September 16, 2025 • 38 mins
Jamie Mackay talks to Christopher Luxon, Shane McManaway, Andrew Murray, Nicola Grigg, and Jeremy Rookes.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's the Country
Podcast with Jamie mckue Thanks to Brent. You're specialist in
John Deere machinery.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Ring ups and falling on my head And just like
the guy who's been up too big for Hugh's bed,
nothing that seems to fit those ring ups and fall
in on my head, think you fall in.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Good afternoon, New Zealand. Welcome to the Country. The show's
brought to you by Brent. I'm Jamie McKay bj Thomas.
Theme song from a great movie called Watch Cassidy in
the Sun Dance coud As we farewell Robert Redford movie
heart throb of the sixties and seventies, pastaway at the
ripe old age of eighty nine, man behind some wonderful movies.
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Christopher Luxon is going to kick off the show as
always on a Wednesday. Good that we've had a turnabout
common senses prevailed about egg and schools. Bit of a
theme on the show today because one of the people
who was chewing the air of the Prime Minister and
others in high places was Shane Mcmanaay, why are Apple
Farmer high profile leader in agri business? They were none
(01:19):
too pleased, so they did something about it. To the
government's credit, they changed their mind. Shane's also the founder
of the Xander MacDonald Awards. Next week the awards are
going to be inducted into the Australian Stock Hall of Fame.
Very proud moment for them. We'll have a look at
last night's Global Dairy Trade Auction with Andrew Murray. Fonterra's
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CFO to be honest, better than expected even though it
went down zero point eight percent. Big week for Fonterra
next week because they have their annual results and they'll
tell you, Fonterra farmers how much you're going to get
paid for your milk for the twenty four to twenty
five season. Looks like ten fifteen is pretty much locked
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and loaded and a late entry to today's running sheet.
On the dance card. Nicola Grigg, Acting Minister of Ag
Todd mcclay's over trying to get some free trade agreements
for US. She has rubbished as a proud Cantabrian the
call from an outgoing e CAN counselor to declare a
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nitrate emergency. What is it about e Can? All that's
on the country between now and one o'clock the Prime
Minister to kick off proceedings Wednesday's On the Country. The
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PM kicks off the show Christopher luxon Good to see
common sense prevail. Agricultural and Horticultural science will remain a
standalone ministry led subject for years twelve and thirteen. But
should it have ever been on the chopping block?
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Well, look, I mean what we're doing with NCAA is
we're replacing it, obviously with me think a much stronger
education program which we actually set our kids up for
a better future with more skills. Yep, the Ministry got
that wrong. But I think what's really impressive is within
a forty eight hour period our own rural nats as
we call them, our national MPs and made it pretty
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clear as they thought that was a mistake. We had
it also from feedback from the sector. The Minister then
directed the Ministry to revisit it and they reversed that decision.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
And I think that's what you want to see.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
You want to see a government that listens to the sector,
responds and actually does something and takes action rather than
just sort of dribbles along and lets it carry on.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Some old mate. Grant mcnational actually does something in there
that he chew your heir No, but it's.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
A way we want to work, which is that we have.
You know, you got to remember we've got a big
team of ministers. We've got four ministers and agriculture in
this government, which underscores the importance of the sector to us.
We've also organized our own national MPs into a group
so that actually we can get the voice of the
sector into our policy making. And I think that's what's
been working well, is that you're see in government and
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a sector partnering incredibly well. I was at the Meeta
Industry Association evening last night in Wellington. Here this morning,
I've just come from the Dairy MZ parliamentary function this morning.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
I spoke at both. I think you've got a good partnership.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Government gets the rules and the operating system set up
creates the conditions for growth and the sectors go out
and smack it and actually deliver that growth.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
That's exactly what's happening across the border.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
How are we getting on with our STA with India
really good?
Speaker 4 (04:44):
I mean we're in our third round of negotiations. That's
actually happening in Queenstown this week which is fantastic, So
that will continue to work. You know, we'll push hard
for that. It's you know, it's a challenging negotiation. The
Indians are notoriously good negotiators, will be difficult and tough,
but you know we're going to do the very best
that we can by New Zealand. And it's important that
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we secure something given you know, Australia and other countries
have something and we don't. And we actually have been
out of action and out of circulation with India and
now we're in really good shape. So I'm really I'm
pleased that that progress is happening. I was really pleased
the UAE agreements come into force. That's a five hundred
billion dollar economy with ninety percent of its food imported
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into it, and you know, it's two free from day one.
It's a great thing that Tom mcclay's been doing. And
he's been up in Saudi Arabia. He's there right now
and you know, talking about more trade and removing trade
impediments there as well. So and it's actually overnight done
a good thing which has formed a Future of Investment
and Trade Group, which is another trade group to advocate
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for free Trade which is formed with New Zealand, the UAE,
Singapore and switzerlandon and a whole bunch of other small
and medium sized countries that want to support more trade.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Farmers are the most confident they've been since twenty seventeen.
I hope history doesn't repeat itself, Chrystalph Luxe And you
know what happened at the end of twenty seventeen.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
No, look, I think it's fantastic. I mean it's awesome.
And farmers were afflicted, they were treated as villains, and
I want them to know they're deeply value, deeps love
by this government. And so it's awesome to see farmer
confidence up and people feeling confident, and despite you know,
choppy international trading conditions, still doing well. I mean, dairies
up seventeen percent, meets up nine I think horticultures up
thirty five. So yeah, that's in a really challenging year.
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So we're well on track to double our value of
our exports, which is what we want to talk about.
Great to have confidence high with farmers and interest rates
coming down helps. I think the government that removes a
lot of red tape and madness from the system so
they can crack on with it.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
It is kind of important one.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Yeah, and you and okay, the coalition is going to
get in most nearly all the votes from the farming sector,
but that's a small percentage of the New Zealand population.
The election won't be one and lost off the back
of farmer votes. So it will be one and lost
in Auckland. You've got a year. Are you running out
a runway?
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (07:01):
Look, I wouldn't worry about it.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
I was elected in twenty twenty three to get crack
on and do a job, which was to turn the
joint around after the mismanagement of the last lot in
twenty twenty sixth. The public will make their decision. It's
called an election, freedom of democracy, all that good stuff.
But I'm very confident. Yes, we've got a two speed
recovery on. But we're coming off the back of the
biggest recession we've had in thirty five years, the longest
COVID hangover any Western economy, and some difficult international training conditions.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
And despite all of that, you're seeing the.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
South Island rural communities, primary industries, Hawks Bay, everyone do well.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
Yes, it's two speed, Yes, it's coming in Auckland.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
It's a bit slower. It's going to follow as it
always does out of recession. But even in Auckland. You know,
we've got a huge amount of infrastructure across the country.
We've got our major events fun that we announced this
this week. A lot of that will go into Auckland
as well. We're seeing construction starting to pick up, manufacturing
starting to pick up with our investment boost policy.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
So you know there's a lot.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Of positives going on in Auckland and it's just wait
you see the full transmission of those lower interest rates
coming through. Just remember, you know you've got forty percent
of New Zealand mortgage holders still to refix their mortgages
within the next six months. Every month there's more and
more people getting the benefit of those lower interest rates.
Puts real money in their back pockets that may get
spent in the economy.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
It's the economy, stupid. Look After the Tammockey mccarru by election,
do you think Chippy, even though he's talking tough against
to Party Murray at the moment, do you think he
might put up patsy candidates in the Maori seats to
guarantee to Party Murray to get in there. If I
were I would do a deal like that.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Well what was what was interesting? I thought they would
you know, I thought they'd win that election big time.
They put their whole apparatus together, they put massive effort
into it with their full Labor Party machine, and they
got actually uploaded.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
Two to one. Mighty Party beat them two to one.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
They had a huge much more resources, much more organization
in there, and they had got three thousand votes out
of an electorate of seventy five thousand. So I don't
know what went wrong, but clearly something did go wrong.
But at the end of the day, they've all got
the same policies, right, I mean they all want to
run up the debt.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
They want to spend more.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
They want to borrow more, they want to text you more.
They're going to have wealth tax, inheritance tax, capital gains tax.
