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Good morning and welcome to the Best of the Country
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better New Zealand together. I'm Hamus McKay. Great to have
your company this morning. Test match footy tonight. You'll get
around to some club footy around the country today as well.
Filling in from a cousin Old Bo Luke or Luke Duke,
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which everyone hears. Jamie McKay, he'll be back in a
week or soo's time. Coming up on the show, the
Prime Minister on a buoyant primary sector, Our Farmer Panel,
the two Stews. They discuss bull sales two hundred and
twenty thousand magnificent and the booming red meat industry one
point six billion in the month of May, and Lawrence
(01:04):
Field discusses the importance of planning for succession. So important
it's all coming up on the Best of the Country
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Speaker 3 (01:45):
Well, red meat gang busters, great news that we heard yesterday.
Year on year up about forty percent. Dairy solid wool
is even showing some shining lights in Mitchellan Stars a plenty,
Prime Minister, good morning plenty to smile.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
About today, mate, how are you you.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Well, yeah, yeah, fighting for it.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Thank you. Really fantastic news, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
I mean, like you know, in April, which was you know,
in the middle of the fuel basis, we had the
biggest what we call trade surplus that means we're exporting
more to the world than we're importing. And in fact
we're actually in a positive territory with a surplus now,
first time in five years. And as you said, you know,
a lot of it's to do with the fact that
there's massive strength and red meat around the world. The
herds are all smaller in every other country and as
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huge demand as people are getting welfare and that's been
really good. So no, we're on fire. We've going to
keep it going. We want to double these exports and
that's what it's all about.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Too right now. Locally though, of course, these mitchell And
Stars for our restaurant just proves how good we are
at producing the best produce.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
Absolutely when you're off overseas, and the reputation of New
Zealand pasture fed red meat and milkers and darius fantastic.
But it's actually there's a whole bunch of people out
there in the world, you know, like tens of that
literally just followed the Michelin Guide and use their tourism
experience to go off and actually they're real foodies and
they just they build a whole tourism itinery around visiting
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Michelin restaurants. And so we uniquely as a government put
some investment into actually securing Micheland to get them to
come and assess New Zealand restaurants here. And of course
the Australians don't have it, which is really winding them up.
And that's great. So we'll get a lot of folk
coming into New Zealand who literally want to go and visit.
I think we've got one restaurant that's a two star
and we got fourteen that are one stars and some
very highly recommended restaurants as well. So it just raises
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the food culture of New Zealand internationally to a lot
of potential visitors and if this is the reason that
stops them going to Costa Rica or di Land or
some other country, they choose to come and spend their
next holiday in New Zealand. That's what it's all about.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Fantastic. Now we've wound the Aussies up a bit too,
because it might be that our economy is perhaps bubbling
along a little bit better than their, which raises the
point of the ocr I mean, do we just hold
and let things breathe?
Speaker 5 (03:56):
Yeah, well that'll be a decision for the Reserve Bank.
I mean, what I've got to make sure I'm doing
the right thing as the government by living within our means,
managing the revenues and the spending. But you're right, you
know a lot of what we've been doing about growing
the economy. You know, we saw the last quarter we
had zero point eight percent growth in the quarter, you know,
and then so in the last nine months we've grown
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the economy about two point one percent, which is really good.
I think it's we went into the crisis and the
fuel crisis and we didn't do stupid things of spraying
money around as much as that would have been easy
to do, but it just cranks up debt. It hurts
growth and it hurts inflation, which then puts more upward
pressure on interest rates. So I think we're going to
come out of it really clean and well. And you know,
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there's real momentum in the economy as we're seeing across
a number of our sectors now, which has really got
even manufacturing was up in the last quarterly data. Business
investment was up over three percent, and you saw yesterday
business confidence in New Zealand in June went up twenty
seven points, which is really fantastic that people think and
feel the economy as actually is recovering and improving and
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growing strongly, and I think we will be in good
shape relative to other countries.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Absolutely, rural contractors, of course, you know it's going to
start to get into a busy season there. They're making
a bit of noise about these situation with the heavy machinery,
the heavy tractors on the roads and the permits there
and who should pay for what? What's your take on that?
