The Country Full Show: Tuesday, July 21, 2026

Jamie Mackay talks to Cameron Bagrie, Damien O'Connor, Todd Clark, Sandra Faulkner, and Kimberly Crewther.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Catch you're the latest from the Land. It's the Country
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and better heard health. Start here, Father.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Reavers up, good and good afternoon, New Zealand. I'm Jamie McKay.
This is the Country. I'm losing my voice already. Not

(00:35):
a good omen for the rest of the show. It's
brought to you by SUSU and Farmland's going to kick
off with the big story today, and that's the inflation number,
a wee bit higher than expected. To crunch those numbers,
Independent economist Cameron Bagri Damian O'Connor. I was going to
have Joe Luxton on the show, Labour's agricultural spokesperson, but

(00:55):
for old Joe's sick and in the absence of Joe
and some labor a policy, we'll get the gloves off
with Labour's trade spokesperson. Todd Clark's our US farming correspondent
based out of Lexington, Kentucky. He's topping paddocks pastures fields
on his track as we speak. He's going to have

(01:17):
a break to and talk to us. Sandra Faulkner, Federated
Farmers Vice Presidents at the beehive, and we're going to
tell you all about this year's World Dairy Summit, which
is happening in Auckland for the first time since twenty ten.
Cameron Bagri and those ugly can I use the word ugly?
Inflation numbers to kick off the country. Today's big news

(01:57):
story is the inflation rate. Let's run the ruler over
the numbers with independent economists. Cameron bagriy, it's gone up
from three point one percent in the twelve months to
March up to four point one percent in the twelve
months to June. Now the Reserve Bank was forecasting three
point nine percent. Cameron Bagri, were you surprised by these

(02:19):
numbers or pretty much in line with the expectations.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
I think brought in line with sort of expectations. Obviously
we're seeing fuel prices here had a little bit and
obviously you've dup down now they're back up. But if
you strip out food and energy and look at what's
called core inflation, look core inflation in your y there's
running around two and a half percent and that's the
key number for the Reserve Bank, and unfortunately they've got

(02:47):
a target of two percent two point five there's not
exactly what you call two. So they're going to be
a little bit weary in regard to what we call
the flow and effect of your fuels. High thood prices
with that starts to feed into what's called core inflation.
And you just don't want to see core inflation at
two point five You want that number closer to two percent. So, yes,

(03:10):
the headline number was a little bit stronger and expected,
but let's look beyond that, look at the core numbers,
and the core numbers they're just sitting a little bit
too elevated at the moment.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Yeah, obviously these numbers were driven up by petrol and
the quarter up twenty seven point five percent. Is it
inevitable that the next time the Reserve Bank has a
look at the oci, they lifted again. Or are they
worried that the economy is not in great shape to
take higher interest rates.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yes, you could slice and dice things a couple of ways.
Look at if you look at the inflation numbers themselves.
And I'm not talking about headline inflation because you've got
a lot a few fuel prices, because the Reserve Bank
can't control that. But the fact that core inflation is
still around two point five tells the Reserve Bank. But
look you've probably got the ash I have a little

(03:59):
too late. But alsot of the equation, Jamie, is that look,
the only is actually firmer. Okay, the dredational sort of
model is selling more expense the houses to each other.
That's not working to Auckland one and Bay plenty bos
of the places are down on the dumps. But you
get into the regions and my god, there's a bit
of economic strength that's coming through. So you have a
strengthening economy and you've got an official cash rate that's

(04:21):
still at two point five percent. Now you're probably a
little bit too late. So this is the unfortunates of
a parody in regard to economics. But sometimes good news
becomes bad news because the good news is the rural regions.
Again bloody well. So when the rural regions are starting
really well, it's going to flow out of the city sinkers.
And we know that it's starting to take place, so
the official cash rate doesn't need to be as low.

(04:43):
And we're not talking about but thereserving jumping on the
brakes here. They're taking the foot of the accelerator. If
they take the official cash rate and say two point
five percent to three percent in the next six months.
It's not not exactly a begging story. It's called the
normalization story.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
The exchange right at the moment against the US dollar
fifty eight sense, that's pretty export friendly for US, isn't it. Cameron,
What sort of effect would these inflation numbers have on
that number?