You watch it, it's coming.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
Yeah, that's no.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
I get all that.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
So I mean he's got to make it this wrong
with in or out.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
I can tell that I'm not going to be in
cold government with Tarti Mari for sure.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Praise the Lord Prime Minister. Thank you very much for
your time today on the country.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
All right, Jovi, you take care, have a great week.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Gay well it is sixteen after twelve, Thank you, Prime Minister.
Right up next Shane mcmanaway. Mainly these days are wider
rapp a farmer, but an agry, big business leader. Nonetheless,
he nonetheless he was one of the people who chewed
the air of senior government ministers and officials to get
an about turn on keeping egg and egg science and
(09:49):
as schools, what were they thinking of? He's also the
guy behind the Xander McDonald Award. Will tell you all
about that next. Entries open on the first of October
through to the end of the months, so we're going
to tell you how you can enter and if you
qualify to enter for Leaders and Agribusiness Young Entrepreneurs in Australasia.
(10:10):
Andrew Murray from Fonterra better than expected GDT result and
believe it or not, an outgoing e can counselor wants
to declare a nitrate emergency in Canterbury. I suppose that
makes a change from a climate emergency, doesn't it. Robert
Redford passed away eighty nine. I see. I went online
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to see what his greatest movies were, and this is
my favorite one. Push Cassidy and The Sun Dance Kid.
It was ranked number one, The Sting either them both
with Paul Newman. Number two, All Is Lost. I've never
seen that movie. After facing a devastating collision, a sailor
finds himself alone at sea, struggling to survive. There you go,
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ranked number three, the way we were with Barbara Streisan,
number four, The Horse Whisperer. It's not a bad movie
at five and All the President's Men. That's the Watergate movie.
It was what was it Dustin Hoffman and in it
in him in the movie with Robert Redford on that one.
I can't remember, but anyhow gone but never forgotten. Up next,
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Shane mcmanaway will see how the farming is, how farming's
faring in the Wire Rapper.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
By complaining because now there's worry me ing ups and
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fallen on my head and just like the guys feed.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Up to welcome back to the country twenty two after twelve,
let's head to the wire Rapper. He's one of the
people who were chewing the airs of those in high
places to get in about turn to get egg back
onto school curriculums. But before we do that, Shane mcmaonaway,
what's your favorite Robert Redford movie? You're a bit of
a Robert Redford look alike. There you go.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
Well, Jamie, I'm not too sure what movies I like,
to be quite honest, but I quite like the song
rain Drops are falling on your head.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
But somebody did.
Speaker 6 (12:18):
Say to me once I looked a bit like him.
But I think that was really really late at night,
after somebody there probably had too many drinks.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
I think, well, you need some rain drops to keep
falling on your head in the wire Rapper. In fact,
the east coast of both islands are now starting to
get dangerously dry, but a tad dry.
Speaker 7 (12:36):
Yeah, we.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
Grasp.
Speaker 6 (12:39):
Growth is pretty slow here. We could do with the rain,
and looks like we might get a bit off the
hills tonight, but it's quite cold. I think the ground
temperature is about nine to ten degrees, so we're not
quite there ready for our spring flush at this stage.
But I hope it turns up pretty soon, Jamie, because
we're out flat out buying cattle and they'll need something
to eat when they turn up.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Find a gold mine on your farm, Shane.
Speaker 6 (13:02):
No, but I guess we've got heaps going out going
out the gates, so you've got to keep bringing them
back in. It's all relative, Jamie. But I've just unloaded
twenty good Angustis this morning and they came from up north.
They looked pretty good.
Speaker 7 (13:14):
So I think you've got to keep in the.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Game, absolutely. And the thing about beef is the prospects
for beef in particular, of all of our primary sector sectors.
I've got too many sectors in that sentence. I think
beef's looking the strongest of the whole lot for in
the medium term anyhow, short to medium term.
Speaker 6 (13:33):
Yeah, I couldn't agree. More looks really really promising, and
you know it takes. It's really lifted the spirits of
our farmers around here. And I get up and down
the country as well, Jamie, So long may it continue?
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Now? Who is my old mate, Grant mcnashal, who'll be
taking credit for changing the Prime Minister and the Minister
of Education's mind Erica Stanford. But who did choose the heirs?
Speaker 6 (13:56):
Well, I think there are a number of us, but
I guess I need to knowledge Carry Allen, who's the
Agri Business in Schools director. She's done a fabulous job.
She grabbed hold of it, and she's got a lot
of contacts and obviously very passionate about this particular area
in education. Jamie and I got stuck in on the
Friday afternoon and ran on a few cages and I
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actually got a text from the head person of Ministry
of Education, Alan McGregor Reed, who contacted me over the
weekend and wanted a call, which was really really good
that they were reaching out to see if they could
have a chat, which they did, and I've spoken to
her probably three or four times since the announcement went
back out. But I guess what was a very bad
decision in the first instance, but it's turned around and
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it's probably out of some bads come some good. But
what it did demonstrate Jamie is I don't know that
we've got a good voice into those places like the
Ministry of Education. We've got a lot of people doing
a lot of stuff, but we're fragmented and they were
really keen to talk to us, and so I think
we've now set up a better communication platform. So let's
hope that doesn't happen again. In fact of anything, hope
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that we can leverage it and even get a better
position out of.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
It now, remind me, carry Ellen, she it's a she,
isn't it?
Speaker 5 (15:08):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Yeah, okay, And isn't she in charge of egg and St. Paul's.
So Peter's helped me out here. Yeah and Paul's yep, yeah,
Well that's I mean, there's some schools around the country.
Saint Paul's is one, a Mount Albert Graham is another,
Fielding yet another. The schools that are really doing a
great job on egg and schools around the country up.
Speaker 6 (15:31):
And down the country. Now, Jamie, there are I've been
speaking at a couple of the schools here in the wire,
but at their assemblies about I guess they asked me
to come and talk about my journey and how agriculture.
Agriculture has served me throughout my career. And you know,
I get so many of the young guys and girls
coming up afterwards who are just so keen to get
into it and they just need to know more about it.
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And even from our little toddlers at five, they need
to know where their food comes from, so that they
know where milk comes from, where their meat comes from.
We need to be teaching it at a very very
early age because I think we're losing a lot of that.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
You are the founder or you were the founder of
the Zander MacDonald Awards. Next week they awards are going
to be inducted into the Australian Stockman Hall of Fame.
That must be a very proud moment for you.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
Yeah, Jamie, that is eleven years old our award, and
you know and Xander it was a well known figure
in Australia, but certainly in Queensland and long Reach being
in queens And it's a really special place. And they
reached out and asked if we could have the trophy,
the bronze trophy that I had made eleven years ago
inducted and inducted into there. So we're going up to
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an event up there, Donald, Chris, that's sound as Mum
and dad and Julie so Ander's wife will be there.
It'll be a really really neat occasion. And I guess
it just shows you where that award is now, where
it sits in terms of its prestigious position. It's certainly
in Australia, but also here in New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Excuse my geographical ignorance, long Reach.
Speaker 6 (17:01):
It's a bloody long way west at Brisbane, Jamie, but
it's about three hours in a polatas PC twelve or
two and a half hours, which we're going to be
flying up in because Pilada is one of our key
sponsors for the Xander McDonald Awards, so we won't be
roughing it getting up there.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
I'm sure you won't be. If you're passionate about making
a difference in agriculture in Australia or New Zealand and
your age between twenty one and thirty five years of age,
you can apply for this year's Xander McDonald Awards, which
which will be announced next year. I think your conference
is in christ Church, so entries open for that on
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October the first, but you've only got a month.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
Yep. Absolutely, Jamie.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
I would absolutely ask anybody that thinks who's keen to
have a look at it, to go and get on
our website, have a look and apply because it can
be life changing. It has been life changing for those
that have been involved in it, not only the winners
but the finalists.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
You know.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
It absolutely allows you into a network of people right
across Australasia one hundred and fifty of sort of the
movers and shakers in the primary production sector and you
get the key to the door of their farms and
they are very keen to help and support. So it's
an incredible award and one that I'm incredibly proud of and.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
So you should be. Shane mcmanaway, congratulations not only on that,
but also chewing some airs along with a lot of
other key people and ag to get a bit of
about turn on egg in our school curriculum. Long mate,
continue to thrive. Ah here Jamie, and I hope you
get some rain.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
He needs some rain drops falling on his head. It's
what is the time? It is twenty nine after twelve,
you are with the country. I might go and watch
a Robert Redford movie tonight. Just reminiss up next Michelle
with the latest in rural news. I think I think
she's going to talk about another MP in New Zealand.