Because the John Deeas of this world and the massiw Fergusons,
they haven't been on Jenny Craig. They're getting bigger and bigger,
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aren't they. And so but they say their argument is
that they're the tire treads and everything, they're not doing
the damage that they once were.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
Yeah, it's interesting us down at field Days and I
had a good chat to one of one of the
one of the guys down there, and we were just
talking about that as a problem and the find that
they get hit with when when they're actually got the
big as are just moving it and there really isn't
an alternative for them. So you know, I do think
that's something we've got to have a look at as well.
Just went with particularly with the agricultural community there. But yeah,
because I was I spoke to one of the big
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sellers of the heavy equipment, but then I spoken one
of the big operators of it too, and you just thought, yeah,
we haven't quite got something right there. It doesn't seem
unreasonable that you should be able to run your tractor
down down a road to get to another paddock on
another side or a farm on another side.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
So yeah, I think we should look at that. I'm
very open to having good, good look at that.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Yeah, that's right, because I think the teen thousand dollars fine,
I think that they get does seem a little bit correct. Yeah,
A little bit of antiquating competed to some of that.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
Yeah, yeah, it seems excessive. And the second thing is
like it just seems like common sense. Right, Well, let's
just use some common sense here and just get it
set right for the relatively few cases of where it's used.
I mean, there is an issue. We did look at
what else we could do around regulation of having heavier
trucks and loads with more permission to use the roads.
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But you know, as particularly with the fuel crisis, thinking
about could we know save fuel in a situation we
had no supply or limited supply, And actually there's a
hell of a lot of damage done to the roads
with heavy trucks, and you know, when we've got you know,
we've been working really harder the last two years to
clear up potholes and make sure our roads are renewed
and updated and maintained.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
And so they've just.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Got to watch some of that.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
That's the side of it.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
But I think in this case it's rather to be
small scale. There's actually it's just been practical and pragmatic
and just having some common sense about it, because what's
the alternative and how is it supposed to work otherwise?
You know, i'dn't whether you watch Clarkson's farm, but there's
a class that one where he was trying to move
his big tructor across from one paddock to another, just
across a little country lane and he couldn't do it,
and then the cameras got switched off on the tractor
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ended up on the right paddock. So that was sort
of was a bit reminiscent of that.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
I was wondering if I sort of had if I'd
misheard this, but Treasury, Treasury talking about working on their
skill set. I would have thought that would be a
bit like Reuben Love turning up to All Black training
and Dave Renny saying, I need to teach you how
to kick.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
Yeah, Like it's pretty damning report, but it just sort
of and we've actually, you know, we've made a change
to the management since we've come on board in government,
and I think it's getting to be a much better place.
And you know, but that was a report looking back
to say, hey, listen, you know, you know, is there
real confidence and Treasury that actually we can do the
economic analysis, particularly that pertains to how you drive growth
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in an economy, like how we think about doing the
commercial cases for growth. So look, I think it's got
a lot better. I think, you know, we've got a
new Secretary of the Treasury end when he's attracting good
people into it. We've been very clear about our expectations
as ministers as to and government is what we want
from Treasury and we want them to get back to
a proper economic analysis, not just a lot of the
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kumbaya mush that we were having in the past. And
so I think he's doing a good job actually of
strengthening that and making it a more attractive place for
people to work.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Right. Things closer to hope. Mark Mitchell's ribs, Any update
on those from the parliamentary rugby match.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
Yeah, I saw him four times yesterday and each time
I tried to make him laugh, but that was carnage actually.
So what happens is this parliamentary rugby team and it
goes around the country and it plays different groups of
people and we went up Northland and it got absolutely smashed.
And of course you've got these parliamentarians, you know, we're
all at fifty and we sort of think like we
can sort of if something happens to Reuben Love or
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to cam Roy go we could just come on on
the field if you need us. And in this case,
Mitchell got smashed by someone.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
And broke two ribs.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
And then Grant McCallum, who's had knee issues for a while,
he got a knee injury, so he's off to see
his knee surgeon yesterday. So yes, but we raised fifty
thousand dollars but it came at a bit of a price,
so so some of our people are a bit ginger
at the moment, particularly Mitchell in particular, but the he's
a good sport and he's a good man, and as
ass Grant and the other guys that went up there
and played, like Simon Watts and.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Others as well. So it was it was, really it was.
