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January 11, 2026 38 mins

Hamish McKay talks to Wayne Langford, Mike McIntyre, Kate Scott, Simon Goss, and Phil Duncan.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The Country with Hamish mackay and Farmland's advice you can trust,
products you can count on.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
I would slain Dolphins, Lake Dolphins, Slam. Welcome into the
Country the first episode for twenty twenty six, Hamish mackay.
Great to have your company in for Jamie McKay. Jamie,

(00:40):
I never thought i'd call Jamie a jaffer, but when
I was out there, I'm in Auckland for the week,
and you know, as I bided my time between the
Uddle or two, the Mighty Moddle two and Auckland, hardly.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Any traffic on the road.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
I don't think anybody's at work in Auckland this week.
So Jamie bing away, I sort of thought, well, I'd
just call them a jaffer, you know, staying away from
an the week, but quite happy to be here and
keeping you company over the next hour here on the
country with a Farmland standing by. Approbably little bit of
David Bowie going on in the background here because it's
ten years since a great man passed away.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Hero is one of the great songs.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Turn, of course, very shortly we're going to be talking
to an absolute hero in my view, and I'm sure
many others. Hero of the ag sector, El Presidente and
Federated Farmers Wayne Langford down there in Golden Bay. We're
going to talk to Wayne very shortly. Also coming up,
well Cheez, some interesting news around Simon Goss's incredible legendary

(01:40):
seven hundred and thirty two US on the full wall
US and the nine hours record of course last week
set in the way Marino district, but a bit of
a there was almost a meltdown pretty early literally and.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
We're talking about him too.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
We're going to find out more about that when we
go down to sort of the Wong and Over region
because apparently Simon's gotten a hard days yacka with his
old man Allen on the farm today, so we'll catch
up with Simon. We'll analyze the latest GDT, pretty good
start of the year. There, we'll talk to Mike McIntyre
from Jardin's get a bit of commentary around that, and
will dissect the Queensland fruit fly along with other things

(02:19):
horticulture with the CEO of holding Z Kate Scott and
of Courser Phil Duncanwoore from weather watch dot co dot Nz.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
We'll check out the weather.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Those winds around the country causing a few problems and
the Hawk's bay wider wrapper and for a few planes
up in the sky there a few of the old
petrol budgetes are having to stay on the ground because
of the high winds around the country. Right now, standing
by for the President of Federated Farmer as a real hero.

(02:51):
Why Langford, sir, how are you okay?

Speaker 4 (02:54):
Not to you said twenty twenty six? Jeez, it doesn't
seem that long since I was twenty six. I think
it's pay when sucks now? Man's that snuck blow pretty quick?

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Yeah, it's just unbelievable, wasn't it. Why? And they just
the years just fly by recently turned. I can't even
can't even quite get out. I can't even quite get
it out. And I think how fast my first thirty
years went, and then I don't know, how slowly my
first thirty and then the next thirty is sort of
but she just motors by, doesn't it. It's quite incredible anyway.

(03:25):
How's your Christmas bake bringing? How things looking in the
Golden Bay?

Speaker 4 (03:30):
It's been great. Actually, I've been had a couple of
weeks here at home on the farm, which is fantastic.
The farm's looking decent. We're just starting to dry out now,
so welcoming some rain next weekend, although hopefully not on Saturdays.
We've got the big Golden bayamp show here which is
the biggest event of the year, and we'll really look

(03:50):
forward to that, so hopefully not too much rain. But yeah,
we'll take a bit of rain.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
And we can get it.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
And Golden Bay is looking looking all right forward it's
been so far yep.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Okay, So now you've got a bit of a start
to the year too, with one of the one of
the children, one of the son off to what after
Lincoln after Uni.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
Yeah, well, well we've actually got we've actually got a
bit of an empty ness going on. We've got I've
got one at Canabury Union, one at Lincoln University this year,
and in my third one seating evidentally on a student exchange.
So my wife and I we've got an empty nest
which will happen pretty quick and so so no doubt
I'll be getting out amongst the traps a bit more
to say a few more people, and probably taking my

(04:29):
lovely wife with me to see some of that as well,
which would be good.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah, and look, if you got any advice for the
one the empty nesting and rural parents who've got their
kids hitting away on things like you know, exchanges and
heading off to university and the lake.