(18:52):
First MP. Mark Patterson's over in China trying to encourage
sales of war. Good luck to him on that one.
I think One of our guests on tomorrow's show, Peter Newbold,
the head of real estate and livestock for PGG Rights,
and is in China at the moment. Also before the
end of the air, Andrew Murray out of Fonterra. Big
week for Fonterra. Next week it's their annual results. But
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in the meantime, we're going to have a look at
last night's Global Dairy Trade auction and Nicola grigg an
he can counselor wants to declare a climate no, not
a climate emergency, a night trade emergency. What next? Okay?
Up next? Rural news and sports news.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
I'm living, gonna stop the rien back and cleaning because
nothing's worrying.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
And just like the guns, welcome back to the country.
Enough rain drops falling on my head. It's pissing down
in South Otago and we don't need it. I think
it is going to clear this afternoon for you folk
in South Otago. I hope I'm right there. That September,
as I said yesterday to Phil Duncan, that's a cruel
mistress of a month where we'll be back with Michelle
(20:14):
in just a tick. But uh no, we won't be
back with We will be back with Michelle and just
a tick. Bear with me, double double I've double loaded myself.
Only Michelle knows the mistake I've made. You people out
there are totally unaware of it. Let's have a look
(20:34):
at Rural News.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
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dot z for your locals, Douggist.
Speaker 8 (20:45):
The Minister will meet with k we Will businesses operating
in China and discuss ways to grow both countries will sectors.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
He also.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Which minister I've you said? The Minister's are you talking about?
Mark Patterson?
Speaker 8 (21:01):
I just went into absolute talking about mistakes, just went
into complete autopilot mode. Associate Agricultural Minister Mark Patterson is
in China.
Speaker 7 (21:08):
There we go.
Speaker 8 (21:09):
So China is New Zigan's largest wall market was one
hundred and seventy six million of the four hundred and
forty six million in total war exports going there in
the year to June. The Minister will meet with Kiwi
Wal businesses operating in China and discuss ways to grow
both countries at War Sectors. Patterson says the coalition government
is focused on boosting exports and delivering more value to
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farmers and manufacturers. And you'll be in Shanghai and Nanjing
until September twenty first.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Okay, I'm just trying to load my rural news. I'm
just trying to load sports news. It's spitting me out.
But no, it has just the right So here we go.
Better late than never sport with AFCO.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Visit them online at AFCO dot co dot NZ.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
All Blacks half back Camroyguard will make his return from
a foot injury this weekend for Counties Monaco and their
NPC game against Auckland. We need him, don't we. New
Zealand cricket coach Rob Walter is relishing the impact past
bowler Ben Sears could offer a next month's home T
twenty series against Australia. The twenty seven year old returns
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to the fold after missing the tour of Zimbabwe with
a side strain. So there you go. That's the sports
news for you. A more in depth bulletin for you
at the top of the hour one o'clock on News
Talk z'b up. Next, we're going to have a look
at last night's global dairy trade auction better than expected
with Fonterra's Andrew Murray. Another global dairy trade auction overnight
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and all things considered, including the futures market and the
pulse auction, this was not a bad result to tell
us a bit more about it and preview next week's
annual results meeting. CFO Chief Financial Officer Andrew Murray. Do
you concur with my bag magnificent summary of the auction?
Speaker 9 (23:02):
It was certainly a magnificant summary, Jamie. Yeah, Look, I
think that's fatty much what we think too. Certainly a
little better than the derivative markets were indicating. So not
about results all up.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
There was a worry that battle was going to take
a bit of a tumble, but it hasn't.
Speaker 9 (23:17):
No, No, it actually stayed relatively relatively robust if you
think about it. A lot of strong bidding from China
last night. I think that really just helped to keep
this price supported. But we've got to be clear though,
there's there's a lot of international supply around. You know,
look at europe prices now they're actually trading below US,
which is a big reversal on the past couple of months.
So there's a lot of international supply. So it was
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nice to see it, but I think definitely some pressure
on that.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Why is there such a difference between our butter price
and the spot price in the US?
Speaker 9 (23:48):
Yeah, the US is added a bit of a has
been at a bit of a discount. They've just got
a lot of suppliers there at the moment, they've had
quite a significant increase in production and that's been accelerating
over the say, the last few months, so to start
to produce a lot more and it's over stripping domestic consumption.
So know that that basically makes it available for export.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
So zero point eight fall across the board on the index.
Whole milk powder down as zero point eight percent, skim
milk powder just zero point three percent, other small drops.
But cheese went against the tide, up two point two percent.
Why is that?
Speaker 9 (24:25):
Yeah, it certainly did. Actually, so sort of you know,
I said, bucking the trend as we would say, really
strong demand from Middle East and again from China actually,
so you know, good robust demand, kind of left out
pacing in langes where the European pacing is US A
PI obviously being a little bit less expensive than that. Again,
so images of building and I think we will see
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a little bit more competition in this market, certainly in
the near town.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Big week next week on Monday, we get an insight
into August milk collections the Decans Reporter. This is all
the dairy companies reporting their collections, and August was pretty good,
but for a lot of the country's September has been
a bit of a slow and cold and wet and
windy month.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (25:07):
Yeah, certainly seeing itself and a little bit bit a
little bit obviously July was sort of record production. I
think August held pretty well, but certainly seeing it come
off a little bit.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
No.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Yeah, on Thursday, you've got your full year update. You'll
announce not only your annual results, but more interestingly for
someone like me anyhow, how that final milk price. But
it's pretty much locked and loaded at ten dollars fifteen.
Speaker 9 (25:30):
Yeah, look, I mean we're really comfortable with what we
put out in terms of that milk price forecast. Obviously
I can't tell you anything that I'm going to tell
you next Thursday, but you know, we're really happy with
with with we're landing for the year and looking forward
actually to getting on the road with the farmers the
next week, you know, the road shows starting the week
at the twenty ninth, So really good opportunity to just
(25:51):
talk about how you know, the corpus performing. And of
course I'm sure there were a lot of questions about
the divestment as well.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
So what's the farmer feedback you're getting. It seems like
it's going to be a done deal.
Speaker 9 (26:04):
Oh look, I mean I think it's I think it's
generally positive. Although you know, there is a lot of
requests for more information. People want to learn a little
bit more about it, and I think more about what
does the co op look like afterwards, and so that's
what we'll be We're spending a lot of our time
on when we're on the road just having those conversations
about you know, what's the strength of the co op
when you go forwards and we're pretty clear on that,
(26:24):
but you know, to good to get that message out.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Andrew Murray, good luck for next week. Thanks for your
time today on the country.
Speaker 9 (26:31):
Cheers, Damien, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Nineteen A wave from one up Next. Nicola Gregg got
a text from this morning. I need to be on
your show, she said. I said, I've already got one
that on, don't really want too, but she said, no,
it's an emergency. It's a night trade emergency in Canterbury.
Nicola Gregg up next, Acting Minister of Agriculture and Minister
of Horticulture. No, just when you thought things couldn't get worse.
(27:02):
Toy Can one of the counselors wants to declare a
nitrate emergency. To discuss this emergency, Acting agg Minister and
Minister of Horticulture and proud Cantabrian Nicola Gregg. What's in
the water up there, Nicola, That's probably a dumb question.
Speaker 7 (27:19):
Well, all sorts of very good things are in the water,
but you know it has to be acknowledged there are
nitrates in our water. There has been historical bad practice,
you know, in over thirty years. But what I would
say is is every single farm across Canterbury that I
know of are going to the ends of the earth
to employ really really high, world class standards of environmental
(27:41):
practice and are going beyond what they need to do
to be cleaning up our waterways. And I think attacks
like this serve no purpose, They have no legal standing,
They are simply inflammatory and are doing nothing but pitch
that urban, you know, urban against rural once again, right
(28:02):
when things were starting to settle down and look really
really good.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
But this is just one environment Canterbury counselor grand standing
ahead of the local body elections. Or is this the
view or is this the view of can across.