It was obviously good.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
Fun, but it did come with some damage.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Did you roll out in a future parliamentarian in young
Lloyd but son of a legion from that part of
the world up there, Yes, yes.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
Yeah, she's going to hang out with him in the
next few days actually, And he's a guy I've known
for quite a while and I think he's gonna be
a great canned up in Fungerray And you know Grant
McCallum up in the North and Lloyd sitting taking over
from Shane reci and Fungerray and then you come down
to sort of Mitchell and Fonger para. You've got sort
of we've got a really good team in that part
of the world, which is really good.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Excellent Prime Minister, you have a great day. Thank you
for joining us.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Yeah, thank you mate.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
And also I mean to say thank you so much
for your debate participation at the Royal Support Trust debate
we had at a Field Days the other day.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
You were really good.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
You came in last minute and you slashed it.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
You did a great job.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
And you're on the winning team from memory.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Yeah, a winning team too, you know, like now everybody
were good sports sues Redmaine obviously outstanding from the Uncle
Tick Gay and Shane Jones and Jessica match mackay and
teaming up with mister McNaughty, which I probably to be
fair and normally wouldn't do. But you know, we went
quite well well.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
I think the good thing was everyone put the boaltics well,
they didn't actually wet it.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
They raised each other.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
Pretty meanly, but it was just a good cause and
it was really awesome to see the money being raised.
And to Rural Support Trust which are amazing work. So
now well done.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
You have a great week.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Mate, take care of Thank you very much.
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Speaker 3 (10:58):
We're going to had now too. Combination of the money,
a Dotto and Canterbury and a couple of Stews stew
Dunk and stew lavery well known to our listeners on
the show. We'll start with you, Stew down in the
deepest South. Have you been keeping an eye on these
bull sales too, which, of course off the back of
this great red meat news as well.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
All go yeah, I know.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
I was fortunate enough to head up to Canterbury and
go to a couple there and I purchased one up
and ward and we went then on to Gismond for
three days and traveled around and had a good look around.
It was fantastic really, and all the cattle we saw
in the ten days or away spas were amazing and
the height that was with them in the confidence within
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the all the industry really, all the young guys and
the shepherds to the managers, to the last companies, everyone,
but the bulls were fantastic, and the credit to all
those breeders up there and the fair chunk them came south.
So I'm going to say that in the next ten
to fifteen years there'll be some pretty impressive.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Cattleby, not that there aren't already, but there'll.
Speaker 6 (11:58):
Be some pretty impressive stud operations down here that got
some pretty good genetics.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
So that was a great week.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Yeah, correct, there's a two hundred and twenty thousand dollars.
Speaker 7 (12:06):
Ball I did actually to be fair. I sat there
and fired a couple of shots and it just hit
tongue and cheap, and I pulled out about sixty odd thousand,
So that was another Anyway, it was a great ball,
and there was definitely a lot of great cattle throughout
the week, really, and you only need a couple of
bitters and people pick one out of many balls.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
And there was eight million dollars worth of kettle I.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
Think sold up there in that Gismond in a couple
of days. But across the board there was fantastic balls,
So we're pretty fortunate to have that sort of confidence.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Yeah, Stuli the red meat in a straight. I mean
it's bury along you do you see longevity with it?
Speaker 8 (12:43):
Yes, yeah, no, I do. All of all the meat
companies are looking to contract stuff forward now good money
and so yeah, in the demand. You know that that
clean green image that we've been being in a way
and made made to fill out all these four and
four years and years ago is now coming to fruition
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and we're and we're getting well rewarded for you know,
for the students see the good breeding in and in
the history of the of what we're producing. So it's good.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Yeah. S Joe, you've been a good canterbory Land. I
know you like a good feed. But that's Mitchell and
star Stup, you know, like I don't know how many
there are in christ Church, but that's that's bounced off.
This hasn't it too, because it is that clean green,
superb bread meat producing kind of mentality that has spread
to the world. So it's fabulous, isn't it.
Speaker 8 (13:33):
Yes?
Speaker 9 (13:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (13:34):
And whether it's the salmon farmer and Akera or either
the lamb or whether it's Sealia Precut which a company,
I mean, they all tell a very you know, very
similar story and it's and it's when when the customers,
you know, partake in it, they know they're going to
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get quality. So so that's you know, the the you know,
the best thing about it. It reflects really well on
all of us.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we're having these Mitchell and Star
restaurants too. It'll help tourism, which is kind of like
it's effects a few runs down the ladder from the
importance of the primary of the of the red and
meat sector and Agrica. But it's still good. It's good
all round, right, Steve Duncan, farming conditions down and the money, Toto,
you're part of the world. How's it looking.
