June 10, 2024 • 12 mins
THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Tuesday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) Well, it Is... But it Isn't/Making Their Job as Hard as Possible/Still Not Really Loving the Waitangi Tribunal/Remember Ihumātao?/Good and Bad Avocado News
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk SEDB. Follow
this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio Rewrap.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Okay, there, welcome to the Rewrap for Tuesday. All the best,
but it's from the Mike Husking Breakfast on news Doorg SEDB.
In a sillier package, I am Glen harton today. How
far away do you have to be from Wellington to
claim an accommodation allowance? Fifty four k's? Is that fair enough?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Not far enough?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
No, It's complicated, isn't it. Mike, I think is really
softening on the white tonguey group tribunal, and I think
he really quite likes them. Remember Martel, No I struggled
too as well, But Mike's got more details on that too.
And what's happening with the avocados, that's the question that's
on everybody's But before any of that, what's happening with
(01:11):
the EU and why is the far right rising rising? Rising?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
What is most instructive, if not unique, about these EU
elections is that the European Union is a collective of
course countries and their mood. They swing with the times.
But the EU vote captured twenty seven countries all at once.
It's a massive snapshot, and the snapshot of this round
as big, big change is coming as the continent moves
very distinctly to the right. A lot of the media
call it the far right, but that's the bit that
(01:39):
makes it interesting. A lot of it's driven by illegal immigration,
of course, something that is a small, isolated country at
the bottom of the world we don't really have, but
it's close. Australia is grappling with it and has done
and at fairly large political cost over many many years.
If you go back in Australia, they ride by a
boat and John Howard many elections ago resurrected his entire
career as well as his government's fortunes by stopping the votes.
(02:00):
In Europe, some a ride by a vote, but a
lot simply walking angler. Merkel invited them in several summers ago,
you may remember one million of them was beginning of
the end of her time in charge. Legal immigration strikes
fear in Britain. For rishisnak knew how to actually stop
the boats. He would have because it's nail and his
government's coffin in about three weeks time. There are other
factors of course, like the economy, but fear can be
(02:21):
easily used to stoke more fear, and so it has
been replicated over and over across the continent. But surely
at some point, when the so called far right win
and win well, they become mainstream. Lipen in France biggest
vote thirty percent, that's mainstream. Are you still far right
or are you simply popular? Maloney in Italy feared with
no shortage of far right headlines attached to a name,
(02:43):
And yet now dare we suggest popular terms like far
right are used where they disdain and yet you dismiss
increasingly large groups of people in a democracy. The left
are rarely referred to as the far left or extreme left,
yet the rules don't apply the other way. Why not?
How much of that sort of dismissal do you think
played into the rise of the popularity of those who
(03:06):
now run the place?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
When I wasn't around in the in the thirties, the
nineteen thirties, certainly wasn't living in Germany then, I'm just
wondering how much of what's going on there now feels
like what was going on there then? It's worrying, it's
worry but you're worried it's not right. It's right far
(03:27):
I but it's not right, it's not rewrap anyway back
here and sort of center right, if not center center
really compared to the rest of the world in New Zealand,
I think we really make the MP's lives so easy,
don't we.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
So this, first of all, this is Tim constantly nationally
MP O taki thirty six and a half grand for
an allowance on his own place. Prime Minister got into
trouble mainly with the media. I don't think anyone else
really cared. He owns an apartment in Wellington. He was
claiming it because he's entitled to claim. But all of
this is within the law. It's within the rules. It's
the rules set up. And we've been if you go
back to Bill English, the Bill English scenario, if your
(04:03):
memory goes back along and we've been here many many
times before, and we've seemed to I just don't get
why we're trying to make the same story over and
over again. So they write to stuff in their angsty
left leaning way, O tacky MP Tim costly owns a
one point four million dollar riverside home and why and
(04:23):
I who cares? Two rental properties in Parmeston North and
a Wellington flat, and so he's claiming for the Wellington flat.
Here's an argument is this. It works out about the
same if he stayed in the hotel. So what is
it we're whining about. Are we whining about the fact
that he's claiming the money or we're whining about the
fact that doesn't go to a hotel Because the same
(04:45):
amount of money is being spent. The safest, most sustainable
way for me to function as an MP is to
stay at Wellington where the house is sitting. Seems perfectly
sensible to me. As a junior MP, I'm required to
stay on the precinct until at least ten o'clock at night,
often there later after midnight urgency. I'm required to be
back at the Parliamentary Precinct for really meetings starting between
seven thirty and eight thirty in the morning. So going
all the way back up the Capital case and all
(05:06):
the way back down is a waste of his time,
a waste his energy, So he stays in the place
in town he's allowed to. Those are what the rules say. Meantime,
Kieren macnaughty, who's a wire rapper, I'm assuming they're not
infearing that he needs to drive all the way back
to the wire rapper and then all the way back again.