Speaker 7 (28:15):
The board as it transpires, I understand she's actually not
standing again, So I don't understand why she would feel
the need to cause such consternation and angst again amongst
the rural Canterbury community when, as I say, it will
(28:35):
serve no purpose. This declaration has no legal effect.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
You would have caught up with David Clark's story. We
covered it earlier in the week on the show here
just roadblock after the roadblock, the blog's going to have
to spend fifty grand just to stay consented for farming.
Speaker 7 (28:52):
Yeah, and it's again, it's just napsic nonsense. I know
David very well. Our family farm is very close to
his farm as well, and I would rate David as
one of the best farmers in New Zealand. And it
just goes to show that if he can't meet requirements
and expectations then they are simply out of touch. And
this is why as the government, we are working so
hard and fast to try and rewrite the RMA, which
(29:15):
will be legislated for by next year, which is going
to shift the dial on rules around land use consents,
water use consents, all of that kind of thing. Where
you know, it's the premise of an RMA consent will
be to say yes as opposed to say no. It
will be to consider the positive effects on the environment
(29:37):
as opposed to the negative effects. So we're really going
to turn this thing on its head and enable our
most productive economy in the country to get on with
doing what it does best, and that is farming.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Shane Jones wants rid of regional councils. Has he got
merit in that argument?
Speaker 7 (29:53):
Well, if you're sitting in Canterbury today, you'd probably agree
with him, wouldn't you.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
And you know what's going on down on Southland there
farmers getting all sorts of invoices for activities when they've
done effectively nothing wrong.
Speaker 7 (30:05):
Yes, and you could say the same for the West Coast,
at the North Island, around Kapati, all those areas there
are we have. You know, I've got a pile of
examples from farmers across New Zealand which are just buttoning
up against regional councils and their interpretation of rules. It
seems to me to be overly zealous at times quite pernicious,
and we've really got to come back to the facts here,
(30:28):
you know, if you talk to one of the councilors
on he can one of the you know, I think
the more sensible counselors, he would tell you that this
particular example in Canterbury, they're using wells that are known
to be in high night trait spots. They're the same
wells showing the same levels for the past thirty five
years in Canterbury. This is not new, it's a well
(30:48):
documented legacy issue. Equally, I hear people you know throwing
up concern about the potential for bowel cancer to be
caused by natrix and water. Well, that's, you know, it's
a very valid gene concerned to have. But look to
Bowcanser in New Zealand. Look to their website itself states
that night trates and water are quote highly unlikely to
increase the risk of bow cancer in New Zealand. I
(31:11):
hear people, you know talking about blue baby syndrome being coursed, Well,
it is very very rare. There has been two hospitalizations
in the whole country between twenty twelve and twenty one
of babies and neither could conclude the symptoms were caused
by night trates. So we've got to be very clear
on the facts here before the hysteria starts up. And
(31:31):
I would say this hysteria has been stoked along by
irresponsible representatives on regional councils.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Nichola, Greg just check on your horticulture Minister's hat. Industry
is largely doing very, very well. I do have to
feel for the avocado growers. They always seem to be
up against it, and yesterday we heard news around Bay
are plenty of avocado crops being smashed by the high winds.
She's a tough business growing anything.
Speaker 7 (31:58):
Yeah, yeah, it is. And you know, and you'd say
that for farming across the board. If you haven't got
regional councils editating against you, you've got the weather. Well,
you know, we can try and do something about one,
but we can't quite do much about the other. But look,
I really do feel for those growers. Wind is no
good for avocados. That causes rub that, you know, it
makes them look far less desirable when they're on the
(32:19):
shop shelves, and that is very unfortunate for them. But
I'm afraid we can't We can't help with the weather.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Jamie Nikola, you'd be a millennial, wouldn't you.
Speaker 7 (32:27):
I doubt it.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
What year were you born?
Speaker 7 (32:30):
Oh, Damie, that's a personal question, but nineteen eighty. I'm
a child of the eighties.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Oh well, your generation X. You've just missed out on
being a millennial. Sorry, and I didn't want to ask
a lady her aged Nicholas, but I was. I was
just thinking, you know, millennial smashed avocado on toast, but
you've missed that by one year.
Speaker 7 (32:51):
I have, I have. I'm probably still making an eggs
on toast kind of girl.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Good on you. Thanks for your time today, Thank you,
Thank you. So it is twenty it's nine away from one.
You're with The Country up next, walking proof of what
nitrates and water can do for you. Jeremy Rook's out
of Canterbury. I'll leave it at that now before I go.
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Speaker 2 (34:24):
Ups fallen on my head.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Okay, wrapping the Country, got some time to fill Walking
proof what nitrates in water can do to your Jeremy Rooks,
our lifestyle correspondent out of Canterbury, Gee, I hope Otargo
can win the shield. Just before we go to Jeremy,
here's some of your texts, Jamie. Last week it was
Mike Joy. This week it's e can An Environment Southland.
The assault is never ending farming is already hard enough.
(34:49):
Regards Stephen, I agree with you, Stephen E can an
environment Southland need to stay in their lane. What do
you reckon Jeremy Rooks.
Speaker 10 (34:58):
Well, you can say that un till they're blue in
the face. But the reality is that depending on the
political persuasion of either counselors or staff, they can either
be pragmatic or interpret the legislation to the letter of
the law. And so what Whilst they've been very very
difficult to David Clark who's got all the headlines and
(35:19):
got on them for making it a public issue now,
but the thing is they are only interpreting the law
and like it or not, that's how some people roll
because no one will put their hands up and go
and the staff and go that's ridiculous. It's not going
to work because they don't come out and if they're
left leaning Greenies, they love it to make it hard.
(35:39):
So the buck stops for central government, not eken.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Do you think Shane Jones is onto it We just
get rid of regional councils and have unitary authorities.
Speaker 10 (35:49):
Oh maybe, But the reality is it's all about what's
written in the law. You know, you know it's all
very well. Politicians grandstanding in national will just start ap
piling into the last two days because they see there's
a bit of potential rural traction for voting. But this
has been going on for a long time and it's
just been bubbling away like an old stew in the winter.
(36:10):
And suddenly someone's turned up the heat in the former
David Clark, and he's made the public in all of
the farming community aware of this insanity that are set
at the highest level.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
This rumor is that Canterbury's Robert Redford look alike hobby farmer. Namely,
you did you declare yourself to look be Robert Redford
look alike? I can't imagine anyone else doing it.
Speaker 10 (36:31):
Well, I'm sureably blonde Jamie and a chiseled jaw, and
that jaw was hiding under five genes. But certainly some
of the some of my mother's friends have referred to
me to Robert Rookford at times.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Oh stop it now. There's also nasty rumors doing the
rounds that you were actually on the tools this week
you did today's tailing. How did you handle that?
Speaker 10 (36:53):
Oh God, you realize how weak and unsit you are
when you sort of become a lifestyle. I was nearly dead,
probably pick up about five hundred lambs and chop the
tails of another five hundred, and I was absolutely done
by the end of it. I can tell you, yes, horrible.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
What were the lambing percentages like on the farm you
were tailing on?
Speaker 10 (37:11):
Ah, they're all twins now.
Speaker 5 (37:13):
They were good. They were good.
Speaker 10 (37:14):
They were headwaters lambs and very very good lambs. And
I mean, I mean the lambs are going like hell
because it's been pretty good conditions. You know, it's getting
hot and dry, so lambs doing really well at the minute.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Well, we talked to Shane mcmaanawey, he's looking for rain
and the Wira rapper I know, basically from North Otago
up you're looking for rain.
Speaker 10 (37:33):
Well, it's twenty four degrees as we speak, and it's
blowing the proverb hills, you know. I think we mean
to get like fifteen mills the soufternoon, which would be good.
But I mean that's just what happens in the spring, Jamie.
The wind blows and it gets right.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
So yeah, yeah, September is the worst weather month of
the year. Hey, Jeremy, thanks for filling and its short notice,
and I was just joking that you were walking proof
of what can happen if nitrates get into the water system.