Speaker 10 (14:23):
We're right in the middle of winter and we've had
a week of absolutely really solid frost and I'm was
going to try to find out how much ice and
were they were curling on natural ice soon and but
it's been.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Really hard for ust.
Speaker 6 (14:34):
So I picked up a drench back before and the
drench was frozen it. So that's it's better.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
That's ideal, that's what we normally do.
Speaker 6 (14:40):
It kills all the bugs and all the soccer walking
above the ground. It's nice and hard and everyone's pretty
happy and we've got through. We missed that big snow event.
There's weave a of snow here last week. But if
we can get another couple of weeks without having a
major snow dumping trickling in and the scanners are coming
south from Canterbury, there's a few guys out in the
sheer now and start scanning to this idea where of that?
Speaker 4 (15:00):
So we're happy we're.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Head historically how good? How often do you get it
that good?
Speaker 6 (15:05):
Oh, we've had a pretty good season where around patches
have been dry. But you know, we've got to have
winter and winter because we don't want Last year we
lost a lot of lambs eleven inches of snow but
twenty fifth of October. So we want to have that
now when we can handle for any lambs and cavers about.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
But if we can't control the weather, but we're just
living with.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
What we've got, and what about the weather for us?
Speaker 8 (15:24):
Do you?
Speaker 6 (15:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (15:26):
Much the same? Into a runner frost. I think she
was up here watching the club rugby final a couple
of weeks ago, and that's that we had that. We'll
strolled all west and we're actually dry. We were getting dry,
which is an odd thing to say in the middle
of winter. But we've had had rained since not a
great deal in June. But the top the top sort
of six inches is muddy at the moment, but we're
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getting good frosts and the moisture disappears quick and Extue said,
we get the stocker on top of the ground, not
knee deep into it. So everyone's getting really good utilization
out of all the crop. Some feeding it like that.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
You know.
Speaker 8 (16:04):
What good prices, it's pretty good conditions to farmin Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Two convivial chaps like yourself, of no doubt, got good
mates spread around the country in the farming sector. When
you're having a conversation with them, are you feeling the
sort of the buoyancy coming through start with you, stud Duncan.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
Yeah, well that was one thing I noticed, been away
for two weeks really traveling around talking the farming people.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
The young shepherds is a young guy blue my socks.
Speaker 6 (16:30):
He was a sharer in the east coast of North
Island and him and his mate where he's a scanner,
cattle scanner, and they've done their businesses have done exceptionally
well and like they're sharing sheep bought farms, did they
set up their business and their confidence and so happy
and it was everywhere ed, including one old girl he
had to beer with up there, and he was getting
out to retire and lease the farm to his niece.
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And I just come home and tell a few stories
about being up north, and you know there's people now thinking, well,
we know what do we do next? And the young
fellows don't want to go farming. So I don't think
thirty years of farming there's been that much confidence across
the whole industry and the key of that is to
make sure we keep it. And you know, it's showing
up in the crop competitions, our nations, to the community
and the lions clubs, so it's really boyant and we've
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got to keep that to attract all those good young
people back into agriculture, keep them in agriculture and really
build our communities. And like I said, was up watching
the rugby teams in Canterbury and the crowds all around
the ground and rural communities are really bouncing along really well.
So I think I hope it stays at this for many,
many years and it will be a pretty cool place again.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Yeah, fantastic. You're hearing the same sort of things too.
Speaker 8 (17:34):
Yeah, definitely, Yeah, there's not too many farmers walking around
with the look on the ground at the moment you
do something wrong with your it's it's juicy. We've had
pretty we've had a good, good summer autumn and then
with good prices. It's yes, it's never been better. So
good times.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Yeah, fantastic is Uli the new stadium ripper for the
test day? That'll be good, yees, you know.
Speaker 8 (18:00):
It won't even if it's cold and frosty outside it.
I've been to a few cold games and Christ each
obviously at night. That the ideal time would be pay
played them in the afternoon, but no, no, we've played
them at night now, so you know it'll be it'll
be fine, and it's a great shit up. And you know,
in the same to a Christ hitch here after the
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earth quake, you didn't even go in and well we didn't.
We had no reason to go in there. And I
sort of got lost the first time we went back
to the to the new stadiums. All all the landmarks
have gone, all the buildings had gone. But with the
bars and mates, we've got bars in town. They're they're
loving it and they're doing really well.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Yeah, hiks, John I'm sure you'll adjust your adapt you'll Adept. J.
Daggers Stewli thank you very.
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Speaker 3 (18:52):
This is the country and of course, as we know,
it's such a huge topic succession. Of course there's been
this excellent free one day planning for succession workshops that
were launched by Rabobank, and that came about as just
sort of industry feedback from people from the public, from
those facing this very well. It's topical, it's tough and
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it certainly requires a lot of attention. Now what we've
had are these excellent succession planning workshops and they've been
run by Lawrence Field from Rural Field Consultants who joins us.
Lawrence has been a busy but very rewarding time these workshops.
Speaker 11 (19:35):
Yeah, thanks ho much, good afternoon. It has been really good.
We started running them in April last year in Fielding.
I think we did twenty two last year and we're
planning to do thirty around the country this year, so
there's plenty of demand.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Great initiative from Rabobank there the demand, as you say,
is there. What's the feedback been like from these workshops
and the importance of having the discussion early.
Speaker 11 (20:04):
Yeah, look, I've just circled some of the feedback. We
ran one yesterday and fielding we were at Stratford last week.
A couple of the comments never too early to start.
It takes longer than you think. The value of having
an independent facilitator, you know, to really have those good discussions,
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I think, Hamish, I don't know what your experiences of
family gatherings, but if you if you've had a few
sort of ports or bubblis.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
After Christmas dinner, that's probably not the.
Speaker 11 (20:39):
Best time to be bringing up these really important topics,
you know, And to have somebody independent in the room
to help help kind of drive that and just just
facilitate it, it can be really valuable.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Needs to be some very clear lines in the sand.
I agree one hundred percent. Tell us what takes place
in these actual workshops then, and we'll also have a
look at the stats because they are quite remarkable in
terms of age of farmers in the stage that we're at. Yeah,
what's what goes on the workshite?
Speaker 11 (21:10):
So they run from around nine o'clock, we say eight
forty five or nine o'clock, start nine till three. So
it works if people have got to pick up school
kids and things like that, and what we do in
the workshops, it almost mirrors the process that you might
work through as a family. So I very much start
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off with discovery. We've got to discover, and it starts
with the parents. You know, it's the parents who's the
I talk about the golden rule Hamish. She who's got
the goal, makes the rules, you know, So it's there.
It's their business, it's their wealth. It's up to them
what they're going to decide. So we start with them.
We think about the incoming generation. We actually do a
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little bit at the beginning around what are your family
value you know, what is the sort of culture in
your family, and what are the real non negotiables for
you as a family. Then we go into well what
are the numbers tell us, you know, the the have
we got a strong profitable business, have we got have
we got enough equity? We look at roles and responsibilities.
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Then we often get somebody, an independent person to come in.
So this might be a facilitator. We had Toddy from
Hooks Bay yesterday he described himself hamishous He's like Switzerland
in the room, which I thought was a good analogy,
and he said. One of the things Toddy said is
the I help you have the conversations that you think
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you've already had. And I thought that was great. You know,
do not assume, hey, do not assume what other people
are thinking. So and then and we think about the
support that's available out there, because not many families could
do this by themselves. And so by the end of
the day, people aren't going to walk out with a
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sort of a four page with it all filled out.
What they're going to work out walk out with is
essentially an action list. These are the things that we
need to follow up on. You know, who do we
need to talk to? Who could we get to help
us with this process?
Speaker 12 (23:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Okay, So how do people find out more and get
along for these more information? How do you register it?
And what if there isn't one in your area? Can
you sort of remotely or how can that work?
Speaker 6 (23:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (23:27):
No?
Speaker 6 (23:27):
All good?
Speaker 11 (23:27):
Hey, So first up, for anybody in Otago, We've definitely
got three workshops on next week.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
That have got room in them.
Speaker 11 (23:35):
So Tuesday were in Nasby Wednesday we're in Omaru and
Thursday we're in Timaru. So that's a great opportunity for
South Canterbury, Otago. And two weeks later July twentieth to
twenty fourth, we're down in Southland, Gore, mos Bourn and
in Vericago. So the best way to register is to
go to the rubb Evank website. There's a tab there
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which is called Knowledge and Networks and then scroll down
on that and you'll see planning for secession and there's there.