Speaker 4 (04:44):
Oh advice, I'm probably waiting to seek some advice going
into it. But all I can say for those were
kids on farm and stuff is and enjoy it while
at lasts, because man, those last few years go pretty quick.
And exactly when you check a for your girlfriends and
stuff in there and they want to spend more time
with them than they do with you, it's it's hard
to get any farm work done. So so no, no,

(05:05):
like SA, they just enjoy well at last, but it's
cool to see them soon them branching out and they're
heading off the Lincoln that's where I went as well,
so it'll be a good time for a middle boy Gordion,
not oubt for sure.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
Well I dropped my son off at Lincoln four years
ago and now he's working as a valuer and tagapoona
in Auckland. So it just and that was the last
time that the one and only Richard Lowe had me
to stay, so I haven't had many So that's how
quickly four years goes quite incredible.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
A O case.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
Federated Farmers twenty twenty five. I mean there are some
good results I thought around the mission targets and the
banking inquiry RMA and consents and what's on the radar
for twenty six. What are some of the targets.

Speaker 4 (05:46):
Yeah, well, I think you're probably downplaying some of those
results there. So I'm in the banking Clora is one
of the most significant banking inquirers we've had in twenty
thirty years. Of the missions targets absolutely as well. And
I say this because we've got to be careful that
we don't underestimate some of this work that's going on,
and some of the work that's being done is it
is game changing for the agricultural sector and so it's

(06:07):
great to see the Minister, mister maclay working on it
and the Prime Minister as well to make this happen
for farmers. But at the same time, now twenty twenty six,
we've going to lock in and get these results locked
in and make sure they actually mean something. We do
still have a few like you just brought up the
how and May. We've got the changes to the local government,
all the submissions coming in on those in February so
a lot of the Feeds team have come back to

(06:29):
work early to get those submissions done. So again that's
I mean, that's why we pay our Feeds membership writers,
so that we've got a team here in Welton that
that can get these submissions in for us and get
a result. So yes, it's going to be a big year,
no doubt, and looking forward to it actually so to
see what other ones we can get for farmers.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
It didn't mean to down plant way, but you know
we're as farming times, we're modest by nature, you know
what I mean. I mean, if I reframe it monumental
wins in twenty twenty fives, I'll go with it.

Speaker 4 (07:03):
I fully understand where you come from this. I guess, well,
I'm a shock of myself. So sometimes you get the
winner and you're like, oh that's good, Now what's next?
You know, sometimes when we did have a bit of
a reflection. I remember our last board meeting there we
had a bit of a reflection of hey, what we
have achieved this year. You know there was some good, solid,
chunky wins there and farmers should be really proud that

(07:23):
feed the representing them the best news Somerson's that the
membership is starting to tick back up, and it's the
first time it's done that in a long time, and
so that's great. And if you're thinking about being a
member now, this is the time to sign up. And
if you've got a reason why you're not a member, hey,
I'd love to hear it, because they are the probably
the things that we want to go on and battle
you for as well. So that's what it's all about.

(07:44):
And the more we can have on the team, the
better because that gives us a stronger voice when we
go to represent those in path.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Okay election year. Three years since federal departments presented a
list of twelve priorities pre election and twenty three will
there'll be another another list or another trial priorities.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
I mean, what what and what would be the top
of that list?

Speaker 4 (08:05):
Yeah, we are working on another list in it it's
a little bit tricky because because yeah, like I say,
we are driving for results and a number of the
things that we have on the list already have already
been tacked off and and come through some of those
RMA changes as well. So we'll wait till a bit
later into the year to let our list out. We
won't be rushing into there, but but it'll be focused

(08:28):
around driving a highly performing farming business.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
You know our last manifesto was around restoring farmer confidence. Well,
you know the results in the surveys would say that
we've definitely done that. Now how do we how do
we capitalize on that and also you know, make sure
that our businesses are thriving because I think I think
New Zealand and particularly the government is starting to pick
up on when we have really strong farming businesses. New

(08:53):
Zealand has really has a really strong performance and and
so that's what we'll be pushing for. And that's that's
digging down unto those little things and some of these
little things that we'll be focusing on this year as feeds.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
Yep, fantastic right. I won't thank you very much for
your time.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
That is Wayne Langford, President of Federated Farmers or the
heroes of the Exit and modest But he's did right.
They need to bask in the glory of some of
the achievements, the fine achievements of.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
Twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Coming up on the show The Country today, we're going
to be hearing from Mike McIntyre from Jarden's the latest
GDT that was a booming start of the year, Hardens
It's CEO Kate Scott. I want to have people got
on down and sort of central with the bit of
the rain with the cherries.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
We'll find out some more about that.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Simon Goss unbelievable sharing record last week. How's he doing
a week later? And Phil Duncan from weather watchtop coat
on instead all coming up on the country right at

(10:05):
this time for some commentary on the old GDT with
a bit of a cracking old start to the year.
And of course the man who does a great job
of this for us in the country, Mike McIntyre, Jarden's
head of commodities, kid.