He stays at a place it happens to be his wife.
His wife bought the place before they got married. He's
not on the ball because he doesn't you know, he's
not on it. He just happens to be his wife.
(05:28):
So he's staying at a place which he's entitled to do.
So my question is, what is it you want? Do
you want these people to work for nothing? Do you
want these people to trapes home every night, come back
every morning, have no allowances, no money, no nothing, and
preferably turn up on the public area of the Parliament
so we can whip them as well. Is that what
(05:48):
you want? Shall we throw apples and free it?
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Well?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Why do they have a whip that says goodness sake?
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I mean I think most people want their jobs to
be as hard as possible. They love a challenge. I
want to feel like they're not appreciated in any way.
There's nothing good about it. It's more satisfying when you
get the job done under those circumstances, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Rewrap?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
I wonder what allowances they get on the way Tangi Tribunal.
If any, I'm sure they don't get any.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Once again we asked the question, among many questions around
the matter, who is paying for the wite Tangy Tribunal
and how much of it is what you would loosely
call value for money. There's a new urgent hearing this week.
It is to do with the new government's promise to
have non Mari government departments use English for their name.
I think the NZTA, the Ministry of Education. Now. The
argument brought forward by a taro at Ewe is this
(06:42):
does harm the policy, this does harm to terreo small irony.
So far, for many people it seems to contact this
particular program. It doesn't seem that the instruction has been
sent out by the government at all. The waters were
somewhat muddied, I thought when it was suggested that ol
Ranger Tamariki might keep their name as well as kayeg
A Aura, given they were the names most of us
knew the department by How they come up with that
(07:02):
I don't know, although I assume they meant that given
those two departments in particular have spent a lot of
time in the news nominality of the reference might well
have stuck. Whichever you think about it was sort of
the idea in the first place, really, wasn't it. Having
the vast majority of us exposed to another language, especially
an official language, may help the language live, breathe, and expand.
But what also happened is Marii terms, names and phrases
(07:23):
got tossed about with mad abandoned and muddy the water's
a comprehension. The media have broadly speaking in a fit
of wokeism and embarrassed themselves, and in part for the
damage they're already damaged reputations by embracing the activity with
an alacrity that's been humiliating. Tokenism is not language, but
tokenism is what you get. A news bulletin's a peppering
of mari with the English that leads to nothing more
(07:45):
than a trendy nod to a fad. But it's a
national crisis, apparently so much so that taxpayer money must
once again be dispersed to lawyers and full time agitators
to once again front the tribunal who will write their
usual report, which will be treated in the usual way,
which is what's the Maori word for bin.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Um steering things out there? A lot of lawyers around,
aren't they. And I know this because I've been to
a number of university graduation ceremonies, capping ceremonies a man,
and there's people doing a lot of law out there.
They've got to find something to do. Rewrap on sort
(08:27):
of semi but not really related matters. Talk about you
the last and the past? Does Hoski of sleep whereas
he just spent all his time trawling through news sites
and papers.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
What an interesting little read I had yesterday afternoon about
the Ehmota. Remember Ehemota Ehomotel was the end of the world.
It was occupation time, it was protest time. It was
just cinder adern I distinctly remember it. She remember she
went down there to talk to the people who are.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Oh, hello there, how are you. Have you met my
friend Willie?
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Well he's got the money. Well he's got thirty million
dollars for you. Would you like us to give you
thirty million dollars? And they did, of course, and they
bought the la and and you were fantastic. So what's
happened to that in the ensuing years and the answerers
I'm reading yesterday. Just let me go to the Oh nothing,
that's right. So all of that noise, all of that protest,
(09:23):
all of the housing that were so desperately desperately needed,
all of the scandal that was unfolding, the millions of
dollars are nothing. So they've set up a special group.
