seventy thousand dollars fifty lambs a pen of lambs fifty
and they sold for three hundred dollars each. Fifty times
three hundred. What's that fifteen grand?
Speaker 6 (08:30):
Is it? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (08:32):
I think it is from one farmer. What a wonderful
act of generosity, and it is being driven by the
an Z Bank, and we give the banks a bit
of stick on the show. I'm looking right across the
window at the an Z Bank. There was some halfwits
protesting against fossil fuels there a week or so ago.
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But you know, pat on the back when it's deserved.
Well done an Z. They had a daffodil cellar outside
their bank here in the center of the need in
this morning. So well done A and Z for getting
behind daffitil day.
Speaker 6 (09:06):
Up next, Shane Jones.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Here's the self titled Prince of the Province's Martoa. Shane
Jones enjoyed his company last Friday and tapoke. We'll come
back to that one, Shane Jones. But you have been
playing Santa Claus on the East coast.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Good afternoon, ho ho ho, Father Christmas has been down
to whide Orgumn Kisban. Now look mate, there's a lot
of good soil there, climate and working through the rift
fund with landowners helping them to embed some water storage
on the land. I mean, let's face it, in wide
all the biggest employers the freezing works and we need
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to basically boost the productivity of that land and takes
a bit of investment for water storage and create a
new line of exports, some new sort of remedies to
get rid of the unemployment bogie. Why not?
Speaker 6 (10:07):
Now?
Speaker 4 (10:07):
The rift fund that you were talking about is the
Regional Infrastructure Fund? Is this kind of like the provincial
Growth Fund and drag You remember the Provincial Growth Fund
shame we used to run around the country as Santa
Claus and handing out money to all sorts of wastes
and strays.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
I recall a certain group of South Islanders who raced
to the front of the queue to ensure that they
got their liqu of the cherry. So at the time,
no one was complaining. But of course as time has
gone on, different projects turnout and not quite the way
we originally envisaged, But the vast majority of them they
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served their purpose, and the Rift Fund, as I announced
yesterday in Gismon and in Widow, works with landowners, works
with councils, and it's got to focus on infrastructure because,
as you know, I believe that the great opportunity in
New Zealand is for more water, not just about red tape,
but growers, farmers and users of land. They need reliable
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access to water. And Lord knows that paws and enormous
quantities here in New Zealand. And it's just that the
government has been a bit cherry recently about unwriting some
of those projects, which is why I'm very happy to
say that they're both in the South Island and arguably
will be developed in Gisbon and wide Ore as well.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Well, you can't beat a dam. I love dams and
tall buildings. And adding to my list of loves Shane
Jones's four lane highways. Of course, you and I went
on one when we went out to Tapoki last friday.
I love the one from Auckland down to the Waikato region.
We need more of those, I reckon if we had
better mobile coverage in this country, better broadband and more
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four lane highways, that would be happy days we would
get the economy moving.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
What do you reckon?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Well, the best way to ensure that that's delivered as
to toy with changing the government, because my colleagues on
parliamentary colleagues on the other side of the house, they
had these heretical views that we don't need roads, which
suggest to me they've yet to catch up with a
discovery of the wheel. But no, we're going to have
a full lane highway going north as well. It'll be told.
(12:20):
I think a trick was missed when John Key refused
to toll the Golden Golden Triangle four lane highway down
and around Hamilton and Cambridge, and yet the one we've
got going into Northland sadly requires you to pay a
toll every time you go backwards, and Fords and I
suspect a similar thing. We'll be visited upon toad owner
as well.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Mind you, if you're going to get there more quickly
and more cheaply in terms of fuel and all that
sort of stuff, why not pay a toll se the
only way to find roading?
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yeah, I mean exactly, it's a trade off. We're either
going to continue to put taxes up and don't like
that idea. All we're going to go to an electronic
system of extending how we pay for diesel miles. At
the moment, that's got some trickiness to it, which is
why no doubt Chris Bishop is taking his time to
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perfect that system. But no, no, no, I improved highways,
improved roads, improved infrastructure. I mean, look, I don't want
to live in any pygmy economy.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Now, we're going to.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Keep the people of New Zealand comfortable and secure. Us
to grow our economy, and whether it's from mining, fishing,
growing things, farming, we should be messly expanding the size
of our economic footprint. That's why I break up every
morning hoping to achieve.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Well, you are the Minister of digging it up and
damning it up. Karen Williams from Irrigation New Zealand was
on the show yesterday and she was hinting that you
had some I mean, you've talked about a couple of
water storage projects, Shane Jones, but she was hinting that
you had something big. Come on, tell me you're going
to build a kick us dam somewhere in this country.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Hawk's Bay is uppermost in our mind. It's in the
fast track. We've allocated some initial money. There are naysayers,
however it's time for us look over the naysayers with
harsh economic reality, worth changing climate changing situations in terms
of the distribution of opportunity for turning Mother Nature's bounty
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into wealth. Is going to need water to do that. However,
it's going to go through the fast track. I can
tell you we have the opportunity to govern again. We'll
ensure that the Crown helps derip these water storage and
irrigation plans because we have got to exploit our natural advantages.
Ensure that it's not compromised by shrillness or hysteria to
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do with change.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Will you tell that to Chloe. And while you're talking
to Chloe, tell Julianne that you were going to build
some four lane highways. That'll get her excited. Hey, Shane Jones,
thanks for your time. Congratulations on a great evening and
too pooky last Friday, giving freely of your time for
a great cause.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
See you guys, bye.
Speaker 6 (14:59):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
And it is twenty five after twelve you are with
the country. Yes, very entertaining for those people who attended
that function. Now he's a lovely text that's just coming.
While Shane was chatting to us, Hi, Jamie, my wonderful
friends are volunteering for daffid All Day in Mournsville. She's
done the most amazing baking Ninish tarts laminating.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
I think that might be.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
A spelling correction that's gone wrong. I'm going to give
you the benefit of the doubt and go with Lamington's
there ninish tarts, Lamington's etc. To sell to raise funds
and a husband and friend of providing music with their
piano accordions. They totally sold out last year. Such an
awesome couple, fantastic effort. So if you're in Mournsville, pop
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down and support those wonderful people raising money for the
Cancer Society on daffod All Day. And to that farmer
up in the Gisbane area who donated fifty at three
hundred dollars, I think that's fifteen grand. I'll have to
check my maths on that one. What an act of generosity.
Good on you up next farmers Young Farmers former Young
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Farmers of the Year brother and sister Emma Paul Tim
Dangen next on the country.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
That's a pleason.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Oh and I forgot and music today is of course
from our online out of the Jane ferguson this is
the Doobies and this is when they brought in a
new guy called Michael McDonald. I think it's one of
the first ones that he was on What a Fool
Believes It was only coincidence that it coincided with Shane.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
On the radio. He's anything but a Fall.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Is two Pernology and anybody else What.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Today's Farmer panel. Brother and sister Emma Paul Tim Dangen.
Tim was the Young Farmer of the Year I f
MG Young Farmer of the Year in twenty twenty two.
Emma broke the grass ceiling in twenty twenty three. They're
both dairy farmers. Now Tim's ventured down to the rivi
era of the South Riverton and Emma's in the way Katto.
I'll start with you. Tim are down on Southland. I'm
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hearing reports of a brilliant start to carving.