So that's the ability to register for the workshops that
are coming up. If there's not one in your area,
you can register your your interest, you know, and then
the local team know, oh gosh, we need to put
some more on in Taranaki or the White Catto or
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wherever it is.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Yeah, yeah, fantastic. Another great RABA bank in this should
have Hey, you look at these stats are just unbelievable,
aren't they. For age the number of farmers aged sixty
five and over increase sixty six percent in the last
eighteen years and continuing working past sixty five, still doing
the toil.
Speaker 11 (24:36):
That's right, And I'm not sure how much what your
impression is you know, when you're out about talking to people.
But I'm just wondering, if you know, with the we
ad the global financial crisis in R eight, we've had COVID,
we've had a real downturn. I suspect there's a bit
of a backlog, you know, and when returns are tough,
then then it's like, well, you're just surviving. You can't
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think about these things. Some of the interesting feedback that
we've had. There was a there was a chat came
to one of our workshops up north and you could
just tell from his body language he didn't really want
to be there, and he said to me he might
have to leave at lunchtime because he had so much on.
At the end of the workshop, he was there with
his daughter in law. At the end of the workshop,
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he said, I wish all six of my family had
been here. You know, this has been really valuable. We
had another family where we had three generations in the room.
These guys have been growing market garden crops for one
hundred and twenty years and I'm not sure how mush
whether to call him the dad.
Speaker 8 (25:39):
Or the boy.
Speaker 11 (25:40):
He was about our age, but he said, I'm now
working for my daughter in law and I'm okay with that.
Great and then I looked at I looked at what
his son and daughter in law, what they've done with
the business, and they've now got sunflowers and butterfly houses
and animal farm yards. That's that's what we want the
next generation to kind of have the opportunity to get
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into those different ideas.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Great stuff. Thank you very much. That as Lawrence Field
Rural Field Consultants, who has been facilitating this planning for succession.
The free one day sessions are brought to you by Rabobank.
Got those coming up very soon in Nasbury on the
seventh Homorary, the eighth Timuary, the night so plenty. They
go to the Rabobank website and check those out.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
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features insight from fourteen industry leaders and explores the opportunities
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dubdub dot rabobank dot co dot n Z right coming
up next on the Best of the Country. He's a cracker,
our Australian correspondent, a Chris Russell.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
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Speaker 3 (28:00):
Rubber back, this is the country, habers McKay in for
Jamie McKay. We crossed the Tasman now aired Ozsie Corris
freshly back from time in the Hawk's Bay. Chris Russell
joins us. Now, hey, Chris, you've arrived home, and of
course you know the news breaking over there that the
Avian flu skier it's right into South Australia.
Speaker 9 (28:23):
That's it. Well not right in there. I mean, we're
still talking about birds that are being found you on
the coast. The first one I told you last week
was found by a vet who just has to be
walking a dog along the beach at Esperan's and she
found this sick bird, not realizing at that point that
it did have avian flu. Otherwise she would have euphanized
it and washed her hands and not gone off the beach,
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but she brought it back to the surgery and then
they discovered that. So now they're being much more careful.
And the latest bird was actually in the surf struggling.
It was a skewer struggling to get into the beach
in South Australia, so the surfboard people bought it into
the beach and then it was handled on the beach. So,
you know, we argue that's three cases confirmed. Now I'm
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sure there's going to be more. The warnings really with
this H five N one variety is that in America area,
it has been able to accumulate in the utter of
dairy cows, so that's how it's been able to infect mammals.
They've also had problems with pigs. Now apparently this virus
doesn't like pigs as a host very much, but if
that's all there is around, it gets in there and
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it actually has been found to mute take quite quickly
within pigs into sort of more virulent form. So not
so much problem with cattle at this stage in America,
but we're living off that American experience and certainly everyone's
on high alert because last time we had the eight
seven variety in Victoria resulted in millions of birds having
to be slaughtered, and we're really short of eggs everywhere,
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particularly eggs right round Australia for a while.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Homish yep yep have to keep a very close eye
on that. Sheep meat prices soaring like John Eels used
to do in the line out.
Speaker 9 (30:04):
Yeah, unbelievable. How you know the sort of money that
we're now seeing for mutton, you know, it topped over
ten dollars a kilo. That's a lot of money for mutton.