Speaker 3 (05:11):
Oh, that these numbers at the march and we're probably
a little bit stronger than expected. So the cancy is
locked a little bit up. But the cancers are two
sides of coins. And what we're seeing was it in
the United States you have a big move with the currency.
In the past of a week, it's been that US
inflation numbers actually came through a little bit lower than expected,
So a little bit less expectation in the US Federal

(05:33):
Reserve is going to be heightened interest rates, which has
been US dollar negative. If that's negative, then the New
Zealand US dollar tends to go a little bit up. Now,
my personal view is that there's still an inflation uncurrent
in the United States, and so I still think the
United States, the US dollar is going to be sort
of capped, and that sub sixty cent sort of arrange,
which is what we call the export friend design, and

(05:56):
I think we can look forward to that for another
sort of yet twelve months which a little bit of
sort of cream on the top. In regard to the
commodity prices still look pretty robust, Like our dairy prices
are down, but beef prices are still looking pretty good.
There's still a fair bit of money the tim there
for the rule sector. When you look at things once again,
it's a rural export letter revival. What we're seeing at

(06:18):
Crossing is on and that lower New Zeale do one.
It's not just the key of US dollar. It's a
curiosity boy. But the curiosity doll is around eighty three cents.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yes, I've just been over in Australia. It's a shocking
to go over there at the moment. Look, I've been
reading some commentary from you about the geopolitical state not
only of the world, and we know what I mess
that is at the moment. But here in New Zealand,
you're suggesting we're going back to the Muldoon days.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
I'm not suggestingly found back to the mild Doom's day days,
but I think what's going on at the moment, there's
a fair bit of tension geo politically, just strategically bit
of pain and regard to inflation. What you got out
there at the moment is that people are disillusioned. The
voter base is just looking for something a little bit

(07:06):
different because they're suffering from a little bit of pain.
And I go back to Rob's Mob in the nineteen
seventies and nineteen eighties and that sort of group of
disillusions on voters that were seeing their wages go up,
but it was getting eroded by inflation eating into it.
And guess what, a whole lot of roiling supporters sort
of switched to what was called Roll's mob. I think

(07:27):
we're starting to see a little bit of a modern
day version of Rob's mob. I mean, we can call
them sort of Peter's pack, we can go on the
top slot, we can thought at Henry's sort of warde.
You've got the younger generation, this is the older generation.
You've got these people middle age that are sitting there
and thinking they're real wages in the climb because inflation
is anything sort of up. So we can just start

(07:47):
to see that there's a lot of tension out there
and belabor in the National Party. Collectively, they're about sixty
one percent of the vote at the moment that there
needs to be seen there to eighty percent now, So
if they're sixty one, well the other lot of thirty nine.
So you get a situation where you've got the tail
wag in the dock.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
So what's the space.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Well, my prediction for this election, and has been for
quite a while now, is that I think New Zealand first,
love them all over them rightly or wrongly, will poll
very well.

Speaker 5 (08:17):
What do you think.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
Well, they're on the up and they're praying into a
modern day version of Rob's Mob. But there's another political
group that you need to give an eye on here
and I think it's top the Opportunity Party tops Lot.
And yeah, this is the younger generation versus the old generation.
You've got the older generation that's done pretty well at property.

(08:39):
We've got the young generation that you can't afford a property.
There's huge amounts of tensions that there's huge portions of
what we call the modern day version of Rob's Mob,
which these smaller political parties are trying to pray empto.
So what's the space, Because once again we could end
up with a situation here where when we've seen it
before with a tail wags the dog.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Interesting times. Cameron bagri thanks for some of your time
today on the country. Just repeating that key inflation number
four point one percent for their twelve months to June
of this year. Cameron, thanks is always for your time.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
All the best Jammy.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Thanks Cam, and we'll a wait till that next o
CR announcement. Hasn't been that long since we last had one.
I'm just looking on my screen now, yes, and I
can confirm the next o CR announcement will be September second.
I hadn't really thought of that generational type in fighting.
Cameron Bagriy raises a very good point. The boomers maybe

(09:42):
they're falling in behind Winston and the gen zas the
post millennials, the gen Y's there may be buying into
this top policy of land tax taxing the rich to
give the poor a break.