Speaker 7 (17:20):
Oh, it was very fantastic, Jamie. Good afternoon. We've had
unbelievable weather, really so good enough to a really good
start here. Most farms are well over fifty cents through
their carving, so I think we'll take it there's a
bit of air weather coming though, so everyone keep your
eyes out for that. But suddenly, after a good start
here and talking to farmers that were down here last year,
it's chalk and cheese. So at least is this highest
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centerment out there at the moment, that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Well, I can tell you from bitter experience, many a
lambing beat done down on south and you won't get
through September unscathed. But that's part of the beauty of
farming in Southland. How's the whye Caado reach and treating you, Emma, Paul,
he's been.
Speaker 8 (17:56):
So kind to Jamie. Good afternoon and good to be here.
Still a start to spring, but yeah, the range is
coming in now in September is usually a whet one
here as well, so we'll wide and see. But it's
been bloody easy going at the moment.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Well, I'm pleased to hear that, and you must be.
You must have a spring and your step as dairy farmers,
Tim your share milking, Emma, you own some farms, Tim's
share milking with a view to buying some farms. You
must have a spring in your step when you're thinking
I'm getting out to milk these cows. First thing sparrows
fart in the morning. But I'm going to get ten
dollars plus for it, hopefully.
Speaker 8 (18:29):
Yeah, certainly makes it easier to get up, doesn't it, Jamie.
It's everything's looking so positive at the moment, Like Tim said,
sentiments pretty high among farmers. And yeah, and then we've
had another carrot dangled in front of our face.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Yes, well, let's talk about that carrot dangled in front
of your face. This is Fonterra selling its consumer brands
two dollars a share back in your pocket. I'd be
in boots on all for that one. Emma, you're not.
You're in two mines.
Speaker 8 (18:54):
Well, I'm in two minds, Jimmy. I'm a young person
at the start of my farming career Anto, so I'm
not at the end looking to cash up. And I've
got kids that their first word was trecked I, so
it's likely they're going to be here to play the
long game too, Jamie, and myself and my husband Chris
have always been firm believers that a diverse business is
a resilient business, and that's sort of how we've managed
to stay afloat when the payout changes. We rear calves
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and run an embryo business so that we're not solely
reliant on that milk income. It sort of seems that
if Fonterra sells us off, they might be less diverse.
Talking to people within Fonterra, it's sort of saying that's
not the case. That they're wanting to divest away from
the consumer brands and potentially invest a portion of that
money back into something else. Well, the question gets raised,
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Jennie Water, is there's something else and are we moving
away from an area of non performance. It might not
be the best performance, but at least we do know
how it performs to an area of unknown performance and
is that the right spending of our money? And I
just don't know, And I don't know if attending road
shows and getting more information will answer those questions, Jamie,
because I'm not sure if anyone really knows.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Mike Peterson, who's the chair of Scales, former president or
whatever of Beef and Lamb, New Zealand, former Special Agricultural
tradeing boy, said Fonterra is basically following what Scales is doing.
He was sort of tongue in cheek there, but he
said it's quite a good point not to be competing
with your business partners, So you're not You're going to
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supply those consumer brands with the goods, but you're not
going to be competing with them.
Speaker 8 (20:27):
Yeah, and that is a fair point, absolutely, And I
guess this is where the tear in my heart comes, Jamie,
is you know, we vote these people in to run
Fontier because we're too busy running our farms ourselves. So
we've got to have an element of trust and what
they're doing. And presumably they've looked at the numbers. But yeah,
like I say, a large portion of that money, some
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of it's coming back to the farmers, a lot of it,
But where does the rest of it go and what
are we investing it in? And it's such an unknown.
You know, they might try and correct the pharmaceuticals products
or high value proteins they're saying, but like I said,
we just don't know how that will perform at this
stage and what the return will be on that.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Well, we know you're going to get four point two
to two billion. Three point two is going back to
the farmers shareholders, Tim Dangin. That leaves about a billion
for Fonterra to play around, But what's your view on this?
You and Emma don't always agree.
Speaker 7 (21:18):
No, I'm probably a bit more in favor of it
than what Emma is. I suppose I have just as
many questions, if not more. What it ultimately comes down
to for me, though, Jamie is do we trust the
co op structure? Do we trust the current board and
the senior executive team that are obviously trying to take
us in this direction for a reason, And at the
moment I do have faith in them. So it's sort
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of what it boils down to me down to for me,
We're obviously never going to have as farmers as much
information in front of us, is what you'd think the
top top chiefs that Froonterira will have, So we've really
just got to rely on their guidance, and if they're
in favor for it, then they obviously think that it's
a strong long term strategy for the co op. My
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main concern really is just around social perception for it.
I don't think it's Fonterra or farmer's responsibility to make
sure that there is affordable food products for all kiwi's,
but all Kiwis have a voting right, Jamie and if
it ends up meaning that there are high priced commodities
on the shells and New Zealand supermarkets, then I think
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the general public will have something to say about that.
So we need to be very kind.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
Hope swear. Have you gone, Tim? Talk to me? Tim?
Are you still there, Emma?
Speaker 8 (22:32):
I'm still here.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
We might just have to battle on with you. Hey, Emma, Look,
it's not Buttergate's a bit of a beat up. It's
not the problem of New Zealand farmers that butter and
dairy products are expensive. I know that fonterra is probably
being picked on here, but for instance, I don't see
silver fern farms being picked on from the price of
meat or zesprey for the price of Kiwi fruit.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
No, you did right there, Jamie.
Speaker 8 (22:57):
And I guess it's the bigger the player you are,
the most like you get in, the more you've got
to answer to, isn't it. But yeah, you're right, it's
a New Zealand inc problem. Isn't it that we are
paying nine bucks for a block of butter. I still
buy the butter so I like baking and there's no
substitute for using butter. But yeah, it's definitely unaffordable for
so many kiwas and it's not really fear, I think.
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When we've got such a oversupply of brilliant products here
that we are just exporting.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
It's a bit of a shame we've lost him Danjin
a poor reception and the rivi era of the South
Riveton down there in Southland. But he's an adopted Stags
fan now, Emma. He's heading up your way on Sunday
for a shield challenge against the Whitecatow rugby side. You've
just taken it off Taranaki. It's all the dairy farming
provinces dominating the shield. No doubt you'll be backing your
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home side on.
Speaker 8 (23:46):
Have do, Jamie, especially when Southland supporting a reception like
that that they can't even keep their their farmers on
the line. So yeah, way Keto all the way and
we'll see how they get on.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
You got out voted in that one, Tim and I
versus you. It's two versus one go the Stags. Thanks
for your time. Sayal o to your brother, your long
lost brother.
Speaker 8 (24:02):
From me, Thanks Jamie.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Yes, apologies for Tim. I don't know where he went.
That's what I said to Shane Jones. We need for
the productivity of the nation. We should have like blanket coverage.
Eventually we'll get it because it'll all come from satellites
for mobile coverage and certainly when it comes to broadband.
One of the big handbrakes for productivity. We just need
to build some four lane highways and as I said,
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happy days, State Highway one that was a Jim Hopkins
thing State Highway one from Bluff to Cape Rianger, or
maybe not all the way to Cape Rianger, but certainly
define Erra needs to be four lanes up. Next, Jane
Ferguson and with Rural News will have sports news for
you as well. Welcome back to the Country, twenty one
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away from one daffod All Day.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
Thank you A and Z for supporting it.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Music courtesy ever Online editor Jane Ferguson, who's got off
a death bed to fill in for Michelle today. Gutsy effort, Jane,
just before I forget, because I'll get in trouble. We've
run a wonderful promotion all this week on the Country
with Stacy Waker, who is of course an ambassador for
beef and lamb New Zealand, and we have got the
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Rugby ready meat packs to give away. We haven't got
one to give away today, but we have got a
winner to announce. So the winner of our final meatpack
full of New Zealand beef and lamb from Beef and Lamb,
New Zealand.
