August 4, 2026 • 40 mins
Jamie Mackay talks to Christopher Luxon, Matt Bolger, Craig Hickman, Duncan Humm, Craig Wiggins, and Riley Kennedy.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's the Country
Podcast with Jamie McKay thanks to farmlands helping to keep
animals fed and thriving. Oh you get me ready and
you're fifty six, shery, Why don't we pus sit down
(00:23):
in the shed.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Took shelter on my front porch.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
The Dandy Lyons sound scorch like gold.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Laundy.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
You play.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Good afternoon, New Zealand. Welcome to the Country. I'm Jamie McKay.
This is Paula Cole and where have all the cowboys gone?
We're kicking it off with the Prime Minister. No segue
there at all. Earlier this morning I caught up with
him because you've got to get the PM when he's available.
And we were pondering at the unemployment rate. Well, obviously
we didn't know when we chatted, as you'll find out,
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but it's coming at five point six percent. We were
speculating on five and a half or five point four,
so it's the highest unemployment rate since September twenty fifteen.
Very difficult out there, especially for young people to get
a job, to get a first job. Okay, the Prime
Minister to kick off the show, could peace in the
(01:23):
Middle East, be our savior or be his savior heading
into the election. Matt Bolger will join us from Fonterra.
He's the managing director of co Op Affairs. We'll have
a look at last night Steady as she goes GDT auction.
I reckon all you dairy farmers out there, flat out,
boots on, up to your elbows in it would take this.
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The result was up zero point one percent. A skim
milk powder up one point two. Whole milk part is
zero point two. So after a couple of falls or
three falls to kick off the new season, we've had
two positive auctions. Today's Farmer panel a pair of darlings,
social media darlings, Craig Hickman and Duncan Hum. Dairy man
(02:10):
very high profile on social media. Craig Hickman and of
course Duncan Hum is one of the guys behind the
NZ Farming Facebook page which is very popular. Craig Wiggy
Wiggins is making his way or I think he's in
Nelson for the Fence and Contractors Association conference. We'll find
out what he's up to. A few health checks, a
bit of a mental health check for the top paddock
(02:33):
and I'm looking for someone else to round out the
show because I was going to be chatting to Vanessa
Wanning from MPI, but she's dumped me. Never mind, we'll
catch up with her in the next day or two.
Up next the Prime Minister to kick off the Country.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
He read.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Wednesdays on the Country. The Prime Minister kicks off the show,
Christopher Luxen. Do you want to start with the good
news or the bad news? The good news is the meat.
The bad news is the Maori massage is nine million
dollars in our prisons? What the what the hell's going on?
Speaker 5 (03:29):
Well, the the large government agencies across the piece, and
good on Mark Mitchell for anything, and I in doing
something about it, But that just sounds like absolute lunacy.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
So good that it's been stopped.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Whose head rolls because of this? It's all very well
saying Mark Mitchell stopped that didn't know about it, But
there has to be a consequence. Surely, what happens if
you're someone who's been assaulted by one of these thugs
or had your property stolen. They're getting nine million dollars
worth of massages, you're out of pocket and beaten up.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
Yeah, well, look I mean, as you know, we've got
forty six fewer victims of violent crime, and I think
youth offendings down twenty two percent under our government. And
yes we've put two thousand more people into prison. What
we want them in prison for is to get rehabilitation services,
not to have a massage. So that's really where the
focus needs to go, and that's where the nine million
dollars needs to be spent actually making sure we're rehabilitating
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those people with the programs that are actually working and
stuff in the dumb ones that aren't working.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
It's woke nonsense, Rightio, are the good news. Let's get
on to the meat. Gee, you'd be buggered without the
farmer's Prime Minister.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
Well, I think you've got a government that's done a
great job, Jamie. I just take all the farmers to
close their eyes. Go back two and a half years.
You were going to be thrown into an easier scheme.
You're going to be hit with agricultural pricing, all sorts
of things. And look what we're doing when we've got
the markets pumping and opening up. I mean I was
looking at those numbers that came through basically red meat
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as up, I think what was it up twenty one percent,
and when you look at markets, like even the US
was up twenty one despite the tariff. China was up
seven percent. European Union, which is the EU, we got FAA,
we've got into force, drove another two billion dollars of
red meat into New Zealand over the last year and
it's up twenty five percent. And actually the UK drove
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another billion dollars into New Zealand and that was up
fifty one percent. Even Canada was up too, So you
know there's some really good growth. And what's happening essentially,
is the world a short of you know, red meat.
The herds have been run down around the world. Our
products of super high quality, as you saw in the US.
We've got two challenges there. One one good news story,
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which is beef has got no tariff assassinated with it
because of the quality of the beef and what it
does to the mix of beef in America. And then
we've got this challenge about sheep meat.
Speaker 6 (05:43):
Which we'll oppose rigorously.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
So yeah, red meat's going well, dairies going well, horticultures
going is going really really well. Woll as you've seen
as have seen has been doing some cool as growing.
But we also have got a chance now to innovate
on will and to add more value to it like
we have been doing with red meat, dairy and in
this last week I was in I was at a
red stag and seeing what they are doing with laminated wood,
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and you know, there's a lot of value to be
added in the forestry sector particularly and ire just sending
logs off around the world actually doing some really cool
engineering the alternatives with wood. In Parliament, he had it
when you were down for your soiree having your barbecue,
when the notice out the back of it they're building
a six story building all with full wood structure, no
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steel and some structed classic structure. It's all New Zealand
wood laminated just as strong and a great way to
do it. So I think there's a lot of opportunity
for us to do a lot more in that space too.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Hey, the take home numbers for me on the red meat.
We're out of the EU and the UK. We now
have free trade agreements with both of them. The EU
up twenty five percent, the UK up fifty one percent,
So bring on the free trade agreements. Look, I want
to move on to a recovering economy. We're starting to
see some green shoots, but very few people are seeing
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the fruits of the recovery. From your point of view,
with an election coming up and what about ninety odd
days or something like that, is the recovery going to
be too late to say?
Speaker 5 (07:07):
If you were Bacon, well, I'm I haven't thought about
that part of it with links to an election, but
I'm more worried about actually making sure the recovery is
coming through. I mean, we've had two point one percent
growth of the last nine months. We've predicted to be
just under three for the next four years on average.
The thing that's really been fantastic in the last quarter
or so it has been manufacturing growth. That's been what
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the banks had. It's gone ballistic higher since twenty twenty one. Services, growing, exports,
tourism have you know, we just talked about it doing
really well. We typically are selling more than we're bringing
into the country. That's good things. The one that's been
helpful is since we announced our things around building the
Strategic Cold Reserve and place and Hunt lead the Strategic
Desil Reserve and from the ray the Lergy import facility,
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wholesale electricity forward prices around thirty five percent, which means,
you know, our businesses and the regions will be able
to do well. We had building consents come through yesterday
up nineteen percent, forty thousand new home construction jobs as
the biggest sector being advertising and up forty three percent.
And you know, as you know, pretty good levels of
farmer business, consumer and retail investor confidence. And the other
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one that's quite good for young people is we've got
stable house prices record first home buyers running about twenty
nine percent of all purchases, and the lowest rint increase
we've had in twenty five years. So yeah, we've got
low inflation, low lower interest rates. We've got fourteen I think,
you know, we've had up to I think seven to
fourteen percent to me in which month you look at it,
growth and the key is coming home from Australia in
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the last year and debt tracking below what was forecast.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
So yet that's positive.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
Okay, Ye's got to come through and people got to
feel it.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
All right, Well then some of them, a lot of
them aren't feeling good at the moment, but you're going
to get some higher unemployment numbers, this morning as we
record this at eight thirty, we don't know those numbers,
but they're going to be about five and a half percent.
So it's pretty hard to get a job out there,
especially if you're a young person.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
Well that's to be expeded just because you remember there
are quarterly number four Q two and of course that's
from the middle of a fuel crisis where we've had
inflation hit up to four percent. We expect the hit
to inflation and it hit to growth, and therefore we
expect them a small hit to unemployment as well. You know,
the last quarter least we saw the first turn in
unemployment as well. But you know, the yes, I mean
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that's unemployment is the last thing that gets sort of
when you get spinning under control, inflation down, interest rates down,
growth happening in an economy, then the thing that comes
on stream of unemployment. And actually when you look at
job ads and some of that activity is going to
lead into driving unemployment down, they're good leading indicators.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Peace in the Middle East? Is it a pipe dream
or is it in the pipeline or all it allders
blow up again? It seems to me, who knows, Maybe
on the cusp of something here. What's your intel telling you?
Speaker 5 (09:44):
Oh, look, it's just been such a volatile, fragile roller
coaster ride. I mean, lots of promises of peace and
cessfires and MOUs and then hostility.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
Start up again. So it's a very volatile situation.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
All we can do is just prepare for it. That's
why we've put the money aside in case things continue.
