September 17, 2025 • 36 mins
Jamie Mackay talks to Shane Jones, Simon Beamish, Peter Newbold, and Chris Russell.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's The Country
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
It's a waste of plan O, the red Wine, Summer.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
And half Good Afternoon, New Zealand. Welcome to the Country.
I'm Jamie MacKaye. The show is brought to you by Bratt.
No time to waste because we've got to get into
our first guest. But the big news story this morning. Gee,
this is a shocker. New Zealand's GDP falling by zero
point nine percent the June quarter, a reduction well over
market expectations. We were expecting a zero point four percent
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decline and GDP Reserve Bank I don't think they could
pick their no's, to be perfectly honest, they were picking
a zero point three percent drop. The worse than expected
outcome could mean the Reserve Bank will cut its official
cash rate more aggressively than previously thought, so said the economist. Look,
surely this is the kick in the pants the Reserve
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Bank needs. This is just my opinion to drop the
ocr by fifty basis points at the next review period
because the economy is in real trouble. We've now GDP
has now fallen in three of the last five quarters.
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On the show today, Shane Jones to kick it off
Simon Beemersh. I'm hoping to catch up with the winner
of the twenty twenty four East Coast Balance Farm and
Environment Awards. Him and his wife Josie have also parented
Simon and not Simon vs. Simon's the dad. Let's try Jordie.
So we're trying to get a hold of him in Japan.
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I've been trying for a couple of days. He texted
me and said he's available. We're all over the place
today because we are heading to China where we find
Peter Nubold GMFPGG rights and livestock and real estate. We'll
find out what he's doing over there and how much
your farm is worth this month. And our Rosie correspondent
on a Thursday is Chris Russell, who's looking enviously at
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the UK as flattery gets you everywhere with the US President,
King Charles doing a good job of buttering up and
flattering Donald Trump. It's all on the show today, but
we're going to kick it off with the Prince of
the Provinces a bit of CCR at the behest of
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our first guest on the show today, Shane Jones, big
credence fan. Good afternoon, Shane.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Hey, greeting's folks all the way from Wellingtown.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Now you are officially the New Zealand first Deputy leader.
I never realized that you weren't in that position. Why
did you make a song and dance about your appointment? Oh?
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Well, Winston wanted to formalize it, and well it stopped
people comparing me to Prince Charles waiting anxiously on the
edge of the sofa. What's going to happen to Queen Elizabeth?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
See, I've got a conspiracy theory, Shane. See, I reckon.
Winston had Stuart n Ash lined up for the position,
but he's sort of sullied the old copy Bowie. But
now he's got to go with you. That'll get a bite.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Well, him and I work a hand in Club Winston.
It was Stewie while he made a range of foolish
remarks that Wodston's already had to say about that. But
then having said that, he's not the only bloke to
have shot his mouth off on the wrong way.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
In terms of Stuart Nash, personally. I like the bloke.
I think he's a straight up and down sort of politician.
Really stupid remark. I'm sure he regrets it immensely. Has
he still got a future in New Zealand?
Speaker 5 (04:29):
First?
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Yeah, well he's obviously got to go through the process
and as our vote potential rises, you've got to maintain
a good stable of candidates, a bit of experience, a
bit of obviously vigor and fresh blood. I mean, we
don't want to be like the Green Party down to
number nineteen on the list in order to maintain their
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muster in Parliament. Of course we wouldn't have the range
of ferals that they've attracted. But no doubt Shoe is
still Can there be a process there? And look, he's
got redeemable qualities.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Talk to me about the Canterbury Regional Council declaring a
nitrate emergency. They voted yesterday nine to seven in favor
of declaring this emergency. What do you say about.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
That the Regional Council of Canterbury have corrupted democracy? The
person who moved that motion is not even standing to
be a candidate again. Such a profound motion should never
have been tolerated, given that they are in their death
throes as a body of duly elected officials, and if
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I have my way, there will be no regional council.
They will cease to exist. And if you ever needed
evidence about how woke riddle virtue signaling randoms are driving
economic pain and hardship onto cockies and the productive sector,
looked no further than this woman's Southgate who moved that motion,
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I'm advised and it was supported just to enable christ
Church's version of Jaffers to try and increase their appeal
in the voting public. I think it's bad. I think
it's dangerous and it has no impact on New Zealand
first in terms of them impressing us. We're going ahead
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with the remit that we passed. There will be no
regional councils after the next election.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
You might get some support in Canterbury for that also
South when they're not too happy down there either.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
But I reckon the best days of your council down
there in the Canterbury area. It was when they had
no elected members and a lot of things got done
under the redoubtable Margaret Baisley. And look, we've had other
models in the past. I mean the Labor Party introduced
a model where a lot of the health boards were
a mix of elected people but very technically proficient people
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appointed by the minister. And what's happened with a lot
of the regional councils. They've turned into a platform for
vanity projects. They've turned into a platform where a narrow
cast of people with weak accountability are imposing not only
their costs but the most extreme interpretations of environmental nature
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onto the god fearing men and women trying to make
a living out of our legacy industry. So it's just
not sustainable. They've long since moved away from pragmatic stop
bank management. Can't even dig gravel out of a road
for a road out of a river, and of course
what do echoes covered with gravel and rocks because people
wouldn't allow those rivers to be dug up. It's madness.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Good to see you going into bat for the farmers,
Seane Jones. You are, of course the Minister of Fisheries
as well. Have you hung the fishermen fisher people of
just to be politically We're woken correct of Otago out
to dry with your overnight blanket ban on set net
fishing on the Otago coast. This is a multimillion dollar business.
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You are protecting the yellow eyed penguins, which is laudable,
But what makes them more important than hectors, dolphins, skinks,
lizards or blind frogs.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Well, there is a lady down there, Chanel Gardner, I
think her name is, and she released a press statement
on behalf of the fishing industry in and around Otago,
encouraging and almost pleading with the government to introduce a
set of measures. That brought us some time to come
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up with a permanent set of remedies which may or
may not be a closure. But because it's the nesting
time and there is a sense that fishing is imperiling
the remains population. But I have to say it is
a difficult decision, and I'm conscious that there are some
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families down there. But at the same time there is
a small matter of social license, and we pushed a
great deal of accent an emphasis on the fact that
the phishing leader of that area released a press statement
saying it was a good idea.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Three hundred and eighty reported hiho Ur yellow eyed penguin
deaths are since twenty twenty. Of the three hundred and
eighty reported deaths and this is from the Official Information
Act twelve have been by set Net. I'm hearing Shane
Jones that the main reason for the decline and the population,
and it is a bit of a perilous decline, is
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due to disease and predation.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Yeah, without a doubt, the chicks do suffer various physical
afflictions because they're being picked up and pick into the
Dunedin Bird Hospital. I'm quite sure how that works. And
there are other diseases that are afflicting them and we
are working on a long term mitigation strategy will Dockers.