Speaker 6 (25:31):
I'm following instructions here.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Jane, I've got to get that right is John Andrews
in Northland. John will be in touch with you and
we will send you the meatpack courtesy of Beef and Lamb,
New Zealand.
Speaker 6 (25:45):
Head to the head to.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Recipes dot co dot nz for tips on preparing all
the beef and lamb that's coming your way. John Andrews
in Northland. Jane Ferguson, you've chosen the music today the
riddle Nick Kurse. Sure you are a bit of a
child of the eighties.
Speaker 9 (26:02):
Yes, I am a child of the eighties. Also, I
knew that you wouldn't really want to hear Queens of
the Stone Age or the Deftones today.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
Wow, I'm kind of middle of the road top forty
sort of stuff. So no, we don't go to extreme.
I have to temper poor old Michelle's music taste. They'll
close the bogue and I just have to calm it
a weave it. We're we're not non binary here, I said,
we don't do that on the country, but we're kind
of middle of the road. Let's see what you've got
for rural news. I gota we sting to play the.
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Speaker 9 (26:38):
In rural news. Rabo Researcher's annual Global Dairy Top twenty
report reveals a year of subtle shifts, with eight companies
switching places with each other in the Top twenty list.
The report, which analyzes the financial performance of the world's
leading dairy companies, found the combined turnover of the global
dairy Top twenty and twenty twenty four increased by zero
(26:58):
point six percent in US dollar terms. France's Lactalise retained
and widened its lead as the largest.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
That was very good.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
I asked, did you did you look up on it
that I've been calling it?
Speaker 9 (27:09):
I asked co pilot, I asked it, how do you say?
Speaker 6 (27:13):
How do you say it?
Speaker 9 (27:13):
Again?
Speaker 4 (27:13):
Lactalise, even with a wee bit of French, has.
Speaker 9 (27:17):
Been a wee bit French. If you're of English speaking persuasion,
it's lactalise. But if you want to be a bit
fancy's lactalise.
Speaker 6 (27:25):
Well done.
Speaker 9 (27:25):
Thanks anyway. That company retained and widened its lead as
the largest global dairy company, with the top five rounded
out by Switzerland's Nestle, the US Dairy Farmers of America,
France's Denon and China's Yearly. Denmark's Ala moved up to sixth,
pushing New Zealand's Fonterra down to seventh. Looking further ahead,
(27:46):
RABA Research says they expect only about half the companies
listed to maintain their positions in twenty twenty six, with
significant merger and acquisition activity on the horizon.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
There you go, Jane Ferguson an excellent I'm doing sports news,
It won't be an excellent read. That was an excellent
read of rural news with a bit of French inflection.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
Well done, sports with.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
An AFCO Kiwi to the bone.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Since nineteen oh four, the prospect of playing the British
and Irish Lions has played a role in to Mighty
Williams signing long term with New Zealand Rugby the All
Blacks prop has confirmed or committed? Should I say through
to the twenty twenty nine season when the Lions returned
to our shawls. How good is that going to be?
And Silver Ferns. Former Silver Ferns shooter Aleiah Dunn has
(28:33):
re signed with the Southern Steel for the A and
Z Premiership in twenty twenty six. Dun debooed for the
franchise as a teenager way back in twenty seventeen before
stints with the Central Pulse and Mainland Tactics. That is
your sports news. Up next, Craig Wiggy Wiggins, lean on
a gate, talk to a mate, nun many then.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Where I'm going to stay.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Welcome back to the country. Just getting myself organized. It's
thirteen away from one. Thank you Brandt. Actually I got
the name of the farmer from Gisbooe who donated the lambs.
I don't know if I'd read it out, he mightn't
want me to talk about it. Fifteen thousand dollars to
Nate Daffodil Day. What a great effort. Here's another champion
for the rural sector, Craig Wiggy Wiggins. And just before
(29:28):
I go to him, because he's the guy behind, lean
on a gate, talk to a mate. It ties in
with what farm Strong is doing around mental health and
farm Strong is all about making your well being a
priority in a mentally and physically demanding job that's farming, obviously,
especially at this time of the year. To find out
more about the daily habits and thinking strategies that increase
(29:52):
wellbeing and lower stress, head to the farm Strong website.
This weekend you can check out the five Ways to
Wellbeing farmstrong dot co dot and zed to Live well
and Farm Well. Now Craig Wiggy Wiggins joins us out
of mid Canterbury. There's your favor there, Wiggy. I think
I've got you to wear. You're doing a great job.
Do you work in with Farmstrong at all?
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Yeah, we do, mate, but probably what we're doing, like
Farmstrong do a great job with wellness and well being,
we're actually doing something pretty incredible with strong people make
strong communities and how you can connect with people and
reach out to them when they are in need. And
especially the rural service industries. You know, our stock agents agronomous,
even the lady at the front of the desk and
(30:36):
the rural schools can tell when the clients and colleagues
aren't trucking too well, and how do they actually have
those conversations with them and where do they go for help?
And so that's kind of where we've been looking at.
And for the last four years Slade McFarlane and I
have been on the road doing this work and we've
been to some amazing places and clubs. New Zealand have
had us in fourteen or fifteen different venues this year
(30:58):
and what the people are telling us, we need to
know how to actually look after our own people and
so blessed you know, there's a couple of grown men
crying the other day in the boardroom at Mates in
Construction when they agreed to come in to help out
with their training program into rural New Zealand. So lean
on the gate and Mates and Construction have a memorandum
(31:20):
of understanding where we will be able to go into
a community and actually train people to connect with those
people that are in need, have case management and O
eight hundred numbers support behind them, and also write through
the suicide assist trained eventually for those that really want
to take that step into this realm and it's a
lot a one stop shop. We will revisit those connectors
(31:41):
and we look after them in the future to see
what they're saying, see what they need support with and
help them too. So this is a really big thing
for mental health and wellbeing and it shifts the gate
way back up off the edge of the cloth. If
we can increase our communities knowledge, awareness and connectivity.
Speaker 6 (31:58):
Well good on you, Wigi.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
And it's been a week for suicide here in New Zealand.
We know that rural folk are farmers, are one and
a half times more likely to commit suicide, tragic as
that sounds as urban folk. And then I know you're
working with Slade McFarlane with the construction industry. They've got
terrible rates there, not good stats at all. And the
construction industry, as we know right at the moment the
(32:21):
New Zealand is going through tough times.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
One hundred percent. And you know, if you look at construction,
I think you know I've been able to open the
eyes to mates and construction as to what's the out
you have been constructed in rural New Zealand. Even if
you look at fencing contractors, et cetera, which I'm the
patron for, they they've been really supportive of what we're
doing because they believe in it too. And you know
Slaves had his own journeys through mental health and wellbeing
and him and I have been working really hard. We
(32:47):
know that we need this, and even Wayne Langford said
the other day in the podcast, you know the time
for talking about it and having guest speakers is probably over.
We actually need to move to the next phase, which
is actually improving our own well being in strength and
communities and that's what we're offering. And we're going to
set up a pilot, a launch here in Eshburton in
(33:08):
October where I'm going to knock on some doors and
get some representatives from companies and individual people can come
along as well and actually hold that first training. Eshburton,
Mid Canterbury has quite shocking stats and around mental health.