That's us done and dust and we'll be back with
Shane Jones tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's the Country
Podcast with Jamie McKay. Thanks to Brent, you're specialist in
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Ring ups and falling on my head And just like
the guy who's been up too big for Hugh's bed,
nothing that seems to fit those ring ups and fall
in on my head, think you fall in.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Good afternoon, New Zealand. Welcome to the Country. The show's
brought to you by Brent. I'm Jamie McKay bj Thomas.
Theme song from a great movie called Watch Cassidy in
the Sun Dance coud As we farewell Robert Redford movie
heart throb of the sixties and seventies, pastaway at the
ripe old age of eighty nine, man behind some wonderful movies.
(00:55):
Christopher Luxon is going to kick off the show as
always on a Wednesday. Good that we've had a turnabout
common senses prevailed about egg and schools. Bit of a
theme on the show today because one of the people
who was chewing the air of the Prime Minister and
others in high places was Shane Mcmanaay, why are Apple
Farmer high profile leader in agri business? They were none
(01:19):
too pleased, so they did something about it. To the
government's credit, they changed their mind. Shane's also the founder
of the Xander MacDonald Awards. Next week the awards are
going to be inducted into the Australian Stock Hall of Fame.
Very proud moment for them. We'll have a look at
last night's Global Dairy Trade Auction with Andrew Murray. Fonterra's
(01:41):
CFO to be honest, better than expected even though it
went down zero point eight percent. Big week for Fonterra
next week because they have their annual results and they'll
tell you, Fonterra farmers how much you're going to get
paid for your milk for the twenty four to twenty
five season. Looks like ten fifteen is pretty much locked
(02:01):
and loaded and a late entry to today's running sheet.
On the dance card. Nicola Grigg, Acting Minister of Ag
Todd mcclay's over trying to get some free trade agreements
for US. She has rubbished as a proud Cantabrian the
call from an outgoing e CAN counselor to declare a
(02:24):
nitrate emergency. What is it about e Can? All that's
on the country between now and one o'clock the Prime
Minister to kick off proceedings Wednesday's On the Country. The
(02:54):
PM kicks off the show Christopher luxon Good to see
common sense prevail. Agricultural and Horticultural science will remain a
standalone ministry led subject for years twelve and thirteen. But
should it have ever been on the chopping block?
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Well, look, I mean what we're doing with NCAA is
we're replacing it, obviously with me think a much stronger
education program which we actually set our kids up for
a better future with more skills. Yep, the Ministry got
that wrong. But I think what's really impressive is within
a forty eight hour period our own rural nats as
we call them, our national MPs and made it pretty
(03:33):
clear as they thought that was a mistake. We had
it also from feedback from the sector. The Minister then
directed the Ministry to revisit it and they reversed that decision.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
And I think that's what you want to see.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
You want to see a government that listens to the sector,
responds and actually does something and takes action rather than
just sort of dribbles along and lets it carry on.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Some old mate. Grant mcnational actually does something in there
that he chew your heir No, but it's.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
A way we want to work, which is that we have.
You know, you got to remember we've got a big
team of ministers. We've got four ministers and agriculture in
this government, which underscores the importance of the sector to us.
We've also organized our own national MPs into a group
so that actually we can get the voice of the
sector into our policy making. And I think that's what's
been working well, is that you're see in government and
(04:17):
a sector partnering incredibly well. I was at the Meeta
Industry Association evening last night in Wellington. Here this morning,
I've just come from the Dairy MZ parliamentary function this morning.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
I spoke at both. I think you've got a good partnership.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Government gets the rules and the operating system set up
creates the conditions for growth and the sectors go out
and smack it and actually deliver that growth.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
That's exactly what's happening across the border.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
How are we getting on with our STA with India
really good?
Speaker 4 (04:44):
I mean we're in our third round of negotiations. That's
actually happening in Queenstown this week which is fantastic, So
that will continue to work. You know, we'll push hard
for that. It's you know, it's a challenging negotiation. The
Indians are notoriously good negotiators, will be difficult and tough,
but you know we're going to do the very best
that we can by New Zealand. And it's important that
(05:06):
we secure something given you know, Australia and other countries
have something and we don't. And we actually have been
out of action and out of circulation with India and
now we're in really good shape. So I'm really I'm
pleased that that progress is happening. I was really pleased
the UAE agreements come into force. That's a five hundred
billion dollar economy with ninety percent of its food imported
(05:27):
into it, and you know, it's two free from day one.
It's a great thing that Tom mcclay's been doing. And
he's been up in Saudi Arabia. He's there right now
and you know, talking about more trade and removing trade
impediments there as well. So and it's actually overnight done
a good thing which has formed a Future of Investment
and Trade Group, which is another trade group to advocate
(05:47):
for free Trade which is formed with New Zealand, the UAE,
Singapore and switzerlandon and a whole bunch of other small
and medium sized countries that want to support more trade.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Farmers are the most confident they've been since twenty seventeen.
I hope history doesn't repeat itself, Chrystalph Luxe And you
know what happened at the end of twenty seventeen.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
No, look, I think it's fantastic. I mean it's awesome.
And farmers were afflicted, they were treated as villains, and
I want them to know they're deeply value, deeps love
by this government. And so it's awesome to see farmer
confidence up and people feeling confident, and despite you know,
choppy international trading conditions, still doing well. I mean, dairies
up seventeen percent, meets up nine I think horticultures up
thirty five. So yeah, that's in a really challenging year.
(06:30):
So we're well on track to double our value of
our exports, which is what we want to talk about.
Great to have confidence high with farmers and interest rates
coming down helps. I think the government that removes a
lot of red tape and madness from the system so
they can crack on with it.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
It is kind of important one.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Yeah, and you and okay, the coalition is going to
get in most nearly all the votes from the farming sector,
but that's a small percentage of the New Zealand population.
The election won't be one and lost off the back
of farmer votes. So it will be one and lost
in Auckland. You've got a year. Are you running out
a runway?
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (07:01):
Look, I wouldn't worry about it.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
I was elected in twenty twenty three to get crack
on and do a job, which was to turn the
joint around after the mismanagement of the last lot in
twenty twenty sixth. The public will make their decision. It's
called an election, freedom of democracy, all that good stuff.
But I'm very confident. Yes, we've got a two speed
recovery on. But we're coming off the back of the
biggest recession we've had in thirty five years, the longest
COVID hangover any Western economy, and some difficult international training conditions.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
And despite all of that, you're seeing the.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
South Island rural communities, primary industries, Hawks Bay, everyone do well.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
Yes, it's two speed, Yes, it's coming in Auckland.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
It's a bit slower. It's going to follow as it
always does out of recession. But even in Auckland. You know,
we've got a huge amount of infrastructure across the country.
We've got our major events fun that we announced this
this week. A lot of that will go into Auckland
as well. We're seeing construction starting to pick up, manufacturing
starting to pick up with our investment boost policy.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
So you know there's a lot.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Of positives going on in Auckland and it's just wait
you see the full transmission of those lower interest rates
coming through. Just remember, you know you've got forty percent
of New Zealand mortgage holders still to refix their mortgages
within the next six months. Every month there's more and
more people getting the benefit of those lower interest rates.
Puts real money in their back pockets that may get
spent in the economy.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
It's the economy, stupid. Look After the Tammockey mccarru by election,
do you think Chippy, even though he's talking tough against
to Party Murray at the moment, do you think he
might put up patsy candidates in the Maori seats to
guarantee to Party Murray to get in there. If I
were I would do a deal like that.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Well what was what was interesting? I thought they would
you know, I thought they'd win that election big time.
They put their whole apparatus together, they put massive effort
into it with their full Labor Party machine, and they
got actually uploaded.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
Two to one. Mighty Party beat them two to one.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
They had a huge much more resources, much more organization
in there, and they had got three thousand votes out
of an electorate of seventy five thousand. So I don't
know what went wrong, but clearly something did go wrong.
But at the end of the day, they've all got
the same policies, right, I mean they all want to
run up the debt.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
They want to spend more.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
They want to borrow more, they want to text you more.
They're going to have wealth tax, inheritance tax, capital gains tax.
You watch it, it's coming.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
Yeah, that's no.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
I get all that.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
So I mean he's got to make it this wrong
with in or out.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
I can tell that I'm not going to be in
cold government with Tarti Mari for sure.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Praise the Lord Prime Minister. Thank you very much for
your time today on the country.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
All right, Jovi, you take care, have a great week.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Gay well it is sixteen after twelve, Thank you, Prime Minister.