Speaker 5 (10:18):
A Mike, how are you Hamish?

Speaker 3 (10:21):
Happy New Year?

Speaker 5 (10:21):
Mery Christmas for last year as well.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
So yeah, good to be at a twenty twenty sixty
years still you know, like you're still away, you know,
I think we're allowed to admit to that, or you know,
because I can't tell you what the traffic I go
to my I'd buy my time between Auckland and the
matter or two and I tell you what it was.
I don't think anybody's gone to work in Auckland today,
judging by the roads when I was out in about
getting a coffee earlier this morning, So you're allowed to

(10:44):
be away.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
It's all right.

Speaker 5 (10:45):
You know, it's my birthday today, so I managed to
sneak down one I fixed in the holiday by day
and not start back in the office until tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
So got on your happy birthday anyway. Yeah, yeah, good stuff.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
So a bit well, that was a quite a booming
old start for the first GDT of the year, a
cracking start.

Speaker 5 (11:02):
And something that we desperately needed as well. So I
think we'd had a near record level of falls in
the you know, the bi monthly auctions, but we got
a hint of it the week before with the pulse event,
which we'll have another one tomorrow evening as well. It's
sort of be interesting to watch for that. And there
was just a sense that maybe we'd seen that the
declines come to an end, but what we got we
certainly didn't expect in terms of the magnitude of the increase,

(11:25):
the six percent, and I think it'll put a smile
on farmers' faces and obviously the rest of the provincial
New Zealand and the whole in New Zealand in fact,
when we're looking for good news stories to start the year.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Yeah, yeah, so some depth to it. I mean, it
has some sort of magnitude. It wasn't some sort of
blip on the radar.

Speaker 5 (11:42):
Well, we'll need another eventual suitor to confirm it. But yeah,
if there was going to be just an arresting of
the falls, then you wouldn't expect to see.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
Such a big increase.

Speaker 5 (11:51):
There was a smaller number of successful bidders, so there
was obviously a couple of key parties were interested in
securing products. You know, I had a Chinese New Year
perhaps for one, perhaps you know, reason for it being
an immediate need, but we'll take anything we again, right,
So the rest of the global dairy outlookers remained soft

(12:12):
just because of the amount of production and certainly while
we're having some hot days at the moment around most
of the country, well certainly in the North Island, there
has been plenty of rain and so the grass is
you can almost hear the grass growing outside. So to
see a you know, a price jump off this magnitude,
as I said, is certainly very encouraging for the start
to the new year.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Cracking I'll start to the new year, because there was
that sort of feeling of at one minute, we're like,
we're going to be pushing eleven dollars or ten fifty ten,
nine seventy nine. It was sort of coming in the
wrong direction for you know, you would, as you say,
the smile was starting to come off the face of
the average dairy farmer, even though most of them have
got a pretty good sort of number coming into the

(12:53):
account and a not too distant future.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
From another side of things, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (12:57):
But sentiments just as important as well. So we talk
about fundament tools and how that drives values and prices,
but sentiment, and especially at this time of the year
where you know we're coming off our peak, but there's
still plenty of production around and it's just around the
corner from the Northern Hemisphere really starting to ramp things up,
it's important to get that momentum back in and I
think that's what happened last Tuesday evening. We got a

(13:18):
kick in the in the pants from some of the
buyers and what that will mean for the rest of
the Byside community will be those who are sitting on
their hands waiting for the product to come to them.
They will be now forced to get off the fence
and take some mash, which is fantastic.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah, fantastic news, It's fantastic. You've got your birthday today.
Might won't keep me any longer. Go and enjoy that
with the family and we'll catch up again soon.

Speaker 5 (13:40):
Thanks a much, and look forward to the rest of
the earth.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
Thanks mate, chap out.

Speaker 6 (13:43):
When's it go out.

Speaker 7 (13:53):
Right?

Speaker 3 (13:53):
It is time to talk.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
All things are hort a culture now in Z's CEO,
Kate Scott joins us on the count. Can I Kate,
how's your summer going. You're back into things.