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But look, I'd just say often to do a great good,
you have to do a little wrong. And I accept
it in the minds of the local fishes it was
the wrong thing to do, but they wouldn't want to
be branded either unnecessarily as having a disproportionately large impact
on this fragile population. But don't fret. There's no suggestion
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that it's going to permanently remain. We've bought ourselves some time.
It's different from Marwi's dolphin because there is no Marwi's dolphin.
There's no such thing in the skinks And it looked
every time a cocky plows up a paddic for barley
or whatever they do down the South Island. There's lots
of skinks who run away or hide so they avoid
the tractor tire. And it's only my beloved mining industry
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that gets penalized.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
What about the blind frogs. Wouldn't you be unlucky if
you were a block bind frog? And I don't know
McCrae's flat or somewhere up there where they're doing mining,
and you couldn't get out of the way of the
heavy machinery.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
And the blind frog is located in Paramandal two hundred
meters above the location of the underground tunnels needed for
mining gold. And what the greenies are telling me is
that when they detonate to expand the tunnel and extract
the gold and various other properties that might be found
under the earth trembles, the earth quivers and it could interfere,
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i'm told, with the mating habits of the blind frog. Well,
you know when I went to Saint Stephen's school, when
the earth moved, it had a different meaning.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
I'm sure it did. Well, thank you very much for
your time. We're going to go out with the webit
of CCR and fortunate son. That probably describes you now
because Winston has officially anointed you.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
And I'm very appreciative of the recognition and I'll get
on with the mate, Thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Eighteen I make that nineteen after twelve The Prince of
the Province's Martua Shane Jones. Some of you are impressed,
others are less impressed. Does Shane Jones have anything other
than buzzwords? Says Cam woke this vanity that he's Winny,
but without the charm or even the action. Classic case
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of a bloke who loves the sound of his own voice.
That is from Cam. You can send them your feedback
on five nine. Interesting feedback here and I've got to
take the text his or her word. The chair of
ECN Environment Canterbury, Craig Pauling, isn't restanding but is looking
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at standing in the next general election for the Green Party.
Maybe that explains what's going on. It's e can someone else,
says Jamie get a rocket up the Prince. There's no
climbing out of this economic hole without relying liable and
reasonably priced energy ie oil, gas and local coal. Anything
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else is make believe, says Stephen Well. To be fair
to the Prince of the Province of the Provinces, Stephen,
he is a bit of a champion, isn't he? For
mining news and burning New Zealand coal. Can't get enough
of it. And another Texter says when in reference to that,
it is really shocking news that our GDP went down
by zero point nine in the Dune quarter. Someone says,
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you're coming in thick and fast. I'm losing this on
my page, says zero point five percent, cut and cut again.
I don't know about another cut beyond the zero point five,
but I reckon the Reserve Bank after this surely has
to go and they have to knock it by fifty
basis points. I'll just look up during the break where
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when our next OCR announcement is. But the Reserve Bank
got this horribly wrong now, Shane Jones, he's the stupid
an idiot, says one texter. Another one says, go Shane.
I hope he can get rid of the regional councils
from Rob Jackie loves Shane Jones. You're all coming in
thick and fast. More of your feedback later, but I'm
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heading to Japan hopefully after the break because I've teed
up a bloke I've been trying to get for the
past couple of days. Simon Beamish, well known hawks By Farmer.
The Beamish family won the twenty twenty four East Coast
Base Balance Farm Environment Awards. But they've also got a
son and a brother who is a world champion. We're
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going to talk to Simon Beamish about his son, Jordie.
Next on the Country John. He's been on the case
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of this floke for a couple of days. We finally
got colms into Japan, Tokyo, no Less where we find
Simon Beamish, well known hawks Bay Farmer. Of course these
days more famous Simon for being the father of Jeordi Beamish,
who won the World championship three thousand meters steeple chase.
How great was that for you as a parent along
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with your wife Josie sitting in the stadium watching that.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
Well, it was pretty amazing and the memory of a
lifetime or an experience, that's for sure. We didn't actually
realize that, but we were front row with about eighty
meters to go and on reflection, couldn't have been in
their better spot. Really, did you think.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
He had it? In him because the bloke, the Moroccan
bloke al Bakhali, has basically been untouchable in this event.
He shot out unto the lead and we know Jordie's
got a brilliant kick finish, but did you think he
could pull that much?
Speaker 6 (16:00):
Well, Albert Kaylee, he's got He's had such good form
and consistent form over a long period of time. He's
it seemed like he was unbeatable. And then there's Gurma
who is never far behind. In fact, I think he
may even have the world record. So you know, a
couple of Africans there and the finish line I think
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six Africans and one Kiwi, So they're a formidable continent
to try and get ahead off, that's for sure. And
if Jordan was a parabridge, you would never put any
money on him, that's for sure, because it is pretty unpredictable.
He likes languishing out the back and it's quite a
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ride watching them try and get to the front. That's
for sure.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
My favorite sporting moment of the year thus far as
Jeordy Beamish winning that race and it was great to
see Hamish Kurr as well. Two Kiwis on the top
of the podium in Tokyo. Was it true that the
Moroccan Alba Kali didn't even know Jordie's name. That seems
a bit arrogant.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
If that was the case, Well, that's hard to believe.
And I don't know whether that was just one report,
one person's opinion. It's a pretty small community. You know,
you could throw you could throw a rug over the
staple chasers that turned up to Heatsworth. It's hard to
believe that someone of that caliber doesn't do a little
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bit of planning before. Yeah, so I'm not honestly, I
honestly don't know, but it kind of looked a bit
like it. Maybe have you.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Booked anually from the Hawk's Bay Farm for l A
and when is it twenty twenty eight?
Speaker 6 (17:44):
Well, we all turned up to Paris and that was that.
That didn't go according to plan, And I guess testament
to Jordie's resilience. He was pretty banged up, injured and
leading ups of Paris, but he had been going so well,
and you know, there's always expectations, but you know it's
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probably unfinished business for him. But these athletes, they just
live on a nice edge and you have to be
competitive on the day. You know, not only do all
the stars have to align, but you've got to be
in amazing shape to be competitive. And yeah, we'll just
take this win and enjoy it while we can.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
What is he something like twenty eight years of age,
late twenties. When does a steeple chaser peak age wise?
I mean, we know that sprinters start to slow down
obviously once they're in their thirties, unless you're heading to
the enhanced Games, But what about steeplechasers. That's an endurance event.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
There's a bit of research I haven't done, Jamie.