And then we'll roll it out to the rest of
the community.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
Yeah sorry, we go just on Mid Canterbury where you're
based house the season trading you.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
It's a beautiful day here today. I mean we've had
a really really wet winter. It's probably been one of
the wettest windows we've had for a long time. But
by the looks of the two carves that we just
pulled out this morning. I mean they've done really well inside.
But yeah it's a beautiful day to day, thank goodness.
But we've had the personal wises too, so that could
dry things out.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
Yeah, okay, good on you keep up the great work
mates and construction with Slade McFarlane and lean on a
gate talk to a mate mental health, mental health on this.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
It's well done, thanks Jamie, thank you.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
Yeah, there we go, Craig wiggy wigans downhearted. If you
are a bit downhearted, remember a problem shared is a
problem halved up next to Barry Sober to at the
Country and the Week.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Ywn hard, it's not week where I'm going to stay.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Welcome back to the Country, wrapping today and the Week,
Barry Sober, political correspondent. Downhearted bears, you're a bit downhearted.
You've lost one of your great mates, John Barnett. And
there was a great story about him this week. Eighty
years of age. What a legend in New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Yes he was. And it's incredible to think, Jamie, a
week ago before he died, a week before he died,
on the Sunday he had an eightieth birthday party and
we're all there celebrating his eighties. He gave a great speech,
and wife, who is a Court of Appeal judge, she
gave a lovely speech as well. And then I saw
him the following Sunday. I was out for a walk,
(35:07):
ran into John, had a long chat to him. He
died that night. And you know, it's unbelievable when you
I'll tell you what it does do, Jamie. It brings
home your own mortality when you see somebody that seemed,
you know, fine in terms of health. And we talked
about that when I saw him last and he was
(35:28):
dead just a few hours.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
Later, Especially when you're past the halfway point like you
and I are.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Well, that's right, Jomien. I couldn't believe it that Barney
came round to my house a couple of years ago
and said to me, our bass I got something to
tell you, and I said, what's that, Barney? He said,
I'm getting married and I said, for god, say you
seventy eight mate. He had never been married before, and
you know, his first marriage. So it was a tragedy
(35:54):
not just for the country losing somebody as talented as
he is because he was still working, but for his
lovely wife Sarah.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
Yeah, once for Warry as well. Right, what a legacy
he leaves behind? Well, what about Nikola Willis? Will she
leave behind a legacy? Is one of our great finance ministers.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Well, you know, I've got I take my hat off
to her. I know she's been criticized in some quarters.
I might say that quarter is Mike Hosking for her
work on the supermarket. I think she's done a sterling
job here. They had requests for information that was fared
through the twenty four requests came through with the big
(36:31):
players internationally. But a lot of people are interested in
opening supermarkets if you believe what the reports are telling us,
and you know, competition is what brings down prices. Even
Costco has met with Nikola Willis prior to this announcement
and said, look, it wants to open in several centers
(36:52):
in the country. It's open here in west Auckland and
you know if they roll out across the country. I
think it's a great move because she's she's done. Essentially,
Jamie has removed all the red tape and welcomed any
grocery competitor in this country.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
I will give a credit her interview with the Hosk.
She wasn't going to be talked down by him. She
talked over him.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
Yes, I thought, I thought you did Extrawdin really well
because she's got a conviction on this one, and you know,
and she's done put a lot of work into it,
and you know, I think this one hopefully will be
a fruit.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
Barry you and I. I'm a Riversdale boy, you're a
Gore boy, both born and Gore, both educated in Gore
Heartland Southland. Southland's got a Shield challenge on Sunday against
White Kado. I waited fifty years from the year I
was born to the year I was fifty for us
to win the Shield Berry and it was so good
(37:48):
in two thousand and nine.
Speaker 6 (37:49):
How good would it be.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
I've got fifteen seconds left if we could take it
home on Sunday, fantastic.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
I'll be tuned in and I'll be right with the Maroons.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
Yeah, got on the Stags. Berry's that's over there, wrapping
the show for today. Thanks for all your feedback. Now
I'm having a beer with Damian O'Connor tonight and Dunedin
and hopefully I'll have him on the show on Monday.
Talking about Molesworth. Lots to talk about there. Until then,
take care, I'm out of here.
Speaker 6 (38:18):
Go the Stags.
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Down down. Good afternoon, New Zealand. Welcome to the Country.
I'm Jamie mackay. The show is brought to you by
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in for Michelle is having a much deserved day off
so we can critique her music. We're going to kick
off the show today because he was going to chat
to us at twelve, but he's a busy man. He's
got a power meeting there at Earth Sciences, New Zealand.
His name is Chris Brandolino, and I want to talk
to Chris if I can about NIA thirty five. This
(01:11):
is this long range forecasting tool and it's about forecasting
out for thirty five days, right, so we're at the
end of August. Thirty five days gets us into October.
I call September the most important month on the farming calendar,
so I think this could be a useful tool for
you farmers out there. Shane Jones, the Minister of digging
(01:33):
it up and damming it up, has been playing Santa
Claus on the East Coast. We'll catch up with him
dishing out the dosh from the Regional Infrastructure Fund? Is
this just the Provincial Growth Fund? And Drag will ask him.
Today's Farmer Panel Amber Pool and Tim Danjean former Young
Farmers of the Year both dairy farming now Tim and
(01:54):
Southland Emma in the Wykado Southland versus Wykato. That's Sunday
for the Shield Go Stags. What if they make young
next generation of farmers coming through? Do they want Fonterra
to divest itself of its consumer brands. We're going to
catch up with Craig Wiggy Wiggins, lean on a gate,
talk to a mate. He's a real he's a battler.
(02:16):
He's a battler. He does great work for mental health
around the country. He's based in mid Canterbury and Barry
Soaper wrapping the week in politics, Jane or wandering here
for rural news. We'll do sports news for you as well.
But let's check it off with Chris Brandolino from newah
Now it was called NEEWA thirty five Chris, what do
(02:37):
you call it now? Earth science is thirty five?
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Good afternoon, Oh, good afternoon, Jimmy, nice to chat with you. No,
I think we're going to call it something to the
effect of and Z sub n z S two s
or enzed thirty five basically to you know, because we're
not newa anymore. But I get the acronyms, so I'll
(03:01):
have to look that up. So action on me is
to confirm the likely change and abbreviation because of our
name change. But look, call whatever you want. What it
is is a theme outlook for the next thirty five days.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Now.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Look, I know people, particularly farmers are probably thinking, right,
you guys can't get it right three days from now,
which is not really fair. But you can't get it
right free. How going to get it right thirty five
days from now? So this has been around for a
few years. We developed it with MPI, and it's actually
a blend of traditional weather modeling and AI. So it's
a blend of those two sort of disciplines or sciences,
(03:37):
and we're what we're doing is we're predicting rainfall themes
at weekly chunks. So what you can do if you're
in front of your computer. Just type in Niwa for
now and to Nia thirty five. So Nia thirty five
the number three five into Uncle Google and you'll be
directed to where that's at. And what you'll see is
a few options. And basically you can look at the
(03:59):
thirty five day chunk, or it can look at individual weeks,
and these themes tell us which weeks may be wetter
than usual, which may be drier than usual, or which
may be kind of near normal for the time of year.
And this is something we up. It's updated every afternoon,
so I would encourage people, you know, not just to
look at it once a week, then look at it
a week later, because it does change, so you want
(04:21):
to look at it with some regularity to give a
sense of what's coming down the pike. Again, these themes
two weeks, three weeks, four weeks out and the theme
I can tell you and this wouldn't show it. This
is separate to that is wind. So we're going to
find wind man for the next probably few weeks, strong westerlies.