And the special group has been It's made up of
two Crown representatives, a representative from the king E tongue,
three representing the Ahika groups. And when asked about what
(09:46):
had been discussed, nothing to update, you would normally laugh
if it wasn't so pathetic.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
It was so annoying that he brought that up this
morning because I could never spell him mo Tao mar
Tao or pronounce it. When it was a big story
at the time, and when it stopped being a big story,
I breathed a sigh of related because because every single
time I went to type it, do you have things
like that? I'd like that with marine lapin, I can
(10:16):
spell marine, but I can never remember whether it's lupin leapin,
and whether the pin is this light pn or p
nne or you know, it's French. I was sounding so racist,
but I just keep and you think that once I've
been through all the trouble of looking about see how
to spell it, i'd remember next time. But I never do.
And I'm the same with the himato who moved out a.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Rerap.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
I just wanted to finish up here talking about avocados.
People are always interested in avocados, aren't they Like when
it comes to produce. We spend a lot more time
talking about avocados than we do. Say, I don't know leaks.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Good and bad news on the avocados.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
For you.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Bad news is the crop is not brilliant. But the
good news is it's a bitter quality. Therefore it's going
to be exported, which is good ultimately for but not
good for you when you're looking for it locally. So
twenty twenty three lot of fruit was not good enough
to exports, so it all came locally. A new season,
it looks reasonably good, just starting of course, seven million trays,
similar to last year. It will be split between domestic
(11:21):
and exports. Our quality looking really good and that's way
more of it's going over seas. Over the last decade Australia,
they've taken around eighty five percent of our exports but
the last three years that's dropped below fifty because the
Australian's growing a lot of their own. But we are
back apparently into Canada, North America. So if the returns
are good, ultimately good for the country, but you might
have to pay a little bit more down at the
greng grosser.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
See, this is the same problem I have with cheese.
I like avocado, so I don't mind it when they're
not being going for you all with the exports. I mean,
I feel bad for them, but it feel happy for
me because they get cheaper. It's the same with cheese. Yes,
I want our dairy industry to be doing well, but
the better they do, the more expensive my cheese gets.
(12:03):
It seems. I know it's all about me, but you know,
for the ten to fifteen minutes of this podcast, it
sort of is. That's finished now, so it's not all
about me again. It'll be all about me again tomorrow,
starting with Newstalks head Being. I'll see you for that
one eye. Tell your friends Newsborks the head Being. You see,
(12:25):
if we can get it as popular as the reramp,
it's the same same thing, same as this, except least
Mike asking there's still a bit of them in there,
and more of everybody else. I'll see them.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
For more from News Talks d B. Listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk SEDB. Follow
this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio Rewrap.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Okay, there, welcome to the Rewrap for Tuesday. All the best,
but it's from the Mike Husking Breakfast on news Doorg SEDB.
In a sillier package, I am Glen harton today. How
far away do you have to be from Wellington to
claim an accommodation allowance? Fifty four k's? Is that fair enough?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Not far enough?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
No, It's complicated, isn't it. Mike, I think is really
softening on the white tonguey group tribunal, and I think
he really quite likes them. Remember Martel, No I struggled
too as well, But Mike's got more details on that too.
And what's happening with the avocados, that's the question that's
on everybody's But before any of that, what's happening with
(01:11):
the EU and why is the far right rising rising? Rising?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
What is most instructive, if not unique, about these EU
elections is that the European Union is a collective of
course countries and their mood. They swing with the times.
But the EU vote captured twenty seven countries all at once.
It's a massive snapshot, and the snapshot of this round
as big, big change is coming as the continent moves
very distinctly to the right. A lot of the media
call it the far right, but that's the bit that
(01:39):
makes it interesting. A lot of it's driven by illegal immigration,
of course, something that is a small, isolated country at
the bottom of the world we don't really have, but
it's close. Australia is grappling with it and has done
and at fairly large political cost over many many years.
If you go back in Australia, they ride by a
boat and John Howard many elections ago resurrected his entire
career as well as his government's fortunes by stopping the votes.
(02:00):
In Europe, some a ride by a vote, but a
lot simply walking angler. Merkel invited them in several summers ago,
you may remember one million of them was beginning of
the end of her time in charge. Legal immigration strikes
fear in Britain. For rishisnak knew how to actually stop
the boats. He would have because it's nail and his
government's coffin in about three weeks time. There are other
factors of course, like the economy, but fear can be
(02:21):
easily used to stoke more fear, and so it has
been replicated over and over across the continent. But surely
at some point, when the so called far right win
and win well, they become mainstream. Lipen in France biggest
vote thirty percent, that's mainstream. Are you still far right
or are you simply popular? Maloney in Italy feared with
no shortage of far right headlines attached to a name,
(02:43):
And yet now dare we suggest popular terms like far
right are used where they disdain and yet you dismiss
increasingly large groups of people in a democracy. The left
are rarely referred to as the far left or extreme left,
yet the rules don't apply the other way. Why not?