Speaker 7 (18:51):
To be fair, I'm more of a farmer than a
sports than a sports nate when it comes to to
staable chasing.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
But I imagine, Well, it was one of the on
guys said yesterday at the headquarters. They think he's he's
just maybe peeking in the next couple of years. I
saw in the Jason Ross actually his sort of chiropractice
physio and Jason Georgie's body has been the biggest challenge
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he's come across, and he was saying, I'm getting to
the bottom of it. I'm getting more and more confident
working with his body. So maybe we've got another year
or two left to be on the sideline and support him.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
I reckon he'd damn handy when he comes back to
the Hawks Boy farm. You can send him out to
go around the sheep and he wouldn't have to open
the gates, just leap the fence.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
Maybe he's tripped up and rolled down a few of
those hills on our by more than we think, because
he certainly managed that role pretty well in recovery on
a Saturday night.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Absolutely fantastic. Just before I let you go, how are
things on the Hawks Boy Farm. I know you've taken
a brief break and you'll be heading back there. I
understand you're getting a wee bit dry.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
Yeah, yeah, you go and put a holding the fort
there and the rest of the team. Thank you very much.
We've had actually reasonable rain up against the Rangers forty
five meals this month. Some of that has been sideways
by the look of it, So a yeah, bit of
a roller coaster. That's farming, isn't it? Weather wise and
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everything else? But hopefully if it's blown and wild now,
it might be Carmen October and a bit easier on
the farm.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Simon Beamish out of Tokyo. Thank you very much for
your time. The whole country is so proud of your son, Jordy.
What a finish, What a moment in New Zealand's sporting history.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
Yeah, I love it to be part of it. Thank
you for the call.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Jamiens, thank you, Simon Proud Mary. Yep, We're definitely proud
of Jordy, no doubt about that. What a great story.
Some of your feedback. The boss of Ecan is standing
for the Greens because he sees the writing on the
wall for regional councils. Well, certainly if the Prince of
the Province gets his way, it might be curtains for
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the regional councils. Is someone else putting a rocket up Shame?
Maybe if Shame wants to do something about the gravel
and the Motueka River, he could look at the at
the conservation order that central government put in place that
local government use as an excuse. Hit your feedback coming
in on five double nine ur text line the easiest
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way to get a hold of us up next Rural News.
I think we've got something on the Alliance Group. Yes, no,
she's making a mind up. She's got a commercial break
to decide what's in rural news, and I'm going to
have a look at sports news. My favorite rugby player,
George is not playing in the semi final, but what's
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her injury before the end of there. Peter Neubolt, we're
all over the place today. He's in Chaina and Chris
Russell are Australian correspondent. Is in Australia. Surprisingly right twenty
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six away from one. You're with the country. Thank you
brand for making it possible. Here's Michelle with the latest
and the auroral News.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
The country's world news with cop Cadet, New Zealand's leading
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dot nz for your local stockist.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
And this was announced yesterday. The government has delivered a
key election commitment with the passing of the Climate Change
Response Emissions Trading Scheme Forestry Conversions Amendment Bill. Ministry of
Agriculture and Forestry Tom McClay and Minister of Climate Change
Simon Watts of course announced this yesterday and there's some
key changes to the bill. I won't riddle them all
off because it's quite a few. You're able to find
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a full story on the Herald or at the country
dot code dot nz it at some point, but we
tried to get hold of Tod but I think he
still might be overseas somewhere.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Yeah, I think he's doing God's work on the trade front.
We'll get him when he gets back sport.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
We're the AVCO Kiwi to the bone since nineteen oh four.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
B Hey Demand will become the third Black Fern to
play fifty Tests and Saturday's World Cup semi final against
Canada at Bristol the first five or Co captain the side,
alongside Kennedy Tukuafu, who has been promoted to start at
open side Flanka due to Georgia Miller's unspecified injury. I
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wonder what's wrong with Georgia. What a shame she's not playing.
But the good news on the footy front is cam
Roygard now he shared his frustration over missing the past
two months with a right foot fracture. The All Blacks
halfback will return for Counties Monaco in their MBSs match
against Auckland at Pokakoee Stadium on Saturday. And we mentioned this,
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I think with yes, I did mention it when I
was yearning to Simon Beemer two time Olympic one hundred
meter medalist Fred Curley is the first track athlete to
openly commit to next May's Enhanced Games in Las Vegas.
The event permits competitors to take band drugs under medical supervision.
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This is going to be an absolute freak show. And
I think they're tossing out huge money. If Fred Curley
very capable s sprinter, obviously, if he's won two Olympic medals,
if he can break Hussain Bolts relatively long standing now
one hundred meters record, I'll tell you what. I won't
be watching the Enhanced Games, but plenty of people will be.
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Their journey around the globe continues up next, we are
off to China with Peter Newbolt heading all over the
planet today. China is where we head right now. There
we find Peter Newbolt, GM of PGG Rights and Livestock
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and real Estate. You're on a velvet trip, Peter, and
you're heading to Korea as well. Do you find, like
I do, China to be perhaps the most fascinating country
on the planet.
Speaker 8 (25:15):
Oh yeah, it's amazing country and I don't think until
you've been there you quite appreciate the size what goes
on how quickly they are to do things, the infrastructure,
the people. Yeah, and it's just an amazing country.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
We could definitely learn from China about getting for want
of a better words, shit done. Can I say that,
I've already said it, but they do. They just get
on with it and they build bridges and roads literally overnight.
Speaker 8 (25:41):
Yeah, and it's incredible and I think you look at
everywhere you go, you can see where they've made solid
investments and I think it's paying off.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
What are you doing over there?
Speaker 8 (25:52):
Yeah, Look, basically it's to do with our velvet business,
and basically we're meeting existing customers, catching up with a
few new customers. We're sort of reviewing last season, which
we know was challenging, and then just sort of getting
a take on the market to see where it all sits.
So then over the coming weeks we can sort of
present contracts for the upcoming season, which I guess our
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goal is to secure favorable pricing for all the farmers
out there. So that's the base of the trip prior
to coming into the season which is only a couple
of months later.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Am I correct in saying? South Korea is a far
bigger market than China For velvet.
Speaker 8 (26:32):
Yes, it as you correct, and a lot of velvet
that comes into China is then basically re exported to Korea.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
That's your livestock hat. Check on your real estate hat.
Are we seeing promising signs? Is there going to be
a spring flush when it comes to real estate sales?
Speaker 8 (26:51):
Yeah? Look, I think we're going to see some really
good sales right the way up till Christmas. You know,
if you look at all the the listing coming onto
the market, the quality of them, You look at the
returns that sheep and beef and dairy and hoarder getting,
they're really strong, So you know, everything's lined up. I
think the other key thing, which we haven't seen for
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a long time, there's a lot of genuine buyers out there,
and that tells me that things will take place. I
think the critical thing is those that are selling, you know,
they just need to make sure that you know, they're
aware that you know, just because values are high commodity
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price or high rather doesn't mean you can crank up
your price. And I think, you know, I've got to
always just look at the yield.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
There's been a real change, hasn't there over the past
decade or so you know, farms are always a good
bet for a bit of capital gain. Certainly have been
if you look from say the nineteen nineties onwards when
we had the dairy boom. But you look at the
past ten years, My reckoning is there's hardly been any
capital gain and farmers business people are now buying on yield.