(04:41):
These episodes of strong westerly winds, and that's going to
favor areas on the west of both islands for getting rain,
particularly the west of the South Island has been a
lot of rain. We've had a lot of east or
southeasterlies or north northeasterlies this winter, and that's going to change,
at least for the next few weeks, Jamie.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Nothing unusual though, that is a typical spring web, a
patent unsettled, changeable wendy.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
Yeah, very wendy. This weekend we could find and we're
gonna find with that, changeable days of chili temperatures. But
next week I think we'll find some pretty good changes.
We'll find temperatures warming up. So after a bit of
a cool snap this weekend, particularly for the South Island,
it warms up next week, particularly for the North Island,
and with those changes will come wind. I think the
(05:27):
west of the South Island is likely to see a
wet September as we progress through spring. Now I'm speaking
out of school here, speaking out of turn, because on
Monday we're going to be sitting down and assembling our
spring outlook and we will be releasing that on Tuesday.
So I don't want to go too far out in
the horizon, but we still have La Nina emerging as
(05:49):
a climate driver. So climate driver basically is who's going
to be influencing our weather from a climate and weather perspective,
And when we see this coming, it kind of sets
the stage for what weather events are more likely, kind
of loads the dice for certain outcomes, and those outcomes
will be eventually dryness for the South Island, particularly interior,
(06:11):
Lower and western South Island. Again, this is longer term,
this is not September, and for the upper and eastern
North Island. It does increase the odds for big rainfall events.
But every Linina is different, Jamie, as we know, Look,
we know the average outcome of Li Nina, but no
Lininia's average, So there will be variability in differences. And
we'll get into that more perhaps when we talk next
(06:33):
week about what we can expect for the spring season
as a whole.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
In the meantime, before you can figure out what the
acronym is, go to Uncle Google, as Chris said, and
type and knee with thirty five and see what the
rainfall and dryness either or might be for your region.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
Chris, thanks as always for your time.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
My pleasure, Jamie, and hey, happy end of winter. We
got through it, buddy, Spring comes on Monday. Can't wait
for it?
Speaker 6 (06:59):
No, I like see.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
That is the question does it come on Monday or
does it come at the spring equinox?
Speaker 5 (07:04):
You just a yes or now look, look I'm season.
I'm season non binary.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
We don't do that on the Country. There we go,
Chris Brandolino. You've got to be one or the other
on this show. One of that non binary stuff. Okay,
fourteen after twelve, excuse me, voices are disappearing on me.
I'll be glad to get out of winter. There's been
a few inter winter ills and chills around. Just got
a text through and I'm just trying to find that.
Speaker 6 (07:34):
Where is he? Neville Clark?
Speaker 4 (07:36):
You might remember we spoke to Neville Clark a couple
of weeks ago on the Country, one of the countries,
one of New Zealand's top livestock auctioneers. And of course
today is Dafford All Day collect and we had a
like a morning tea full of sugar.
Speaker 6 (07:53):
That's maybe why my voice is gone.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Here at work raising money for cancer, because cancer cancer.
Every family, we've all lost friends. I've lost some great
friends unfortunately the cancer recently. But anyhow so, how about
this for a story from Gisbon three hundred and seventy
seven sheep were donated, raising close to seventy thousand dollars.
(08:17):
Seventy thousand dollars fifty lambs a pen of lambs fifty
and they sold for three hundred dollars each. Fifty times
three hundred. What's that fifteen grand?
Speaker 6 (08:30):
Is it? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (08:32):
I think it is from one farmer. What a wonderful
act of generosity, and it is being driven by the
an Z Bank, and we give the banks a bit
of stick on the show. I'm looking right across the
window at the an Z Bank. There was some halfwits
protesting against fossil fuels there a week or so ago.
(08:52):
But you know, pat on the back when it's deserved.
Well done an Z. They had a daffodil cellar outside
their bank here in the center of the need in
this morning. So well done A and Z for getting
behind daffitil day.
Speaker 6 (09:06):
Up next, Shane Jones.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Here's the self titled Prince of the Province's Martoa. Shane
Jones enjoyed his company last Friday and tapoke. We'll come
back to that one, Shane Jones. But you have been
playing Santa Claus on the East coast.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Good afternoon, ho ho ho, Father Christmas has been down
to whide Orgumn Kisban. Now look mate, there's a lot
of good soil there, climate and working through the rift
fund with landowners helping them to embed some water storage
on the land. I mean, let's face it, in wide
all the biggest employers the freezing works and we need
(09:51):
to basically boost the productivity of that land and takes
a bit of investment for water storage and create a
new line of exports, some new sort of remedies to
get rid of the unemployment bogie. Why not?
Speaker 6 (10:07):
Now?
Speaker 4 (10:07):
The rift fund that you were talking about is the
Regional Infrastructure Fund? Is this kind of like the provincial
Growth Fund and drag You remember the Provincial Growth Fund
shame we used to run around the country as Santa
Claus and handing out money to all sorts of wastes
and strays.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
I recall a certain group of South Islanders who raced
to the front of the queue to ensure that they
got their liqu of the cherry. So at the time,
no one was complaining. But of course as time has
gone on, different projects turnout and not quite the way
we originally envisaged, But the vast majority of them they
(10:46):
served their purpose, and the Rift Fund, as I announced
yesterday in Gismon and in Widow, works with landowners, works
with councils, and it's got to focus on infrastructure because,
as you know, I believe that the great opportunity in
New Zealand is for more water, not just about red tape,
but growers, farmers and users of land. They need reliable
(11:09):
access to water. And Lord knows that paws and enormous
quantities here in New Zealand. And it's just that the
government has been a bit cherry recently about unwriting some
of those projects, which is why I'm very happy to
say that they're both in the South Island and arguably
will be developed in Gisbon and wide Ore as well.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Well, you can't beat a dam. I love dams and
tall buildings. And adding to my list of loves Shane
Jones's four lane highways. Of course, you and I went
on one when we went out to Tapoki last friday.
I love the one from Auckland down to the Waikato region.
We need more of those, I reckon if we had
better mobile coverage in this country, better broadband and more
(11:52):
four lane highways, that would be happy days we would
get the economy moving.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
What do you reckon?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Well, the best way to ensure that that's delivered as
to toy with changing the government, because my colleagues on
parliamentary colleagues on the other side of the house, they
had these heretical views that we don't need roads, which
suggest to me they've yet to catch up with a
discovery of the wheel. But no, we're going to have
a full lane highway going north as well. It'll be told.
(12:20):
I think a trick was missed when John Key refused
to toll the Golden Golden Triangle four lane highway down
and around Hamilton and Cambridge, and yet the one we've
got going into Northland sadly requires you to pay a
toll every time you go backwards, and Fords and I
suspect a similar thing. We'll be visited upon toad owner
as well.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Mind you, if you're going to get there more quickly
and more cheaply in terms of fuel and all that
sort of stuff, why not pay a toll se the
only way to find roading?