Speaker 8 (14:04):
I am back into things, thank you. Look easing my
way back in after a cold start to the to
the break period in Central Attago. I've come back to
Wellington for some sunshine, which is a remarkable thing to say.
Most people don't say they come to Wellington to the sunshine.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
No, that's you know, that's something about face, isn't it
if you if you think of that and weather terms,
isn't it?

Speaker 4 (14:24):
I mean exactly right?

Speaker 2 (14:26):
Yeah, So you're what so homes down Central? I mean
I guess I got what I suppose that cold and
wet weather the old cherries might have taken a bit
of a bashing too down there.

Speaker 8 (14:36):
Look, certainly the brain over the Christmas New Year period
was not helpful for some of our cherry growers. But
a slip side is that is that the season itself
seems to be running a couple of weeks late this
year because we had a cooler start to the spring,
and so we have a number of our exporters to
gearing up for Chinese New Year, which is a little
bit later this year, starting around the seventeenth Tote three.

(14:59):
So there's a lot of expectation that the late season
actually could be to our grower's advantage because we're now
starting to heat up a little bit that should help things.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
It's a discovery of a male Queensland fruit fly in
Auckland last week. You know it shows I guess that.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
We are vulnerable or are we onto it with early detection.

Speaker 8 (15:20):
Well, look, I think you know, there's a little bit
of truth to both of those things. Certainly New Zealand
is vulnerable, and I think that's in part because you know,
we're a small, isolated nation that doesn't have too many
piss so every time something finds its way here we
should be concerned. About that. But the flip side of
that is we do have a robust surveillance and monitoring
program and this fly was found in one of those

(15:43):
routine monitoring traps, So that shows that the system is
working from a detection perspective. And look, you know, we
have a high degree of confidence in the process that
MPI are running around trying to eradicate this fruit fly.
But at the same time, you know, if it were
to take hold, that could have you know, a substantial
impact on the quatter culture sector generally.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
Okay, so let's look down the India FDA announcement before Christmas.
Apples among the winners there, you know, take us through
the sort of the winds there.

Speaker 8 (16:18):
Yeah, a lot. The FDA with India does some some
really long, good long term opportunities for the whole quarter
culture sector. And I think if you start with apples,
as you alluded to, you know, apples are going to
receive a fifty percent tariff production within a relatively large
quota window, which is positive for the apple sector. Kiwi
fruit they too, also had a good outcome from those negotiations,

(16:42):
which would indicate that key fruit was able to gain
duty free access for a substantive substantive quota more than
four times the average export volumes, and outside of that quota,
key fruit would get about a fifty percent reduction in tariff.
So for our true largest horticultural crop, that signals great
news for them and for the sector moving forward. And

(17:05):
I think one of the other exciting things is a
number of our much smaller crops though cherries, avocados, persmon,
blueberries would also all be looking for moves to dirty
free access over a ten year period, which for those
smaller Tier two crops again signals a huge opportunity for
continued growth for them as well.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Now, how are we looking in terms of the season
in general and bearing in mine. We've got this sort
of ten year road map and aiming at doubling horticultural
farm gate returns by twenty thirty five. What are the
sort of how are we going and what are the
varieties for twenty twenty six?

Speaker 8 (17:40):
Yeah, Look, the season has started pretty well for a
number of our crops. If we start with you know, vegetables.
Vegetable varieties are continuing to have pretty good supply throughout
the country, which in most part is thanks to a
good growing and harvest conditions over the last month or two.
We're currently just starting to move into what is peak
onion seasons, especially in Pockykoe and warm drow weather is

(18:04):
pretty good for them at this time in the year.
Our Canterbury based vegetable growers have had a pretty good
run over the last two weeks, although there are a
small number who were quite significantly impacted by that recent
hail event as well, and so a bit of a
mixed bag for some of them. But look, domestically, we've
had a really solid start to the season for put fruit.

(18:27):
That hot sunny weather particularly and Hawks Bays contributing to
good growth there. And they were also pretty excited about
that steady rain between Christmas and New Year's because in
Hawk's Bay that finished most of the cherries and we're
looking for the rain for their apples and so the
next few weeks will be pretty important for them. But look,
I think if you look to the what does next

(18:47):
look like? Well this year in late December we had
MPI release their Sophie Reports. What's projected or projects auticulture
export revenue to rise to roughly nine point two billion
for the US year ending thirty June. You know, we
continue to see strong positive outlook in the export space,
but are also wanting to make sure that that continues

(19:11):
to float through to the profitability behind the farm gate
for our rowism and that's where that RT of Whatater
Culture Action Plan plays a really big part of that.
How do we make sure that all those settings are
right for that?