Speaker 5 (10:00):
Do they just want to tax everybody?

Speaker 2 (10:02):
We might ask Labour's trade spokesperson, Cameron, not Cameron Baggery.
Let's try Damien O'Connor. He's up next filling in for
Joe Luxton, who is sick. I'm sick of labor having
no agg policy. We'll ask for some, we won't get any.
And I'll also take get Damien's view on what fed
Farmers are claiming as a bit of a victory over

(10:24):
those RMA reforms. Todd Clark's our guy in the US,
Sandra Faulkner, vice president of Federated Farmers, is at the beehive.
We're going to tell you all about the World Dairy Summit,
up to two thousand delegates gathering in Auckland in November.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
She's Squeezy Lake for.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Welcome back to the country. Let's welcome on to the show,
daddy cool. Can I call them that labour's trades folks person,
Damien o'kinnor, you are kind.

Speaker 4 (11:11):
Of I just seen you.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Ever saw were you kind of supping from the fountain
of youth there, Damien running gallivanting around the country on
your motorbike?

Speaker 5 (11:21):
In fact you Let's.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Just give a shameless plug out for the good folk
at Omoru Honda.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
Yeah, they were great. I called him there yesterday, door
knocking around Omoru and it was great. Called him there.
Always motorbike shops always attractive. We've just seeing what's going on.
They've had a good year. Obviously the money coming into
farming sectors helped them, and so good on them. And
I like to I've got red bikes. I've always got
to support someone with red.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Well, my favorite Honda shop is you and Alan Honda,
but I'm a bit biased on that one. Radio Now,
Joe Luxton was going to be on the show today.
You're EGS spokesperson. She well, she's sick. I think she
pulled her sicky because she's just afraid to come on
the show because every time poor old Joe comes on,
I badger her about some ag policy.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
You're such a nasty person at times, Jamie. I really
am disappointed. She's probably exhausted from driving around around the
East Coast elected up there. I know she's doing a
great job campaigning and it probably is exhausted and needs
to take a day off. So you should offer some sympathy,
not kind of get into her. And we're just following
what was the last kind of National Party approach to

(12:29):
meet up to the election, which was have no policy.
We're not doing that. We have some, but we're going
to bring it out as we finalize it and as
a process underway. So hold your breath.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Well, we're what July now November election, It is it
about time. If you're serious about getting any rural votes.
And I don't know whether you are, Damien, I think
you might have given up the ghost on that one.
But if you're serious about getting some rural votes, get
your policy out there. Tell the people what you stand for.

Speaker 4 (12:56):
I know that some of the good ideas that we have,
we've been discussing it people around the sectors and some
of them have leaked out and other parties will all
gobblows up. I know National tried to rush out with
their solar panel policy, which they put together in a hurry.
We've rolled out a better one, one that we've taken
up by more people, more affordable, and will make a
real difference to electricity prices. So you know, there is

(13:18):
a risk that we put out our good ideas and
of course others try and coffee. That's I guess good.
But we think it's actually better that we win and
get in and change.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Well, here's an idea for you, Damien. What about a
bit of bipartisan politics. If you and National agree on
your solar panel policy, just get it through, support each
other to get it through. Hello, Damien, Damien Earth the Damien,
where's he gone? Let me just get a little bit

(13:49):
of Daddy call for you and then Jamie, oh, you've
got you now, I was gonna have to play some
So what happened there, Well, I don't know what happened.

Speaker 5 (13:57):
I think that we while no no, I just no no.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
I just think you were ducking for cover because you
didn't have an answer.