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yeah, I mean exactly, it's a trade off. We're either
going to continue to put taxes up and don't like
that idea. All we're going to go to an electronic
system of extending how we pay for diesel miles. At
the moment, that's got some trickiness to it, which is
why no doubt Chris Bishop is taking his time to
(13:10):
perfect that system. But no, no, no, I improved highways,
improved roads, improved infrastructure. I mean, look, I don't want
to live in any pygmy economy.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Now, we're going to.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Keep the people of New Zealand comfortable and secure. Us
to grow our economy, and whether it's from mining, fishing,
growing things, farming, we should be messly expanding the size
of our economic footprint. That's why I break up every
morning hoping to achieve.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Well, you are the Minister of digging it up and
damning it up. Karen Williams from Irrigation New Zealand was
on the show yesterday and she was hinting that you
had some I mean, you've talked about a couple of
water storage projects, Shane Jones, but she was hinting that
you had something big. Come on, tell me you're going
to build a kick us dam somewhere in this country.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Hawk's Bay is uppermost in our mind. It's in the
fast track. We've allocated some initial money. There are naysayers,
however it's time for us look over the naysayers with
harsh economic reality, worth changing climate changing situations in terms
of the distribution of opportunity for turning Mother Nature's bounty
(14:18):
into wealth. Is going to need water to do that. However,
it's going to go through the fast track. I can
tell you we have the opportunity to govern again. We'll
ensure that the Crown helps derip these water storage and
irrigation plans because we have got to exploit our natural advantages.
Ensure that it's not compromised by shrillness or hysteria to
(14:39):
do with change.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Will you tell that to Chloe. And while you're talking
to Chloe, tell Julianne that you were going to build
some four lane highways. That'll get her excited. Hey, Shane Jones,
thanks for your time. Congratulations on a great evening and
too pooky last Friday, giving freely of your time for
a great cause.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
See you guys, bye.
Speaker 6 (14:59):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
And it is twenty five after twelve you are with
the country. Yes, very entertaining for those people who attended
that function. Now he's a lovely text that's just coming.
While Shane was chatting to us, Hi, Jamie, my wonderful
friends are volunteering for daffid All Day in Mournsville. She's
done the most amazing baking Ninish tarts laminating.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
I think that might be.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
A spelling correction that's gone wrong. I'm going to give
you the benefit of the doubt and go with Lamington's
there ninish tarts, Lamington's etc. To sell to raise funds
and a husband and friend of providing music with their
piano accordions. They totally sold out last year. Such an
awesome couple, fantastic effort. So if you're in Mournsville, pop
(15:49):
down and support those wonderful people raising money for the
Cancer Society on daffod All Day. And to that farmer
up in the Gisbane area who donated fifty at three
hundred dollars, I think that's fifteen grand. I'll have to
check my maths on that one. What an act of generosity.
Good on you up next farmers Young Farmers former Young
(16:12):
Farmers of the Year brother and sister Emma Paul Tim
Dangen next on the country.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
That's a pleason.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Oh and I forgot and music today is of course
from our online out of the Jane ferguson this is
the Doobies and this is when they brought in a
new guy called Michael McDonald. I think it's one of
the first ones that he was on What a Fool
Believes It was only coincidence that it coincided with Shane.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
On the radio. He's anything but a Fall.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Is two Pernology and anybody else What.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Today's Farmer panel. Brother and sister Emma Paul Tim Dangen.
Tim was the Young Farmer of the Year I f
MG Young Farmer of the Year in twenty twenty two.
Emma broke the grass ceiling in twenty twenty three. They're
both dairy farmers. Now Tim's ventured down to the rivi
era of the South Riverton and Emma's in the way Katto.
I'll start with you. Tim are down on Southland. I'm
(17:17):
hearing reports of a brilliant start to carving.
Speaker 7 (17:20):
Oh, it was very fantastic, Jamie. Good afternoon. We've had
unbelievable weather, really so good enough to a really good
start here. Most farms are well over fifty cents through
their carving, so I think we'll take it there's a
bit of air weather coming though, so everyone keep your
eyes out for that. But suddenly, after a good start
here and talking to farmers that were down here last year,
it's chalk and cheese. So at least is this highest
(17:42):
centerment out there at the moment, that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Well, I can tell you from bitter experience, many a
lambing beat done down on south and you won't get
through September unscathed. But that's part of the beauty of
farming in Southland. How's the whye Caado reach and treating you, Emma, Paul,
he's been.
Speaker 8 (17:56):
So kind to Jamie. Good afternoon and good to be here.
Still a start to spring, but yeah, the range is
coming in now in September is usually a whet one
here as well, so we'll wide and see. But it's
been bloody easy going at the moment.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Well, I'm pleased to hear that, and you must be.
You must have a spring and your step as dairy farmers,
Tim your share milking, Emma, you own some farms, Tim's
share milking with a view to buying some farms. You
must have a spring in your step when you're thinking
I'm getting out to milk these cows. First thing sparrows
fart in the morning. But I'm going to get ten
dollars plus for it, hopefully.
Speaker 8 (18:29):
Yeah, certainly makes it easier to get up, doesn't it, Jamie.
It's everything's looking so positive at the moment, Like Tim said,
sentiments pretty high among farmers. And yeah, and then we've
had another carrot dangled in front of our face.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Yes, well, let's talk about that carrot dangled in front
of your face. This is Fonterra selling its consumer brands
two dollars a share back in your pocket. I'd be
in boots on all for that one. Emma, you're not.
You're in two mines.
Speaker 8 (18:54):
Well, I'm in two minds, Jimmy. I'm a young person
at the start of my farming career Anto, so I'm
not at the end looking to cash up. And I've
got kids that their first word was trecked I, so
it's likely they're going to be here to play the
long game too, Jamie, and myself and my husband Chris
have always been firm believers that a diverse business is
a resilient business, and that's sort of how we've managed
to stay afloat when the payout changes. We rear calves
(19:17):
and run an embryo business so that we're not solely
reliant on that milk income. It sort of seems that
if Fonterra sells us off, they might be less diverse.
Talking to people within Fonterra, it's sort of saying that's
not the case. That they're wanting to divest away from
the consumer brands and potentially invest a portion of that
money back into something else. Well, the question gets raised,
(19:39):
Jennie Water, is there's something else and are we moving
away from an area of non performance. It might not
be the best performance, but at least we do know
how it performs to an area of unknown performance and
is that the right spending of our money? And I
just don't know, And I don't know if attending road
shows and getting more information will answer those questions, Jamie,
because I'm not sure if anyone really knows.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Mike Peterson, who's the chair of Scales, former president or
whatever of Beef and Lamb, New Zealand, former Special Agricultural
tradeing boy, said Fonterra is basically following what Scales is doing.
He was sort of tongue in cheek there, but he
said it's quite a good point not to be competing
with your business partners, So you're not You're going to
(20:22):
supply those consumer brands with the goods, but you're not
going to be competing with them.
Speaker 8 (20:27):
Yeah, and that is a fair point, absolutely, And I
guess this is where the tear in my heart comes, Jamie,
is you know, we vote these people in to run
Fontier because we're too busy running our farms ourselves. So
we've got to have an element of trust and what
they're doing. And presumably they've looked at the numbers. But yeah,
like I say, a large portion of that money, some
(20:48):
of it's coming back to the farmers, a lot of it,
But where does the rest of it go and what
are we investing it in? And it's such an unknown.
You know, they might try and correct the pharmaceuticals products
or high value proteins they're saying, but like I said,
we just don't know how that will perform at this
stage and what the return will be on that.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Well, we know you're going to get four point two
to two billion. Three point two is going back to
the farmers shareholders, Tim Dangin. That leaves about a billion
for Fonterra to play around, But what's your view on this?
You and Emma don't always agree.
Speaker 7 (21:18):
No, I'm probably a bit more in favor of it
than what Emma is. I suppose I have just as
many questions, if not more. What it ultimately comes down
to for me, though, Jamie is do we trust the
co op structure? Do we trust the current board and
the senior executive team that are obviously trying to take
us in this direction for a reason, And at the
moment I do have faith in them. So it's sort
(21:40):
of what it boils down to me down to for me,
We're obviously never going to have as farmers as much
information in front of us, is what you'd think the
top top chiefs that Froonterira will have, So we've really
just got to rely on their guidance, and if they're
in favor for it, then they obviously think that it's
a strong long term strategy for the co op. My
(22:02):
main concern really is just around social perception for it.