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yep, Kate Scott hoot en Z's CEO Crystal Ball time now,
I guess and a little carveat on this.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
I ban the words green and.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
Shoots, which might be quite difficult given the sector that
you're in. But your predictions for twenty twenty six, Oh look.

Speaker 8 (19:41):
I think it's going to be a fruitful twenty twenty
sixth There you go. So I think we're going to
We're going to see, you know, a bit of a
strong focus on a bunch of the reform that's underway
at present. Obviously ARIMA reform drops this pre Christmas. That
will continue to have a significant bearing on are you
know what what our growers can they can't do within

(20:02):
their land, but also, you know, looking beyond that, how
do we continue to make sure that there is strong
prices for our growers seeking to sell their crops off shore?
But how do we also maintain a really robust domestic market.
Because what our growers do, particularly our vegetable growers, but
also domestically focused fruit growers doers they help us to

(20:25):
actually feed these cylinders, and that too is incredibly important.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Absolutely it is. Kate Scott, thank you very much for
joining us. Much appreciated than.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
Kate Scott.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
Hoot end Zed's CEO. Apologies to those who've missed the
early part of the show today. I mean it could
be something in the wind. They're having a bit of
effect around the country. Well maybe it was because I
called in my intro that you wouldn't have heard Jamie
Mackia Jeffer. Maybe Jamie sort of you know, I put
the old voodoo dole pen into me.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
He wouldn't do that.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Okay, Coming up, we're going to talk to Simon Goss,
legendary shearer, Phil Duncan, weather Watch dot Cote on NZ.
We'll check in and very shortly lights in news and
a sport.

Speaker 9 (21:12):
Heaven less slashback Leazers aid all your razors while pulling
the reader talking about non rolls.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
The country with farmlands, HARMERSH McKay.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
And the chair for JB. Mckayd today, first day back
this year in twenty twenty six, are coming up across
the rest of us. How we're going to catch up
with the lean, mean shearing machine himself, Simon Gospel. Right now,
it's time for a bit of rural news.

Speaker 6 (21:46):
And sport, the country's world news with Could Cadet, New
Zealand's leading right on lawn Bower Brand visit steel for
dot Cote on n Z for your local stuckist.

Speaker 10 (21:57):
Yeah, thanks, Hamish, And we're catching up with Phil Duncan
towards the end of our hopefully I've enough time for
film find out what's going on with the weather around
the country. But at the moment, high winds have whipped
up forest fires. With the sweltering heat up in the
North Island, high temperatures are going to persist for much
of New Zealand today after many centers were pushed towards
heat records on Sunday. I can tell you now, Jamish

(22:19):
that Hamish, Sorry not Jamish. I'm mixing up. First day back, brilliant,
it's terrible going first day back tomorrow will be better,
but I can tell you right now Dunedin, it's definitely
not a heat wave looking outside, but hopefully we get
a little bit of warmth at some point the sunshining.
So that's a good start and you've got a bit

(22:40):
of sport there. Hang on, I'll play the sting for.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
You here Sports on the country with AFCO invested in
your foaming success.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
Alrighty ho. Huge blow for the Highlanders and super Rugby
Otago New Zealand hunderd twenties rising star Dyland Preedger is
out for twelve months ACL injury. That yeah, they're twelve
months that you don't get over those and a hurry
obviously going to be operated on.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
But a massive blow for the young man there.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Asp classic tennis, the boy from Pacaranga of course these days,
of course plays under the British flag Cam nine, number eight,
number twenty eight in the warld is playing Hugo gat
And that's the action tonight. And the Board of Sport
New Zealand is getting the chief executive. They go to
the market and they are asking that their chief executive,
Railing Castle reapplies for the job. So the fairly interesting

(23:31):
old twist with that one, isn't it. Railing is going
to take on a five month temporary position while they
go through what is considered best practice across the government
to go to the market upon completion of contracts.

Speaker 11 (23:47):
That's some sport, nothing looking part.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
You're listening to the country HABERSH. McKay in for JB.
McKay for this week, the well the first week of
the country for twenty twenty six. Last week, what a
hell of a day it was down there and why
Marino Country for one Young Simon Goss setting the world
record on the full wall use for nine hours and

(24:25):
joins us. Now get a Simon, how's the body? Sort
of a week later?

Speaker 12 (24:29):
Yeah, the body's I'd say, I'm pretty much fully recovered.
Now we're feeling pretty good, actually fully refreshed.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
It's been good. And the old man Gossie, he's got
you out working already on the farm, but not shearing
or in the wall sheet keeping away from that. Yeah.

Speaker 12 (24:46):
I sure a couple of sheep at the tea Woody
speeds here the other night, but no.

Speaker 5 (24:50):
Yeah, since the.

Speaker 12 (24:51):
Record, are there only things I've done?

Speaker 3 (24:53):
Really?

Speaker 12 (24:53):
Today we're marking calves and I had to tell him
all i'd just been a shoot away, I've a got
a got an interview and he's then just rolled his eyes.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
He'd be say, with that useless bug of makai for
rapid anyway, that's all right, that's all right. But did
you hurt for a bit of time after that? Because
I love that shot of you when you finished the
last side of the last one. You stand up and
you take a step into you sort of lean backwards
and oh, I guess a massive range of feelings and emotions.

Speaker 12 (25:23):
Yeah, I guess I definitely hurt towards the end. It was,
you know, the body had been pushed to its limits
the whole day, and it was I guess it's just
a more of a sense of relief, like you know,
we finally got to the end of the nine hours
and there's only one sheet that's got us over the line.
But it was just a yeah, like you said, a
huge range of emotions of just oh, thank god, that's

(25:46):
over and you know we've done it. You will have
achieved the goals. So yeah, but definitely the hurt probably
showed a little bit earlier on during the day. The
second run was probably the worst one of the lots,
but yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yeah, was that where you had a couple throwing out
as well? The couple were throwing.

Speaker 12 (26:04):
Out in the third run, right, Yeah, just a bit
of ill disciplined on my side of things. But the
second run was we had issues with the epon it.
The drip tray had filled up and had sort of
turned off, so it had just started pumping hot air
at me for half an hour.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
That's about the last thing you need.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
Hey.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
We are aware of the sort of the I don't
know that, the wider interest of people online, and the
fact that the shit itself was absolutely packed, and then
you've got all those people who've got buy and it's
like it's like everybody's taking every blow with you.

Speaker 4 (26:41):
You know.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
The volunteer is just huge input.

Speaker 12 (26:46):
I sort of knew the magnitude of this record, Like
obviously Dad and I from a young age we sort
of you know, looked at it as the holy grail
of Shearing records and then the likes of Rod stuff
and you know, beside me the whole day and you know,
he's held that record and he only beat it by
one on his day too. So like we knew the

(27:08):
record itself was massive, but the following side of it,
I probably didn't know it at the time. More's trying
to keep away from that side of it, just to
not try and you know, get it in my head
that it was it was that big sort of thing.
But yeah, have to you know, looking back at footage
and you know the messages and stuff I've received in

(27:29):
the last week, it's, oh yeah, there was a massive
you know, international following as well, not just New Zealands.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
When you got that fourth run cats literally with a
second or so to go.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
This is a fine line between pleasure and pain.

Speaker 12 (27:44):
Yeah, it was at the time, I didn't really I
knew it was getting close, and it wasn't until afterward,
you know, sat down for smoker and they said, oh,
you're quite lucky to get that one. And when you
put it down to the whole day and the scheme
of things, you.

Speaker 5 (27:58):
Know, that's essentially where beaten the record.

Speaker 12 (28:02):
Obviously you know all day to do it, but you
know those fine margins, that's where you know, that's where
sort of cross the line.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
Have you had any more thoughts about other records or
that if if somebody does come along and do seven
thirty three, that you'd have another crack, or is that
it is it such a big event that maybe yet
you have one decent crack at it and move on.

Speaker 6 (28:24):
Ah.

Speaker 12 (28:25):
Yeah, I I've always thought of opportunities. You know, if
there's another opportunity to have another A Crackitt either well
pretty much another record, then I'd be all for it.
But you know, life goes on and if things change, Yeah,
it's I just sort of take it as it goes
with that sort of thing, just because of the massive
amounts of work that goes into it physically on my behalf.