Speaker 4 (14:04):
I'm not sure what happened with the phone. May that
actually National are the ones that pull out of any
bipartisan deals and quite frankly, we can go back to
a superannuation accord that we had in the nineties day
were long gone. When the pressure comes on, they take off.
And so it's a great theory and I know New
Zealanders talk about it, but when you have parties that

(14:26):
don't hold to their agreements, it's really hard to kind
of pretend that they will do in the future.

Speaker 5 (14:32):
Hey, I know you.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
Didn't hear Cameron Baggery who was on kicking off the show.
He gave a really interesting or gave some really interesting
commentary on the political scene in New Zealand as it
stands at the moment. He said, you know, Labor and
National together barely makes sixty percent. And we're getting these
not extreme parties, but parties either side of the centrist parties.

(14:53):
And he used the example of Top attracting young people,
Winston obviously attracting the boomers. So this election is really
going to be decided not by the two main parties, Damien,
but by the periphery parties.

Speaker 4 (15:07):
I guess if you go back to first place, the
post people thought it was the tyranny of the majority,
that is that the winner takes all.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
You know.

Speaker 4 (15:14):
Now we've got to a point where it's the tyranny
of the minority. And so we've got some of these
smaller parties. Unless you negotiate a really solid coalition agreement,
the small parties just run rings around the major parties.
And we haven't thankfully been in that situation. We've been
in coalitions. But it is really important that people vote
for the major parties if they want the major parties

(15:37):
to take control. If you want a small percentage of
a population having a disproportionate say, then vote for the
minor parties. And we take the risk with the future
of museum and doing so.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Hey, Federated Farmers is claiming victory over its decision to
stop some of these RMA reforms getting rushed through with
ee what do you make of that? And we don't
need to talk about it for too long because I
am going to chat to Sandra Faulkner from Federated Farmers
about it. Is it a victory for Federated Farmers? More importantly,
is it a victory for common sense?

Speaker 4 (16:08):
Daymien O'Connor well, I think Fed farmers have to be
careful what they ask for because sometimes and there are
many examples where it's been short termism and it's been stupid.
And we have to have a robust and healthy progressive
partnership with EWE across this country. And in terms of
resource areas around land management, around protection and biodiversity and

(16:30):
stuff like that, and water quality, we should be working
with EWI and most of them are really solid. They
have a long term vision, They share our aspirations for
a better New zealand trying to shut them out is
really dumb because at some point, you know they will
take up with us the illegal reponsibility and their legal
obligation and that is to implement know what was laid

(16:53):
down in the treaty, implement the partnership that we have
as a country. It's something we should celebrate, not try
and jump away from or jump back from at every opportunity.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
Hey, you just want to quickly touch on the Indian
sta and Wall. Are you having a crack at Mark Patterson,
new Zealand's first Minister of not Minister of Wall. There
Will spokesperst and I reckon he's doing a good job Mark,
but he was over in India And is that a
bit two faced, a bit duplicitous from New Zealand?

Speaker 4 (17:19):
First? On New Zealand first, you know one of the
big exports to India is coal and Jones's championing their
mining industry and the other has been Wall, the potential
for Wall, and Mark's been over there trying to do
a good job. So I'm acknowledging you know, what he's
been doing is good and progressive. But why take a
stupid position of objecting to an end to the FDA.

(17:40):
It's not perfect, it's not what we would negotiate it.

Speaker 6 (17:43):
It's a pretty.

Speaker 4 (17:44):
Solid step forward and we've acknowledged that his labor. But
New Zealand first don't know what they want for our
relationship internationally, And I have to say that, you know,
one point four billion people is a lot. There is
a huge amount of opportunity. We have to be careful
in how we manage that, protect our IP, make sure
we've gone good good partnerships and somehow encourage a few

(18:07):
people to invest in India otherwise it might be unraveled.
But on balance New Zealand first can't have their taking
edit too. They either want relationships with India or did
I Now I'm.

Speaker 5 (18:18):
With you on that.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Do you realize you accidentally came up with some ag
policy there supporting the Indian FDA. Could we loosely call
that ag policy?

Speaker 4 (18:26):
Well, if you could go back to the UK, to
the EU, if free trade agreements CPTPP Labor has done
a huge amount to negotiate access for our exporters and
we will continue to do so. The list that National
put out there was just a continuation. It was hardly
rocket science, and of course we will continue to do
our bit for exporters.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Just imagine what a sensible government you could be without
the Greens and TA Party.

Speaker 4 (18:51):
Murray, Well, you know there's some issues that we have
to be reminded of. We have had healthy coalitions with
them in the past and we will do in the future.
You watched the space.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Damien O'Connor aka Daddy call here on the country. Thanks
for your time, Hoops. I don't know where Damien's gone anyhow,
having some trouble with his phone. Send us share text
feedback on five double nine. That argument didn't develop as
well as I hoped it might. But to conciliatory losing

(19:24):
my bike or is Damien losing his bite?

Speaker 5 (19:26):
Pay up next.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
Todd Clark. He's a US farming correspondent. He's sitting on
a tractor just outside of Lexington, Kentucky.

Speaker 5 (19:34):
We go there next.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
He is sitting in his tractor after taking a break
from topping pastures paddocks fields, whatever they call them in America.

Speaker 5 (19:59):
His name is Todd.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yes, are US farming correspondent based out of Lexington, Kentucky,
bluegrass country. And that grass is growing so much after
recent rains. Todd, you've had to chop it down A
good afternoon, New Zealand time.

Speaker 6 (20:13):
Good afternoon, Jamie. That's that's exactly right. It's raining. It's
raining just enough that we're growing grass like it's springtime.
And then combine that with the high beef prices and
I'm probably understocked on top of that, and so I
could use use some more animals, but don't want to

(20:34):
borrow any more money to go buy them. But the
worst thing this time of year in Kentucky, the majority
of the US has been experienced as temperatures and so
the last few days it's been about forty degrees celsius
during the day, and so cattle cattle this time of night.

(20:55):
It's six point thirty in the evening in Kentucky right now,
they're now coming out of the shade, out of the
trees to come out and graze. It's just been that
hot with high humidity to go with it.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
We've been watching your climate with interest over the past
five weeks. Of course, you've had the football World Cup
on the final, Yes that I had met Life Stadium
there in New Jersey, magnificent stadium. It was a true
American event. Wasn't a great game of football, but your
president managed to wedge himself into the action at the
end there he wouldn't get off the stage. I know

(21:31):
you're a Republican Vota Todd, and I don't want to
offend you, but are you embarrassed by your president?

Speaker 6 (21:37):
Yes? I missed that. I did watch the game, but
I turned it off at the end of the game.
I was pulling for Argentina. It's the truth to be known,
but so I didn't. Luckily I didn't get to witness
what he did. But that's pretty consistent for him. That's
not unusual. And at this point we've got a little

(21:58):
more than two more years of him, and at the
most we hope and hopefully we can move on to
something better. But it's I was in DC last week
lobbying for something for the Farm Credit Association that I'm
a member of, and in lots of discussion with senators

(22:19):
and congress people in Washington last week about just how
to manage this president. And so they're all at withsin
trying to figure out how to proceed forwards, and scared
to death to do the wrong thing because he'll call
them out if they do.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
We know that the Middle East war is not popular
in America. I think two thirds of Americans or more
are against it. How was the latest escalation, for instance,
affecting your fuel prices? Because they've gone back up here
in New Zealand.

Speaker 6 (22:55):
They have gone back up. I just noticed today they're
thirty forty cents a gallon US gallon more than they
were previously, but because of the production in the US,
and then you combind that with each state has its
own tax that it applies to fuel. Our state, Kentucky

(23:17):
has eliminated that tax during this time frame, part of
its political reasons. Our governors Toying was running for president
in two years and so certainly trying to get points
with the voters. But a combination of no state tax
and US production has caused our fuel prices are higher

(23:41):
than they were prior to the war, but not as
bad as the rest of the world now.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
I Note and Rabobank have come out recently with a
global Dairy report and they're talking, amongst other things, about
how much production dairy production is ramping up in the
US at the moment. But it's not necessarily all about
milk kid telling me no.