Right up next Shane mcmanaway. Mainly these days are wider
rapp a farmer, but an agry, big business leader. Nonetheless,
he nonetheless he was one of the people who chewed
the air of senior government ministers and officials to get
an about turn on keeping egg and egg science and
(09:49):
as schools, what were they thinking of? He's also the
guy behind the Xander McDonald Award. Will tell you all
about that next. Entries open on the first of October
through to the end of the months, so we're going
to tell you how you can enter and if you
qualify to enter for Leaders and Agribusiness Young Entrepreneurs in Australasia.
(10:10):
Andrew Murray from Fonterra better than expected GDT result and
believe it or not, an outgoing e can counselor wants
to declare a nitrate emergency in Canterbury. I suppose that
makes a change from a climate emergency, doesn't it. Robert
Redford passed away eighty nine. I see. I went online
(10:33):
to see what his greatest movies were, and this is
my favorite one. Push Cassidy and The Sun Dance Kid.
It was ranked number one, The Sting either them both
with Paul Newman. Number two, All Is Lost. I've never
seen that movie. After facing a devastating collision, a sailor
finds himself alone at sea, struggling to survive. There you go,
(10:55):
ranked number three, the way we were with Barbara Streisan,
number four, The Horse Whisperer. It's not a bad movie
at five and All the President's Men. That's the Watergate movie.
It was what was it Dustin Hoffman and in it
in him in the movie with Robert Redford on that one.
I can't remember, but anyhow gone but never forgotten. Up next,
(11:18):
Shane mcmanaway will see how the farming is, how farming's
faring in the Wire Rapper.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
By complaining because now there's worry me ing ups and
(11:45):
fallen on my head and just like the guys feed.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Up to welcome back to the country twenty two after twelve,
let's head to the wire Rapper. He's one of the
people who were chewing the airs of those in high
places to get in about turn to get egg back
onto school curriculums. But before we do that, Shane mcmaonaway,
what's your favorite Robert Redford movie? You're a bit of
a Robert Redford look alike. There you go.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
Well, Jamie, I'm not too sure what movies I like,
to be quite honest, but I quite like the song
rain Drops are falling on your head.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
But somebody did.
Speaker 6 (12:18):
Say to me once I looked a bit like him.
But I think that was really really late at night,
after somebody there probably had too many drinks.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
I think, well, you need some rain drops to keep
falling on your head in the wire Rapper. In fact,
the east coast of both islands are now starting to
get dangerously dry, but a tad dry.
Speaker 7 (12:36):
Yeah, we.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
Grasp.
Speaker 6 (12:39):
Growth is pretty slow here. We could do with the rain,
and looks like we might get a bit off the
hills tonight, but it's quite cold. I think the ground
temperature is about nine to ten degrees, so we're not
quite there ready for our spring flush at this stage.
But I hope it turns up pretty soon, Jamie, because
we're out flat out buying cattle and they'll need something
to eat when they turn up.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Find a gold mine on your farm, Shane.
Speaker 6 (13:02):
No, but I guess we've got heaps going out going
out the gates, so you've got to keep bringing them
back in. It's all relative, Jamie. But I've just unloaded
twenty good Angustis this morning and they came from up north.
They looked pretty good.
Speaker 7 (13:14):
So I think you've got to keep in the.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Game, absolutely. And the thing about beef is the prospects
for beef in particular, of all of our primary sector sectors.
I've got too many sectors in that sentence. I think
beef's looking the strongest of the whole lot for in
the medium term anyhow, short to medium term.
Speaker 6 (13:33):
Yeah, I couldn't agree. More looks really really promising, and
you know it takes. It's really lifted the spirits of
our farmers around here. And I get up and down
the country as well, Jamie, So long may it continue?
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Now? Who is my old mate, Grant mcnashal, who'll be
taking credit for changing the Prime Minister and the Minister
of Education's mind Erica Stanford. But who did choose the heirs?
Speaker 6 (13:56):
Well, I think there are a number of us, but
I guess I need to knowledge Carry Allen, who's the
Agri Business in Schools director. She's done a fabulous job.
She grabbed hold of it, and she's got a lot
of contacts and obviously very passionate about this particular area
in education. Jamie and I got stuck in on the
Friday afternoon and ran on a few cages and I
(14:17):
actually got a text from the head person of Ministry
of Education, Alan McGregor Reed, who contacted me over the
weekend and wanted a call, which was really really good
that they were reaching out to see if they could
have a chat, which they did, and I've spoken to
her probably three or four times since the announcement went
back out. But I guess what was a very bad
decision in the first instance, but it's turned around and
(14:38):
it's probably out of some bads come some good. But
what it did demonstrate Jamie is I don't know that
we've got a good voice into those places like the
Ministry of Education. We've got a lot of people doing
a lot of stuff, but we're fragmented and they were
really keen to talk to us, and so I think
we've now set up a better communication platform. So let's
hope that doesn't happen again. In fact of anything, hope
(15:00):
that we can leverage it and even get a better
position out of.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
It now, remind me, carry Ellen, she it's a she,
isn't it?
Speaker 5 (15:08):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Yeah, okay, And isn't she in charge of egg and St. Paul's.
So Peter's helped me out here. Yeah and Paul's yep, yeah,
Well that's I mean, there's some schools around the country.
Saint Paul's is one, a Mount Albert Graham is another,
Fielding yet another. The schools that are really doing a
great job on egg and schools around the country up.
Speaker 6 (15:31):
And down the country. Now, Jamie, there are I've been
speaking at a couple of the schools here in the wire,
but at their assemblies about I guess they asked me
to come and talk about my journey and how agriculture.
Agriculture has served me throughout my career. And you know,
I get so many of the young guys and girls
coming up afterwards who are just so keen to get
into it and they just need to know more about it.
(15:52):
And even from our little toddlers at five, they need
to know where their food comes from, so that they
know where milk comes from, where their meat comes from.
We need to be teaching it at a very very
early age because I think we're losing a lot of that.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
You are the founder or you were the founder of
the Zander MacDonald Awards. Next week they awards are going
to be inducted into the Australian Stockman Hall of Fame.
That must be a very proud moment for you.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
Yeah, Jamie, that is eleven years old our award, and
you know and Xander it was a well known figure
in Australia, but certainly in Queensland and long Reach being
in queens And it's a really special place. And they
reached out and asked if we could have the trophy,
the bronze trophy that I had made eleven years ago
inducted and inducted into there. So we're going up to
(16:41):
an event up there, Donald, Chris, that's sound as Mum
and dad and Julie so Ander's wife will be there.
It'll be a really really neat occasion. And I guess
it just shows you where that award is now, where
it sits in terms of its prestigious position. It's certainly
in Australia, but also here in New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Excuse my geographical ignorance, long Reach.
Speaker 6 (17:01):
It's a bloody long way west at Brisbane, Jamie, but
it's about three hours in a polatas PC twelve or
two and a half hours, which we're going to be
flying up in because Pilada is one of our key
sponsors for the Xander McDonald Awards, so we won't be
roughing it getting up there.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
I'm sure you won't be. If you're passionate about making
a difference in agriculture in Australia or New Zealand and
your age between twenty one and thirty five years of age,
you can apply for this year's Xander McDonald Awards, which
which will be announced next year. I think your conference
is in christ Church, so entries open for that on
(17:35):
October the first, but you've only got a month.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
Yep. Absolutely, Jamie.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
I would absolutely ask anybody that thinks who's keen to
have a look at it, to go and get on
our website, have a look and apply because it can
be life changing. It has been life changing for those
that have been involved in it, not only the winners
but the finalists.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
You know.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
It absolutely allows you into a network of people right
across Australasia one hundred and fifty of sort of the
movers and shakers in the primary production sector and you
get the key to the door of their farms and
they are very keen to help and support. So it's
an incredible award and one that I'm incredibly proud of and.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
So you should be. Shane mcmanaway, congratulations not only on that,
but also chewing some airs along with a lot of
other key people and ag to get a bit of
about turn on egg in our school curriculum. Long mate,
continue to thrive. Ah here Jamie, and I hope you
get some rain.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
He needs some rain drops falling on his head. It's
what is the time? It is twenty nine after twelve,
you are with the country. I might go and watch
a Robert Redford movie tonight. Just reminiss up next Michelle
with the latest in rural news. I think I think
she's going to talk about another MP in New Zealand.