(28:49):
But yet you know, all the people involved, it's yeah,
they don't Records don't happen overnight. You know, this one
was probably thirteen fourteen months in the making, so I've
organized and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
I think Simon, you have done over eight hundred lambs
right in a nine hour day, but without.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
The pressure of the of the record.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
How different is that mindset when you know that there's
just so much writing on and you can't just sort of,
you know, flick the hand piece off the downpipe and
walk out if you wanted to.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
You just got to keep going.

Speaker 12 (29:23):
Yeah, it definitely changes things and the pressure of judges
and stuff like that. And after the first record to
this one, it was something I had to work on mentally,
was just try and block them out as much as
I can. Obviously you've got to you know, you've still
got to stick to the quality side of that. But

(29:45):
it was just, yeah, trying to work on just being
comfortable in the uncomfortable of the day. And yeah, it's
sort of hard to explain, but that was sort of
the biggest thing, was just you know, embracing it and
just let it go and you go.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
With the day.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
You talked about pre the event, you talked about the
help you've had from the record holder Matsmith himself, and
then you had your you know, all that nutrition stuff
and massaging during the day. A lot goes into it,
didn't you know, did you any time did you did
you feel like you were going to crack or do
you always feel like you're on top of it?

Speaker 12 (30:22):
Ah? Nah, that second run, I was there was a
lot running through the mind at that During that run
was when the econ switched off, which at the time
I didn't notice anything was wrong. I just thought I'm
getting pretty hot here, and you know, the body started
cramping up, and like a lot of things are running

(30:42):
through the mind going you know, there's been a lot
of people riding on this, there's a lot of people
helping me and you know, you know, putting a lot
of work, and it was, yeah, it's something. I stood
up to change my cutter and I could feel the
air blowing on my face and I was like to
the David Gordon, he was standing next to me, and
I was like, man, this this thing's blowing warm mirror

(31:03):
at me.

Speaker 5 (31:03):
And he sort of just.

Speaker 12 (31:05):
Took a second to register what I said, and then
he got someone to go and have a look at
the econ in you. As soon as they fixed that,
the earcon started working again. And you know, once that happened,
I thought, you know, mentally, I was like, okay, we're
back on We're back on target again, and we're away.
But yeah, at that time it was I was thinking,
if it carries on like this, I won't be able

(31:25):
to finish the day.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
Yeah, well that's see, that's a remarkable sort of sidebar
to the whole record attempt that I guess that not
too many are aware of. And you're that you're in.
You're in a bit of trouble and it's just the
second run. So hey, simon, we won't keep you from
the old man Allen for too long. You better go
and do some work mate, and you keep you out there,
earn your lunch and congratulations again, fantastic effort. And you know,

(31:49):
I suppose you now what are are you going to
turn your tention to have a bit of a crack
at the shears and everything like that World Championship year,
all that sort of stuff happening and big, big, big,
big lot of shows coming up.

Speaker 12 (31:58):
Yeah, I definitely want to have a bit more of
a chance Marham and the show's a bit more it was,
you know, the last couple of years it has been a
big focus on this record and record cheering and show
sharing are two totally different styles and that. So but
now that we've ticked that off the list, we can
sort of focus a bit more on the shows and
go that way. So yeah, entered in Golden Shares with

(32:21):
the World Champs this year, So I won't be trying
to be in the World team or anything like that.
But no, I've got my entry in for just the
Goldie for yeah. Will we put in a good board
for that great stuff.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
Simon gods Sex very much for joining us, awesome, thank
you just.

Speaker 6 (32:37):
Are one day.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
You're on the country, Hamish McKay And for Jmie MacKaye.
The full show will be available on podcast today, the
full show because we had a few gremlins in the
system earlier on, so you can cheer out the whole
shot box, the whole shebang, going back to the one
that you would have missed early on, which was one
of our the reason for David Bowie obviously ten years
on from David Bowie passing, but the song hero is

(33:11):
one of our AGGS sector heroes himself, mister Wayne Langford Dell,
Presidente of Federated Farmers and some of the incredible things
that they achieved in twenty twenty five and looking to
continue that on in twenty twenty six. Tiver look at
the weathern Hour, wather Watch, dot co, dot Zed, Phil
Dunk and Phil Welcome to twenty twenty six. How have

(33:32):
you traveled over the summer?

Speaker 7 (33:33):
Thank you very much. Yeah, happy new year to you. Oh,
very good things. Yeah, I had some brilliant whare the
one all the thunderstorms at the end of December finally
disappeared from the Upper North Island where I was. But yeah,
thirty degrees yesterday with clear blue skies was pretty good.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Yeah, Phil, It's been interesting though around parts that I've
heard from a lot of people who experienced the old
thunderstorms and sort of four seasons in one day, but
they feels so they got as a as a rule,
the majority got enough of the old sunshine ours across
the country.