Speaker 8 (28:03):
Yeah, definitely, there hasn't been any real gains and we've
looked at that at work, and so I think that's
pretty clear. And as you just mentioned, it's based on yield.
And so look, there's always the odd exception, and they
are the ones that get reported, whether it's a unique
property or a neighbor's boarder or whatever. But in general terms,
the values haven't moved a lot, and I don't think
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they will over the coming months because the purchases aren't
prepared to pay.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Over Monngie, there are some positives there for people wanting
to buy farms. You're going to have lower interest rates
if you're a dairy farmer, for instance. You might be
getting a bit of a helping hand with that potential
three point two billion dollars which is going to find
its way into Fonterra Farmer shareholders and pockets, which I
think that might encourage a bit of another burst on
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dairy farm sales.
Speaker 8 (28:53):
If you look at it, everything is lined up perfectly
at the moment. The only thing we can't guarantee is
the weather coming up. But if you look everything, as
you said, interest rates on farm costs, the returns they're getting,
everything is really positive. So I think that bodes well.
And you know, you talk about the potential Fontier apiece,
I think we're going to see a lot of those
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funds actually disperse between rural sales, you know, reduction and debt,
or a lot may use them for succession. So I
think you're going to see a mixture there, but definitely
we'll see another upside in sales.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Put on your livestock hat again. It's been very very
positive for the industry recent times, especially the red meat industry.
Sheep and beef going really well in terms of returns.
Speaker 6 (29:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (29:43):
Look, it's amazing and you know, some of the people
that have been around in that game for a long
time tell me that they have never seen it in
their lifetime. And you know, if you look ahead and
you listen and read and understand what's going on, it'll
be pretty hard to not so we're going to have
another strong season and you know, let's just hope that
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moves on for a couple more because I think you know,
it's long overdue and a lot of those sheep and
beef farmers need to get a good return for a
couple of years.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Peter Nubold. Safe travels to Korea and then safe travels home.
Speaker 8 (30:17):
Yeah, thanks, Jamie, have a good afternoon.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Well, thank you, Peter. Carter her away from one, you're
with the country up. Next, trip around the globe continues, Japan, China, Australia. Next.
He's our guy in Australia, Chris Russell, but his eyes
are on the mother nation England at the moment, and
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you're looking rather skeptically Chris Russell at the palms sucking
up to Trump.
Speaker 9 (30:49):
I'm looking pretty enviously, to be honest, Jamie, I mean, Fadigham,
they're worth their weight in gold, the Royals for a
few million dollars worth of pomp and ceremony. I see
the headlines in the British papers this morning, Pomp and circumstance,
Pomp and pageantry with us with a purpose, Trump and circumstance.
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Fantastic headlines for a few million dollars with the costs
and some dressed up guards that a coach ride through
when the castle. They've accomplished as much in sucking up
the Trump as what other countries would have to spend
whole percentages of their GDP doing. They're so lucky to
have that, and he obviously falls at it's just like
a big kid, really quite extraordinary. The other good news
(31:33):
for us is that he put in a good word
for Orcus. Now at the moment, the Australia UK US Alliance,
which is doing this submarine project using the Virginia class
submarines for America in the first instance, is under review
in America, and I think it was very useful for
Charles to put into his speech, which is normally fairly apolitical,
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are comments saying how important and innovative that was. And
I hope that will stand us in goodstead, because ALBN
easy over here is not on Trump's Christmas list by
any stretch of the imagination.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
At last, that's your comment recognition that we will need
to adapt to climate change, not just fight it, if
we are to feed the world, and there's a lot
of argument around that these days. Climate change is here
it's here to stay. We just have to adapt to
it well exactly.
Speaker 9 (32:26):
And I've been giving talks all around the countryside to
anyone or listen about how we're spending so much money
on trying to almost reverse Charles Darwin's theory of survival
of the fittest, which means our ability to be fit
in the climate we're given, not our ability to change
the climate to fit us. And yet that seems to
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be where we're putting all of our money into changing
the climate the fit us. Now I'm very skeptical about
whether we'll be successful. Staying away from the argument about
whether that's the key issue, let's assume it is. But
the ability to change the climate something that I think
will elude us. So we need to spend money on
adapting to what I see is inevitable climate change. Almost inevitably,
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we will get one and a half two three degree
increase in temperatures and so on over the next twenty
or thirty years, and we need to adapt to that,
not just try and reverse it. And I see the
latest program which has been brought out by the National
Climate Risk Assessment Group has identified extreme heat shifting, growing
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seasons and supply chains, meaning that we really need to
adapt to those if we're going to secure our future
food supply. Australia currently feeds one hundred million people in
the world, and we need to make sure we're adapted
to be continued to have to produce that amount of
food because at the end of the day, that's the
crucial effect of climate change.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Jomie and who knew Ossie blugs with such romantics.
Speaker 9 (34:00):
Well, that's it. This bloke has really betrayed the brohood
by setting up this proposal down at Henty in New
South Wales. His name is will Henderson and last April
he planted a very special crop of canola using his
GPS air seeding equipment into his wheat crop which said
will you marry me? I think I've said to you
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a pitcher. You can put it up on the website.
But he planted the crop, it didn't get a very
good germination. He had to reseed it. This is five
months work. Then he took his girlfriend up in the
plane and happily it would have been pretty awkward if
she'd said no after all that work, but happily she
said yes. And you can see this aerial shot of
the crop will you marry me? I think the brohood
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are saying, mate, you've just set the bar way too
high for the rest of us, so just move on.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Okay, let's move on. I want to talk about Elon Musk.
This was a story we didn't get to last week.
Speaker 9 (34:58):
Yes, well he's just spent the hell of a lot
of money and one of the big problems in Australia
is of course remote access to the networks and the Internet. Well,
he's just purchased twenty five billion cash and stock that
he's put in to buy the s SPAN spectrum in
the US. That all sounds complicated, but basically, the s
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SPAN is the satellite band which can talk directly to
your mobile phone without requiring dishes or other sort of
translation equipment that you normally associate with satellite phones or
with picking up satellite information in these remote houses. And
he's spent this money, and so where this will probably
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end up where Telsa opts photophone. All those places who
can't reach all these remote areas with their towers will
now be able to hook people's phones directly up to
the satellites through these spectrums just using a phone as
we would round the city so twenty five billion a
lot of money, but I think it was probably the
only way that we were going to overcome one of
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the biggest drawbacks of remote living and remote farming in Australia.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Jamie Chris Russell, thanks for your time.
Speaker 9 (36:09):
No worries, Jamie, how Joe to make.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
And that wraps the country for your Thursday. We'll catch
the same time, same place tomorrow. Thanks for listening, really
appreciate it. Thanks for all your feedback. I love listening
to Shane says one Texter. Drill, Baby, Drill. We'll catch
you tomorrow. Damian O'Connor getting stuck into Palmu on tomorrow's show.
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And half Good Afternoon, New Zealand. Welcome to the Country.
I'm Jamie MacKaye. The show is brought to you by Bratt.