Speaker 6 (24:02):
Based on talking to some friends that are in that industry,
especially some up in the Minnesota North Dakota area. In
that area, there's units that are ten thousand cows and
that will be a single unit, but the group may

(24:23):
own six or seven units. And currently their focus is
on trying to at least break even with the milk
and then make their money on the calf. And so
with's the beef prices like they are, that's pretty good income,
especially in a confinement situation like they have up there.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
You were talking about high beef prices, how expensive it
was to get replacements or buy replacements, and other than
chopping the grass down, sitting in your tractor on a
and trying to cool off on a hot Kentucky evening,
what are you going to get to eat the grass?

Speaker 5 (25:00):
Us?

Speaker 6 (25:01):
Oh, I'm already thinking about thinking ahead for winter and
stockpolling grass and that sort of thing. But we've also
put up enough feed for the winner. As it is,
we are retaining heifer's and trying to grow our our
beef herd. But as you all would know that that
takes a while to get that to happen. So, but

(25:24):
we could use probably twice as many cows as we have.
We sell to Whole Foods, a local US local grocery
and a group of seven of us supply forty stores
in the Northeast, and we're about a thousand animals short
currently and so we just can't keep up with demand.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Interesting times. Todd Clark UIs farm and correspondent. Thanks for
taking time out of your busy deity Antis on the Country.
We'll let you carry on topping and you can listen
to the Country online on iHeartRadio.

Speaker 5 (25:56):
I really appreciate your time. Well, dude, thanks to God
on your Todd.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
Twenty four Away from one. Some of your feedback coming
in interview with O'Connor covered exactly why MMP is failing.
Even when the major parties receive a majority vote, crappy
five percent parties can still control governance outcome. YEP, probably
a fair comment. M I don't know why you bother
with Damian O'Connor. He's just another negative, whining wimp like

(26:26):
as leader. No policy, has no idea, no hope. Here's
someone who's on damienside, Charlie resident lefty texter here on
the country. Yes, Jamie Well said Damien all words of wisdom.
Compare Damien to smash a smith. That's Jane her views.
With her views, she would resurrect the old New Zealand.

(26:48):
I can't really say the party you're suggesting there, Charlie,
O'll get in trouble. And someone else said, I don't
know whether you it missed or deliberately didn't engage with
Damian O'Connor's assertion that the treaty was always a partnership
agreement from where as well. To be honest with you,

(27:09):
I reckon when it comes to these things. I know economic.
Aren't we all in the canoe together?

Speaker 5 (27:15):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
Oh, I just get sick of It would be so
much simpler if we all had exactly the same.

Speaker 5 (27:24):
Saying things.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Or am I being way too simplistic? You tell me
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for you. Sandra Faukner is at the beehive from Federated
Farmers and we're going to tell you all about the
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Again Rural News. The twenty twenty six Arable Award finalists
have been named and the annual awards are a celebration
of the beast and brost in the industry. Of course.
These awards take place in christ Church on the twentieth
of August at the Air Force Museum. The finalist for
the Innovation Award there are three Marty and Georgina Scurr
in Canterbury agrogonomist Paul Oliver and Lincoln University researcher Marianna

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and and Roucci. And the Environment Award finalists of the
love Ittt family from Ashbourn and Tim Gorton from Fielding.
And in the Maze Grow of the Year finalists Mark
Shearer from Ashburn Donald Stovey from the Wykatto Federate. Here's
the Federated Farmer's Arable Chair in the Wye Catto and
hawks Bay couple Patrick and Belinda Nichol So exciting times
that's coming up in August. Apparently it's been record May's

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growth as well for the cso it could be exciting
those awards.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Well, I hope, so, I just hope the poor old
arable farmers get paid a bit better for their for
their fine fare well. Talking about dairy farmers yesterday, forty
three percent increase in fertilizer prices for the coming season. Wow,
you know, the old arable farmers, they get it twice
in the neck. Fertilizer and fuel all the best s
right has sport.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
Sports on the country with AFCO one hundred percent ki
we owned and trusted it.