I don't think it's Fonterra or farmer's responsibility to make
sure that there is affordable food products for all kiwi's,
but all Kiwis have a voting right, Jamie and if
it ends up meaning that there are high priced commodities
on the shells and New Zealand supermarkets, then I think
(22:23):
the general public will have something to say about that.
So we need to be very kind.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
Hope swear. Have you gone, Tim? Talk to me? Tim?
Are you still there, Emma?
Speaker 8 (22:32):
I'm still here.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
We might just have to battle on with you. Hey, Emma, Look,
it's not Buttergate's a bit of a beat up. It's
not the problem of New Zealand farmers that butter and
dairy products are expensive. I know that fonterra is probably
being picked on here, but for instance, I don't see
silver fern farms being picked on from the price of
meat or zesprey for the price of Kiwi fruit.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
No, you did right there, Jamie.
Speaker 8 (22:57):
And I guess it's the bigger the player you are,
the most like you get in, the more you've got
to answer to, isn't it. But yeah, you're right, it's
a New Zealand inc problem. Isn't it that we are
paying nine bucks for a block of butter. I still
buy the butter so I like baking and there's no
substitute for using butter. But yeah, it's definitely unaffordable for
so many kiwas and it's not really fear, I think.
(23:17):
When we've got such a oversupply of brilliant products here
that we are just exporting.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
It's a bit of a shame we've lost him Danjin
a poor reception and the rivi era of the South
Riveton down there in Southland. But he's an adopted Stags
fan now, Emma. He's heading up your way on Sunday
for a shield challenge against the Whitecatow rugby side. You've
just taken it off Taranaki. It's all the dairy farming
provinces dominating the shield. No doubt you'll be backing your
(23:44):
home side on.
Speaker 8 (23:46):
Have do, Jamie, especially when Southland supporting a reception like
that that they can't even keep their their farmers on
the line. So yeah, way Keto all the way and
we'll see how they get on.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
You got out voted in that one, Tim and I
versus you. It's two versus one go the Stags. Thanks
for your time. Sayal o to your brother, your long
lost brother.
Speaker 8 (24:02):
From me, Thanks Jamie.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Yes, apologies for Tim. I don't know where he went.
That's what I said to Shane Jones. We need for
the productivity of the nation. We should have like blanket coverage.
Eventually we'll get it because it'll all come from satellites
for mobile coverage and certainly when it comes to broadband.
One of the big handbrakes for productivity. We just need
to build some four lane highways and as I said,
(24:26):
happy days, State Highway one that was a Jim Hopkins
thing State Highway one from Bluff to Cape Rianger, or
maybe not all the way to Cape Rianger, but certainly
define Erra needs to be four lanes up. Next, Jane
Ferguson and with Rural News will have sports news for
you as well. Welcome back to the Country, twenty one
(24:53):
away from one daffod All Day.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
Thank you A and Z for supporting it.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Music courtesy ever Online editor Jane Ferguson, who's got off
a death bed to fill in for Michelle today. Gutsy effort, Jane,
just before I forget, because I'll get in trouble. We've
run a wonderful promotion all this week on the Country
with Stacy Waker, who is of course an ambassador for
beef and lamb New Zealand, and we have got the
(25:18):
Rugby ready meat packs to give away. We haven't got
one to give away today, but we have got a
winner to announce. So the winner of our final meatpack
full of New Zealand beef and lamb from Beef and Lamb,
New Zealand.
Speaker 6 (25:31):
I'm following instructions here.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Jane, I've got to get that right is John Andrews
in Northland. John will be in touch with you and
we will send you the meatpack courtesy of Beef and Lamb,
New Zealand.
Speaker 6 (25:45):
Head to the head to.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Recipes dot co dot nz for tips on preparing all
the beef and lamb that's coming your way. John Andrews
in Northland. Jane Ferguson, you've chosen the music today the
riddle Nick Kurse. Sure you are a bit of a
child of the eighties.
Speaker 9 (26:02):
Yes, I am a child of the eighties. Also, I
knew that you wouldn't really want to hear Queens of
the Stone Age or the Deftones today.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
Wow, I'm kind of middle of the road top forty
sort of stuff. So no, we don't go to extreme.
I have to temper poor old Michelle's music taste. They'll
close the bogue and I just have to calm it
a weave it. We're we're not non binary here, I said,
we don't do that on the country, but we're kind
of middle of the road. Let's see what you've got
for rural news. I gota we sting to play the.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
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Speaker 9 (26:38):
In rural news. Rabo Researcher's annual Global Dairy Top twenty
report reveals a year of subtle shifts, with eight companies
switching places with each other in the Top twenty list.
The report, which analyzes the financial performance of the world's
leading dairy companies, found the combined turnover of the global
dairy Top twenty and twenty twenty four increased by zero
(26:58):
point six percent in US dollar terms. France's Lactalise retained
and widened its lead as the largest.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
That was very good.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
I asked, did you did you look up on it
that I've been calling it?
Speaker 9 (27:09):
I asked co pilot, I asked it, how do you say?
Speaker 6 (27:13):
How do you say it?
Speaker 9 (27:13):
Again?
Speaker 4 (27:13):
Lactalise, even with a wee bit of French, has.
Speaker 9 (27:17):
Been a wee bit French. If you're of English speaking persuasion,
it's lactalise. But if you want to be a bit
fancy's lactalise.
Speaker 6 (27:25):
Well done.
Speaker 9 (27:25):
Thanks anyway. That company retained and widened its lead as
the largest global dairy company, with the top five rounded
out by Switzerland's Nestle, the US Dairy Farmers of America,
France's Denon and China's Yearly. Denmark's Ala moved up to sixth,
pushing New Zealand's Fonterra down to seventh. Looking further ahead,
(27:46):
RABA Research says they expect only about half the companies
listed to maintain their positions in twenty twenty six, with
significant merger and acquisition activity on the horizon.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
There you go, Jane Ferguson an excellent I'm doing sports news,
It won't be an excellent read. That was an excellent
read of rural news with a bit of French inflection.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
Well done, sports with.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
An AFCO Kiwi to the bone.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Since nineteen oh four, the prospect of playing the British
and Irish Lions has played a role in to Mighty
Williams signing long term with New Zealand Rugby the All
Blacks prop has confirmed or committed? Should I say through
to the twenty twenty nine season when the Lions returned
to our shawls. How good is that going to be?
And Silver Ferns. Former Silver Ferns shooter Aleiah Dunn has
(28:33):
re signed with the Southern Steel for the A and
Z Premiership in twenty twenty six. Dun debooed for the
franchise as a teenager way back in twenty seventeen before
stints with the Central Pulse and Mainland Tactics. That is
your sports news. Up next, Craig Wiggy Wiggins, lean on
a gate, talk to a mate, nun many then.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Where I'm going to stay.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Welcome back to the country. Just getting myself organized. It's
thirteen away from one. Thank you Brandt. Actually I got
the name of the farmer from Gisbooe who donated the lambs.
I don't know if I'd read it out, he mightn't
want me to talk about it. Fifteen thousand dollars to
Nate Daffodil Day. What a great effort. Here's another champion
for the rural sector, Craig Wiggy Wiggins. And just before
(29:28):
I go to him, because he's the guy behind, lean
on a gate, talk to a mate. It ties in
with what farm Strong is doing around mental health and
farm Strong is all about making your well being a
priority in a mentally and physically demanding job that's farming, obviously,
especially at this time of the year. To find out
more about the daily habits and thinking strategies that increase
(29:52):
wellbeing and lower stress, head to the farm Strong website.