(18:52):
First MP. Mark Patterson's over in China trying to encourage
sales of war. Good luck to him on that one.
I think One of our guests on tomorrow's show, Peter Newbold,
the head of real estate and livestock for PGG Rights,
and is in China at the moment. Also before the
end of the air, Andrew Murray out of Fonterra. Big
week for Fonterra. Next week it's their annual results. But
(19:14):
in the meantime, we're going to have a look at
last night's Global Dairy Trade auction and Nicola grigg an
he can counselor wants to declare a climate no, not
a climate emergency, a night trade emergency. What next? Okay?
Up next? Rural news and sports news.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
I'm living, gonna stop the rien back and cleaning because
nothing's worrying.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
And just like the guns, welcome back to the country.
Enough rain drops falling on my head. It's pissing down
in South Otago and we don't need it. I think
it is going to clear this afternoon for you folk
in South Otago. I hope I'm right there. That September,
as I said yesterday to Phil Duncan, that's a cruel
mistress of a month where we'll be back with Michelle
(20:14):
in just a tick. But uh no, we won't be
back with We will be back with Michelle and just
a tick. Bear with me, double double I've double loaded myself.
Only Michelle knows the mistake I've made. You people out
there are totally unaware of it. Let's have a look
(20:34):
at Rural News.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
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Speaker 8 (20:45):
The Minister will meet with k we Will businesses operating
in China and discuss ways to grow both countries will sectors.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
He also.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Which minister I've you said? The Minister's are you talking about?
Mark Patterson?
Speaker 8 (21:01):
I just went into absolute talking about mistakes, just went
into complete autopilot mode. Associate Agricultural Minister Mark Patterson is
in China.
Speaker 7 (21:08):
There we go.
Speaker 8 (21:09):
So China is New Zigan's largest wall market was one
hundred and seventy six million of the four hundred and
forty six million in total war exports going there in
the year to June. The Minister will meet with Kiwi
Wal businesses operating in China and discuss ways to grow
both countries at War Sectors. Patterson says the coalition government
is focused on boosting exports and delivering more value to
(21:30):
farmers and manufacturers. And you'll be in Shanghai and Nanjing
until September twenty first.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Okay, I'm just trying to load my rural news. I'm
just trying to load sports news. It's spitting me out.
But no, it has just the right So here we go.
Better late than never sport with AFCO.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Visit them online at AFCO dot co dot NZ.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
All Blacks half back Camroyguard will make his return from
a foot injury this weekend for Counties Monaco and their
NPC game against Auckland. We need him, don't we. New
Zealand cricket coach Rob Walter is relishing the impact past
bowler Ben Sears could offer a next month's home T
twenty series against Australia. The twenty seven year old returns
(22:14):
to the fold after missing the tour of Zimbabwe with
a side strain. So there you go. That's the sports
news for you. A more in depth bulletin for you
at the top of the hour one o'clock on News
Talk z'b up. Next, we're going to have a look
at last night's global dairy trade auction better than expected
with Fonterra's Andrew Murray. Another global dairy trade auction overnight
(22:43):
and all things considered, including the futures market and the
pulse auction, this was not a bad result to tell
us a bit more about it and preview next week's
annual results meeting. CFO Chief Financial Officer Andrew Murray. Do
you concur with my bag magnificent summary of the auction?
Speaker 9 (23:02):
It was certainly a magnificant summary, Jamie. Yeah, Look, I
think that's fatty much what we think too. Certainly a
little better than the derivative markets were indicating. So not
about results all up.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
There was a worry that battle was going to take
a bit of a tumble, but it hasn't.
Speaker 9 (23:17):
No, No, it actually stayed relatively relatively robust if you
think about it. A lot of strong bidding from China
last night. I think that really just helped to keep
this price supported. But we've got to be clear though,
there's there's a lot of international supply around. You know,
look at europe prices now they're actually trading below US,
which is a big reversal on the past couple of months.
So there's a lot of international supply. So it was
(23:39):
nice to see it, but I think definitely some pressure
on that.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Why is there such a difference between our butter price
and the spot price in the US?
Speaker 9 (23:48):
Yeah, the US is added a bit of a has
been at a bit of a discount. They've just got
a lot of suppliers there at the moment, they've had
quite a significant increase in production and that's been accelerating
over the say, the last few months, so to start
to produce a lot more and it's over stripping domestic consumption.
So know that that basically makes it available for export.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
So zero point eight fall across the board on the index.
Whole milk powder down as zero point eight percent, skim
milk powder just zero point three percent, other small drops.
But cheese went against the tide, up two point two percent.
Why is that?
Speaker 9 (24:25):
Yeah, it certainly did. Actually, so sort of you know,
I said, bucking the trend as we would say, really
strong demand from Middle East and again from China actually,
so you know, good robust demand, kind of left out
pacing in langes where the European pacing is US A
PI obviously being a little bit less expensive than that. Again,
so images of building and I think we will see
(24:45):
a little bit more competition in this market, certainly in
the near town.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Big week next week on Monday, we get an insight
into August milk collections the Decans Reporter. This is all
the dairy companies reporting their collections, and August was pretty good,
but for a lot of the country's September has been
a bit of a slow and cold and wet and
windy month.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (25:07):
Yeah, certainly seeing itself and a little bit bit a
little bit obviously July was sort of record production. I
think August held pretty well, but certainly seeing it come
off a little bit.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
No.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Yeah, on Thursday, you've got your full year update. You'll
announce not only your annual results, but more interestingly for
someone like me anyhow, how that final milk price. But
it's pretty much locked and loaded at ten dollars fifteen.
Speaker 9 (25:30):
Yeah, look, I mean we're really comfortable with what we
put out in terms of that milk price forecast. Obviously
I can't tell you anything that I'm going to tell
you next Thursday, but you know, we're really happy with
with with we're landing for the year and looking forward
actually to getting on the road with the farmers the
next week, you know, the road shows starting the week
at the twenty ninth, So really good opportunity to just
(25:51):
talk about how you know, the corpus performing. And of
course I'm sure there were a lot of questions about
the divestment as well.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
So what's the farmer feedback you're getting. It seems like
it's going to be a done deal.
Speaker 9 (26:04):
Oh look, I mean I think it's I think it's
generally positive. Although you know, there is a lot of
requests for more information. People want to learn a little
bit more about it, and I think more about what
does the co op look like afterwards, and so that's
what we'll be We're spending a lot of our time
on when we're on the road just having those conversations
about you know, what's the strength of the co op
when you go forwards and we're pretty clear on that,
(26:24):
but you know, to good to get that message out.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Andrew Murray, good luck for next week. Thanks for your
time today on the country.
Speaker 9 (26:31):
Cheers, Damien, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Nineteen A wave from one up Next. Nicola Gregg got
a text from this morning. I need to be on
your show, she said. I said, I've already got one
that on, don't really want too, but she said, no,
it's an emergency. It's a night trade emergency in Canterbury.
Nicola Gregg up next, Acting Minister of Agriculture and Minister
of Horticulture. No, just when you thought things couldn't get worse.
(27:02):
Toy Can one of the counselors wants to declare a
nitrate emergency. To discuss this emergency, Acting agg Minister and
Minister of Horticulture and proud Cantabrian Nicola Gregg. What's in
the water up there, Nicola, That's probably a dumb question.
Speaker 7 (27:19):
Well, all sorts of very good things are in the water,
but you know it has to be acknowledged there are
nitrates in our water. There has been historical bad practice,
you know, in over thirty years. But what I would
say is is every single farm across Canterbury that I
know of are going to the ends of the earth
to employ really really high, world class standards of environmental
(27:41):
practice and are going beyond what they need to do
to be cleaning up our waterways. And I think attacks
like this serve no purpose, They have no legal standing,
They are simply inflammatory and are doing nothing but pitch
that urban, you know, urban against rural once again, right
(28:02):
when things were starting to settle down and look really
really good.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
But this is just one environment Canterbury counselor grand standing
ahead of the local body elections. Or is this the
view or is this the view of can across.