Speaker 7 (34:03):
Yeah, I mean we've actually had pretty good, you know,
balance of things. I said, think last time we talked,
I was saying some is going to be full of variety,
which is great. The farmer is not so good for campers,
and so I means you get a bit of everything
thrown at you. And so while we are seeing some
regions wetter than usual at the moment, especially around parts
of Auckland, Waikatou and Northern Hawk's Bay Gaspin area, we're

(34:27):
also seeing some fridays coming through And as obviously we've
just had with all this heat, you know, the sort
of a balancing act which we'll get rid of some
of that moisture that helped make the grass grow and
help make other plants grow.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Yeah. So I guess, so, I guess we're not too
bad a position. But around the country, is there anybody
that's perhaps suffering a little bit too much from a
too much moisture or lack of it.

Speaker 7 (34:51):
I think that the northeastern corner of the North Island
East Cape down to sort of central parts of Hawk's Bay,
they had a fair bit of rain. Whether it's too much,
you know, I mean it's been very dry in some
of those areas as well in the last year, but
I think that that one area may be a little
bit too wet at the moment. The Far North and
Munowa two are two areas that are getting a little dry,

(35:12):
and I think you might find some people around Southland
and Otago not so happy at the moment with the temperatures.
Not it's necessarily causing a problem in the big picture,
but if it drags on, which it might do this
week in some areas, not the best for some growers.
But overall, it's a pretty good mix of weather around
the country. Despite the wind. They might get annoying for some.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
Yeah, that wind is quite problematic in the hawks By
and why I wrapple with a couple of fires, and
I understand a few of the old Any Zealand petrol
budgies have had to stay grounded because of the wind
as well.

Speaker 7 (35:42):
Yeah, yeah, gusty sort of weather. We've a lot of
energy south of New Zealand and we've got more energy
developing north of the country over the next seven days.
Could be a tropical cyclone up around New Caledonia by
the weekend. But the reason why that's important not the cyclone,
but the low pressure all up there and high pressure
down around New Zealand. It actually means that we may
move away from the westerlies that we're getting and get

(36:05):
more normalis and easterlies coming back in sort of a
bit more money and you're like over the next week
or so, but the southern part of the country may
not be in that so much and may still have
this Culdar airflow coming through.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
Yeah, that's certainly feeling. One of my colleagues in the
Dunedin studio has been complaining about the cold weather today. Phil,
thank you very much. That is Phil Duncan weatherwatch dot
co dot nz. You are listening to the country. I'm
Hamish McKay and for Jamie McKay for the rest of
the week. As I mentioned the the full show will
be available on podcast today because of the well little

(36:37):
grandmins we had in that the system early on. Great
to hear from Simon Goss, I mean, Michelle, what an athlete.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
What an athlete that boy is.

Speaker 10 (36:48):
It's amazing, isn't it. I mean, I do a lot
of sport, you know this, and surance tight sport, and
I would consider sheep sharing, or just call it sheep sharing.
I'm having a terrible day to day. I ought sharing
definitely an assurance sport. It would be so hard. In fact,
one of my goals this year, and I want to
throw it out there, and I've thrown out there a
few times. I think, is I want to learn how
to share a sheet this year?

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Well I'm not the person to teach you, but I think,
what a good idea, what a good you could be
the next big thing, I tell you what.

Speaker 10 (37:17):
Well, someone asked if I would take it off. I
don't know about that though. I think it might be
a bit soft for the old sharing shed.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
I don't know whether this is urban myth or whatever,
urban legend or whatever. But the great Colin King, who
was the best left handed shearer we've ever had, fantastic sharer,
went on to be an MP for some time. He
always he took up running when he finished sharing his
sharing days, and he took up marathon running, said Absolute
Doddal Absolute Dodd because he'd already done a marathon by

(37:43):
lunchtime in a wool shed and had to turn around
do another one in the afternoon.

Speaker 10 (37:47):
Oh, I think sharing would be a lot harder. My
hat goes off to those guys and girls.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Yeah, absolutely, they are absolute legends and Simon Goss here.
I mean, as we said, there was only a second
or two between betting Matt Smith's record.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
Absolutely brilliant.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
This has been the Country will do it all again tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
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