This weekend you can check out the five Ways to
Wellbeing farmstrong dot co dot and zed to Live well
and Farm Well. Now Craig Wiggy Wiggins joins us out
of mid Canterbury. There's your favor there, Wiggy. I think
I've got you to wear. You're doing a great job.
Do you work in with Farmstrong at all?
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Yeah, we do, mate, but probably what we're doing, like
Farmstrong do a great job with wellness and well being,
we're actually doing something pretty incredible with strong people make
strong communities and how you can connect with people and
reach out to them when they are in need. And
especially the rural service industries. You know, our stock agents agronomous,
even the lady at the front of the desk and
(30:36):
the rural schools can tell when the clients and colleagues
aren't trucking too well, and how do they actually have
those conversations with them and where do they go for help?
And so that's kind of where we've been looking at.
And for the last four years Slade McFarlane and I
have been on the road doing this work and we've
been to some amazing places and clubs. New Zealand have
had us in fourteen or fifteen different venues this year
(30:58):
and what the people are telling us, we need to
know how to actually look after our own people and
so blessed you know, there's a couple of grown men
crying the other day in the boardroom at Mates in
Construction when they agreed to come in to help out
with their training program into rural New Zealand. So lean
on the gate and Mates and Construction have a memorandum
(31:20):
of understanding where we will be able to go into
a community and actually train people to connect with those
people that are in need, have case management and O
eight hundred numbers support behind them, and also write through
the suicide assist trained eventually for those that really want
to take that step into this realm and it's a
lot a one stop shop. We will revisit those connectors
(31:41):
and we look after them in the future to see
what they're saying, see what they need support with and
help them too. So this is a really big thing
for mental health and wellbeing and it shifts the gate
way back up off the edge of the cloth. If
we can increase our communities knowledge, awareness and connectivity.
Speaker 6 (31:58):
Well good on you, Wigi.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
And it's been a week for suicide here in New Zealand.
We know that rural folk are farmers, are one and
a half times more likely to commit suicide, tragic as
that sounds as urban folk. And then I know you're
working with Slade McFarlane with the construction industry. They've got
terrible rates there, not good stats at all. And the
construction industry, as we know right at the moment the
(32:21):
New Zealand is going through tough times.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
One hundred percent. And you know, if you look at construction,
I think you know I've been able to open the
eyes to mates and construction as to what's the out
you have been constructed in rural New Zealand. Even if
you look at fencing contractors, et cetera, which I'm the
patron for, they they've been really supportive of what we're
doing because they believe in it too. And you know
Slaves had his own journeys through mental health and wellbeing
and him and I have been working really hard. We
(32:47):
know that we need this, and even Wayne Langford said
the other day in the podcast, you know the time
for talking about it and having guest speakers is probably over.
We actually need to move to the next phase, which
is actually improving our own well being in strength and
communities and that's what we're offering. And we're going to
set up a pilot, a launch here in Eshburton in
(33:08):
October where I'm going to knock on some doors and
get some representatives from companies and individual people can come
along as well and actually hold that first training. Eshburton,
Mid Canterbury has quite shocking stats and around mental health.
And then we'll roll it out to the rest of
the community.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
Yeah sorry, we go just on Mid Canterbury where you're
based house the season trading you.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
It's a beautiful day here today. I mean we've had
a really really wet winter. It's probably been one of
the wettest windows we've had for a long time. But
by the looks of the two carves that we just
pulled out this morning. I mean they've done really well inside.
But yeah it's a beautiful day to day, thank goodness.
But we've had the personal wises too, so that could
dry things out.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
Yeah, okay, good on you keep up the great work
mates and construction with Slade McFarlane and lean on a
gate talk to a mate mental health, mental health on this.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
It's well done, thanks Jamie, thank you.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
Yeah, there we go, Craig wiggy wigans downhearted. If you
are a bit downhearted, remember a problem shared is a
problem halved up next to Barry Sober to at the
Country and the Week.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Ywn hard, it's not week where I'm going to stay.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Welcome back to the Country, wrapping today and the Week,
Barry Sober, political correspondent. Downhearted bears, you're a bit downhearted.
You've lost one of your great mates, John Barnett. And
there was a great story about him this week. Eighty
years of age. What a legend in New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Yes he was. And it's incredible to think, Jamie, a
week ago before he died, a week before he died,
on the Sunday he had an eightieth birthday party and
we're all there celebrating his eighties. He gave a great speech,
and wife, who is a Court of Appeal judge, she
gave a lovely speech as well. And then I saw
him the following Sunday. I was out for a walk,
(35:07):
ran into John, had a long chat to him. He
died that night. And you know, it's unbelievable when you
I'll tell you what it does do, Jamie. It brings
home your own mortality when you see somebody that seemed,
you know, fine in terms of health. And we talked
about that when I saw him last and he was
(35:28):
dead just a few hours.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
Later, Especially when you're past the halfway point like you
and I are.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Well, that's right, Jomien. I couldn't believe it that Barney
came round to my house a couple of years ago
and said to me, our bass I got something to
tell you, and I said, what's that, Barney? He said,
I'm getting married and I said, for god, say you
seventy eight mate. He had never been married before, and
you know, his first marriage. So it was a tragedy
(35:54):
not just for the country losing somebody as talented as
he is because he was still working, but for his
lovely wife Sarah.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
Yeah, once for Warry as well. Right, what a legacy
he leaves behind? Well, what about Nikola Willis? Will she
leave behind a legacy? Is one of our great finance ministers.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Well, you know, I've got I take my hat off
to her. I know she's been criticized in some quarters.
I might say that quarter is Mike Hosking for her
work on the supermarket. I think she's done a sterling
job here. They had requests for information that was fared
through the twenty four requests came through with the big
(36:31):
players internationally. But a lot of people are interested in
opening supermarkets if you believe what the reports are telling us,
and you know, competition is what brings down prices. Even
Costco has met with Nikola Willis prior to this announcement
and said, look, it wants to open in several centers
(36:52):
in the country. It's open here in west Auckland and
you know if they roll out across the country. I
think it's a great move because she's she's done. Essentially,
Jamie has removed all the red tape and welcomed any
grocery competitor in this country.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
I will give a credit her interview with the Hosk.
She wasn't going to be talked down by him. She
talked over him.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
Yes, I thought, I thought you did Extrawdin really well
because she's got a conviction on this one, and you know,
and she's done put a lot of work into it,
and you know, I think this one hopefully will be
a fruit.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
Barry you and I. I'm a Riversdale boy, you're a
Gore boy, both born and Gore, both educated in Gore
Heartland Southland. Southland's got a Shield challenge on Sunday against
White Kado. I waited fifty years from the year I
was born to the year I was fifty for us
to win the Shield Berry and it was so good
(37:48):
in two thousand and nine.
Speaker 6 (37:49):
How good would it be.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
I've got fifteen seconds left if we could take it
home on Sunday, fantastic.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
I'll be tuned in and I'll be right with the Maroons.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
Yeah, got on the Stags. Berry's that's over there, wrapping
the show for today. Thanks for all your feedback. Now
I'm having a beer with Damian O'Connor tonight and Dunedin
and hopefully I'll have him on the show on Monday.
Talking about Molesworth. Lots to talk about there. Until then,
take care, I'm out of here.
Speaker 6 (38:18):
Go the Stags.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
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