Speaker 7 (28:15):
The board as it transpires, I understand she's actually not
standing again, So I don't understand why she would feel
the need to cause such consternation and angst again amongst
the rural Canterbury community when, as I say, it will
(28:35):
serve no purpose. This declaration has no legal effect.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
You would have caught up with David Clark's story. We
covered it earlier in the week on the show here
just roadblock after the roadblock, the blog's going to have
to spend fifty grand just to stay consented for farming.
Speaker 7 (28:52):
Yeah, and it's again, it's just napsic nonsense. I know
David very well. Our family farm is very close to
his farm as well, and I would rate David as
one of the best farmers in New Zealand. And it
just goes to show that if he can't meet requirements
and expectations then they are simply out of touch. And
this is why as the government, we are working so
hard and fast to try and rewrite the RMA, which
(29:15):
will be legislated for by next year, which is going
to shift the dial on rules around land use consents,
water use consents, all of that kind of thing. Where
you know, it's the premise of an RMA consent will
be to say yes as opposed to say no. It
will be to consider the positive effects on the environment
(29:37):
as opposed to the negative effects. So we're really going
to turn this thing on its head and enable our
most productive economy in the country to get on with
doing what it does best, and that is farming.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Shane Jones wants rid of regional councils. Has he got
merit in that argument?
Speaker 7 (29:53):
Well, if you're sitting in Canterbury today, you'd probably agree
with him, wouldn't you.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
And you know what's going on down on Southland there
farmers getting all sorts of invoices for activities when they've
done effectively nothing wrong.
Speaker 7 (30:05):
Yes, and you could say the same for the West Coast,
at the North Island, around Kapati, all those areas there
are we have. You know, I've got a pile of
examples from farmers across New Zealand which are just buttoning
up against regional councils and their interpretation of rules. It
seems to me to be overly zealous at times quite pernicious,
and we've really got to come back to the facts here,
(30:28):
you know, if you talk to one of the councilors
on he can one of the you know, I think
the more sensible counselors, he would tell you that this
particular example in Canterbury, they're using wells that are known
to be in high night trait spots. They're the same
wells showing the same levels for the past thirty five
years in Canterbury. This is not new, it's a well
(30:48):
documented legacy issue. Equally, I hear people you know throwing
up concern about the potential for bowel cancer to be
caused by natrix and water. Well, that's, you know, it's
a very valid gene concerned to have. But look to
Bowcanser in New Zealand. Look to their website itself states
that night trates and water are quote highly unlikely to
increase the risk of bow cancer in New Zealand. I
(31:11):
hear people, you know talking about blue baby syndrome being coursed, Well,
it is very very rare. There has been two hospitalizations
in the whole country between twenty twelve and twenty one
of babies and neither could conclude the symptoms were caused
by night trates. So we've got to be very clear
on the facts here before the hysteria starts up. And
(31:31):
I would say this hysteria has been stoked along by
irresponsible representatives on regional councils.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Nichola, Greg just check on your horticulture Minister's hat. Industry
is largely doing very, very well. I do have to
feel for the avocado growers. They always seem to be
up against it, and yesterday we heard news around Bay
are plenty of avocado crops being smashed by the high winds.
She's a tough business growing anything.
Speaker 7 (31:58):
Yeah, yeah, it is. And you know, and you'd say
that for farming across the board. If you haven't got
regional councils editating against you, you've got the weather. Well,
you know, we can try and do something about one,
but we can't quite do much about the other. But look,
I really do feel for those growers. Wind is no
good for avocados. That causes rub that, you know, it
makes them look far less desirable when they're on the
(32:19):
shop shelves, and that is very unfortunate for them. But
I'm afraid we can't We can't help with the weather.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Jamie Nikola, you'd be a millennial, wouldn't you.
Speaker 7 (32:27):
I doubt it.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
What year were you born?
Speaker 7 (32:30):
Oh, Damie, that's a personal question, but nineteen eighty. I'm
a child of the eighties.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Oh well, your generation X. You've just missed out on
being a millennial. Sorry, and I didn't want to ask
a lady her aged Nicholas, but I was. I was
just thinking, you know, millennial smashed avocado on toast, but
you've missed that by one year.
Speaker 7 (32:51):
I have, I have. I'm probably still making an eggs
on toast kind of girl.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Good on you. Thanks for your time today, Thank you,
Thank you. So it is twenty it's nine away from one.
You're with The Country up next, walking proof of what
nitrates and water can do for you. Jeremy Rook's out
of Canterbury. I'll leave it at that now before I go.
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Speaker 2 (34:24):
Ups fallen on my head.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Okay, wrapping the Country, got some time to fill Walking
proof what nitrates in water can do to your Jeremy Rooks,
our lifestyle correspondent out of Canterbury, Gee, I hope Otargo
can win the shield. Just before we go to Jeremy,
here's some of your texts, Jamie. Last week it was
Mike Joy. This week it's e can An Environment Southland.
The assault is never ending farming is already hard enough.
(34:49):
Regards Stephen, I agree with you, Stephen E can an
environment Southland need to stay in their lane. What do
you reckon Jeremy Rooks.
Speaker 10 (34:58):
Well, you can say that un till they're blue in
the face. But the reality is that depending on the
political persuasion of either counselors or staff, they can either
be pragmatic or interpret the legislation to the letter of
the law. And so what Whilst they've been very very
difficult to David Clark who's got all the headlines and
(35:19):
got on them for making it a public issue now,
but the thing is they are only interpreting the law
and like it or not, that's how some people roll
because no one will put their hands up and go
and the staff and go that's ridiculous. It's not going
to work because they don't come out and if they're
left leaning Greenies, they love it to make it hard.
(35:39):
So the buck stops for central government, not eken.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Do you think Shane Jones is onto it We just
get rid of regional councils and have unitary authorities.
Speaker 10 (35:49):
Oh maybe, But the reality is it's all about what's
written in the law. You know, you know it's all
very well. Politicians grandstanding in national will just start ap
piling into the last two days because they see there's
a bit of potential rural traction for voting. But this
has been going on for a long time and it's
just been bubbling away like an old stew in the winter.
(36:10):
And suddenly someone's turned up the heat in the former
David Clark, and he's made the public in all of
the farming community aware of this insanity that are set
at the highest level.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
This rumor is that Canterbury's Robert Redford look alike hobby farmer. Namely,
you did you declare yourself to look be Robert Redford
look alike? I can't imagine anyone else doing it.
Speaker 10 (36:31):
Well, I'm sureably blonde Jamie and a chiseled jaw, and
that jaw was hiding under five genes. But certainly some
of the some of my mother's friends have referred to
me to Robert Rookford at times.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Oh stop it now. There's also nasty rumors doing the
rounds that you were actually on the tools this week
you did today's tailing. How did you handle that?
Speaker 10 (36:53):
Oh God, you realize how weak and unsit you are
when you sort of become a lifestyle. I was nearly dead,
probably pick up about five hundred lambs and chop the
tails of another five hundred, and I was absolutely done
by the end of it. I can tell you, yes, horrible.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
What were the lambing percentages like on the farm you
were tailing on?
Speaker 10 (37:11):
Ah, they're all twins now.
Speaker 5 (37:13):
They were good. They were good.
Speaker 10 (37:14):
They were headwaters lambs and very very good lambs. And
I mean, I mean the lambs are going like hell
because it's been pretty good conditions. You know, it's getting
hot and dry, so lambs doing really well at the minute.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Well, we talked to Shane mcmaanawey, he's looking for rain
and the Wira rapper I know, basically from North Otago
up you're looking for rain.
Speaker 10 (37:33):
Well, it's twenty four degrees as we speak, and it's
blowing the proverb hills, you know. I think we mean
to get like fifteen mills the soufternoon, which would be good.
But I mean that's just what happens in the spring, Jamie.
The wind blows and it gets right.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
So yeah, yeah, September is the worst weather month of
the year. Hey, Jeremy, thanks for filling and its short notice,
and I was just joking that you were walking proof
of what can happen if nitrates get into the water system.
That's us done and dust and we'll be back with
Shane Jones tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
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