Speaker 4 (29:47):
That's rare.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
More than a million people have lined the streets of
Madrid to welcome home Spain's World Cup football owners from
the United States. And wasn't that a shocker? Trump on
the stage yesterday.

Speaker 7 (30:00):
Here's the old man.

Speaker 5 (30:01):
Well, he's got no self awareness.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
The good news is they've got Trump, we've got Ryan Fox,
and don't we love Ryan Fox? So he's reflected on
one of his fondest memories from the all night celebrations
of his Open Championship triumph. New Zealand's fourth winner of
a major, is back with his family and that in
their Florida Bash. You might have heard him talking to

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Mike Hosking this morning on z B Breakfast after his
crazy victory at Royal Birkdale. Fox says his caddy reflected
he might only get one opportunity for a winning put
to clinch a major, and he made it from about
eleven and a half feet. If I had that part
from two and a half feet under that pressure, I

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would miss it. That's the difference between Foxy and Meat.

Speaker 4 (30:51):
Now.

Speaker 7 (30:51):
You know, I don't really like golf, but to me,
this is the equivalent of someone from New Zealand winning
Tour de France like that is a big deal.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Yep, or an Olympic fifteen hundred meter lately final, absolutely
top of the pinnacle event. Right up next, we're off
to the Beehive. Sandra Faulkner, thirteen and away from one

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year with the country. I'm Jamie McKay. Sandra Faulkner. She
has been labeled Federated Farmers queen Bee at the Beehive today.
And I didn't come up with that good one liner, Sandra.
In fact, it was your PR guru Aaron Lecter or
is it Leedcher? I call him raspute and that's why

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we're playing a bit of bony m so it's not
a bad one liner from Aaron, How is the Queen bee?

Speaker 5 (31:54):
What are you doing at the beehive?

Speaker 3 (31:56):
Well?

Speaker 8 (31:56):
Today is Mitchell an opportunity to catch up with well
pretty much everybody who moans and shapes up here. I
guess it's it's a real privilege to be able to
sit down with ministers and their teams and to see
where we can go to help our rural communities and

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make sure that their.

Speaker 6 (32:17):
Voice is right.

Speaker 5 (32:19):
Feeds get a big one. Yesterday.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
We've touched on this with Damian O'Connor regarding stopping some
of this rush rush legislation with the changes to the
r M. A.

Speaker 8 (32:31):
Yeah, well you're talking about the man of agreements. We
did ask for there to be consideration made to just
it seems like a bit of an unseemly rush to
try and get agreements at least in front of councils
to sign, peering in mind that in the current system
they would be binding on any authority that was governing

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local body.

Speaker 4 (32:56):
So that said.

Speaker 6 (32:58):
One thing I.

Speaker 8 (32:59):
Probably did want to say was what it doesn't do
is change some of the more collegial and established arrangements
that already exist in places like my home, perch Up
and Partahaiti where you know, we as farmers farm together
ee and others.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
That's the way it should be put on your adverse
events hat, because you've got we have got some issues
around the country, and I particularly look at what's happening
and or has happened in the likes of Kai Kura,
I know, some parts of the Wira Rapper. We tend
to get excited and give them lots of press coverage
and then the weather clears up and we move on
to the next issue. We can't forget these people.

Speaker 8 (33:42):
No, that's right, and it's the nature of the news cycle,
as you say, Jamie, but it's really important to us,
particularly here.

Speaker 6 (33:48):
It feeds that.

Speaker 8 (33:50):
Our team are still there supporting those that have been
hit with the weather. And these things tend to roll on,
you know, we see something, you know, in this case
Northern Canbury, Cacura, and then the next weekend is something else,
and the next weekend is something else type thing. So
I think for us, what's becoming really clear is that

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our farming communities and enders in particular, can be confident
that we're not going anywhere until we can get some
assistance on the ground that we see them and we
hear them.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Now that you've ascended to the lofty title of National
Vice President of Federated Farmers, do they have a week
piece of red carpet they roll out at Gisban Airport
when you when you get home, Sandra, get it right.

Speaker 6 (34:38):
Absolutely not.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
No.