You would have heard us say this week that you know,
we yes, we've had four weeks of the petrol price
being under three dollars, but now it's forecast to jump
this week. We just don't want to be turning things
on off, so we need to see some stability there.
But you know, there's lots of you know, conversations and
(10:19):
you know, at the end of the day, you know,
you sort of do you do start? You know that
we were the ships were flowing before this conflict. They're
not flowing now. It's having huge impact on the global economy.
It's having has had huge impact on New Zealand. I
think our management of it has been, you know, very good,
and as a result, I think we come through it
with less challenges than other countries have. With some of
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the measures and actions that they've taken. So you know,
our job. As you can see, even through this crisis,
we're still seeing good levels of exports. Our products are
getting to markets, We've got good supplies in country, all
of those kinds of issues. But yes, it's going to
keep going and bouncing and who knows it's the short answer.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Well, we started off talking about meet and messages. Maybe
you need to winstant round for a barbecue and give
them a soothing massage, tell them to calm the farmer weaver.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
I'll leave that to you, Jamie.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon, thanks for your time. Appreciated on
the country every Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
You take care, have a great week.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
See you there you go. We did that a wee
bit earlier this morning. That unemployment rate, as I said
at the top of the show, came in at five
point six percent. Economists we're picking five point four or
five point five. It is really tough. And I know
this from personal kind of family experience or wider family experience.
It's hard for young people to get a job, you know,
(11:38):
even with degrees in that you want to see some
of the kids I shouldn't say that that turn up
in this building and have wonderful qualifications, and they're truly
starting at the bottom end. I know I do say
to my kids like a typical boomer, But the thing is,
I reckon your first job's the most important one to land.
(12:00):
Once you've got that, you're in You're in the system.
So as long as Mum and Dad can afford to
sub you get your first job, get some runs on
the board, Prove you can work hard, Prove you can
get out of bed and turn up every day is
a really good start, and you will find that you're
in the job system and the lawyers be a job
waiting for you. Lecture done for today. I'll get told
(12:23):
off for saying that one when I get home. Actually,
we did have an argument about a son who was
who was doing a law degree. He eventually got his
law degree. Very proud of him in the end, but
he diverted. He pivoted for a while and did a
philosophy degree. I wasn't a big fan of the philosophy degree.
(12:43):
The program director said, let him follow his dreams. How
did that end up for him? Anyhow? That's a family issue.
Up next, I am really going to get a thrashing
when I get home. Up next, Matt Bolger, managing director
of co Op a Fee, we'll have a look at
last night's GDT auction. I don't think it was too bad. Actually, hey,
(13:04):
and just on the before I forget about it, I
had a look just before I got on air at
the Brent crude price. It's now sitting at seventy six bucks,
remembering it peaked at one hundred and eighteen on April
the twenty ninth. And there are strange noises. And there's
always strange noises with Trump, but there are strange noises
coming out. Maybe just maybe the Prime Minister wouldn't commit himself,
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but maybe both sides are getting sick of this senseless war.
Wouldn't it be good if the Strait if A moves
could open up and the world could get back to
business Before the end of the hour, the social media
darlings Mid Canterbury Farmers Craig Hickman and Duncan hum Craig
Wiggy Wiggins also at a Mid Canterbury, but he's in
(13:47):
Nelson today. This is the country brought to you by
Farmlands and I see zoo range.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
No matter how hard track.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
You kep pushing the saga breakrow welcome back to the country.
Let's have a look at last night's global dairy trade
auction up zero point one percent, whole milk powder up
zero point two percent, skim milk powder up one point
two percent. To tell us more, Matt Bolger, the memd
(14:35):
of co op Affairs for Fonterra. Matt, I reckon farmers
who were up to their elbows and carving at the
moment quite literally would take this, wouldn't they.
Speaker 6 (14:44):
Yeah, I think so. Good to Jamie.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
I mean he's hugely busy time on farm of course.
And so those that woke up and saw the saw
the results today. I think what we can say is
it's a stable result. Importantly, while the price is held
pretty much. This is against the context of around a
fifty percent increase in terms of the volume that was
on the option versus a fortnight ago. So to have
(15:09):
all of that extra supply come onto the platform and
hold prices, I think, yeah, will take that one.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Yeah. And I see numbers out for durn production. Albeit
it's a small amount of milk, but up six five
percent here in New Zealand. So you know, as I
finally say, if I'm the little bloke sitting in Beijing,
steering out another high rise apartment, and my job is
to monitor the New Zealand climate and milk production volumes.
(15:34):
You might think we could be up in volumes this year.
He's probably factoring in He's probably factoring in super al
Nino as well. But just on those volumes alone, it's
a pretty positive start to the season.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
Yeah, it is. I mean, obviously it's still early days,
but great to have it all the same. So volumes
are up there, a lot of people are watching, and
of course we're making some plans in case the Onino
does come with stouts in the second for the season.
But no, you're right.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
And look, while UIs.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
In Europe have slowed down a bit, they are still
up on last year, still tracking higher. You when you
compare a month, a year and a year with a
year ago, and so you know that's up off a
higher base, of course. So again, to have the prices
hold stable in that environment, I guess just talks to
underlying strength and the demand for dairy. You know, it's
(16:26):
a great food.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
I would tho I would have thought Europe would start
getting pinched now in terms of dairy production because of
the heat waves, it's got to have effect have an
effect on production.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
Yeah. Well, well, and it's starting to. So while they're growing,
the growth has slowed quite a lot. You know, there's
still positive though. The other thing is now carrying these inventories. Hence,
you know, I think that's had a bit of a
suppressing effect on the prices of European butter and so on.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Now, I was reading commentary from Mike McIntyre out of
Jardin and he said this. He said, three thy four
hundred and fifty whole milk prow a whole milk powder price,
and a key we dollar that is hell bent on improvement.
It would seem unlikely to deliver the current milk price midpoint,
which is of course nine to twenty five. So and
(17:14):
this is his commentary, not mine or yours, Matt Bolger,
So he said this obviously being some conservatism being built
in for a later season recovery. Is that what you're
planning on as it stacks up at the moment with
these numbers, would we get to nine twenty five?
Speaker 6 (17:32):
I won't go announce a new milk price on the air,
but we've got a pretty good process where we examine
a range of inputs from futures markets to other market predictions,
what we know about sales and intel direct from customers
and inventories and so on, and we review that every
few weeks. But so no, we've got no plans to
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change what we've got now. And of course, like you said,
as right, we're trying to look through a whole season,
and we're very early in that season now. While we
try to communicate the best information that we can as
soon as we can, we also have to be factor
in that it is a long season and we're pretty
early into it.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Yeah, and the orange elephant in the room. Of course,
we don't know what mister Trump's going to do in
the Middle East. I mean, that could end up being
a boost for the world economy, if for heaven, for Biddy,
you know, peace breaks out on the Middle East.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Yeah, it could.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
I mean, we obviously keep in close touch with our
coeagues up there in the Middle East, and they're doing
a great job. And we're still, you know, despite it's
pretty hard to follow what's happening on the peace process
day to day or week to week, you know, we're
still getting product through to customers and supporting their customers
via it adds some cost, but you know the team,
(18:45):
they're doing a fantastic job supporting the market.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Now, this question wasn't on the script. Don't duck for
cover you possibly will Darra. I see that Mark Delator
from Open Country Dairy, the chief executive your biggest competitors,
saying it's not a level playing field. Does Fonterra still
have an unfair advantage?
Speaker 6 (19:03):
Yes, no, I didn't see those comments on and look
I take them with the grain of salt. But the
will engage very well and have engaged obviously in the.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Early stages of the dero process.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
So we'll have more to say on that as it
comes out. But we're very we're very pro competition, keen
to make sure that there is a level playing field
for us to compete on as well, so we're happy
to engage in their process with the government.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Well, I'm not sure whether that was an answer or not,
but anyhow, you've you've swatted off Mark. I wonder if
he comes back swinging we'll see. Matt Bolger, Managing Director
co op Affairs for Fonterra, thanks for your time and
as I say, GDT auction up zero point one percent
following a lift a couple of weeks ago. I think
we'll take this because it was getting a wee bit
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worryingly low there. So this is a move or a
stabilization in the right direction.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
Yeah, that's the one. Thanks Jamie, so great action.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Thank you, Matt. Eight after twelve you are with the country.
Keep your feedback coming in. Our text line is five nine.
Hang on, let me just flick screens over here. Luxon
still wants us to be in the Paris Accord. Does
not get my vote, says one Texter. Okay, right up next,
(20:19):
we'll have a look at rural news and sports news.
Craig Hickman Duncan Hum the Farmer panel today, both out
of mid Canterbury. One's a dairy farmer, one's a deer farmer.