No time to waste because we've got to get into
our first guest. But the big news story this morning. Gee,
this is a shocker. New Zealand's GDP falling by zero
point nine percent the June quarter, a reduction well over
market expectations. We were expecting a zero point four percent
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decline and GDP Reserve Bank I don't think they could
pick their no's, to be perfectly honest, they were picking
a zero point three percent drop. The worse than expected
outcome could mean the Reserve Bank will cut its official
cash rate more aggressively than previously thought, so said the economist. Look,
surely this is the kick in the pants the Reserve
(01:31):
Bank needs. This is just my opinion to drop the
ocr by fifty basis points at the next review period
because the economy is in real trouble. We've now GDP
has now fallen in three of the last five quarters.
(01:51):
On the show today, Shane Jones to kick it off
Simon Beemersh. I'm hoping to catch up with the winner
of the twenty twenty four East Coast Balance Farm and
Environment Awards. Him and his wife Josie have also parented
Simon and not Simon vs. Simon's the dad. Let's try Jordie.
So we're trying to get a hold of him in Japan.
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I've been trying for a couple of days. He texted
me and said he's available. We're all over the place
today because we are heading to China where we find
Peter Nubold GMFPGG rights and livestock and real estate. We'll
find out what he's doing over there and how much
your farm is worth this month. And our Rosie correspondent
on a Thursday is Chris Russell, who's looking enviously at
(02:35):
the UK as flattery gets you everywhere with the US President,
King Charles doing a good job of buttering up and
flattering Donald Trump. It's all on the show today, but
we're going to kick it off with the Prince of
the Provinces a bit of CCR at the behest of
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our first guest on the show today, Shane Jones, big
credence fan. Good afternoon, Shane.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Hey, greeting's folks all the way from Wellingtown.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Now you are officially the New Zealand first Deputy leader.
I never realized that you weren't in that position. Why
did you make a song and dance about your appointment? Oh?
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Well, Winston wanted to formalize it, and well it stopped
people comparing me to Prince Charles waiting anxiously on the
edge of the sofa. What's going to happen to Queen Elizabeth?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
See, I've got a conspiracy theory, Shane. See, I reckon.
Winston had Stuart n Ash lined up for the position,
but he's sort of sullied the old copy Bowie. But
now he's got to go with you. That'll get a bite.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Well, him and I work a hand in Club Winston.
It was Stewie while he made a range of foolish
remarks that Wodston's already had to say about that. But
then having said that, he's not the only bloke to
have shot his mouth off on the wrong way.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
In terms of Stuart Nash, personally. I like the bloke.
I think he's a straight up and down sort of politician.
Really stupid remark. I'm sure he regrets it immensely. Has
he still got a future in New Zealand?
Speaker 5 (04:29):
First?
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Yeah, well he's obviously got to go through the process
and as our vote potential rises, you've got to maintain
a good stable of candidates, a bit of experience, a
bit of obviously vigor and fresh blood. I mean, we
don't want to be like the Green Party down to
number nineteen on the list in order to maintain their
(04:53):
muster in Parliament. Of course we wouldn't have the range
of ferals that they've attracted. But no doubt Shoe is
still Can there be a process there? And look, he's
got redeemable qualities.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Talk to me about the Canterbury Regional Council declaring a
nitrate emergency. They voted yesterday nine to seven in favor
of declaring this emergency. What do you say about.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
That the Regional Council of Canterbury have corrupted democracy? The
person who moved that motion is not even standing to
be a candidate again. Such a profound motion should never
have been tolerated, given that they are in their death
throes as a body of duly elected officials, and if
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I have my way, there will be no regional council.
They will cease to exist. And if you ever needed
evidence about how woke riddle virtue signaling randoms are driving
economic pain and hardship onto cockies and the productive sector,
looked no further than this woman's Southgate who moved that motion,
(06:08):
I'm advised and it was supported just to enable christ
Church's version of Jaffers to try and increase their appeal
in the voting public. I think it's bad. I think
it's dangerous and it has no impact on New Zealand
first in terms of them impressing us. We're going ahead
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with the remit that we passed. There will be no
regional councils after the next election.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
You might get some support in Canterbury for that also
South when they're not too happy down there either.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
But I reckon the best days of your council down
there in the Canterbury area. It was when they had
no elected members and a lot of things got done
under the redoubtable Margaret Baisley. And look, we've had other
models in the past. I mean the Labor Party introduced
a model where a lot of the health boards were
a mix of elected people but very technically proficient people
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appointed by the minister. And what's happened with a lot
of the regional councils. They've turned into a platform for
vanity projects. They've turned into a platform where a narrow
cast of people with weak accountability are imposing not only
their costs but the most extreme interpretations of environmental nature
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onto the god fearing men and women trying to make
a living out of our legacy industry. So it's just
not sustainable. They've long since moved away from pragmatic stop
bank management. Can't even dig gravel out of a road
for a road out of a river, and of course
what do echoes covered with gravel and rocks because people
wouldn't allow those rivers to be dug up. It's madness.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Good to see you going into bat for the farmers,
Seane Jones. You are, of course the Minister of Fisheries
as well. Have you hung the fishermen fisher people of
just to be politically We're woken correct of Otago out
to dry with your overnight blanket ban on set net
fishing on the Otago coast. This is a multimillion dollar business.
(08:12):
You are protecting the yellow eyed penguins, which is laudable,
But what makes them more important than hectors, dolphins, skinks,
lizards or blind frogs.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Well, there is a lady down there, Chanel Gardner, I
think her name is, and she released a press statement
on behalf of the fishing industry in and around Otago,
encouraging and almost pleading with the government to introduce a
set of measures. That brought us some time to come
(08:45):
up with a permanent set of remedies which may or
may not be a closure. But because it's the nesting
time and there is a sense that fishing is imperiling
the remains population. But I have to say it is
a difficult decision, and I'm conscious that there are some
(09:07):
families down there. But at the same time there is
a small matter of social license, and we pushed a
great deal of accent an emphasis on the fact that
the phishing leader of that area released a press statement
saying it was a good idea.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Three hundred and eighty reported hiho Ur yellow eyed penguin
deaths are since twenty twenty. Of the three hundred and
eighty reported deaths and this is from the Official Information
Act twelve have been by set Net. I'm hearing Shane
Jones that the main reason for the decline and the population,
and it is a bit of a perilous decline, is
(09:43):
due to disease and predation.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Yeah, without a doubt, the chicks do suffer various physical
afflictions because they're being picked up and pick into the
Dunedin Bird Hospital. I'm quite sure how that works. And
there are other diseases that are afflicting them and we
are working on a long term mitigation strategy will Dockers.
(10:07):
But look, I'd just say often to do a great good,
you have to do a little wrong. And I accept
it in the minds of the local fishes it was
the wrong thing to do, but they wouldn't want to
be branded either unnecessarily as having a disproportionately large impact
on this fragile population. But don't fret. There's no suggestion
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that it's going to permanently remain. We've bought ourselves some time.
It's different from Marwi's dolphin because there is no Marwi's dolphin.
There's no such thing in the skinks And it looked
every time a cocky plows up a paddic for barley
or whatever they do down the South Island. There's lots
of skinks who run away or hide so they avoid
the tractor tire. And it's only my beloved mining industry
(10:53):
that gets penalized.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
What about the blind frogs. Wouldn't you be unlucky if
you were a block bind frog? And I don't know
McCrae's flat or somewhere up there where they're doing mining,
and you couldn't get out of the way of the
heavy machinery.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
And the blind frog is located in Paramandal two hundred
meters above the location of the underground tunnels needed for
mining gold. And what the greenies are telling me is
that when they detonate to expand the tunnel and extract
the gold and various other properties that might be found
under the earth trembles, the earth quivers and it could interfere,
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i'm told, with the mating habits of the blind frog. Well,
you know when I went to Saint Stephen's school, when
the earth moved, it had a different meaning.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
I'm sure it did. Well, thank you very much for
your time. We're going to go out with the webit
of CCR and fortunate son. That probably describes you now
because Winston has officially anointed you.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
And I'm very appreciative of the recognition and I'll get
on with the mate, Thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Eighteen I make that nineteen after twelve The Prince of
the Province's Martua Shane Jones. Some of you are impressed,
others are less impressed. Does Shane Jones have anything other
than buzzwords? Says Cam woke this vanity that he's Winny,
but without the charm or even the action. Classic case
(12:23):
of a bloke who loves the sound of his own voice.
That is from Cam. You can send them your feedback
on five nine. Interesting feedback here and I've got to
take the text his or her word. The chair of
ECN Environment Canterbury, Craig Pauling, isn't restanding but is looking
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at standing in the next general election for the Green Party.
Maybe that explains what's going on. It's e can someone else,
says Jamie get a rocket up the Prince. There's no
climbing out of this economic hole without relying liable and
reasonably priced energy ie oil, gas and local coal. Anything
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else is make believe, says Stephen Well. To be fair
to the Prince of the Province of the Provinces, Stephen,
he is a bit of a champion, isn't he? For
mining news and burning New Zealand coal. Can't get enough
of it. And another Texter says when in reference to that,
it is really shocking news that our GDP went down
by zero point nine in the Dune quarter. Someone says,
(13:28):
you're coming in thick and fast. I'm losing this on
my page, says zero point five percent, cut and cut again.
I don't know about another cut beyond the zero point five,
but I reckon the Reserve Bank after this surely has
to go and they have to knock it by fifty
basis points. I'll just look up during the break where
(13:50):
when our next OCR announcement is. But the Reserve Bank
got this horribly wrong now, Shane Jones, he's the stupid
an idiot, says one texter. Another one says, go Shane.
I hope he can get rid of the regional councils
from Rob Jackie loves Shane Jones. You're all coming in
thick and fast. More of your feedback later, but I'm
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heading to Japan hopefully after the break because I've teed
up a bloke I've been trying to get for the
past couple of days. Simon Beamish, well known hawks By Farmer.
The Beamish family won the twenty twenty four East Coast
Base Balance Farm Environment Awards. But they've also got a
son and a brother who is a world champion. We're
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going to talk to Simon Beamish about his son, Jordie.
Next on the Country John. He's been on the case
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of this floke for a couple of days. We finally
got colms into Japan, Tokyo, no Less where we find
Simon Beamish, well known hawks Bay Farmer. Of course these
days more famous Simon for being the father of Jeordi Beamish,
who won the World championship three thousand meters steeple chase.
How great was that for you as a parent along
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with your wife Josie sitting in the stadium watching that.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
Well, it was pretty amazing and the memory of a
lifetime or an experience, that's for sure. We didn't actually
realize that, but we were front row with about eighty
meters to go and on reflection, couldn't have been in
their better spot. Really, did you think.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
He had it? In him because the bloke, the Moroccan
bloke al Bakhali, has basically been untouchable in this event.
He shot out unto the lead and we know Jordie's
got a brilliant kick finish, but did you think he
could pull that much?
Speaker 6 (16:00):
Well, Albert Kaylee, he's got He's had such good form
and consistent form over a long period of time. He's
it seemed like he was unbeatable. And then there's Gurma
who is never far behind. In fact, I think he
may even have the world record. So you know, a
couple of Africans there and the finish line I think
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six Africans and one Kiwi, So they're a formidable continent
to try and get ahead off, that's for sure. And
if Jordan was a parabridge, you would never put any
money on him, that's for sure, because it is pretty unpredictable.
He likes languishing out the back and it's quite a
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ride watching them try and get to the front. That's
for sure.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
My favorite sporting moment of the year thus far as
Jeordy Beamish winning that race and it was great to
see Hamish Kurr as well. Two Kiwis on the top
of the podium in Tokyo. Was it true that the
Moroccan Alba Kali didn't even know Jordie's name. That seems
a bit arrogant.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
If that was the case, Well, that's hard to believe.
And I don't know whether that was just one report,
one person's opinion. It's a pretty small community. You know,
you could throw you could throw a rug over the
staple chasers that turned up to Heatsworth. It's hard to
believe that someone of that caliber doesn't do a little
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bit of planning before. Yeah, so I'm not honestly, I
honestly don't know, but it kind of looked a bit
like it. Maybe have you.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Booked anually from the Hawk's Bay Farm for l A
and when is it twenty twenty eight?
Speaker 6 (17:44):
Well, we all turned up to Paris and that was that.
That didn't go according to plan, And I guess testament
to Jordie's resilience. He was pretty banged up, injured and
leading ups of Paris, but he had been going so well,
and you know, there's always expectations, but you know it's
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probably unfinished business for him. But these athletes, they just
live on a nice edge and you have to be
competitive on the day. You know, not only do all
the stars have to align, but you've got to be
in amazing shape to be competitive. And yeah, we'll just
take this win and enjoy it while we can.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
What is he something like twenty eight years of age,
late twenties. When does a steeple chaser peak age wise?
I mean, we know that sprinters start to slow down
obviously once they're in their thirties, unless you're heading to
the enhanced Games, But what about steeplechasers. That's an endurance event.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
There's a bit of research I haven't done, Jamie.
Speaker 7 (18:51):
To be fair, I'm more of a farmer than a
sports than a sports nate when it comes to to
staable chasing.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
But I imagine, Well, it was one of the on
guys said yesterday at the headquarters. They think he's he's
just maybe peeking in the next couple of years. I
saw in the Jason Ross actually his sort of chiropractice
physio and Jason Georgie's body has been the biggest challenge
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he's come across, and he was saying, I'm getting to
the bottom of it. I'm getting more and more confident
working with his body. So maybe we've got another year
or two left to be on the sideline and support him.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
I reckon he'd damn handy when he comes back to
the Hawks Boy farm. You can send him out to
go around the sheep and he wouldn't have to open
the gates, just leap the fence.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
Maybe he's tripped up and rolled down a few of
those hills on our by more than we think, because
he certainly managed that role pretty well in recovery on
a Saturday night.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Absolutely fantastic. Just before I let you go, how are
things on the Hawks Boy Farm. I know you've taken
a brief break and you'll be heading back there. I
understand you're getting a wee bit dry.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
Yeah, yeah, you go and put a holding the fort
there and the rest of the team. Thank you very much.