How much of that sort of dismissal do you think
played into the rise of the popularity of those who
(03:06):
now run the place?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
When I wasn't around in the in the thirties, the
nineteen thirties, certainly wasn't living in Germany then, I'm just
wondering how much of what's going on there now feels
like what was going on there then? It's worrying, it's
worry but you're worried it's not right. It's right far
(03:27):
I but it's not right, it's not rewrap anyway back
here and sort of center right, if not center center
really compared to the rest of the world in New Zealand,
I think we really make the MP's lives so easy,
don't we.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
So this, first of all, this is Tim constantly nationally
MP O taki thirty six and a half grand for
an allowance on his own place. Prime Minister got into
trouble mainly with the media. I don't think anyone else
really cared. He owns an apartment in Wellington. He was
claiming it because he's entitled to claim. But all of
this is within the law. It's within the rules. It's
the rules set up. And we've been if you go
back to Bill English, the Bill English scenario, if your
(04:03):
memory goes back along and we've been here many many
times before, and we've seemed to I just don't get
why we're trying to make the same story over and
over again. So they write to stuff in their angsty
left leaning way, O tacky MP Tim costly owns a
one point four million dollar riverside home and why and
(04:23):
I who cares? Two rental properties in Parmeston North and
a Wellington flat, and so he's claiming for the Wellington flat.
Here's an argument is this. It works out about the
same if he stayed in the hotel. So what is
it we're whining about. Are we whining about the fact
that he's claiming the money or we're whining about the
fact that doesn't go to a hotel Because the same
(04:45):
amount of money is being spent. The safest, most sustainable
way for me to function as an MP is to
stay at Wellington where the house is sitting. Seems perfectly
sensible to me. As a junior MP, I'm required to
stay on the precinct until at least ten o'clock at night,
often there later after midnight urgency. I'm required to be
back at the Parliamentary Precinct for really meetings starting between
seven thirty and eight thirty in the morning. So going
all the way back up the Capital case and all
(05:06):
the way back down is a waste of his time,
a waste his energy, So he stays in the place
in town he's allowed to. Those are what the rules say. Meantime,
Kieren macnaughty, who's a wire rapper, I'm assuming they're not
infearing that he needs to drive all the way back
to the wire rapper and then all the way back again.
He stays at a place it happens to be his wife.
His wife bought the place before they got married. He's
not on the ball because he doesn't you know, he's
not on it. He just happens to be his wife.
(05:28):
So he's staying at a place which he's entitled to do.
So my question is, what is it you want? Do
you want these people to work for nothing? Do you
want these people to trapes home every night, come back
every morning, have no allowances, no money, no nothing, and
preferably turn up on the public area of the Parliament
so we can whip them as well. Is that what
(05:48):
you want? Shall we throw apples and free it?
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Well?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Why do they have a whip that says goodness sake?
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I mean I think most people want their jobs to
be as hard as possible. They love a challenge. I
want to feel like they're not appreciated in any way.
There's nothing good about it. It's more satisfying when you
get the job done under those circumstances, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Rewrap?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
I wonder what allowances they get on the way Tangi Tribunal.
If any, I'm sure they don't get any.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Once again we asked the question, among many questions around
the matter, who is paying for the wite Tangy Tribunal
and how much of it is what you would loosely
call value for money. There's a new urgent hearing this week.
It is to do with the new government's promise to
have non Mari government departments use English for their name.
I think the NZTA, the Ministry of Education. Now. The
argument brought forward by a taro at Ewe is this
(06:42):
does harm the policy, this does harm to terreo small irony.
So far, for many people it seems to contact this
particular program. It doesn't seem that the instruction has been
sent out by the government at all. The waters were
somewhat muddied, I thought when it was suggested that ol
Ranger Tamariki might keep their name as well as kayeg
A Aura, given they were the names most of us
knew the department by How they come up with that
(07:02):
I don't know, although I assume they meant that given
those two departments in particular have spent a lot of
time in the news nominality of the reference might well
have stuck. Whichever you think about it was sort of
the idea in the first place, really, wasn't it. Having
the vast majority of us exposed to another language, especially
an official language, may help the language live, breathe, and expand.