They both got high social media profiles in New Zealand
AG Craig Wiggy Wiggins is a Nelson for the Fencing
(20:40):
Contractor's Annual or Association Annual Conference. And I'm still looking
for someone to round out the show. Riley, if you're
listening in Auckland, I might even go to you on
that desperate But anyhow, we'll see what happens. See that
the pants here on the Country Today. Up next, Rural News.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Seeks it.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
It is twenty nine away from one. Michelle chose nineties
music as our theme today. I went and changed and
I haven't heard Jennifer Page and Crushed. Do you remember
the song?
Speaker 7 (21:28):
I do remember the song? In fact, I think I
have it on a CD at home for either now
that's what I call music or gramm. Do you remember
those CDs?
Speaker 4 (21:35):
Yeaheah, Well they followed on from Solid Gold Hits Volumes
one to forty five that we used to get on vinyl,
Great Mexico when vinyl was popular. But it's everything cyclical
in this world. Vinyl is still popular. You can't beat
the physical act of playing a record on a turntable.
Absolutely not love it right, what have we got for
(21:56):
rural News? Let's see what Michelle has for us today.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
The Country's World News with Cob Cadets, New Zealand's leading
right on lawn, bower bread. Visit steel Ford dot Cot
dot NZ for your local stockist.
Speaker 7 (22:09):
And beef and lamb New Zealand says sheep and beef
farm conversions to forestry have slowed, but productive farmland remains
at risk. New research shows almost three hundred and thirty
thousand hectares of sheep and beef land has been sold
for forestry since twenty seventeen, with another thirty thousand hectares
confirmed since mid twenty twenty five. Beef and Lamb sheer
(22:29):
Kate Ackland says while new forestry restrictions are a step
in the right direction, they still allow significant land conversion.
She warns it up to twenty seven thousand hectores a
year could continue to move into forestry, potentially resulting in
the loss of one million hectares of pastoral land by
twenty fifty. Ackland says beef and lamb supports planting trees
on farms, but large scale conversions risk reducing rural jobs,
(22:52):
local services and New Zealand's food production capacity. And that's
rural news.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Sports with AFCO invested in your foaming.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Success, boxer Joseph Parker has revealed he'll be back in
the ring soon as his provisional ban for a failed
doping test has been lifted. Are UK Anti Doping suspended
Parker after he tested positive for a recreational drug last October.
FIFA president now this Skuy's dodgy, Michelle, this Skuy's dodgy
(23:24):
Gianni Infantino. Hey, what was that?
Speaker 7 (23:28):
Is the sale thing of FIFA?
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Yeah, yeah, he was going to flag it off and
then they threatened to sackem and he's ringing up Trump.
It's all I don't know. Anyhow, he did give Trump
a peace prize, of course, and then he had to
push old Trumpey off stage when they were presenting Spain
with the FIFA World Cup. Anyhow, what is he on about?
He has summons leaders of football's world's governing body to
(23:51):
a meeting in Morocco tonight. The Swiss big cheese. I
like what they've done there. Has faced unrelenting criticism for
his plan to sell FIFA's commercial rights at World's World
Cups and other pinnacle tournaments. His position remains in jeopardy,
and former English Test captain n Stokes hopes he'll have
(24:12):
another chapter with the national side as a coach rather
than a player. So there's your sports news. Keep your
text coming in. I was on the wrong, wrong tech screen.
I'm not even getting them all. But we'll sort that
out on the break and we'll come back with the
Farmer panel. Just a wee bit of Hansen for my
(24:44):
next guest the Farmer Panel out of mid Canterbury. Craig Hickman,
Duncan come just before we go to the lads um.
Currently this is a text and currently ten and sixty
nine jobs listed on trade me. It's people too lazy
to work is the reason unemployment is too high. I
think you're a bit harsh there, text up the benefit
(25:05):
is too benefiting? Yep. But what Maggie Fatcher used to say,
five percent of the population is unemployable and what do
we got unemployment of five point six percent. I'm not
saying five percent are unemployable, but certainly a percent that
jar not these two they're dynamic farmers. Craig Hickman, Duncan.
Hum one is what do you call yourself? Dairy man?
(25:27):
Is your social media platform, isn't it? Craig? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Is indeed?
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Now, who's the biggest social media darling out of you?
Or Duncan? Because he's enz farming Facebook?
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Oh, definitely definitely Dunk and he leaves me in the dust. No,
no problems at all, Dunk.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
And how many you've got like one hundred and fifty
thousand followers or something like that? Or is it grown?
Speaker 8 (25:48):
I don't try to say followers. Actually, Jamie, it's more
of a community seal, So I don't think anyone's necessarily
following pass as such, but we're all kind of going
the same way together, I guess.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
So.
Speaker 8 (25:59):
Yeah, Facebook's about two hundred and something and Instagram's eighty
something as well.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
So yeah, how smart were you to get in early
and get the domain name or whatever they call it
in zed Farming?
Speaker 8 (26:14):
Yeah, I'd say right place, right time. I'd think, when
did you start that up? So Tyler started? He go
April twenty fourteen.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
So this is Tyler Firefield, isn't it.
Speaker 8 (26:28):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Is he still involved? Yep?
Speaker 8 (26:31):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
So how many people of the useless trivia? How many
people are behind the in zed Farming Facebook page with
a quarter of a million followers or a community?
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (26:41):
So Tyler and I believe or I don't really talk
to hibout each other much at all because he's busy
and I'm busy, and we just took away doing the
most of it. And then we've got Kate that looks
as for our jobs website, and then just a few
other people that come and go as they see fit,
and just that you Tyler and I did bulk with it?
Speaker 4 (27:03):
Do you make money out of it?
Speaker 8 (27:05):
Oh? We no, We generally try not to monetize it
too much. It's just more of do.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
You realize with a following or a community that big,
you could flog it off to one of the big
corporates make a fortune, Duncan.
Speaker 8 (27:19):
Every man's got a price, I guess.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
So it's for So there you go, Craig, Craig Hickmand
dairy farmer, dairy man. You could buy it and put
some of your videos up there.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
I'm spending my Fonterra money on something else. Sorry, So no,
Duncan's going to have to keep running it for a
while longer.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Yet, tell me about your social media following.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Oh look, I do it for my own own pure
and annoyment, and people seem to like it and follow
on its started. I'll put it spilled over onto TikTok
and now I'm doing a little bit of Instagram as well.
But it's just when when I get the time, if
something pops into my head, I will post it.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
So which one of these platforms do you need to
be across them all? I mean there's Facebook, Twitter or
rex or whatever Instagram. What were the other ones you've
ever mentioned. I don't even bother with most of them,
to be perfectly honest, you'd spend your whole day just
flipping from platform to platform.
Speaker 6 (28:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Well, Twitter used to be the place to be, but
it's the whole landscape there's changed in recent years, so
I'm not nearly online as much as I used to be.
I say, just a couple of times a week, I'll
pop up and post something or reply to something.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
You won't have much time to post stuff at this
time of the dairy man, because you'll be flat out carving.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
No, it's been a phenomenal start of the season. We've
got about two hundred and fifty and already and we're
only less than the week into calving. So it's the
weather's playing playing the game too. We missed most of
that bad whether the rest of the country seemed to get.
We were promised minus three today and I woke up
to I think two or three degrees. We had a
bit of a cold southerly yesterday, but no snow, no sleep,
(29:03):
no rain. It is perfect, great utilization of the grass,
and the cows are all happy in doing what they're
supposed to be doing.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
Were you happy with the global dairy trade auction results
steady as she goes.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Oh, I am happy any day that it doesn't go down,
and old and steady was perfect. We might see a
bit of a bumpers as the northern hemisphere start slowing
down and we start ramping up hopefully.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Well, if I was to reinvent myself and reincarnate myself
as a farmer, duncan hum, I think I'd be like you.
I'd be a deer farmer, because then I wouldn't have
to bother about all the hard yards around, carving and
lambing like the poor old dairy and sheep farmers. Do
you guys get it easy?
Speaker 8 (29:47):
I wouldn't say we get it easy, but definitely this
time of the year, well, believe it or not. Today
I'm actually just setting up the rate to rake up
some silence to bail. But no, it's definitely not without
its challenges. But I guess the weather resilience. If we've
got to foot of snow tomorrow, it wouldn't really matter,
whereas if we were carving or something like that, then
(30:09):
you would be up to our elbows in not having
a good time. So yeah, everything's got its everything's got
its place, but wouldn't mind that milk check at the
moment though, So the dairy guys definitely deserve what they
Yet I think, well.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
What is Venison and velvet like at the moment.
Speaker 8 (30:28):
I don't know about velvet for the coming season, but
it's probably not going to be great as what we're
planning on in Venison. Pretty happy with our contracts that
we've got for the year in place where looking north
of twelve bucks at the moment, coming into spring, So
that's good. I would like to like it to go
(30:49):
up a bit more, but yeah, twelve bucks is pretty decent.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
Really. Yeah, not to be sniffed at anything else you
too want to add. Before I bid you farewell and
let you carry on with your social media.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Endeavors, I'll tell you we'll beef. Talking about Venison prices,
Beef prices is showing those signs of flowing. People are
contracting one hundred kilo white faced calves out there in
the South Island for eight hundred dollars, up up from
seven to fifty last year, So beef prices for those
people to make any money, beef prices need to continue
to climb. Great for me, sailling four day old calves,
(31:22):
I tell you.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Yeah, Well it's do you think dairy beef will be
the ultimate solution for the bobby calf issue?
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Well, half of our beef comes from dairy beef anyway,
So I mean, if we put every single Bobby calf
on read it to beef, that would wipe out our
beef farmers. Well, it would replace our beef farmers. So
I'm sure there's a happy medium. And I've gone from
in the past sending six hundred Bobby calves, are sending
(31:49):
fewer than three hundred. So we're trending in the right direction.
And with prices like they are, and the hard when
the price is full and nobody wants to read them,
you do with the men.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Well there you go. Okay, we found out from that
yarn that the inn Zed Farming facebook page is up
for sale for a corporate and that you two like
White Hanson in the nineties. Yes see, boys, there we go,
duncan hum n z Ed Farming facebook page. They do
do a very good job. And Craig Hickman, dairy man,
(32:22):
you can follow him on social media as well. Right
up next it's Craig Weggy Wiggins. We're going to another
mid Canterbury bloke. They're dominating the show. He's a Nelson Today.
Stegger you on U me ah the nineties musical theme
(32:43):
for today. Here's a man who would have been in
his prime in the nineties. I reckon Craig Wiggy Wiggins,
third guest from Mid Canterbury Today. But you're a Nelson Wiggy.
The Fencing Contractors Association and your conference and they have
a fencing open day happening.
Speaker 9 (32:58):
Yeah, Jamie, get everybod.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (33:00):
We're at a reworker not far from Watchawaker and there's
probably about one hundred and fifty people looking at all
the new stuff in fencing, learning some techniques. We've got
a heap of students here going through a competition, some
of them from Geraldine and some from local schools. So
it's amazing to be here. And we've got the calf
beamily health checks as well going on on the patron
(33:21):
of Fken so it's nice to be up here.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Well good on you. You do a great job commentating
all the fencing competitions. I must say, HARKing back to
my days as a farmer, which for a long long
time ago now, Willie, one job I loved two jobs.
I love plowing and making offense or building a fence
because at the end of the day you could look
back upon your work even better if it was straight.
Speaker 9 (33:43):
Yeah, that's right. A lot of people get to put
up a fence and leave it behind, you know, fens
and good fences the last forty fifty years, and even
for some of those guys that drive down the road
and look up a hill and say I built that fence,
and if they do it with a sense of pride,
and there's so much technology and new equipment, now was
the place to come and look at it.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
Hey, you gave me a text yesterday when I was
looking for someone to anto. It's two days in a row.
I got dumped by Vanessa winning today, but I'll get
her on the show in the next few days. And
you were talking about you just wanted to pay a
weed tribute a week on to our old mate Jim Hopkins.
Hopkins because there's a connection between you and him. You
(34:22):
took over from him as the compere for the Young
Farmer Regional Finals.
Speaker 9 (34:27):
Yeah, it did, mate. It was great to take over
from Jim. It was a really hard time for Jim
and I. There was a lot of respects going for
both of us. You know, Jim had been in the
job for twenty one years and I sort of got
asked to step up and fill his shoes. And speaking
of those shoes, Jim used to wear a pair out
every regional final behind the stage, basing the boards before
(34:49):
he went on stage. But we became pretty good friends,
and I got him back a couple of times. That
helped me out with Egris sports and stuff like that.
And you know, to take over from somebody that's been
in the job for twenty one years, it was never
going to go easy. But Jim and I realized that
that's just and he was really happy that a farmer
and somebody that would carry on and look after the
(35:13):
competitors as much as we did. He was happy with that.
He just wasn't happy to hand over the reins. But
you know, that's exactly what happens as we get older.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
I guess, yeah, are there amazing thing for a guy
who was so comfortable and so natural in front of
a microphone or on a stage, he was awful behind it.
I used to say, you're a bad tempered bugger. He
would be chain smoking, as you say, he'd be marching
up and down. He was a very nervous performer. But
when the lights went on and the mic went on,
(35:42):
bang showtime.
Speaker 9 (35:44):
Yeah. He was a perfectionist, to be fair. He put
so much pressure on himself to get it right. But
you know, he didn't always get it right, but he'd
own it to oh you guys didn't like this one,
and he'd carry on to the next joke with the
next line. But yeah, he was very, very particular, and
some people sort of thought it was the work with
I just admired how much professionalism he brought to the
front of house. But as you said, the back out
(36:06):
there was plenty of time.
Speaker 8 (36:07):
Well.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
He put a lot of time into prepping for local
events and he would go to the local newspaper and
he would tie everything in beautifully. He was a master
at his craft. Very quickly. You're tied up with the
car Family Foundation. This is Craig and his dad Greg.
They do a great job. They're big operators in New Zealand.
Agg But what I like about them and what they're
(36:28):
doing for you is enabling you to give back.
Speaker 9 (36:32):
Yeah, they are you know dat health checks that we
do around the country. We did seven over seven hundred
health checks.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Last year we.
Speaker 9 (36:40):
Referred over one hundred people on They were all in
rural New Zealand events, so we referred to hundred people
onto their doctors and bits and pieces, and quite regularly
we get a message back saying, hey, you guys saved
my life. My heart was in a bad way. I
actually had some issues and if you hadn't had the
health check van there on that day and told me
that I needed to go, I probably wouldn't be. So
(37:01):
I really admire the car family for what they do
and help us out and they put it back into
their people and of course the Carfields Group have got
agencies all around the country, so giving them back is
a big thing of it.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
Good on, yep, Weggy, You enjoy the rest of your
day in Nelson at the Fencing Contractors Association and your
conference and open day on fencing. Riley Kennedy, I think
from business deck desk to wrap the country big that
we'll go to. Okay, it is coming up to five
(37:36):
away from one. Wrapping the country has some more of
your feedback. Luxing is Luxelon is digging a big hole
for himself. Unemployment high nine million, on prisoners, massaging, yes,
I agree with you. That's terrible and now he's keeping
us in the Paris agreement from Clinton didn't want a
bar of it. What do you think, Riley Kennedy, Rural
(37:57):
Broadcaster of the Year and lead rural journalists for business desks,
that I'd put two business desks in there. I think
I might have how are you good? Afs?
Speaker 2 (38:07):
And I should also add that my job title is
now extended to your desperate correspondent.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
Yeah, well it's normally someone like Rocks, but I had
him on he was my desperate correspondent last week. Hey,
on a serious note, you do a really good job.
And I would encourage people to subscribe to Business Tests.
There's always good lots of rural stories in there. And
next week and I think on Tuesday I might be
speaking to Steven Gerin from chief executive at PGG Rights
(38:35):
and it's reporting season and we would expect a lot
of these rural servicing companies, Riley, to have good results
this year. If they're not going to get a good
result this year, I'll never get one.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Yes, there's a looks freek it sort of kicks off
of it was sort of started this week. Actually the
Ravensown reported on Monday they had a good result back
paying rebates and for the first time since twenty twenty two,
so this shearholders will be very pleased to getting fifteen
dollars a ton. On Friday, we have TMG Global which
is divesting its fresh business, and then next week it
sort of rarely ramps up. We've got PGG Rights and
(39:09):
a too Milk the week AFT and a whole lot
of other companies, and then it sort of will rarely
run through until late next month when you've got frontier
in the sin lads. But if you can't make money
this year, you're probably not going to. I know PGG
Rights in the their half year had a really good result.
I think they were on track to hit close to
correct me if I'm wrong. He had nearly a billion
(39:30):
dollars in revenue. And you know, obviously people have just
got a lot more money, a lot more spending power,
and they obviously showed up in Ravingstone result. You know,
I think the revenue was up quite a bit. Can't
remember the figure off the top of the head. Their
volumes are up, people have a lot more spending power,
so and I think that'll really show the two speed
of two speed economy. I know you're talking about it
(39:50):
earlier that here in the cities things are not doing
too well as in Wellington for the last couple of
weeks and things are pretty bad there. But you go
out but below the Bombays and north of the narrow
and Gorge and things are looking pretty good.
Speaker 4 (40:05):
Well rileygh, I'm sure you did your bid to improve
the economy and Courtney Place.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
I can neither consume nor deny.
Speaker 4 (40:13):
You're happy to be the MP for Taro. Thanks for
your time. There we go. Riley Kennedy from Business Desk,
wrapping the country for today, Catch you tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's the Country
podcast with Jamie McKay. Thanks to farmlands helping to keep
animals fed and thriving.
Catch all the latest from the land. It's the Country
Podcast with Jamie McKay thanks to farmlands helping to keep
animals fed and thriving. Oh you get me ready and
you're fifty six, shery, Why don't we pus sit down
(00:23):
in the shed.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Took shelter on my front porch.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
The Dandy Lyons sound scorch like gold.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Laundy.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
You play.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Good afternoon, New Zealand. Welcome to the Country. I'm Jamie McKay.
This is Paula Cole and where have all the cowboys gone?
We're kicking it off with the Prime Minister. No segue
there at all. Earlier this morning I caught up with
him because you've got to get the PM when he's available.
And we were pondering at the unemployment rate. Well, obviously
we didn't know when we chatted, as you'll find out,
(01:02):
but it's coming at five point six percent. We were
speculating on five and a half or five point four,
so it's the highest unemployment rate since September twenty fifteen.
Very difficult out there, especially for young people to get
a job, to get a first job. Okay, the Prime
Minister to kick off the show, could peace in the
(01:23):
Middle East, be our savior or be his savior heading
into the election. Matt Bolger will join us from Fonterra.
He's the managing director of co Op Affairs. We'll have
a look at last night Steady as she goes GDT auction.
I reckon all you dairy farmers out there, flat out,
boots on, up to your elbows in it would take this.
(01:47):
The result was up zero point one percent. A skim
milk powder up one point two. Whole milk part is
zero point two. So after a couple of falls or
three falls to kick off the new season, we've had
two positive auctions. Today's Farmer panel a pair of darlings,
social media darlings, Craig Hickman and Duncan Hum. Dairy man
(02:10):
very high profile on social media. Craig Hickman and of
course Duncan Hum is one of the guys behind the
NZ Farming Facebook page which is very popular. Craig Wiggy
Wiggins is making his way or I think he's in
Nelson for the Fence and Contractors Association conference. We'll find
out what he's up to. A few health checks, a
bit of a mental health check for the top paddock
(02:33):
and I'm looking for someone else to round out the
show because I was going to be chatting to Vanessa
Wanning from MPI, but she's dumped me. Never mind, we'll
catch up with her in the next day or two.
Up next the Prime Minister to kick off the Country.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
He read.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Wednesdays on the Country. The Prime Minister kicks off the show,
Christopher Luxen. Do you want to start with the good
news or the bad news? The good news is the meat.
The bad news is the Maori massage is nine million
dollars in our prisons? What the what the hell's going on?
Speaker 5 (03:29):
Well, the the large government agencies across the piece, and
good on Mark Mitchell for anything, and I in doing
something about it, But that just sounds like absolute lunacy.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
So good that it's been stopped.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Whose head rolls because of this? It's all very well
saying Mark Mitchell stopped that didn't know about it, But
there has to be a consequence. Surely, what happens if
you're someone who's been assaulted by one of these thugs
or had your property stolen. They're getting nine million dollars
worth of massages, you're out of pocket and beaten up.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
Yeah, well, look I mean, as you know, we've got
forty six fewer victims of violent crime, and I think
youth offendings down twenty two percent under our government. And
yes we've put two thousand more people into prison. What
we want them in prison for is to get rehabilitation services,
not to have a massage. So that's really where the
focus needs to go, and that's where the nine million
dollars needs to be spent actually making sure we're rehabilitating
(04:21):
those people with the programs that are actually working and
stuff in the dumb ones that aren't working.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
It's woke nonsense, Rightio, are the good news. Let's get
on to the meat. Gee, you'd be buggered without the
farmer's Prime Minister.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
Well, I think you've got a government that's done a
great job, Jamie. I just take all the farmers to
close their eyes. Go back two and a half years.
You were going to be thrown into an easier scheme.
You're going to be hit with agricultural pricing, all sorts
of things. And look what we're doing when we've got
the markets pumping and opening up. I mean I was
looking at those numbers that came through basically red meat
(04:52):
as up, I think what was it up twenty one percent,
and when you look at markets, like even the US
was up twenty one despite the tariff. China was up
seven percent. European Union, which is the EU, we got FAA,
we've got into force, drove another two billion dollars of
red meat into New Zealand over the last year and
it's up twenty five percent. And actually the UK drove
(05:13):
another billion dollars into New Zealand and that was up
fifty one percent. Even Canada was up too, So you
know there's some really good growth. And what's happening essentially,
is the world a short of you know, red meat.
The herds have been run down around the world. Our
products of super high quality, as you saw in the US.
We've got two challenges there. One one good news story,
(05:34):
which is beef has got no tariff assassinated with it
because of the quality of the beef and what it
does to the mix of beef in America. And then
we've got this challenge about sheep meat.
Speaker 6 (05:43):
Which we'll oppose rigorously.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
So yeah, red meat's going well, dairies going well, horticultures
going is going really really well. Woll as you've seen
as have seen has been doing some cool as growing.
But we also have got a chance now to innovate
on will and to add more value to it like
we have been doing with red meat, dairy and in
this last week I was in I was at a
red stag and seeing what they are doing with laminated wood,
(06:06):
and you know, there's a lot of value to be
added in the forestry sector particularly and ire just sending
logs off around the world actually doing some really cool
engineering the alternatives with wood. In Parliament, he had it
when you were down for your soiree having your barbecue,
when the notice out the back of it they're building
a six story building all with full wood structure, no
(06:27):
steel and some structed classic structure. It's all New Zealand
wood laminated just as strong and a great way to
do it. So I think there's a lot of opportunity
for us to do a lot more in that space too.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Hey, the take home numbers for me on the red meat.
We're out of the EU and the UK. We now
have free trade agreements with both of them. The EU
up twenty five percent, the UK up fifty one percent,
So bring on the free trade agreements. Look, I want
to move on to a recovering economy. We're starting to
see some green shoots, but very few people are seeing
(06:58):
the fruits of the recovery. From your point of view,
with an election coming up and what about ninety odd
days or something like that, is the recovery going to
be too late to say?
Speaker 5 (07:07):
If you were Bacon, well, I'm I haven't thought about
that part of it with links to an election, but
I'm more worried about actually making sure the recovery is
coming through. I mean, we've had two point one percent
growth of the last nine months. We've predicted to be
just under three for the next four years on average.
The thing that's really been fantastic in the last quarter
or so it has been manufacturing growth. That's been what
(07:28):
the banks had. It's gone ballistic higher since twenty twenty one. Services, growing, exports,
tourism have you know, we just talked about it doing
really well. We typically are selling more than we're bringing
into the country. That's good things. The one that's been
helpful is since we announced our things around building the
Strategic Cold Reserve and place and Hunt lead the Strategic
Desil Reserve and from the ray the Lergy import facility,
(07:49):
wholesale electricity forward prices around thirty five percent, which means,
you know, our businesses and the regions will be able
to do well. We had building consents come through yesterday
up nineteen percent, forty thousand new home construction jobs as
the biggest sector being advertising and up forty three percent.
And you know, as you know, pretty good levels of
farmer business, consumer and retail investor confidence. And the other
(08:11):
one that's quite good for young people is we've got
stable house prices record first home buyers running about twenty
nine percent of all purchases, and the lowest rint increase
we've had in twenty five years. So yeah, we've got
low inflation, low lower interest rates. We've got fourteen I think,
you know, we've had up to I think seven to
fourteen percent to me in which month you look at it,
growth and the key is coming home from Australia in
(08:31):
the last year and debt tracking below what was forecast.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
So yet that's positive.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
Okay, Ye's got to come through and people got to
feel it.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
All right, Well then some of them, a lot of
them aren't feeling good at the moment, but you're going
to get some higher unemployment numbers, this morning as we
record this at eight thirty, we don't know those numbers,
but they're going to be about five and a half percent.
So it's pretty hard to get a job out there,
especially if you're a young person.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
Well that's to be expeded just because you remember there
are quarterly number four Q two and of course that's
from the middle of a fuel crisis where we've had
inflation hit up to four percent. We expect the hit
to inflation and it hit to growth, and therefore we
expect them a small hit to unemployment as well. You know,
the last quarter least we saw the first turn in
unemployment as well. But you know, the yes, I mean
(09:15):
that's unemployment is the last thing that gets sort of
when you get spinning under control, inflation down, interest rates down,
growth happening in an economy, then the thing that comes
on stream of unemployment. And actually when you look at
job ads and some of that activity is going to
lead into driving unemployment down, they're good leading indicators.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Peace in the Middle East? Is it a pipe dream
or is it in the pipeline or all it allders
blow up again? It seems to me, who knows, Maybe
on the cusp of something here. What's your intel telling you?
Speaker 5 (09:44):
Oh, look, it's just been such a volatile, fragile roller
coaster ride. I mean, lots of promises of peace and
cessfires and MOUs and then hostility.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
Start up again. So it's a very volatile situation.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
All we can do is just prepare for it. That's
why we've put the money aside in case things continue.
You would have heard us say this week that you know,
we yes, we've had four weeks of the petrol price
being under three dollars, but now it's forecast to jump
this week. We just don't want to be turning things
on off, so we need to see some stability there.
But you know, there's lots of you know, conversations and
(10:19):
you know, at the end of the day, you know,
you sort of do you do start? You know that
we were the ships were flowing before this conflict. They're
not flowing now. It's having huge impact on the global economy.
It's having has had huge impact on New Zealand. I
think our management of it has been, you know, very good,
and as a result, I think we come through it
with less challenges than other countries have. With some of
(10:39):
the measures and actions that they've taken. So you know,
our job. As you can see, even through this crisis,
we're still seeing good levels of exports. Our products are
getting to markets, We've got good supplies in country, all
of those kinds of issues. But yes, it's going to
keep going and bouncing and who knows it's the short answer.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Well, we started off talking about meet and messages. Maybe
you need to winstant round for a barbecue and give
them a soothing massage, tell them to calm the farmer weaver.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
I'll leave that to you, Jamie.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon, thanks for your time. Appreciated on
the country every Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
You take care, have a great week.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
See you there you go. We did that a wee
bit earlier this morning. That unemployment rate, as I said
at the top of the show, came in at five
point six percent. Economists we're picking five point four or
five point five. It is really tough. And I know
this from personal kind of family experience or wider family experience.
It's hard for young people to get a job, you know,
(11:38):
even with degrees in that you want to see some
of the kids I shouldn't say that that turn up
in this building and have wonderful qualifications, and they're truly
starting at the bottom end. I know I do say
to my kids like a typical boomer, But the thing is,
I reckon your first job's the most important one to land.
(12:00):
Once you've got that, you're in You're in the system.
So as long as Mum and Dad can afford to
sub you get your first job, get some runs on
the board, Prove you can work hard, Prove you can
get out of bed and turn up every day is
a really good start, and you will find that you're
in the job system and the lawyers be a job
waiting for you. Lecture done for today. I'll get told
(12:23):
off for saying that one when I get home. Actually,
we did have an argument about a son who was
who was doing a law degree. He eventually got his
law degree. Very proud of him in the end, but
he diverted. He pivoted for a while and did a
philosophy degree. I wasn't a big fan of the philosophy degree.
(12:43):
The program director said, let him follow his dreams. How
did that end up for him? Anyhow? That's a family issue.
Up next, I am really going to get a thrashing
when I get home. Up next, Matt Bolger, managing director
of co Op a Fee, we'll have a look at
last night's GDT auction. I don't think it was too bad. Actually, hey,
(13:04):
and just on the before I forget about it, I
had a look just before I got on air at
the Brent crude price. It's now sitting at seventy six bucks,
remembering it peaked at one hundred and eighteen on April
the twenty ninth. And there are strange noises. And there's
always strange noises with Trump, but there are strange noises
coming out. Maybe just maybe the Prime Minister wouldn't commit himself,
(13:26):
but maybe both sides are getting sick of this senseless war.
Wouldn't it be good if the Strait if A moves
could open up and the world could get back to
business Before the end of the hour, the social media
darlings Mid Canterbury Farmers Craig Hickman and Duncan hum Craig
Wiggy Wiggins also at a Mid Canterbury, but he's in
(13:47):
Nelson today. This is the country brought to you by
Farmlands and I see zoo range.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
No matter how hard track.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
You kep pushing the saga breakrow welcome back to the country.
Let's have a look at last night's global dairy trade
auction up zero point one percent, whole milk powder up
zero point two percent, skim milk powder up one point
two percent. To tell us more, Matt Bolger, the memd
(14:35):
of co op Affairs for Fonterra. Matt, I reckon farmers
who were up to their elbows and carving at the
moment quite literally would take this, wouldn't they.
Speaker 6 (14:44):
Yeah, I think so. Good to Jamie.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
I mean he's hugely busy time on farm of course.
And so those that woke up and saw the saw
the results today. I think what we can say is
it's a stable result. Importantly, while the price is held
pretty much. This is against the context of around a
fifty percent increase in terms of the volume that was
on the option versus a fortnight ago. So to have
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all of that extra supply come onto the platform and
hold prices, I think, yeah, will take that one.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Yeah. And I see numbers out for durn production. Albeit
it's a small amount of milk, but up six five
percent here in New Zealand. So you know, as I
finally say, if I'm the little bloke sitting in Beijing,
steering out another high rise apartment, and my job is
to monitor the New Zealand climate and milk production volumes.
(15:34):
You might think we could be up in volumes this year.
He's probably factoring in He's probably factoring in super al
Nino as well. But just on those volumes alone, it's
a pretty positive start to the season.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
Yeah, it is. I mean, obviously it's still early days,
but great to have it all the same. So volumes
are up there, a lot of people are watching, and
of course we're making some plans in case the Onino
does come with stouts in the second for the season.
But no, you're right.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
And look, while UIs.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
In Europe have slowed down a bit, they are still
up on last year, still tracking higher. You when you
compare a month, a year and a year with a
year ago, and so you know that's up off a
higher base, of course. So again, to have the prices
hold stable in that environment, I guess just talks to
underlying strength and the demand for dairy. You know, it's
(16:26):
a great food.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
I would tho I would have thought Europe would start
getting pinched now in terms of dairy production because of
the heat waves, it's got to have effect have an
effect on production.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
Yeah. Well, well, and it's starting to. So while they're growing,
the growth has slowed quite a lot. You know, there's
still positive though. The other thing is now carrying these inventories. Hence,
you know, I think that's had a bit of a
suppressing effect on the prices of European butter and so on.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Now, I was reading commentary from Mike McIntyre out of
Jardin and he said this. He said, three thy four
hundred and fifty whole milk prow a whole milk powder price,
and a key we dollar that is hell bent on improvement.
It would seem unlikely to deliver the current milk price midpoint,
which is of course nine to twenty five. So and
(17:14):
this is his commentary, not mine or yours, Matt Bolger,
So he said this obviously being some conservatism being built
in for a later season recovery. Is that what you're
planning on as it stacks up at the moment with
these numbers, would we get to nine twenty five?
Speaker 6 (17:32):
I won't go announce a new milk price on the air,
but we've got a pretty good process where we examine
a range of inputs from futures markets to other market predictions,
what we know about sales and intel direct from customers
and inventories and so on, and we review that every
few weeks. But so no, we've got no plans to
(17:52):
change what we've got now. And of course, like you said,
as right, we're trying to look through a whole season,
and we're very early in that season now. While we
try to communicate the best information that we can as
soon as we can, we also have to be factor
in that it is a long season and we're pretty
early into it.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Yeah, and the orange elephant in the room. Of course,
we don't know what mister Trump's going to do in
the Middle East. I mean, that could end up being
a boost for the world economy, if for heaven, for Biddy,
you know, peace breaks out on the Middle East.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Yeah, it could.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
I mean, we obviously keep in close touch with our
coeagues up there in the Middle East, and they're doing
a great job. And we're still, you know, despite it's
pretty hard to follow what's happening on the peace process
day to day or week to week, you know, we're
still getting product through to customers and supporting their customers
via it adds some cost, but you know the team,
(18:45):
they're doing a fantastic job supporting the market.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Now, this question wasn't on the script. Don't duck for
cover you possibly will Darra. I see that Mark Delator
from Open Country Dairy, the chief executive your biggest competitors,
saying it's not a level playing field. Does Fonterra still
have an unfair advantage?
Speaker 6 (19:03):
Yes, no, I didn't see those comments on and look
I take them with the grain of salt. But the
will engage very well and have engaged obviously in the.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Early stages of the dero process.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
So we'll have more to say on that as it
comes out. But we're very we're very pro competition, keen
to make sure that there is a level playing field
for us to compete on as well, so we're happy
to engage in their process with the government.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Well, I'm not sure whether that was an answer or not,
but anyhow, you've you've swatted off Mark. I wonder if
he comes back swinging we'll see. Matt Bolger, Managing Director
co op Affairs for Fonterra, thanks for your time and
as I say, GDT auction up zero point one percent
following a lift a couple of weeks ago. I think
we'll take this because it was getting a wee bit
(19:49):
worryingly low there. So this is a move or a
stabilization in the right direction.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
Yeah, that's the one. Thanks Jamie, so great action.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Thank you, Matt. Eight after twelve you are with the country.
Keep your feedback coming in. Our text line is five nine.
Hang on, let me just flick screens over here. Luxon
still wants us to be in the Paris Accord. Does
not get my vote, says one Texter. Okay, right up next,
(20:19):
we'll have a look at rural news and sports news.
Craig Hickman Duncan Hum the Farmer panel today, both out
of mid Canterbury. One's a dairy farmer, one's a deer farmer.
They both got high social media profiles in New Zealand
AG Craig Wiggy Wiggins is a Nelson for the Fencing
(20:40):
Contractor's Annual or Association Annual Conference. And I'm still looking
for someone to round out the show. Riley, if you're
listening in Auckland, I might even go to you on
that desperate But anyhow, we'll see what happens. See that
the pants here on the Country Today. Up next, Rural News.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Seeks it.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
It is twenty nine away from one. Michelle chose nineties
music as our theme today. I went and changed and
I haven't heard Jennifer Page and Crushed. Do you remember
the song?
Speaker 7 (21:28):
I do remember the song? In fact, I think I
have it on a CD at home for either now
that's what I call music or gramm. Do you remember
those CDs?
Speaker 4 (21:35):
Yeaheah, Well they followed on from Solid Gold Hits Volumes
one to forty five that we used to get on vinyl,
Great Mexico when vinyl was popular. But it's everything cyclical
in this world. Vinyl is still popular. You can't beat
the physical act of playing a record on a turntable.
Absolutely not love it right, what have we got for
(21:56):
rural News? Let's see what Michelle has for us today.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
The Country's World News with Cob Cadets, New Zealand's leading
right on lawn, bower bread. Visit steel Ford dot Cot
dot NZ for your local stockist.
Speaker 7 (22:09):
And beef and lamb New Zealand says sheep and beef
farm conversions to forestry have slowed, but productive farmland remains
at risk. New research shows almost three hundred and thirty
thousand hectares of sheep and beef land has been sold
for forestry since twenty seventeen, with another thirty thousand hectares
confirmed since mid twenty twenty five. Beef and Lamb sheer
(22:29):
Kate Ackland says while new forestry restrictions are a step
in the right direction, they still allow significant land conversion.
She warns it up to twenty seven thousand hectores a
year could continue to move into forestry, potentially resulting in
the loss of one million hectares of pastoral land by
twenty fifty. Ackland says beef and lamb supports planting trees
on farms, but large scale conversions risk reducing rural jobs,
(22:52):
local services and New Zealand's food production capacity. And that's
rural news.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Sports with AFCO invested in your foaming.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Success, boxer Joseph Parker has revealed he'll be back in
the ring soon as his provisional ban for a failed
doping test has been lifted. Are UK Anti Doping suspended
Parker after he tested positive for a recreational drug last October.
FIFA president now this Skuy's dodgy, Michelle, this Skuy's dodgy
(23:24):
Gianni Infantino. Hey, what was that?
Speaker 7 (23:28):
Is the sale thing of FIFA?
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Yeah, yeah, he was going to flag it off and
then they threatened to sackem and he's ringing up Trump.
It's all I don't know. Anyhow, he did give Trump
a peace prize, of course, and then he had to
push old Trumpey off stage when they were presenting Spain
with the FIFA World Cup. Anyhow, what is he on about?
He has summons leaders of football's world's governing body to
(23:51):
a meeting in Morocco tonight. The Swiss big cheese. I
like what they've done there. Has faced unrelenting criticism for
his plan to sell FIFA's commercial rights at World's World
Cups and other pinnacle tournaments. His position remains in jeopardy,
and former English Test captain n Stokes hopes he'll have
(24:12):
another chapter with the national side as a coach rather
than a player. So there's your sports news. Keep your
text coming in. I was on the wrong, wrong tech screen.
I'm not even getting them all. But we'll sort that
out on the break and we'll come back with the
Farmer panel. Just a wee bit of Hansen for my
(24:44):
next guest the Farmer Panel out of mid Canterbury. Craig Hickman,
Duncan come just before we go to the lads um.
Currently this is a text and currently ten and sixty
nine jobs listed on trade me. It's people too lazy
to work is the reason unemployment is too high. I
think you're a bit harsh there, text up the benefit
(25:05):
is too benefiting? Yep. But what Maggie Fatcher used to say,
five percent of the population is unemployable and what do
we got unemployment of five point six percent. I'm not
saying five percent are unemployable, but certainly a percent that
jar not these two they're dynamic farmers. Craig Hickman, Duncan.
Hum one is what do you call yourself? Dairy man?
(25:27):
Is your social media platform, isn't it? Craig? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Is indeed?
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Now, who's the biggest social media darling out of you?
Or Duncan? Because he's enz farming Facebook?
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Oh, definitely definitely Dunk and he leaves me in the dust. No,
no problems at all, Dunk.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
And how many you've got like one hundred and fifty
thousand followers or something like that? Or is it grown?
Speaker 8 (25:48):
I don't try to say followers. Actually, Jamie, it's more
of a community seal, So I don't think anyone's necessarily
following pass as such, but we're all kind of going
the same way together, I guess.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
So.
Speaker 8 (25:59):
Yeah, Facebook's about two hundred and something and Instagram's eighty
something as well.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
So yeah, how smart were you to get in early
and get the domain name or whatever they call it
in zed Farming?
Speaker 8 (26:14):
Yeah, I'd say right place, right time. I'd think, when
did you start that up? So Tyler started? He go
April twenty fourteen.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
So this is Tyler Firefield, isn't it.
Speaker 8 (26:28):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Is he still involved? Yep?
Speaker 8 (26:31):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
So how many people of the useless trivia? How many
people are behind the in zed Farming Facebook page with
a quarter of a million followers or a community?
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (26:41):
So Tyler and I believe or I don't really talk
to hibout each other much at all because he's busy
and I'm busy, and we just took away doing the
most of it. And then we've got Kate that looks
as for our jobs website, and then just a few
other people that come and go as they see fit,
and just that you Tyler and I did bulk with it?
Speaker 4 (27:03):
Do you make money out of it?
Speaker 8 (27:05):
Oh? We no, We generally try not to monetize it
too much. It's just more of do.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
You realize with a following or a community that big,
you could flog it off to one of the big
corporates make a fortune, Duncan.
Speaker 8 (27:19):
Every man's got a price, I guess.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
So it's for So there you go, Craig, Craig Hickmand
dairy farmer, dairy man. You could buy it and put
some of your videos up there.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
I'm spending my Fonterra money on something else. Sorry, So no,
Duncan's going to have to keep running it for a
while longer.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Yet, tell me about your social media following.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Oh look, I do it for my own own pure
and annoyment, and people seem to like it and follow
on its started. I'll put it spilled over onto TikTok
and now I'm doing a little bit of Instagram as well.
But it's just when when I get the time, if
something pops into my head, I will post it.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
So which one of these platforms do you need to
be across them all? I mean there's Facebook, Twitter or
rex or whatever Instagram. What were the other ones you've
ever mentioned. I don't even bother with most of them,
to be perfectly honest, you'd spend your whole day just
flipping from platform to platform.
Speaker 6 (28:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Well, Twitter used to be the place to be, but
it's the whole landscape there's changed in recent years, so
I'm not nearly online as much as I used to be.
I say, just a couple of times a week, I'll
pop up and post something or reply to something.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
You won't have much time to post stuff at this
time of the dairy man, because you'll be flat out carving.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
No, it's been a phenomenal start of the season. We've
got about two hundred and fifty and already and we're
only less than the week into calving. So it's the
weather's playing playing the game too. We missed most of
that bad whether the rest of the country seemed to get.
We were promised minus three today and I woke up
to I think two or three degrees. We had a
bit of a cold southerly yesterday, but no snow, no sleep,
(29:03):
no rain. It is perfect, great utilization of the grass,
and the cows are all happy in doing what they're
supposed to be doing.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
Were you happy with the global dairy trade auction results
steady as she goes.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Oh, I am happy any day that it doesn't go down,
and old and steady was perfect. We might see a
bit of a bumpers as the northern hemisphere start slowing
down and we start ramping up hopefully.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Well, if I was to reinvent myself and reincarnate myself
as a farmer, duncan hum, I think I'd be like you.
I'd be a deer farmer, because then I wouldn't have
to bother about all the hard yards around, carving and
lambing like the poor old dairy and sheep farmers. Do
you guys get it easy?
Speaker 8 (29:47):
I wouldn't say we get it easy, but definitely this
time of the year, well, believe it or not. Today
I'm actually just setting up the rate to rake up
some silence to bail. But no, it's definitely not without
its challenges. But I guess the weather resilience. If we've
got to foot of snow tomorrow, it wouldn't really matter,
whereas if we were carving or something like that, then
(30:09):
you would be up to our elbows in not having
a good time. So yeah, everything's got its everything's got
its place, but wouldn't mind that milk check at the
moment though, So the dairy guys definitely deserve what they
Yet I think, well.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
What is Venison and velvet like at the moment.
Speaker 8 (30:28):
I don't know about velvet for the coming season, but
it's probably not going to be great as what we're
planning on in Venison. Pretty happy with our contracts that
we've got for the year in place where looking north
of twelve bucks at the moment, coming into spring, So
that's good. I would like to like it to go
(30:49):
up a bit more, but yeah, twelve bucks is pretty decent.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
Really. Yeah, not to be sniffed at anything else you
too want to add. Before I bid you farewell and
let you carry on with your social media.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Endeavors, I'll tell you we'll beef. Talking about Venison prices,
Beef prices is showing those signs of flowing. People are
contracting one hundred kilo white faced calves out there in
the South Island for eight hundred dollars, up up from
seven to fifty last year, So beef prices for those
people to make any money, beef prices need to continue
to climb. Great for me, sailling four day old calves,
(31:22):
I tell you.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Yeah, Well it's do you think dairy beef will be
the ultimate solution for the bobby calf issue?
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Well, half of our beef comes from dairy beef anyway,
So I mean, if we put every single Bobby calf
on read it to beef, that would wipe out our
beef farmers. Well, it would replace our beef farmers. So
I'm sure there's a happy medium. And I've gone from
in the past sending six hundred Bobby calves, are sending
(31:49):
fewer than three hundred. So we're trending in the right direction.
And with prices like they are, and the hard when
the price is full and nobody wants to read them,
you do with the men.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Well there you go. Okay, we found out from that
yarn that the inn Zed Farming facebook page is up
for sale for a corporate and that you two like
White Hanson in the nineties. Yes see, boys, there we go,
duncan hum n z Ed Farming facebook page. They do
do a very good job. And Craig Hickman, dairy man,
(32:22):
you can follow him on social media as well. Right
up next it's Craig Weggy Wiggins. We're going to another
mid Canterbury bloke. They're dominating the show. He's a Nelson Today.
Stegger you on U me ah the nineties musical theme
(32:43):
for today. Here's a man who would have been in
his prime in the nineties. I reckon Craig Wiggy Wiggins,
third guest from Mid Canterbury Today. But you're a Nelson Wiggy.
The Fencing Contractors Association and your conference and they have
a fencing open day happening.
Speaker 9 (32:58):
Yeah, Jamie, get everybod.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (33:00):
We're at a reworker not far from Watchawaker and there's
probably about one hundred and fifty people looking at all
the new stuff in fencing, learning some techniques. We've got
a heap of students here going through a competition, some
of them from Geraldine and some from local schools. So
it's amazing to be here. And we've got the calf
beamily health checks as well going on on the patron
(33:21):
of Fken so it's nice to be up here.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Well good on you. You do a great job commentating
all the fencing competitions. I must say, HARKing back to
my days as a farmer, which for a long long
time ago now, Willie, one job I loved two jobs.
I love plowing and making offense or building a fence
because at the end of the day you could look
back upon your work even better if it was straight.
Speaker 9 (33:43):
Yeah, that's right. A lot of people get to put
up a fence and leave it behind, you know, fens
and good fences the last forty fifty years, and even
for some of those guys that drive down the road
and look up a hill and say I built that fence,
and if they do it with a sense of pride,
and there's so much technology and new equipment, now was
the place to come and look at it.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
Hey, you gave me a text yesterday when I was
looking for someone to anto. It's two days in a row.
I got dumped by Vanessa winning today, but I'll get
her on the show in the next few days. And
you were talking about you just wanted to pay a
weed tribute a week on to our old mate Jim Hopkins.
Hopkins because there's a connection between you and him. You
(34:22):
took over from him as the compere for the Young
Farmer Regional Finals.
Speaker 9 (34:27):
Yeah, it did, mate. It was great to take over
from Jim. It was a really hard time for Jim
and I. There was a lot of respects going for
both of us. You know, Jim had been in the
job for twenty one years and I sort of got
asked to step up and fill his shoes. And speaking
of those shoes, Jim used to wear a pair out
every regional final behind the stage, basing the boards before
(34:49):
he went on stage. But we became pretty good friends,
and I got him back a couple of times. That
helped me out with Egris sports and stuff like that.
And you know, to take over from somebody that's been
in the job for twenty one years, it was never
going to go easy. But Jim and I realized that
that's just and he was really happy that a farmer
and somebody that would carry on and look after the
(35:13):
competitors as much as we did. He was happy with that.
He just wasn't happy to hand over the reins. But
you know, that's exactly what happens as we get older.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
I guess, yeah, are there amazing thing for a guy
who was so comfortable and so natural in front of
a microphone or on a stage, he was awful behind it.
I used to say, you're a bad tempered bugger. He
would be chain smoking, as you say, he'd be marching
up and down. He was a very nervous performer. But
when the lights went on and the mic went on,
(35:42):
bang showtime.
Speaker 9 (35:44):
Yeah. He was a perfectionist, to be fair. He put
so much pressure on himself to get it right. But
you know, he didn't always get it right, but he'd
own it to oh you guys didn't like this one,
and he'd carry on to the next joke with the
next line. But yeah, he was very, very particular, and
some people sort of thought it was the work with
I just admired how much professionalism he brought to the
front of house. But as you said, the back out
(36:06):
there was plenty of time.
Speaker 8 (36:07):
Well.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
He put a lot of time into prepping for local
events and he would go to the local newspaper and
he would tie everything in beautifully. He was a master
at his craft. Very quickly. You're tied up with the
car Family Foundation. This is Craig and his dad Greg.
They do a great job. They're big operators in New Zealand.
Agg But what I like about them and what they're
(36:28):
doing for you is enabling you to give back.
Speaker 9 (36:32):
Yeah, they are you know dat health checks that we
do around the country. We did seven over seven hundred
health checks.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Last year we.
Speaker 9 (36:40):
Referred over one hundred people on They were all in
rural New Zealand events, so we referred to hundred people
onto their doctors and bits and pieces, and quite regularly
we get a message back saying, hey, you guys saved
my life. My heart was in a bad way. I
actually had some issues and if you hadn't had the
health check van there on that day and told me
that I needed to go, I probably wouldn't be. So
(37:01):
I really admire the car family for what they do
and help us out and they put it back into
their people and of course the Carfields Group have got
agencies all around the country, so giving them back is
a big thing of it.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
Good on, yep, Weggy, You enjoy the rest of your
day in Nelson at the Fencing Contractors Association and your
conference and open day on fencing. Riley Kennedy, I think
from business deck desk to wrap the country big that
we'll go to. Okay, it is coming up to five
(37:36):
away from one. Wrapping the country has some more of
your feedback. Luxing is Luxelon is digging a big hole
for himself. Unemployment high nine million, on prisoners, massaging, yes,
I agree with you. That's terrible and now he's keeping
us in the Paris agreement from Clinton didn't want a
bar of it. What do you think, Riley Kennedy, Rural
(37:57):
Broadcaster of the Year and lead rural journalists for business desks,
that I'd put two business desks in there. I think
I might have how are you good? Afs?
Speaker 2 (38:07):
And I should also add that my job title is
now extended to your desperate correspondent.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
Yeah, well it's normally someone like Rocks, but I had
him on he was my desperate correspondent last week. Hey,
on a serious note, you do a really good job.
And I would encourage people to subscribe to Business Tests.
There's always good lots of rural stories in there. And
next week and I think on Tuesday I might be
speaking to Steven Gerin from chief executive at PGG Rights
(38:35):
and it's reporting season and we would expect a lot
of these rural servicing companies, Riley, to have good results
this year. If they're not going to get a good
result this year, I'll never get one.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Yes, there's a looks freek it sort of kicks off
of it was sort of started this week. Actually the
Ravensown reported on Monday they had a good result back
paying rebates and for the first time since twenty twenty two,
so this shearholders will be very pleased to getting fifteen
dollars a ton. On Friday, we have TMG Global which
is divesting its fresh business, and then next week it
sort of rarely ramps up. We've got PGG Rights and
(39:09):
a too Milk the week AFT and a whole lot
of other companies, and then it sort of will rarely
run through until late next month when you've got frontier
in the sin lads. But if you can't make money
this year, you're probably not going to. I know PGG
Rights in the their half year had a really good result.
I think they were on track to hit close to
correct me if I'm wrong. He had nearly a billion
(39:30):
dollars in revenue. And you know, obviously people have just
got a lot more money, a lot more spending power,
and they obviously showed up in Ravingstone result. You know,
I think the revenue was up quite a bit. Can't
remember the figure off the top of the head. Their
volumes are up, people have a lot more spending power,
so and I think that'll really show the two speed
of two speed economy. I know you're talking about it
(39:50):
earlier that here in the cities things are not doing
too well as in Wellington for the last couple of
weeks and things are pretty bad there. But you go
out but below the Bombays and north of the narrow
and Gorge and things are looking pretty good.
Speaker 4 (40:05):
Well rileygh, I'm sure you did your bid to improve
the economy and Courtney Place.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
I can neither consume nor deny.
Speaker 4 (40:13):
You're happy to be the MP for Taro. Thanks for
your time. There we go. Riley Kennedy from Business Desk,
wrapping the country for today, Catch you tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
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