And when you're looking at overall, we're looking at two
hundred and fifty five to three hundred and ninety six
Australian dollars ahead. So you know, when you convert that
(30:27):
to your little Kiwi pesos, you know, that's about four
hundred and fifty bucks ahead for or ten dollars Australian
akilo carcass weight for heavy use weather's pop the sale
at about three hundred and ninety two dollars each for
a weather So we're talking a lot of money here.
When you're talking twelve dollars a kilo for lamb live
(30:49):
weeight carcassweight. That's that's a lot of money and farm
But that's partly because a lot of farmers are holding
them back because I've had a bit of rain and
they're all expecting the prices to go even higher than homish.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Yeah. Yeah, incredible, incredible stuff, right US Supreme Court ruling
on glyphysate beneficial in Australia and beneficial everywhere.
Speaker 9 (31:10):
I guess, well, we talked about this whole issue quite
a few times with you and with Jamie over the years.
Of course, glyphy sate is in fact the most significant
chemical really in terms of our saw conservation and our
regenerative farming over here. I remember when I was a child,
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you know, we had craters everywhere with people plowing the
ground and getting erosion. We had an outfit called the
Saw Conservation Authority that used to run it. They didn't
even have that anymore now, So all of a sudden,
Glyphysate comes under threat because of a particular case in
America in Missouri where a guy sued successfully got two
(31:52):
and a half million dollars for having worked with Glyphysat
for years and claims to have got Hodgkins lymphoma. Now
they've now the Supreme Court what has looked at the evidence?
There is evidence based on fifty thousand farm users now
in America. It's a huge database, and they found no
significant difference between the incidents of lymphomer in people who
don't use glypea say, and people who do so. Finally,
(32:15):
that's now a ruling that will dominate in America and
stop some of these cases. And I hope it will
take the pressure off the manufacturers who are beginning to
think when they might have to pull out of that
whole market because there's such an important chemical homishe yep?
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Absolutely right. This winery selling beer and wine bottles as
a well, a boutique drink with unique barley flavors. Where's
that tell us about that?
Speaker 9 (32:43):
Yeah? Well, I love these sort of innovators, as you
always been involved in this innovation thing. And this is
a very well known wine maker here called Ben Radford,
and he's introduced us, he says, a very surprising lineup
of new sparklings that is for US Valley Winery. But
these sparklings are all full of beer. He's done a
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whole lot of tests of different types of balley and
different soils to grow it in. He's found the different
nuances in flavors that you can get from different territory
and different types of grain when you grow it over there.
And he's then based his beer projections much on you,
same as you see when you read the label on
a wine bottle, and he serves it in wine bottles
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the same as a wine and so he's really trying
to get this kind of much more astute assessment of
beers going like we've always had with wine. Of course,
all these people are desperate to try and supplement their
income because the wine prices are so ordinary at the moment.
Speaker 12 (33:42):
Yep, they are.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Right before you go. Were to catch up with you
a little earlier next week because you're off on a
bit of a trip to celebrate the Big five O
winning anniversary.
Speaker 9 (33:52):
Yeah, so we're very excited about it.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
We're on.
Speaker 9 (33:54):
We're going on the Indian Pacific from Sydney to Perth
next week. This takes four days three It's it's sort
of like an Iron Express type trip. We have been
on our bucket list for a long time. Bloody expensive.
It's you know, you can fly to England back for
what it costs you to go on it. But we're
doing that next week. So we'll be in mid New
South Wales or mid Nullible or somewhere at a normal
(34:16):
time next week. So I'm going to have a chat
to you on Tuesday just before we hit away, and
we're looking forward to it.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Sounds good. I can only think though when I think
of the Indian Pacific or the Iron Express, murder on
the Iron Express, you know, I you know, like things
go well for you, Chris. You know, a good three
or four days to celebrate the great stuff. Thank you
very much. There is out Australian Thank you. Australia correspond
a week. I see Chris Russell here on the country, the.
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Grow with Rubbobank, Well two hundred and twenty thousand dollars
two hundred and twenty thousand Mondoland and say for the
big boy, we're talking now with the farm manager of
Carro Angus, Nick Carr.
Speaker 7 (35:05):
Nick.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
How are you?
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (35:06):
Good?
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Ohemus very well, thank you?