But what also happened is Marii terms, names and phrases
(07:23):
got tossed about with mad abandoned and muddy the water's
a comprehension. The media have broadly speaking in a fit
of wokeism and embarrassed themselves, and in part for the
damage they're already damaged reputations by embracing the activity with
an alacrity that's been humiliating. Tokenism is not language, but
tokenism is what you get. A news bulletin's a peppering
of mari with the English that leads to nothing more
(07:45):
than a trendy nod to a fad. But it's a
national crisis, apparently so much so that taxpayer money must
once again be dispersed to lawyers and full time agitators
to once again front the tribunal who will write their
usual report, which will be treated in the usual way,
which is what's the Maori word for bin.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Um steering things out there? A lot of lawyers around,
aren't they. And I know this because I've been to
a number of university graduation ceremonies, capping ceremonies a man,
and there's people doing a lot of law out there.
They've got to find something to do. Rewrap on sort
(08:27):
of semi but not really related matters. Talk about you
the last and the past? Does Hoski of sleep whereas
he just spent all his time trawling through news sites
and papers.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
What an interesting little read I had yesterday afternoon about
the Ehmota. Remember Ehemota Ehomotel was the end of the world.
It was occupation time, it was protest time. It was
just cinder adern I distinctly remember it. She remember she
went down there to talk to the people who are.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Oh, hello there, how are you. Have you met my
friend Willie?
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Well he's got the money. Well he's got thirty million
dollars for you. Would you like us to give you
thirty million dollars? And they did, of course, and they
bought the la and and you were fantastic. So what's
happened to that in the ensuing years and the answerers
I'm reading yesterday. Just let me go to the Oh nothing,
that's right. So all of that noise, all of that protest,
(09:23):
all of the housing that were so desperately desperately needed,
all of the scandal that was unfolding, the millions of
dollars are nothing. So they've set up a special group.
And the special group has been It's made up of
two Crown representatives, a representative from the king E tongue,
three representing the Ahika groups. And when asked about what
(09:46):
had been discussed, nothing to update, you would normally laugh
if it wasn't so pathetic.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
It was so annoying that he brought that up this
morning because I could never spell him mo Tao mar
Tao or pronounce it. When it was a big story
at the time, and when it stopped being a big story,
I breathed a sigh of related because because every single
time I went to type it, do you have things
like that? I'd like that with marine lapin, I can
(10:16):
spell marine, but I can never remember whether it's lupin leapin,
and whether the pin is this light pn or p
nne or you know, it's French. I was sounding so racist,
but I just keep and you think that once I've
been through all the trouble of looking about see how
to spell it, i'd remember next time. But I never do.
And I'm the same with the himato who moved out a.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Rerap.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
I just wanted to finish up here talking about avocados.
People are always interested in avocados, aren't they Like when
it comes to produce. We spend a lot more time
talking about avocados than we do. Say, I don't know leaks.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Good and bad news on the avocados.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
For you.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Bad news is the crop is not brilliant. But the
good news is it's a bitter quality. Therefore it's going
to be exported, which is good ultimately for but not
good for you when you're looking for it locally. So
twenty twenty three lot of fruit was not good enough
to exports, so it all came locally. A new season,
it looks reasonably good, just starting of course, seven million trays,
similar to last year. It will be split between domestic
(11:21):
and exports. Our quality looking really good and that's way
more of it's going over seas. Over the last decade Australia,
they've taken around eighty five percent of our exports but
the last three years that's dropped below fifty because the
Australian's growing a lot of their own. But we are
back apparently into Canada, North America. So if the returns
are good, ultimately good for the country, but you might
have to pay a little bit more down at the
greng grosser.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
See, this is the same problem I have with cheese.
I like avocado, so I don't mind it when they're
not being going for you all with the exports. I mean,
I feel bad for them, but it feel happy for
me because they get cheaper. It's the same with cheese. Yes,
I want our dairy industry to be doing well, but
the better they do, the more expensive my cheese gets.
(12:03):
It seems. I know it's all about me, but you know,
for the ten to fifteen minutes of this podcast, it
sort of is. That's finished now, so it's not all
about me again. It'll be all about me again tomorrow,
starting with Newstalks head Being. I'll see you for that
one eye. Tell your friends Newsborks the head Being. You see,
(12:25):
if we can get it as popular as the reramp,
it's the same same thing, same as this, except least
Mike asking there's still a bit of them in there,
and more of everybody else. I'll see them.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
For more from News Talks d B. Listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
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Ding dong! Join your culture consultants, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, on an unforgettable journey into the beating heart of CULTURE. Alongside sizzling special guests, they GET INTO the hottest pop-culture moments of the day and the formative cultural experiences that turned them into Culturistas. Produced by the Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio.