September 19, 2025 • 39 mins
Jamie Mackay talks to David Clark, Todd Charteris, Nicola Grigg, Simon Beamish, and Shane Jones.
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at Twickenham on the best of the country This week
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we're going to kick it off with David Clark, who's
fighting a nightmarish bureaucratic battle with ECN, Environment Cantery As
local regional council as a former Mid Canterbury President of
Federated Farmers. Todd charteris chief executive of Rabobank. Farmer confidence
survey came out this week. We are at the second
highest reading that we've had at any stage in the
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last decade. The last time we were this confident was
way back in twenty seventeen. Nicola Grigg acting Minister of
Agriculture this week while Todd McLay was offshore and Horticulture
Minister Rubbishing the call from an outgoing ECN counselor a
lot of controversy around regional councils this week to declare
a night trait emergency in Canterbury. Simon Beamish, father of Jordy,
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more about that a week but later Hawks Bay Farmer.
That's my favorite story of the week. Jeordie Beamish winning
the three thousand meter ste steeplechase in Tokyo at the
World Athletics Champs. And Shane Jones always entertaining, always informative,
the Prince of the Provinces has finally been crowned the
New Zealand first Deputy leader. We all thought he was.
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Speaker 3 (02:59):
Here's a story that blew up social media over the
weekend that comes from David Clark, former Federated Farmer's Mid
Canterbury chair. David, you came back from an overseas holiday
with your lovely wife and there on your arrival was
an email I think from e Can Man. Oh Man,
I read your post A bureaucratic nightmare, absolute road block,
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orange cone oratory from e Can Why do they make
life so hard as a farmer?
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Good Jamien, Great to talk to you today. Oh yeah,
absolutely right. Why is that the farming is being made
so difficult and for what outcome? So yes, we did
arrive home. We'd had a long awaited trip overseas, came
home to a Section ninety two request from e CAN
for further information. So the background our lendue consent that
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we gained in twenty seventeen here in Canterbury for our
mixed durable and sheep property. It was up for ANWAL.
It had to be rolled over. Now we thought, given
that we have a grade audit, we've previously been consented,
and we are meeting all the zone reduction targets, and
that there's a series of new dairy farms being consented
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immediately around us, that rolling over the consent for a
status quo business would be a relatively straightforward process. But
we had engaged consultants to do this work for us.
Put all the information in BANG comes back for section
ninety two a report seven pages of it look delving
back into absolutely minute detail into our application and our
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overseer and our baseline of all things. So a baseline
is the two thousand and nine to thirteen farming years
which establishes the nitrogen loss discharge through overseer, which then
you're judged it whether you're meeting the targets of reductions
or not.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
But if you're not changing your farming practice, why can't
they just rub a stamp this, and it does seem
rather bizarre that you're getting put through the ringer and
around you brand new dairy farms are being consented and
we're hearing all sorts of numbers about how many dairy
farms are going to pop up in Canterbury. I would
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have thought they might have had a bigger environmental footprint
than your arable mixed cropping and sheep operation.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
So that's a pretty hard thing to calibrate as to
why those dairy farms are being consented and out we're
having such a tough job. Look, that largely comes the
end of the way Overseer operates in that it for
a long time has provided very high and loud results
for arable farm systems. It's never been a suitable tool
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for the arable system, but for dairy ing. So long
as you've got plantain and you've got variable rad irrigation
and word appropes and things, it gives you quite a
low number. So whilst Oversea was never ever designed to
compare two different farming systems, and its being useful so
you can run an overseer compared it to arable and
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say well here I am, I can go drying with
a lower number, especially if you send the cows elsewhere
the winter.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Do you think one of the reasons why this has
blown up on social media is that because there's lots
of farmers on the same boat as you. And it's
not only the Canterbury region we're hearing down. For instance,
in Southland, the local farmers down there having all sorts
of issues with regional councils. Maybe the Prince of the
Province of Shane Jones might be your savior. He wants
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rid of them.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Well, that's what we've got to look at, because we
can't keep going back and relitigating things like baselines. We've
got to put a line on the SCEAD and say,
right with a Steiner stat we've agreed on that, let's
move forward. What's the impact of this operator of this business.
But then if you look at it at an individual
farm level, what are we achieving by it all? And
what really really got my back up in the letter
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from e kenj was that they said we're fifteen working
days respond to the request for information and if we
didn't provide the information or it wasn't satisfactory, they would
fully publicly notify our consent call for public submissions, hold
a public hearing, and then they said at the bottom
of the letter and your consent may be declined. So
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I guess the question for all of your listeners and
all of us in agriculture and New Zealand? Is it
for a farming family? What does declined look like? So
if we had declined, do they come and take my
sheep away? Do they confiscate the fertilizer sprinter, do they
take the fusers out of the irrigators or do they
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just arrest me? But what does decline look like? And
if it's a stated aim of sense increased agricultural revenues
to try and dig this country out of the financial
mired that it's in, how does that fit with what
we're being put through to continue farming out arable farming
business here in Canterbury. And what confidence does that give
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us to reinvest in our business.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Well, maybe you just need to do a dairy conversion.
It'll be a lot easier to get a consent. Can
I just also if this wasn't challenging enough, the Rununga
also identified that one of your blocks could be the
site of an historic Mari fishing camp site some four
to five hundred meters from the river. Were you aware
of this?
Speaker 4 (08:21):
No long never ever heard of it before. Look, I
haven't got an ax to grind with EWE as such
on this that if there was an historic site, which
there is absolutely no signs of it on the land,
but if there was, we're quite happy to give respect
to that. I've got no problem with that. But it's
more as though it's being used as yet another stick
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to shoven the spokes by the regional council. So this
is actually not necessarily an overseer issue. This is not
an EWI issue. This is an issue around how regional
councils are doing everything they can to take an attitude
of no less we are forced to say yes rather
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than how can we help you do this? Now? The
regional plan that we have here in Canterbury, and I
think other councils are the same. I've written these very complex,
very legalistic plans that all turn on overseer. The whole
thing is going to implode on itself and that is
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the risk that we all have, and I guess that's
what it's had. Accord with so many one hundred thousands
of people on Facebook, is farming families right across New
Zealand are facing this and it is time for it
to stop.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Sorry, I'm just going to have to wrap this, David.
How much is this costing you?
Speaker 4 (09:40):
By the way, ah long, we would expect this even
if we avoid a public hearing. We'll spend fifty thousand
on us to achieve absolutely nothing.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
I love on your Facebook post and I'm going to
leave it with us because I'm out of time. Your
final words are, if this is the future, then this
country is eft, absolutely and utterly, and I agree with you,
David Clark. Good luck with your bureaucratic battle with ECN.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Yeah, thanks very much, Jamie. Great to talk to.
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Speaker 3 (10:17):
Rubber Bank New Zealand farmer confidence continues to soar fourth
consecutive quarter at lofty heights, So says the headline on
the press release about Rabobank's latest rural confidence survey. To
tell us more, Chief executive Todd charteris four in a
row is really good. We are the most confident as farmers, Todd,
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that we've been since quarter two of twenty seventeen.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
Yeah, good name, Jamie. Look, it's great to see. And
as you say that you have four consecutive quarters now
at really strong levels. Is great to see and long
way it continue because it hasn't always been playing sailing,
but most of their surveyed a certainly enjoying the current
commodity prices, which is really that main driver for confidence, unsurprisingly,
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so you're really good to see.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
If we look back in history, we've got to go
back to the twenty thirteen fourteen season for the last
time we had four consecutive quarters where confidence was at
such an inverted commace lofty heights. And we all remember
well twenty thirteen fourteen was the eight dollars forty milk
payout year, probably the highest historically in real terms. So
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a lot of farmer confidence is based around milk price
because it's the biggest export.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
Commodity, absolutely, and that's really what's driving this level here
as well.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
So no doubt about that.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
And as you say, unsurprisingly, and we're in another really
good position in terms of global milk prices and really
is driving that driving that confidence level for sure, Well.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Red Meat's doing it. It's a bit as well, Lamb's
at record price and beef, of all the commodities in
our exports stable. My take on it, Todd, and you
know a lot more about this than me was would
be that beef is the most positive of the whole lot.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
Well, it's definitely looking very very strong and really led
by that US market which is really strong notwithstanding that
the tariffs on there, but certainly really strong global demand
and that looks positive a few years out. So that's
I think certainly giving red meat farmers some confidence to
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invest and continue to invest in their operations, which is
great to say.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
I know when we're talking about tariffs that you surveyed
the farmers and this latest rural confidence survey on the tariffs.
What did they have to say?
Speaker 5 (12:47):
Yeah, it was pretty much result. It was the first
time we asked them and we essentially asked them on
a scale of one to ten the level of concern,
and I've got to say it was we saw both
ends of the scale and the actual average result came
out at five and a half. So that's pretty mixed.
But it is an area you know that I think
it's important that we keep an eye on. You know,
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we are slightly disadvantage now compared to some of our
competitors after that increased of fifteen percent back in July,
So that's the air. But yeah, it was an interesting result.
Actually it was sort of split down the middle of
terms of film and concern.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
How does this relate to investment intentions? There is a
bit of positivity out there. Are farmers going to reinvest
in their farm, I don't know by the neighboring farm
if it comes up for grabs.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
Yeah, Look, I think this is always a really important
measure because what this says to me is that sort
of longer term confidence that people have in their business,
and we're certainly seeing it driven by dairy farmers. Is
about around about half of our dairy farmer's surveyed that
actually said that their investment and tensions are going to
increase over the next twelve months. So that's positive, and
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you know, let's see what happens. I mean, I think
there will be a bit more few more properties on
the market as we go through the spring period and
it'll be interesting to see how that goes. But it's
not just about acquisition, it's just reinvestment into their farms,
whether it be upgrading infrastructure and things like that, some
investment and technology as well. So it's positive to see.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Great rural confidence survey. While I've got you the unscripted question,
where are interest rates going? Todd? What's Rabobank saying about
the OC bottoming out? We're currently at three percent. A
lot of people are saying we're going to hit the
bottom at two and a half. What does Rabobank say.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
Yeah, well, we're thinking maybe another couple of cuts. I
need to actually catch up with being picked on on
it because it's bouncing around all over the place a
little bit, but certainly more downside pressure. There's no doubt
about that in the market would have proceded some of
those cuts already got on.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
You, hy Todd Chatteris, Chief executive of Rabobank. Thanks for
your time as always on the country.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
Good on your Jamie ketchup certain things.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
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Speaker 3 (15:10):
Just when you thought things couldn't get worse that he can.
One of the counselors wants to declare a nitrate emergency
to discuss this emergency acting agg Minister and Minister of
Horticulture and proud Cantabrian Nikola Gregg. What's in the water
up there, Nichola, that's probably a dumb question.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Well, all sorts of very good things are in the water,
but you know it has to be acknowledged there are
nitrates in our water. There has been historical bad practice,
you know, in over thirty years. But what I would
say is is every single farm across Canterbury that I
know of going to the ends of the earth to
employ really really high, world class standards of environmental practice
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and are going beyond what they need to do to
be cleaning up our waterways. And I think attacks like
this serve no purpose. They have no legal standing. They
are simply inflammatory and are doing nothing but pit that
urban urban against rural once again, right when things were
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starting to settle down and look really really good.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
But this is just one environment Canterbury counselor grand standing
ahead of the local body elections or is this the
view or is this the view of v can across
the board.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
As it transpires, I understand she's actually not standing again,
so I don't understand why she would feel the need
to cause such consternation and angst again amongst the rural
Canterbury community when as I say, it will serve no purpose.
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This decoration has no legal effect.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
You would have caught up with David Clark's story. We
covered it earlier in the week on the show. Here
just roadblock after the roadblock, the blog's going to have
to spend fifty grand just to stay consented for farming.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah, and it's again it's just a nabsent nonsense. I
know David very well. Our family farmer is very close
to his farm as well, and I would rate David
as one of the best farmers in New Zealand. And
it just goes to show that if he can't meet
requirements and expectations then they are simply out of touch.
And this is why the government we are working so
hard and fast to try and rewrite the RMA, which
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will be legislated for by next year, which is going
to shift the dial on rules around land use consents,
water use consents, all of that kind of thing where
you know, it's the premise of an RMA. Consent will
be to say yes as opposed to say no. It
will be to consider the positive effects on the environment
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as opposed to the negative effects. So we're really going
to turn this thing on its head and enable our
most productive economy in the country to get on with
doing what it does best, and that is farming.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Shane Jones wants rid of regional accounts. Has he got
merit in that argument?
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Well, if you're sitting in Canterbury today, you'd probably agree
with them, wouldn't you.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
And you know what's going on down on Southland. They're
farmers getting all sorts of invoices for activities when they've
done effectively nothing wrong.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Yeah, and you could say the same for the West Coast,
at the North Island, around Kampaty, all those areas there
are we have. You know, I've got a pile of
examples from farmers across New Zealand which are just butting
up against regional councils and their interpretation of rules. It
seems to me to be overly zealous at times quite
pernicious and we've really got to come back to the
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facts here. You know, if you talk to one of
the councilors on he can one of the you know,
I think the more sensible counselors. He would tell you
that this particular example in Canterbury, they're using wells that
are known to be in high night trait spots. They're
the same wells showing the same levels for the past
thirty five years in Canterbury. This is not new, it's
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a well documented legacy issue. Equally, I hear people you
know throwing up concern about the potential for bow cancer
to be caused by natrix and water. Well, it's you know,
it's a very valid, genuine concern to have, but look
to bowcans in New Zealand. Look to their website it
self states that nitrates and water are quote highly unlikely
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to increase the risk of bow cancer in New Zealand.
I hear people you know talking about blue baby syndrome
being caused, Well, it is very very rare. There has
been two hospitalizations in the whole country between twenty twelve
and twenty one of babies and neither could conclude the
symptoms were caused by night trates. So we've got to
be very clear on the facts here before the hysteria
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starts up. And I would say this hysteria has been
stoked along by irresponsible representatives on regional councils.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Nikola, Gregg, just check on your horticulture Minister's hat industry
is largely doing very very well. I do have to
feel for the avocado growers. They always seem to be
up against it, and yesterday we heard use around Bay
a plenty of avocado crops being smashed by the high winds.
She's a tough business growing anything, Yeah, yeah, it is.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
And you know, and you'd say that for farming across
the board. If you haven't got regional councils agitating against you,
you've got the weather. Well, you know, we can try
and do something about one, but we can't quite do
much about the other. But look, I really do feel
for those growers. Wind is no good for avocados. That
causes rub that you know, it makes them look far
less desirable when they're on the shop shelves, and that
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is very unfortunate for them. But I'm afraid we can't
we can't help with the weather.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Jamie Nikola, you'd be a millennial, ordn't you.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
I doubt it.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
What year were you born, Oh, Damie, that's a personal question,
but nineteen eighty. I'm a child of the eighties.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Oh well, your generation X. You've just missed out on
being a millennial. Sorry, and I didn't want to ask
a lady her age, Nicholas, but I was just I
was just thinking, you know, millennial smashed avocado on toast,
but you've missed that by one year.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
I have, I have.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
I'm probably still baking an eggs on toast.
Speaker 7 (21:03):
Kind of girl.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Good on you, Thanks for your time today.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
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Everybody's got a summer and after can fall, yeah, they
hold on.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
To and go back to Good Morning New Zealand. I'm
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Caught up with Simon, the dad of Jordie Beemish. She
was in Tokyo to see his son when the three
thousand meters steeplechase at the World Athletics Champs. What a
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week zero point nine percent fall for the June quarter.
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Up next it is Simon Beamish in Tokyo, the.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
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Speaker 3 (23:56):
Rabobank, Well, I've been on the case of this bloke
for a couple of days. We finally got colms into Japan.
Tokyo no less where we find Simon Beamish, well known
Hawks Bay farmer of course these days more famous Simon
for being the father of Jordi Beamish, who won the
World championship three thousand meters steeple chase. How great was
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that for you as a parent along with your wife
Josie sitting in the stadium watching that.
Speaker 6 (24:25):
Well, it was pretty amazing and the memory of a
lifetime or an experience, that's for sure. We didn't actually
realize that, but we were front row with about eighty
meters to go and on reflection, couldn't have been in
their better spot.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Really, did you think he had it in him?
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Because the bloke, the Moroccan bloke al Bakhali has basically
been untouchable in this event. He shot out unto the
lead and we know Jordie's got a brilliant kick finish,
but did you think he could pull that much in?
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Well?
Speaker 6 (25:00):
Albert Kaylee, he's got He's had such good form and
consistent form over a long period of times it seemed
like he was unbeatable. And then there's Gurma who is
never far behind. In fact, I think he may even
have the world record. So you know a couple of
Africans there and the finish line I think six Africans
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and one Kiwi. So they're a formidable continent to try
and get ahead off, that's for sure. And if Jordi
was a parabridge. You would never put any money on him,
that's for sure, because it is pretty unpredictable. He likes
languishing out the back and it's quite a ride watching
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them try and get to the front. That's for sure my.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Favorite sporting moment of the year thus far as Jordy
Beamish winning that race, and it was great to see
Hamish Kurr as well two kiwis on the top of
the podium in Tokyo. Was it true that the Mara
can Alba Carley didn't even know Jordie's name. That seems
a bit arrogant.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
If that was the case, Well, that's hard to believe,
and I don't know whether that was just one report,
one person's opinion. It's a pretty small community, you know,
you could throw you could throw a rug over the
stable chasers that turn up to Heatsworth. It's hard to
believe that someone of that caliber doesn't do a little
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bit of planning before. Yeah, so I'm not honestly, I
honestly don't know, but it kind of looked a bit
like it.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Maybe have you booked anually from the Hawk's Bay Farm
for l A and when is it twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
Well, we all turned up to Paris and that was
that that didn't go according to plan, and I guess
testament to Jordie's resilience. He was pretty banged up, injured
and leading up of Paris that he had been going
so well, and you know, there's always expectations, but you
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know it's probably unfinished business for him. But these athletes,
they just live on a nice edge, and you have
to be competitive on the day. You know, not only
do all the stars have to align, but you've got
to be in amazing shape to be competitive. And yeah,
we'll just take this win and enjoy it while we can.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
What is he something like twenty eight years of age,
late twenties. When does a steeple chaser peak age wise?
I mean we know that sprinters start to slow down
obviously once they're in their thirties, unless you're heading to
the enhanced games, But what about steeplechasers. That's an endurance event.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
It there's a bit of research I haven't done, Jamie.
To be fair, I'm more of a farmer than a
sports than a sports and when it comes to steeble chasing,
I imagine, well, it was one of the ond guys
said yesterday at the headquarters. They think he's just maybe
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peeking in the next couple of years. I saw in
the Jason Ross actually his sort of chiropractice physio and
Jason Georgie's body has been the biggest challenge he's come across,
and he was saying, I'm getting to the bottom of it.
I'm getting more and more confident working with his body.
So maybe we've got another year or two left to
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be on the sideline and support him.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
I reckon he'd damn handy when he comes back to
the Hawks Boy Farm. You can send him out to
go around the sheep and he wouldn't have to open
the gates, just leap the fence.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
Maybe he's tripped up and rolled down a few of
those hills on our by more than we think, because
he certainly managed that role pretty well in recovery.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Was on a Saturday night, absolutely fantastic. Just before I
let you go, how are things on the Hawks Boy Farm.
I know you've taken a brief break and you'll be
heading back there. I understand you're getting a wee bit dry.
Speaker 6 (29:02):
Yeah, yeah, Hugo and put a holding the fort there
and the rest of the team thank you very much.
We've had actually reasonable rain up against the Rangers, twenty
five meals this month. Some of that has been sideways
by the look of it, so a bit of a
roller coaster. There's farming, isn't it weather wise and everything else.
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But hopefully if it's blown and wild now, it might
be Carmen October and a bit easier on the farm.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Simon Beamish out of Tokyo. Thank you very much for
your time. The whole country is so proud of your son, Jordi.
What a finish, What a moment in New Zealand's sporting history.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
Yeah, I love it to be part of it.
Speaker 6 (29:45):
Thank you for the call, Jamiel.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
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Speaker 3 (29:55):
A bit of CCR at the behest of our first
guest on the show today, Shane Jones, Big Credence fan.
Good afternoon, Shane.
Speaker 7 (30:04):
Hey, greeting's folks all the way from Wellingtown.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
You are officially the New Zealand first deputy leader. I
never realized that you weren't in that position. Why did
you make a song and dance about your appointment.
Speaker 7 (30:18):
Oh well, Winston wanted to formalize it, and well it
stopped people comparing me to Prince Charles waiting anxiously on
the edge of the So for what's going to happen
to Queen Elizabeth?
Speaker 3 (30:33):
See, I've got a conspiracy theory, Shane. See, I reckon
Winston had Stuart Nash lined up for the position, but
he's sort of sullied the old copy book a week.
But now he's got to go with you. That'll get
a bite.
Speaker 7 (30:45):
Well, him and I work a hand in club Winston.
It was Stewie while he made a range of foolish
remarks that Winston's already had a say about that. But then,
having said that, he's not the only bloke to have
shot his mouth off on the wrong way.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Talk to me about the Canterbury Regional Council declaring a
nitrate emergency. They voted yesterday nine to seven in favor
of declaring this emergency. What do you say about that the.
Speaker 7 (31:13):
Regional Council of Canterbury have corrupted democracy? The person who
moved that motion is not even standing to be a
candidate again. Such a profound motion should never have been
tolerated given that they are in their death throes as
a body of duly elected officials. And if I have
(31:35):
my way, there will be no regional council. They will
cease to exist. And if you ever needed evidence about
how woke riddle virtue signaling randoms are driving economic pain
and hardship onto cockies and the productive sector, look no
further than this woman's Southgate who moved that motion, I'm advised,
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and it was just to enable christ Church's version of
Jaffers to try and increase their appeal in the voting public.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
I think it's bad.
Speaker 7 (32:10):
I think it's dangerous and it has no impact on
New Zealand. First in terms of them impressing us. We're
going ahead with the remit that we passed. There will
be no regional councils after the next election.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
You might get some support in Canterbury for that also
south and they're not too happy down there either.
Speaker 7 (32:28):
But I reckon the best days of your council down
there in the Canterbury area. It was when they had
no elected members and a lot of things got done
under the redoubtable Margaret Baisley. And look, we've had other
models in the past. I mean the Labor Party introduced
a model where a lot of the health boards were
a mix of elected people, but very technically proficient people
(32:54):
appointed by the minister. And what's happened with a lot
of the regional councils. They've turned into a form for
vanity projects. They've turned into a platform where a narrow
cast of people with weak accountability are imposing not only
their costs but the most extreme interpretations of environmental nature
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onto the god fearing men and women trying to make
a living out of our legacy industry. So it's just
not sustainable. They've long since moved away from pragmatic stop
bank management. Can't even dig gravel out of a road
for a road out of a river, and of course
what do echoes covered with gravel and rocks because people
wouldn't allow those rivers to be dug up. It's madness.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Good to see you going into bat for the farmers,
Shane Jones. You are, of course the Minister of Fisheries
as well. Have you hung the fishermen fisher people of
just to be politically We're woken correct of Otago out
to dry with your overnight blanket ban on set net
fishing on the Otago coast. This is a multimillion dollar business.
(34:01):
You are protecting the yellow eyed penguins, which is laudable,
but what makes them more important than hectors, dolphins, skinks,
lizards or blind frogs.
Speaker 7 (34:12):
Well, there is a lady down there, Chanel Gardner, I
think her name is, and she released a press statement
on behalf of the fishing industry in and around Otago,
encouraging and almost pleading with the government to introduce a
set of measures. That brought us some time to come
(34:35):
up with a permanent set of remedies which may or
may not be a closure. But because it's the nesting
time and there is a sense that fishing is imperiling
the remaining population. But I have to say it is
a difficult decision, and I'm conscious that there are some
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families down there. But at the same time, there is
a small matter of social license, and we've pushed a
great deal of accent an emphasis on the fact that
the phishing leader of that area released a press statement
saying it was a good idea.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Three hundred and eighty reported hiho Ur yellow eyed penguin
deaths are since twenty twenty of the three hundred and
eighty reported deaths and this is from the Official Information Act.
Twelve have been by set Net. I'm hearing Shane Jones
that the main reason for the decline and the population,
and it is a bit of a perilous decline, is
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due to disease and predation.
Speaker 7 (35:36):
Yeah, without a doubt, the chicks do suffer various physical
afflictions because they're being picked up and pick into the
Dunedin Bird Hospital. I'm quite sure how that works. And
there are other diseases that are afflicting them and we
are working on a long term mitigation strategy will doctors.
(35:56):
But look, I'd just say often to do a great good,
you have to do a little wrong. And I accept
it in the minds of the local fishes it was
the wrong thing to do, But they wouldn't want to
be branded either, unnecessarily as having a disproportionately large impact
on this fragile population. But don't fret, there's no suggestion
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that it's going to permanently remain.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
We bought ourselves some time.
Speaker 7 (36:23):
It's different from Marwi's Dolphin because there is no Marwi's dolphin.
There's no such thing in the skinks.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
Every time a.
Speaker 7 (36:31):
Cocky plows up a paddic for barley or whatever they
do down the South Island. There's lots of skinks who
run away or hide so they avoid the tractor tire.
And it's only my beloved mining industry that gets penalized.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
What about the blind frogs. Wouldn't you be unlucky if
you were a blind frog and I don't know, I'm
the christ Flat or somewhere up there where they're doing mining,
and you couldn't get out of the way of the
heavy machinery.
Speaker 7 (36:56):
The blind frog is located in Paramandle, two hundred meters
above the location of the underground tunnels needed for mining gold.
And what the greenies are telling me is that when
they detonate to expand the tunnel and extract the gold
and various other properties that might be found under the
earth trembles, the earth quivers and it could interfere, I'm told,
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with the mating habits of the blind frock. Well, you
know when I went to Saint Stephen's school when the
earth moved, it had a different meaning.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
I'm sure it did. Well, thank you very much for
your time. We're going to go out with the webit
of CCR and Fortunate Son. That probably describes you now
because Winston has officially anointed you.
Speaker 7 (37:38):
And I'm very appreciative of the recognition and I'll get
on with the money.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
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Speaker 3 (38:02):
My name's Jamie McKay and has promised a bit of
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(38:23):
at the top of the hour here on News Talk
ZB and lots more to come between seven and nine
on Sports Talk with Darcy. Wherever you are this weekend,
enjoy your weekend. I know it's the weather's been a
bit challenging for you farmers, but trust me, can only
get better. I'm going to leave you with Credence, clear
Water Revival, A.
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at Twickenham on the best of the country This week
(01:19):
we're going to kick it off with David Clark, who's
fighting a nightmarish bureaucratic battle with ECN, Environment Cantery As
local regional council as a former Mid Canterbury President of
Federated Farmers. Todd charteris chief executive of Rabobank. Farmer confidence
survey came out this week. We are at the second
highest reading that we've had at any stage in the
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last decade. The last time we were this confident was
way back in twenty seventeen. Nicola Grigg acting Minister of
Agriculture this week while Todd McLay was offshore and Horticulture
Minister Rubbishing the call from an outgoing ECN counselor a
lot of controversy around regional councils this week to declare
a night trait emergency in Canterbury. Simon Beamish, father of Jordy,
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more about that a week but later Hawks Bay Farmer.
That's my favorite story of the week. Jeordie Beamish winning
the three thousand meter ste steeplechase in Tokyo at the
World Athletics Champs. And Shane Jones always entertaining, always informative,
the Prince of the Provinces has finally been crowned the
New Zealand first Deputy leader. We all thought he was.
(02:29):
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Speaker 3 (02:59):
Here's a story that blew up social media over the
weekend that comes from David Clark, former Federated Farmer's Mid
Canterbury chair. David, you came back from an overseas holiday
with your lovely wife and there on your arrival was
an email I think from e Can Man. Oh Man,
I read your post A bureaucratic nightmare, absolute road block,
(03:19):
orange cone oratory from e Can Why do they make
life so hard as a farmer?
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Good Jamien, Great to talk to you today. Oh yeah,
absolutely right. Why is that the farming is being made
so difficult and for what outcome? So yes, we did
arrive home. We'd had a long awaited trip overseas, came
home to a Section ninety two request from e CAN
for further information. So the background our lendue consent that
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we gained in twenty seventeen here in Canterbury for our
mixed durable and sheep property. It was up for ANWAL.
It had to be rolled over. Now we thought, given
that we have a grade audit, we've previously been consented,
and we are meeting all the zone reduction targets, and
that there's a series of new dairy farms being consented
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immediately around us, that rolling over the consent for a
status quo business would be a relatively straightforward process. But
we had engaged consultants to do this work for us.
Put all the information in BANG comes back for section
ninety two a report seven pages of it look delving
back into absolutely minute detail into our application and our
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overseer and our baseline of all things. So a baseline
is the two thousand and nine to thirteen farming years
which establishes the nitrogen loss discharge through overseer, which then
you're judged it whether you're meeting the targets of reductions
or not.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
But if you're not changing your farming practice, why can't
they just rub a stamp this, and it does seem
rather bizarre that you're getting put through the ringer and
around you brand new dairy farms are being consented and
we're hearing all sorts of numbers about how many dairy
farms are going to pop up in Canterbury. I would
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have thought they might have had a bigger environmental footprint
than your arable mixed cropping and sheep operation.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
So that's a pretty hard thing to calibrate as to
why those dairy farms are being consented and out we're
having such a tough job. Look, that largely comes the
end of the way Overseer operates in that it for
a long time has provided very high and loud results
for arable farm systems. It's never been a suitable tool
(05:43):
for the arable system, but for dairy ing. So long
as you've got plantain and you've got variable rad irrigation
and word appropes and things, it gives you quite a
low number. So whilst Oversea was never ever designed to
compare two different farming systems, and its being useful so
you can run an overseer compared it to arable and
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say well here I am, I can go drying with
a lower number, especially if you send the cows elsewhere
the winter.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Do you think one of the reasons why this has
blown up on social media is that because there's lots
of farmers on the same boat as you. And it's
not only the Canterbury region we're hearing down. For instance,
in Southland, the local farmers down there having all sorts
of issues with regional councils. Maybe the Prince of the
Province of Shane Jones might be your savior. He wants
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rid of them.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Well, that's what we've got to look at, because we
can't keep going back and relitigating things like baselines. We've
got to put a line on the SCEAD and say,
right with a Steiner stat we've agreed on that, let's
move forward. What's the impact of this operator of this business.
But then if you look at it at an individual
farm level, what are we achieving by it all? And
what really really got my back up in the letter
(06:57):
from e kenj was that they said we're fifteen working
days respond to the request for information and if we
didn't provide the information or it wasn't satisfactory, they would
fully publicly notify our consent call for public submissions, hold
a public hearing, and then they said at the bottom
of the letter and your consent may be declined. So
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I guess the question for all of your listeners and
all of us in agriculture and New Zealand? Is it
for a farming family? What does declined look like? So
if we had declined, do they come and take my
sheep away? Do they confiscate the fertilizer sprinter, do they
take the fusers out of the irrigators or do they
(07:38):
just arrest me? But what does decline look like? And
if it's a stated aim of sense increased agricultural revenues
to try and dig this country out of the financial
mired that it's in, how does that fit with what
we're being put through to continue farming out arable farming
business here in Canterbury. And what confidence does that give
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us to reinvest in our business.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Well, maybe you just need to do a dairy conversion.
It'll be a lot easier to get a consent. Can
I just also if this wasn't challenging enough, the Rununga
also identified that one of your blocks could be the
site of an historic Mari fishing camp site some four
to five hundred meters from the river. Were you aware
of this?
Speaker 4 (08:21):
No long never ever heard of it before. Look, I
haven't got an ax to grind with EWE as such
on this that if there was an historic site, which
there is absolutely no signs of it on the land,
but if there was, we're quite happy to give respect
to that. I've got no problem with that. But it's
more as though it's being used as yet another stick
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to shoven the spokes by the regional council. So this
is actually not necessarily an overseer issue. This is not
an EWI issue. This is an issue around how regional
councils are doing everything they can to take an attitude
of no less we are forced to say yes rather
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than how can we help you do this? Now? The
regional plan that we have here in Canterbury, and I
think other councils are the same. I've written these very complex,
very legalistic plans that all turn on overseer. The whole
thing is going to implode on itself and that is
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the risk that we all have, and I guess that's
what it's had. Accord with so many one hundred thousands
of people on Facebook, is farming families right across New
Zealand are facing this and it is time for it
to stop.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Sorry, I'm just going to have to wrap this, David.
How much is this costing you?
Speaker 4 (09:40):
By the way, ah long, we would expect this even
if we avoid a public hearing. We'll spend fifty thousand
on us to achieve absolutely nothing.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
I love on your Facebook post and I'm going to
leave it with us because I'm out of time. Your
final words are, if this is the future, then this
country is eft, absolutely and utterly, and I agree with you,
David Clark. Good luck with your bureaucratic battle with ECN.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Yeah, thanks very much, Jamie. Great to talk to.
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Rubber Bank New Zealand farmer confidence continues to soar fourth
consecutive quarter at lofty heights, So says the headline on
the press release about Rabobank's latest rural confidence survey. To
tell us more, Chief executive Todd charteris four in a
row is really good. We are the most confident as farmers, Todd,
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that we've been since quarter two of twenty seventeen.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
Yeah, good name, Jamie. Look, it's great to see. And
as you say that you have four consecutive quarters now
at really strong levels. Is great to see and long
way it continue because it hasn't always been playing sailing,
but most of their surveyed a certainly enjoying the current
commodity prices, which is really that main driver for confidence, unsurprisingly,
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so you're really good to see.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
If we look back in history, we've got to go
back to the twenty thirteen fourteen season for the last
time we had four consecutive quarters where confidence was at
such an inverted commace lofty heights. And we all remember
well twenty thirteen fourteen was the eight dollars forty milk
payout year, probably the highest historically in real terms. So
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a lot of farmer confidence is based around milk price
because it's the biggest export.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
Commodity, absolutely, and that's really what's driving this level here
as well.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
So no doubt about that.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
And as you say, unsurprisingly, and we're in another really
good position in terms of global milk prices and really
is driving that driving that confidence level for sure, Well.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Red Meat's doing it. It's a bit as well, Lamb's
at record price and beef, of all the commodities in
our exports stable. My take on it, Todd, and you
know a lot more about this than me was would
be that beef is the most positive of the whole lot.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
Well, it's definitely looking very very strong and really led
by that US market which is really strong notwithstanding that
the tariffs on there, but certainly really strong global demand
and that looks positive a few years out. So that's
I think certainly giving red meat farmers some confidence to
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invest and continue to invest in their operations, which is
great to say.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
I know when we're talking about tariffs that you surveyed
the farmers and this latest rural confidence survey on the tariffs.
What did they have to say?
Speaker 5 (12:47):
Yeah, it was pretty much result. It was the first
time we asked them and we essentially asked them on
a scale of one to ten the level of concern,
and I've got to say it was we saw both
ends of the scale and the actual average result came
out at five and a half. So that's pretty mixed.
But it is an area you know that I think
it's important that we keep an eye on. You know,
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we are slightly disadvantage now compared to some of our
competitors after that increased of fifteen percent back in July,
So that's the air. But yeah, it was an interesting result.
Actually it was sort of split down the middle of
terms of film and concern.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
How does this relate to investment intentions? There is a
bit of positivity out there. Are farmers going to reinvest
in their farm, I don't know by the neighboring farm
if it comes up for grabs.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
Yeah, Look, I think this is always a really important
measure because what this says to me is that sort
of longer term confidence that people have in their business,
and we're certainly seeing it driven by dairy farmers. Is
about around about half of our dairy farmer's surveyed that
actually said that their investment and tensions are going to
increase over the next twelve months. So that's positive, and
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you know, let's see what happens. I mean, I think
there will be a bit more few more properties on
the market as we go through the spring period and
it'll be interesting to see how that goes. But it's
not just about acquisition, it's just reinvestment into their farms,
whether it be upgrading infrastructure and things like that, some
investment and technology as well. So it's positive to see.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Great rural confidence survey. While I've got you the unscripted question,
where are interest rates going? Todd? What's Rabobank saying about
the OC bottoming out? We're currently at three percent. A
lot of people are saying we're going to hit the
bottom at two and a half. What does Rabobank say.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
Yeah, well, we're thinking maybe another couple of cuts. I
need to actually catch up with being picked on on
it because it's bouncing around all over the place a
little bit, but certainly more downside pressure. There's no doubt
about that in the market would have proceded some of
those cuts already got on.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
You, hy Todd Chatteris, Chief executive of Rabobank. Thanks for
your time as always on the country.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
Good on your Jamie ketchup certain things.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
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Speaker 3 (15:10):
Just when you thought things couldn't get worse that he can.
One of the counselors wants to declare a nitrate emergency
to discuss this emergency acting agg Minister and Minister of
Horticulture and proud Cantabrian Nikola Gregg. What's in the water
up there, Nichola, that's probably a dumb question.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Well, all sorts of very good things are in the water,
but you know it has to be acknowledged there are
nitrates in our water. There has been historical bad practice,
you know, in over thirty years. But what I would
say is is every single farm across Canterbury that I
know of going to the ends of the earth to
employ really really high, world class standards of environmental practice
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and are going beyond what they need to do to
be cleaning up our waterways. And I think attacks like
this serve no purpose. They have no legal standing. They
are simply inflammatory and are doing nothing but pit that
urban urban against rural once again, right when things were
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starting to settle down and look really really good.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
But this is just one environment Canterbury counselor grand standing
ahead of the local body elections or is this the
view or is this the view of v can across
the board.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
As it transpires, I understand she's actually not standing again,
so I don't understand why she would feel the need
to cause such consternation and angst again amongst the rural
Canterbury community when as I say, it will serve no purpose.
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This decoration has no legal effect.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
You would have caught up with David Clark's story. We
covered it earlier in the week on the show. Here
just roadblock after the roadblock, the blog's going to have
to spend fifty grand just to stay consented for farming.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah, and it's again it's just a nabsent nonsense. I
know David very well. Our family farmer is very close
to his farm as well, and I would rate David
as one of the best farmers in New Zealand. And
it just goes to show that if he can't meet
requirements and expectations then they are simply out of touch.
And this is why the government we are working so
hard and fast to try and rewrite the RMA, which
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will be legislated for by next year, which is going
to shift the dial on rules around land use consents,
water use consents, all of that kind of thing where
you know, it's the premise of an RMA. Consent will
be to say yes as opposed to say no. It
will be to consider the positive effects on the environment
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as opposed to the negative effects. So we're really going
to turn this thing on its head and enable our
most productive economy in the country to get on with
doing what it does best, and that is farming.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Shane Jones wants rid of regional accounts. Has he got
merit in that argument?
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Well, if you're sitting in Canterbury today, you'd probably agree
with them, wouldn't you.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
And you know what's going on down on Southland. They're
farmers getting all sorts of invoices for activities when they've
done effectively nothing wrong.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Yeah, and you could say the same for the West Coast,
at the North Island, around Kampaty, all those areas there
are we have. You know, I've got a pile of
examples from farmers across New Zealand which are just butting
up against regional councils and their interpretation of rules. It
seems to me to be overly zealous at times quite
pernicious and we've really got to come back to the
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facts here. You know, if you talk to one of
the councilors on he can one of the you know,
I think the more sensible counselors. He would tell you
that this particular example in Canterbury, they're using wells that
are known to be in high night trait spots. They're
the same wells showing the same levels for the past
thirty five years in Canterbury. This is not new, it's
(18:57):
a well documented legacy issue. Equally, I hear people you
know throwing up concern about the potential for bow cancer
to be caused by natrix and water. Well, it's you know,
it's a very valid, genuine concern to have, but look
to bowcans in New Zealand. Look to their website it
self states that nitrates and water are quote highly unlikely
(19:17):
to increase the risk of bow cancer in New Zealand.
I hear people you know talking about blue baby syndrome
being caused, Well, it is very very rare. There has
been two hospitalizations in the whole country between twenty twelve
and twenty one of babies and neither could conclude the
symptoms were caused by night trates. So we've got to
be very clear on the facts here before the hysteria
(19:40):
starts up. And I would say this hysteria has been
stoked along by irresponsible representatives on regional councils.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Nikola, Gregg, just check on your horticulture Minister's hat industry
is largely doing very very well. I do have to
feel for the avocado growers. They always seem to be
up against it, and yesterday we heard use around Bay
a plenty of avocado crops being smashed by the high winds.
She's a tough business growing anything, Yeah, yeah, it is.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
And you know, and you'd say that for farming across
the board. If you haven't got regional councils agitating against you,
you've got the weather. Well, you know, we can try
and do something about one, but we can't quite do
much about the other. But look, I really do feel
for those growers. Wind is no good for avocados. That
causes rub that you know, it makes them look far
less desirable when they're on the shop shelves, and that
(20:29):
is very unfortunate for them. But I'm afraid we can't
we can't help with the weather.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Jamie Nikola, you'd be a millennial, ordn't you.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
I doubt it.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
What year were you born, Oh, Damie, that's a personal question,
but nineteen eighty. I'm a child of the eighties.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Oh well, your generation X. You've just missed out on
being a millennial. Sorry, and I didn't want to ask
a lady her age, Nicholas, but I was just I
was just thinking, you know, millennial smashed avocado on toast,
but you've missed that by one year.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
I have, I have.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
I'm probably still baking an eggs on toast.
Speaker 7 (21:03):
Kind of girl.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Good on you, Thanks for your time today.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Thank you.
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Everybody's got a summer and after can fall, yeah, they
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action for you shortly. So go the Black Ferns up
next on the Best of the Country talking about sport.
Caught up with Simon, the dad of Jordie Beemish. She
was in Tokyo to see his son when the three
thousand meters steeplechase at the World Athletics Champs. What a
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Up next it is Simon Beamish in Tokyo, the.
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Speaker 3 (23:56):
Rabobank, Well, I've been on the case of this bloke
for a couple of days. We finally got colms into Japan.
Tokyo no less where we find Simon Beamish, well known
Hawks Bay farmer of course these days more famous Simon
for being the father of Jordi Beamish, who won the
World championship three thousand meters steeple chase. How great was
(24:19):
that for you as a parent along with your wife
Josie sitting in the stadium watching that.
Speaker 6 (24:25):
Well, it was pretty amazing and the memory of a
lifetime or an experience, that's for sure. We didn't actually
realize that, but we were front row with about eighty
meters to go and on reflection, couldn't have been in
their better spot.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Really, did you think he had it in him?
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Because the bloke, the Moroccan bloke al Bakhali has basically
been untouchable in this event. He shot out unto the
lead and we know Jordie's got a brilliant kick finish,
but did you think he could pull that much in?
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Well?
Speaker 6 (25:00):
Albert Kaylee, he's got He's had such good form and
consistent form over a long period of times it seemed
like he was unbeatable. And then there's Gurma who is
never far behind. In fact, I think he may even
have the world record. So you know a couple of
Africans there and the finish line I think six Africans
(25:21):
and one Kiwi. So they're a formidable continent to try
and get ahead off, that's for sure. And if Jordi
was a parabridge. You would never put any money on him,
that's for sure, because it is pretty unpredictable. He likes
languishing out the back and it's quite a ride watching
(25:43):
them try and get to the front. That's for sure my.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Favorite sporting moment of the year thus far as Jordy
Beamish winning that race, and it was great to see
Hamish Kurr as well two kiwis on the top of
the podium in Tokyo. Was it true that the Mara
can Alba Carley didn't even know Jordie's name. That seems
a bit arrogant.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
If that was the case, Well, that's hard to believe,
and I don't know whether that was just one report,
one person's opinion. It's a pretty small community, you know,
you could throw you could throw a rug over the
stable chasers that turn up to Heatsworth. It's hard to
believe that someone of that caliber doesn't do a little
(26:26):
bit of planning before. Yeah, so I'm not honestly, I
honestly don't know, but it kind of looked a bit
like it.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Maybe have you booked anually from the Hawk's Bay Farm
for l A and when is it twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
Well, we all turned up to Paris and that was
that that didn't go according to plan, and I guess
testament to Jordie's resilience. He was pretty banged up, injured
and leading up of Paris that he had been going
so well, and you know, there's always expectations, but you
(27:07):
know it's probably unfinished business for him. But these athletes,
they just live on a nice edge, and you have
to be competitive on the day. You know, not only
do all the stars have to align, but you've got
to be in amazing shape to be competitive. And yeah,
we'll just take this win and enjoy it while we can.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
What is he something like twenty eight years of age,
late twenties. When does a steeple chaser peak age wise?
I mean we know that sprinters start to slow down
obviously once they're in their thirties, unless you're heading to
the enhanced games, But what about steeplechasers. That's an endurance event.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
It there's a bit of research I haven't done, Jamie.
To be fair, I'm more of a farmer than a
sports than a sports and when it comes to steeble chasing,
I imagine, well, it was one of the ond guys
said yesterday at the headquarters. They think he's just maybe
(28:09):
peeking in the next couple of years. I saw in
the Jason Ross actually his sort of chiropractice physio and
Jason Georgie's body has been the biggest challenge he's come across,
and he was saying, I'm getting to the bottom of it.
I'm getting more and more confident working with his body.
So maybe we've got another year or two left to
(28:30):
be on the sideline and support him.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
I reckon he'd damn handy when he comes back to
the Hawks Boy Farm. You can send him out to
go around the sheep and he wouldn't have to open
the gates, just leap the fence.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
Maybe he's tripped up and rolled down a few of
those hills on our by more than we think, because
he certainly managed that role pretty well in recovery.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Was on a Saturday night, absolutely fantastic. Just before I
let you go, how are things on the Hawks Boy Farm.
I know you've taken a brief break and you'll be
heading back there. I understand you're getting a wee bit dry.
Speaker 6 (29:02):
Yeah, yeah, Hugo and put a holding the fort there
and the rest of the team thank you very much.
We've had actually reasonable rain up against the Rangers, twenty
five meals this month. Some of that has been sideways
by the look of it, so a bit of a
roller coaster. There's farming, isn't it weather wise and everything else.
(29:24):
But hopefully if it's blown and wild now, it might
be Carmen October and a bit easier on the farm.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Simon Beamish out of Tokyo. Thank you very much for
your time. The whole country is so proud of your son, Jordi.
What a finish, What a moment in New Zealand's sporting history.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
Yeah, I love it to be part of it.
Speaker 6 (29:45):
Thank you for the call, Jamiel.
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Speaker 3 (29:55):
A bit of CCR at the behest of our first
guest on the show today, Shane Jones, Big Credence fan.
Good afternoon, Shane.
Speaker 7 (30:04):
Hey, greeting's folks all the way from Wellingtown.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
You are officially the New Zealand first deputy leader. I
never realized that you weren't in that position. Why did
you make a song and dance about your appointment.
Speaker 7 (30:18):
Oh well, Winston wanted to formalize it, and well it
stopped people comparing me to Prince Charles waiting anxiously on
the edge of the So for what's going to happen
to Queen Elizabeth?
Speaker 3 (30:33):
See, I've got a conspiracy theory, Shane. See, I reckon
Winston had Stuart Nash lined up for the position, but
he's sort of sullied the old copy book a week.
But now he's got to go with you. That'll get
a bite.
Speaker 7 (30:45):
Well, him and I work a hand in club Winston.
It was Stewie while he made a range of foolish
remarks that Winston's already had a say about that. But then,
having said that, he's not the only bloke to have
shot his mouth off on the wrong way.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Talk to me about the Canterbury Regional Council declaring a
nitrate emergency. They voted yesterday nine to seven in favor
of declaring this emergency. What do you say about that the.
Speaker 7 (31:13):
Regional Council of Canterbury have corrupted democracy? The person who
moved that motion is not even standing to be a
candidate again. Such a profound motion should never have been
tolerated given that they are in their death throes as
a body of duly elected officials. And if I have
(31:35):
my way, there will be no regional council. They will
cease to exist. And if you ever needed evidence about
how woke riddle virtue signaling randoms are driving economic pain
and hardship onto cockies and the productive sector, look no
further than this woman's Southgate who moved that motion, I'm advised,
(31:59):
and it was just to enable christ Church's version of
Jaffers to try and increase their appeal in the voting public.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
I think it's bad.
Speaker 7 (32:10):
I think it's dangerous and it has no impact on
New Zealand. First in terms of them impressing us. We're
going ahead with the remit that we passed. There will
be no regional councils after the next election.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
You might get some support in Canterbury for that also
south and they're not too happy down there either.
Speaker 7 (32:28):
But I reckon the best days of your council down
there in the Canterbury area. It was when they had
no elected members and a lot of things got done
under the redoubtable Margaret Baisley. And look, we've had other
models in the past. I mean the Labor Party introduced
a model where a lot of the health boards were
a mix of elected people, but very technically proficient people
(32:54):
appointed by the minister. And what's happened with a lot
of the regional councils. They've turned into a form for
vanity projects. They've turned into a platform where a narrow
cast of people with weak accountability are imposing not only
their costs but the most extreme interpretations of environmental nature
(33:15):
onto the god fearing men and women trying to make
a living out of our legacy industry. So it's just
not sustainable. They've long since moved away from pragmatic stop
bank management. Can't even dig gravel out of a road
for a road out of a river, and of course
what do echoes covered with gravel and rocks because people
wouldn't allow those rivers to be dug up. It's madness.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Good to see you going into bat for the farmers,
Shane Jones. You are, of course the Minister of Fisheries
as well. Have you hung the fishermen fisher people of
just to be politically We're woken correct of Otago out
to dry with your overnight blanket ban on set net
fishing on the Otago coast. This is a multimillion dollar business.
(34:01):
You are protecting the yellow eyed penguins, which is laudable,
but what makes them more important than hectors, dolphins, skinks,
lizards or blind frogs.
Speaker 7 (34:12):
Well, there is a lady down there, Chanel Gardner, I
think her name is, and she released a press statement
on behalf of the fishing industry in and around Otago,
encouraging and almost pleading with the government to introduce a
set of measures. That brought us some time to come
(34:35):
up with a permanent set of remedies which may or
may not be a closure. But because it's the nesting
time and there is a sense that fishing is imperiling
the remaining population. But I have to say it is
a difficult decision, and I'm conscious that there are some
(34:56):
families down there. But at the same time, there is
a small matter of social license, and we've pushed a
great deal of accent an emphasis on the fact that
the phishing leader of that area released a press statement
saying it was a good idea.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Three hundred and eighty reported hiho Ur yellow eyed penguin
deaths are since twenty twenty of the three hundred and
eighty reported deaths and this is from the Official Information Act.
Twelve have been by set Net. I'm hearing Shane Jones
that the main reason for the decline and the population,
and it is a bit of a perilous decline, is
(35:32):
due to disease and predation.
Speaker 7 (35:36):
Yeah, without a doubt, the chicks do suffer various physical
afflictions because they're being picked up and pick into the
Dunedin Bird Hospital. I'm quite sure how that works. And
there are other diseases that are afflicting them and we
are working on a long term mitigation strategy will doctors.
(35:56):
But look, I'd just say often to do a great good,
you have to do a little wrong. And I accept
it in the minds of the local fishes it was
the wrong thing to do, But they wouldn't want to
be branded either, unnecessarily as having a disproportionately large impact
on this fragile population. But don't fret, there's no suggestion
(36:20):
that it's going to permanently remain.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
We bought ourselves some time.
Speaker 7 (36:23):
It's different from Marwi's Dolphin because there is no Marwi's dolphin.
There's no such thing in the skinks.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
Every time a.
Speaker 7 (36:31):
Cocky plows up a paddic for barley or whatever they
do down the South Island. There's lots of skinks who
run away or hide so they avoid the tractor tire.
And it's only my beloved mining industry that gets penalized.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
What about the blind frogs. Wouldn't you be unlucky if
you were a blind frog and I don't know, I'm
the christ Flat or somewhere up there where they're doing mining,
and you couldn't get out of the way of the
heavy machinery.
Speaker 7 (36:56):
The blind frog is located in Paramandle, two hundred meters
above the location of the underground tunnels needed for mining gold.
And what the greenies are telling me is that when
they detonate to expand the tunnel and extract the gold
and various other properties that might be found under the
earth trembles, the earth quivers and it could interfere, I'm told,
(37:18):
with the mating habits of the blind frock. Well, you
know when I went to Saint Stephen's school when the
earth moved, it had a different meaning.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
I'm sure it did. Well, thank you very much for
your time. We're going to go out with the webit
of CCR and Fortunate Son. That probably describes you now
because Winston has officially anointed you.
Speaker 7 (37:38):
And I'm very appreciative of the recognition and I'll get
on with the money.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
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Speaker 1 (38:02):
Good morning.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
My name's Jamie McKay and has promised a bit of
CCR to round out the show. Fortunate Sun. The Best
of the Country's brought to you by Rabobank. We are
growing a better New Zealand together. Darcy's going to have
all the action from England the big semi final, the
Black Ferns up against Canada. We'll update halftime scoring action
(38:23):
at the top of the hour here on News Talk
ZB and lots more to come between seven and nine
on Sports Talk with Darcy. Wherever you are this weekend,
enjoy your weekend. I know it's the weather's been a
bit challenging for you farmers, but trust me, can only
get better. I'm going to leave you with Credence, clear
Water Revival, A.
Speaker 8 (39:00):
Lone as a mom mom ol Samy Jemmy, I'm on
the song, Mmy Renny, I know Watnate, Mom say ny A.
(39:22):
I not watching a more semi leamy.
Speaker 6 (39:29):
I'm no mo
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