We've had actually reasonable rain up against the Rangers forty
five meals this month. Some of that has been sideways
by the look of it, So a yeah, bit of
a roller coaster. That's farming, isn't it? Weather wise and
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everything else? But hopefully if it's blown and wild now,
it might be Carmen October and a bit easier on
the farm.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Simon Beamish out of Tokyo. Thank you very much for
your time. The whole country is so proud of your son, Jordy.
What a finish, What a moment in New Zealand's sporting history.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
Yeah, I love it to be part of it. Thank
you for the call.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Jamiens, thank you, Simon Proud Mary. Yep, We're definitely proud
of Jordy, no doubt about that. What a great story.
Some of your feedback. The boss of Ecan is standing
for the Greens because he sees the writing on the
wall for regional councils. Well, certainly if the Prince of
the Province gets his way, it might be curtains for
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the regional councils. Is someone else putting a rocket up Shame?
Maybe if Shame wants to do something about the gravel
and the Motueka River, he could look at the at
the conservation order that central government put in place that
local government use as an excuse. Hit your feedback coming
in on five double nine ur text line the easiest
(21:34):
way to get a hold of us up next Rural News.
I think we've got something on the Alliance Group. Yes, no,
she's making a mind up. She's got a commercial break
to decide what's in rural news, and I'm going to
have a look at sports news. My favorite rugby player,
George is not playing in the semi final, but what's
(21:54):
her injury before the end of there. Peter Neubolt, we're
all over the place today. He's in Chaina and Chris
Russell are Australian correspondent. Is in Australia. Surprisingly right twenty
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six away from one. You're with the country. Thank you
brand for making it possible. Here's Michelle with the latest
and the auroral News.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
The country's world news with cop Cadet, New Zealand's leading
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Speaker 5 (22:34):
And this was announced yesterday. The government has delivered a
key election commitment with the passing of the Climate Change
Response Emissions Trading Scheme Forestry Conversions Amendment Bill. Ministry of
Agriculture and Forestry Tom McClay and Minister of Climate Change
Simon Watts of course announced this yesterday and there's some
key changes to the bill. I won't riddle them all
off because it's quite a few. You're able to find
(22:54):
a full story on the Herald or at the country
dot code dot nz it at some point, but we
tried to get hold of Tod but I think he
still might be overseas somewhere.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Yeah, I think he's doing God's work on the trade front.
We'll get him when he gets back sport.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
We're the AVCO Kiwi to the bone since nineteen oh four.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
B Hey Demand will become the third Black Fern to
play fifty Tests and Saturday's World Cup semi final against
Canada at Bristol the first five or Co captain the side,
alongside Kennedy Tukuafu, who has been promoted to start at
open side Flanka due to Georgia Miller's unspecified injury. I
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wonder what's wrong with Georgia. What a shame she's not playing.
But the good news on the footy front is cam
Roygard now he shared his frustration over missing the past
two months with a right foot fracture. The All Blacks
halfback will return for Counties Monaco in their MBSs match
against Auckland at Pokakoee Stadium on Saturday. And we mentioned this,
(23:55):
I think with yes, I did mention it when I
was yearning to Simon Beemer two time Olympic one hundred
meter medalist Fred Curley is the first track athlete to
openly commit to next May's Enhanced Games in Las Vegas.
The event permits competitors to take band drugs under medical supervision.
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This is going to be an absolute freak show. And
I think they're tossing out huge money. If Fred Curley
very capable s sprinter, obviously, if he's won two Olympic medals,
if he can break Hussain Bolts relatively long standing now
one hundred meters record, I'll tell you what. I won't
be watching the Enhanced Games, but plenty of people will be.
(24:41):
Their journey around the globe continues up next, we are
off to China with Peter Newbolt heading all over the
planet today. China is where we head right now. There
we find Peter Newbolt, GM of PGG Rights and Livestock
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and real Estate. You're on a velvet trip, Peter, and
you're heading to Korea as well. Do you find, like
I do, China to be perhaps the most fascinating country
on the planet.
Speaker 8 (25:15):
Oh yeah, it's amazing country and I don't think until
you've been there you quite appreciate the size what goes
on how quickly they are to do things, the infrastructure,
the people. Yeah, and it's just an amazing country.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
We could definitely learn from China about getting for want
of a better words, shit done. Can I say that,
I've already said it, but they do. They just get
on with it and they build bridges and roads literally overnight.
Speaker 8 (25:41):
Yeah, and it's incredible and I think you look at
everywhere you go, you can see where they've made solid
investments and I think it's paying off.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
What are you doing over there?
Speaker 8 (25:52):
Yeah, Look, basically it's to do with our velvet business,
and basically we're meeting existing customers, catching up with a
few new customers. We're sort of reviewing last season, which
we know was challenging, and then just sort of getting
a take on the market to see where it all sits.
So then over the coming weeks we can sort of
present contracts for the upcoming season, which I guess our
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goal is to secure favorable pricing for all the farmers
out there. So that's the base of the trip prior
to coming into the season which is only a couple
of months later.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Am I correct in saying? South Korea is a far
bigger market than China For velvet.
Speaker 8 (26:32):
Yes, it as you correct, and a lot of velvet
that comes into China is then basically re exported to Korea.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
That's your livestock hat. Check on your real estate hat.
Are we seeing promising signs? Is there going to be
a spring flush when it comes to real estate sales?
Speaker 8 (26:51):
Yeah? Look, I think we're going to see some really
good sales right the way up till Christmas. You know,
if you look at all the the listing coming onto
the market, the quality of them, You look at the
returns that sheep and beef and dairy and hoarder getting,
they're really strong, So you know, everything's lined up. I
think the other key thing, which we haven't seen for
(27:13):
a long time, there's a lot of genuine buyers out there,
and that tells me that things will take place. I
think the critical thing is those that are selling, you know,
they just need to make sure that you know, they're
aware that you know, just because values are high commodity
(27:33):
price or high rather doesn't mean you can crank up
your price. And I think, you know, I've got to
always just look at the yield.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
There's been a real change, hasn't there over the past
decade or so you know, farms are always a good
bet for a bit of capital gain. Certainly have been
if you look from say the nineteen nineties onwards when
we had the dairy boom. But you look at the
past ten years, My reckoning is there's hardly been any
capital gain and farmers business people are now buying on yield.
Speaker 8 (28:03):
Yeah, definitely, there hasn't been any real gains and we've
looked at that at work, and so I think that's
pretty clear. And as you just mentioned, it's based on yield.