Speaker 8 (35:08):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Yeah, that doesn't happen by chance? So does it turn in?
Twenty thousand? Bit of work goes into that, a bit
of thought.
Speaker 13 (35:14):
No, No, it certainly doesn't happen by chance. Samous is
a lot a lot. There's a huge effort from a
lot of people to get a result like this across
the line. Yeah, yeah, you've got a big you know,
there's a big push from staff and under bit as,
purchasers agents and of course you know the legendary Nevil Clark,
who's the auctionaire is So it all comes together and yeah,
(35:38):
and and hopefully it's a successful one, and.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
All of course underpinned by great genetics and a great
well thought out breeding program, because I guess that's where
it all begins and ends.
Speaker 13 (35:50):
Oh absolutely, I mean here at Kahara, the Angus heard
is a magnificent line of cows that's had and hundreds
of thousands of dollars spent on the best genetics around
New Zealand and the world. So it's a testament to
Colin and Penny and and and what they've what they've
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done with the stud and where they've taken it. So
it's no, it's great, it's yeah, it really is tremendous.
Herd of Cares.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Nineteen fifty seven, the stud started by Penny's father, Colin
Williams and two time flights. And I mean there's the
odd moment where I think fifty seven doesn't feel like
that long ago. But you know the year is stack on,
don't they. But Peter and Penny have done just carry
it on. The work there at at revenuever station where
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the study is.
Speaker 13 (36:46):
That's right, that's right. Yes, so Colin had done he's
to sell them, sell them and the paddock come up
at Carharel up on the east coast. There just rhetoria
and then and then I think this is this might
be the eighth or ninth on farm sell here at
Carrell and before that they were combined with the rang
(37:07):
of Terra where they sold under the same umbrella. But yeah,
so so it is it's a tremendous effort.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
All right, Okay, so what do you reckon that, you know,
two hundred and twenty thousand, and we're were up. I
can remember it wasn't that long ago. I'm trying to think.
Was it one of the one of the wire studs,
you know, breaking one hundred thousand?
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Then what are it?
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Sort of high ones? And here we go to two twenty?
Do you sort of see some you know, the future
is obviously pretty bright in that space.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
Yes, yeahs.
Speaker 13 (37:38):
I mean with lambs are worth something now and the
kettle the kettle jobs very positive and looking forward it
looks great. So people, you know, these farmers have prepared
to spend more money on genetics and just sort of
a big flow on effect really, so I mean, who
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knows what, who knows what the which will bring? And
you know how long it'll take to break the two
twenty that that might not be too far away.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
So the two twenty that's been invested, how's it sort
of broken down? Has gone to gone to a single
other stuff? Or how does that? How's that played output
from the purchasing end?
Speaker 13 (38:18):
So no, there was three three syndicates, So rolling rock
up in Hamilton and and the waked over there and
then Unsawing is down south and then there was a
an Auckland sorry, an Australian syndicate that purchased the seamen rights.
(38:39):
So it's yeah, a three way, three way sort of
a combination.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Yeah, yeah, so and everybody should be able to get it,
you know, as we say, it's a fair whack to
put into a ball. But then again I look at
it and see three parties and those rights going to Australia,
go you know what, Actually, no, it's probably bloody good
value for money, right yeah, he Nick, I've I've got
to wrap it up there, but I do have one
quick question for you. I've always wanted to and I've
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always said I should be doing.
Speaker 4 (39:06):
This is.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Photography of livestock, particularly a ball. So I'm going to
give you a ring at some stage and b cheeky
and find out about this fellaw weird to get a
photo and done anyway. Yeah, I want one of those
on my wall with a two hundred and twenty thousand
underneath a fantastic Hey, Nick, thank you very much. That
is Nick car Farm Manager cahro angus two hundred and
(39:28):
twenty thousand dollars. You're listening to the country, the best of.
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Great to have your company on this Saturday morning. Go
(40:03):
with the All Blacks and that flash stadium down there
in christ Church. First go for Dave, Renny and co.
All the best of the wallis last day of competition
with the f MG Young Farmer of the Year and
the Taranaki. Make sure everybody follows to Radars instructions. And
I just want to quickly mention Michelle Toni Roberts of
course winners of the Gordon Stephenson Trophy at the Balanced
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Sustainability Awards that were at the Sustainability Showcase in christ
Church during the week. This has been the best of
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