Speaker 8 (34:41):
If I'm really lucky the boss that the farm picks
me up and I goes straight back to being the
junior shepherd again basically, so so no red carpet. No,
absolutely not.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Okay, Well, thank you for some of your time. Good
luck going into bat for the farmers of this country
in parliament, and we will catch up at a later
date and talk about some of those local body reforms.
Shane wants rid of the half the local councils, but
that's another issue for another day.

Speaker 5 (35:08):
We've run out of time. Sandra, thanks for yours.

Speaker 8 (35:12):
Yeah, thanks about Shami and your time for our royal
communities too. You are your voice too.

Speaker 5 (35:16):
Oh, thank you. I think that's a compliment.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Ah, It's better than Jeremy Rooks who said I've got
as much bite as a gummy old you. I could
respond in a Shane Jones like manner. I could make
knee pads comments, but I'm above that sort of talk.
Up next, the World Dairy Summit shame as an event

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I'm looking forward to attending because we are the official
media partners here on the country. It is wait for it,
drum roll, the IDF World Dairy Summit, all the first
time in New Zealand since twenty ten when it was
last held in Auckland. It's going to be held again
in Auckland November the fifteenth to the eighteenth. To talis More,

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Executive director of the Dairy Companies Association, Kimberly Cruther, Hey, Kimberly,
this is a really big deal.

Speaker 9 (36:17):
It is a big deal for New Zealand to host,
and to host after quite a few years. It's going
to be a great opportunity for the New Zealand industry
participants to get together with our global counterparts, and by
global I mean people from farms, processing, marketing and academia

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related to the dairy industry from the US, Europe, Africa
and across Asia. So really big event, really great opportunity.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
This is truly a global event. Last year it was
held in Chile. Next year it's going to be held
in Mumbai. That would be an interesting venue. So who
goes along? Is this just for the corporates and the
big big farmers or can Joe, average dairy farmer from
Taranaki head along?

Speaker 9 (37:12):
Definitely any farmer who wants to head along can come along.
There are a range of different topics that will be
covered across the conference sessions and so they should be
of something of interest to everyone. I really enjoy talking
to a range of different farmers from different countries when

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I attend the summit's internationally, and so it is the
opportunity for farmers in New Zealand to come along and
talk to not only their farming counterparts globally, but their
counterparts and colleagues from across the dairy value chain.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
So are this international or will be held should I
say at the International Convention Center in Auckland, brand spanking
new or almost doesn't? How many can you fit in there?
Because I think last time it was held in Auckland
in twenty ten you had eighteen hundred delegates.

Speaker 5 (38:07):
This is a big conference.

Speaker 9 (38:10):
It is a big conference and we are planning for
potentially having the same number of delegate delegates. It's a
fantastic space there in the conference center, and that will
allow us to have multiple different parallel conference sessions running
at at once across the three main days of the summit,

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plus having a very big exhibition space. I think we
are planning to have some large scale innovation displays there.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
So we're going to tell you plenty more about the
World Dairy Summit in Auckland in November between now and then.
But Kimberly, one of the reasons we're having a quick
chat today is because the early bird registrations close at
the end of now. This is a conference that runs
from Sunday through to the Wednesday, followed by two days

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of optional technical tours if you want to do those
as well. Early bird registration for under two thousand dollars.
The website is and we'll put this up on our
social channels IDFWDS twenty twenty six dot com. It is
how you can get to the World Dairy Summit. Just
before I let you go, you've got a famous brother,

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haven't you, with the Dairy Agricultural Connection. Andrew Hoggard, Minister
of Biosecurity, former President of Federated Farmers. You're a high
flying family, Kimberly.

Speaker 9 (39:39):
Well, I think we're a family that has milknal veins
like many others in New Zealand and we're proud of that.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Well, good on you, hey Lovely to catch up. Looking
forward to seeing you in Auckland. It is the World
Dairy Summit fifteenth to eighteenth of November. Thanks Kimberly, Thank
you all right. A final text in there, Thanks Kimberly.
You need to see a doctor about your teds Trump
something or rather sundrme derangement syndrome. It's getting worse too, right.

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