And so look, there's always the odd exception, and they
are the ones that get reported, whether it's a unique
property or a neighbor's boarder or whatever. But in general terms,
the values haven't moved a lot, and I don't think
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they will over the coming months because the purchases aren't
prepared to pay.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Over Monngie, there are some positives there for people wanting
to buy farms. You're going to have lower interest rates
if you're a dairy farmer, for instance. You might be
getting a bit of a helping hand with that potential
three point two billion dollars which is going to find
its way into Fonterra Farmer shareholders and pockets, which I
think that might encourage a bit of another burst on
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dairy farm sales.
Speaker 8 (28:53):
If you look at it, everything is lined up perfectly
at the moment. The only thing we can't guarantee is
the weather coming up. But if you look everything, as
you said, interest rates on farm costs, the returns they're getting,
everything is really positive. So I think that bodes well.
And you know, you talk about the potential Fontier apiece,
I think we're going to see a lot of those
(29:16):
funds actually disperse between rural sales, you know, reduction and debt,
or a lot may use them for succession. So I
think you're going to see a mixture there, but definitely
we'll see another upside in sales.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Put on your livestock hat again. It's been very very
positive for the industry recent times, especially the red meat industry.
Sheep and beef going really well in terms of returns.
Speaker 6 (29:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (29:43):
Look, it's amazing and you know, some of the people
that have been around in that game for a long
time tell me that they have never seen it in
their lifetime. And you know, if you look ahead and
you listen and read and understand what's going on, it'll
be pretty hard to not so we're going to have
another strong season and you know, let's just hope that
(30:04):
moves on for a couple more because I think you know,
it's long overdue and a lot of those sheep and
beef farmers need to get a good return for a
couple of years.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Peter Nubold. Safe travels to Korea and then safe travels home.
Speaker 8 (30:17):
Yeah, thanks, Jamie, have a good afternoon.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Well, thank you, Peter. Carter her away from one, you're
with the country up. Next, trip around the globe continues, Japan, China, Australia. Next.
He's our guy in Australia, Chris Russell, but his eyes
are on the mother nation England at the moment, and
(30:42):
you're looking rather skeptically Chris Russell at the palms sucking
up to Trump.
Speaker 9 (30:49):
I'm looking pretty enviously, to be honest, Jamie, I mean, Fadigham,
they're worth their weight in gold, the Royals for a
few million dollars worth of pomp and ceremony. I see
the headlines in the British papers this morning, Pomp and circumstance,
Pomp and pageantry with us with a purpose, Trump and circumstance.
(31:09):
Fantastic headlines for a few million dollars with the costs
and some dressed up guards that a coach ride through
when the castle. They've accomplished as much in sucking up
the Trump as what other countries would have to spend
whole percentages of their GDP doing. They're so lucky to
have that, and he obviously falls at it's just like
a big kid, really quite extraordinary. The other good news
(31:33):
for us is that he put in a good word
for Orcus. Now at the moment, the Australia UK US Alliance,
which is doing this submarine project using the Virginia class
submarines for America in the first instance, is under review
in America, and I think it was very useful for
Charles to put into his speech, which is normally fairly apolitical,
(31:57):
are comments saying how important and innovative that was. And
I hope that will stand us in goodstead, because ALBN
easy over here is not on Trump's Christmas list by
any stretch of the imagination.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
At last, that's your comment recognition that we will need
to adapt to climate change, not just fight it, if
we are to feed the world, and there's a lot
of argument around that these days. Climate change is here
it's here to stay. We just have to adapt to
it well exactly.
Speaker 9 (32:26):
And I've been giving talks all around the countryside to
anyone or listen about how we're spending so much money
on trying to almost reverse Charles Darwin's theory of survival
of the fittest, which means our ability to be fit
in the climate we're given, not our ability to change
the climate to fit us. And yet that seems to
(32:47):
be where we're putting all of our money into changing
the climate the fit us. Now I'm very skeptical about
whether we'll be successful. Staying away from the argument about
whether that's the key issue, let's assume it is. But
the ability to change the climate something that I think
will elude us. So we need to spend money on
adapting to what I see is inevitable climate change. Almost inevitably,
(33:10):
we will get one and a half two three degree
increase in temperatures and so on over the next twenty
or thirty years, and we need to adapt to that,
not just try and reverse it. And I see the
latest program which has been brought out by the National
Climate Risk Assessment Group has identified extreme heat shifting, growing
(33:34):
seasons and supply chains, meaning that we really need to
adapt to those if we're going to secure our future
food supply. Australia currently feeds one hundred million people in
the world, and we need to make sure we're adapted
to be continued to have to produce that amount of
food because at the end of the day, that's the
crucial effect of climate change.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Jomie and who knew Ossie blugs with such romantics.
Speaker 9 (34:00):
Well, that's it. This bloke has really betrayed the brohood
by setting up this proposal down at Henty in New
South Wales. His name is will Henderson and last April
he planted a very special crop of canola using his
GPS air seeding equipment into his wheat crop which said
will you marry me? I think I've said to you
(34:21):
a pitcher. You can put it up on the website.
But he planted the crop, it didn't get a very
good germination. He had to reseed it. This is five
months work. Then he took his girlfriend up in the
plane and happily it would have been pretty awkward if
she'd said no after all that work, but happily she
said yes. And you can see this aerial shot of
the crop will you marry me? I think the brohood
(34:44):
are saying, mate, you've just set the bar way too
high for the rest of us, so just move on.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Okay, let's move on. I want to talk about Elon Musk.
This was a story we didn't get to last week.
Speaker 9 (34:58):
Yes, well he's just spent the hell of a lot
of money and one of the big problems in Australia
is of course remote access to the networks and the Internet. Well,
he's just purchased twenty five billion cash and stock that
he's put in to buy the s SPAN spectrum in
the US. That all sounds complicated, but basically, the s
(35:20):
SPAN is the satellite band which can talk directly to
your mobile phone without requiring dishes or other sort of
translation equipment that you normally associate with satellite phones or
with picking up satellite information in these remote houses. And
he's spent this money, and so where this will probably
(35:41):
end up where Telsa opts photophone. All those places who
can't reach all these remote areas with their towers will
now be able to hook people's phones directly up to
the satellites through these spectrums just using a phone as
we would round the city so twenty five billion a
lot of money, but I think it was probably the
only way that we were going to overcome one of
(36:03):
the biggest drawbacks of remote living and remote farming in Australia.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Jamie Chris Russell, thanks for your time.
Speaker 9 (36:09):
No worries, Jamie, how Joe to make.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
And that wraps the country for your Thursday. We'll catch
the same time, same place tomorrow. Thanks for listening, really
appreciate it. Thanks for all your feedback. I love listening
to Shane says one Texter. Drill, Baby, Drill. We'll catch
you tomorrow. Damian O'Connor getting stuck into Palmu on tomorrow's show.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
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