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June 30, 2024 13 mins

THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Monday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) What a Way to Decide a Winner/The Strategy Is Simple/Calling Out the Losers

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
Rerapkoy there and welcome to the Rewrap for Monday. All
the best buts from the Myke Husking Breakfast on Newstalk
S'DB and a Sillier package. I am Glenn Hart, Welcome
back to me and today the Warriors won over the weekend,
so of course this is the year losers. On the

(00:47):
other hand, we're going to find out where the biggest
loser suburbs are in the country in terms of house prices. Anyway,
for any of that, did you watch the presidential debate
and were you as appalled by it as Myke Hosking was?

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Is it true? I think it is. It's true to
say that Biden got it to give up somewhat. The
debate unfolded, but it started out so badly that even
in his finest moments it was ordinary to say the least.
The unmistakable truth is what you saw. It's as good
as it gets. If America vote for him, he doesn't improve.
Think about it. He doesn't improve over the next four

(01:23):
and a half years. He doesn't get younger. He doesn't
get Sharper. I've not until this point, and this was
the interesting thing about the Big debate. I have not
until this point actually believed the narrative that you can
take a sitting president and replace a mid race. But
now I'm not so sure. If he quits or gets pulled,
they will lose. It would be a disaster, But is
it a bigger disaster than letting him carry on and lose. Anyway,

(01:45):
no one in their right mind can vote for him
in the state he is in. I can also mount
an argument that no one in their right mind can
vote for Trump either. He lied his way through most
of the debate. Everything was perfect until he left. Apparently,
now it's the worst it's ever been. Water, the air war,
the border, the economy. It was perfect, like no one

(02:05):
had ever seen it. Now it's the worst we've ever
seen in the history the world. That's all he said.
Pick a topic, same answer. They were both shocking. It
is an indictment on the American political system that those
two are what you get to choose from the debate.
Was also the loser.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
I thought.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
Questions weren't answered, it was locked down by a stopwatch.
Questions were ignored matters went followed up. Nothing flowed, It
lacked energy. I mean, yes, if they'd let it free wheel,
that would have imploded. I guess. So I don't know
what to do about the next one, if there's a
next one. But what you were left with is an
empty feeling. I thought that the most powerful nation on
Earth is run by or about to be run by,

(02:40):
some exceedingly limited people. The low point, surely was the
exchange over golf handicaps. Biden was as sex and till
he decided he was an eight, and Trump wins tournaments
and not even senior ones. Are you serious? Trump is
dangerous because he's mad. Biden is dangerous because he's in
the most obvious cognitive decline. A crook versus a geriatric

(03:02):
What a choice? And that choice, for ninety minutes was
on display in the most depressing show of credentials I
think I have ever seen.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
I mean, I guess we've only really been paying attention
to this sort of stuff since, you know, the twenty
four hour news cycle has existed. I'm sure there've been
presidential debates and era has gone by that were even
worse than this. We just don't know about them.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
Re Wrap because what.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
We do know is what we know, and what we
know seems to be a bit different to what both
mister presidents on display thought they knew.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Fact checking so a lot of emphasis on the number
of lives that Trump told, and there were many of them,
which which is why I came to the conclusion there
were no winners out of this. The whole thing was
just a cataclysmic cluster. Anyway, the fact checkers came out
after debate. So how many times did Biden lay led?
Nine times?

Speaker 5 (03:56):
He said he's the only president in a while who
didn't have any troops dying anywhere in the world.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
Troops have, of course, died on his watch.

Speaker 5 (04:02):
He said he's put in a fifteen dollars per shite
cap on insulin Madicare.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
It's a thirty five dollars a month cap.

Speaker 5 (04:07):
He said, it's two hundred dollars cap on overall drug
spending and Medicare.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
It's two thousand dollars a year.

Speaker 5 (04:13):
He said the border now has fewer crossings than when
Trump was in office. That's generally not true, he said,
or at least strongly suggested. Unemployment was at fifteen percent
when he took office. It was actually six point four.
He said Trump's want Trump wants to get rid of
Social Security. Trump doesn't. He said, billionaires pay eight point
two percent in taxes. It's much higher. He said Trump
told Americans to inject bleach amid COVID. We know Trump
made foolish comments about scientists studying disinfectant injection, but didn't

(04:37):
frame it as advice to people. And Biden said the
Border Patrol endorsed him. No, it's union supported the border
bill he'd supported, never endorsed him himself. In fairness, the
President did appear to clarify that one.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Were they lies some of the around numbers. If you
listened to Joe Biden, he didn't have a clue about
numbers millionaires, billionaires, trillionaires. He was all over the place.
He's completely confused. But nevertheless he got a lot of
stuff wrong. Nine times he made mistakes, which is not
as many though as Trump, who made thirty deep breath.

Speaker 5 (05:04):
He said some Democratic states allow people to execute babies
after birth, an agregious lie that is illegal in every state.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
He said.

Speaker 5 (05:11):
Everybody, even Democrats who wanted Roe v. Wade overturn Roe
was supported by two thirds of Americans, even more Democrats.
He said every legal scholar wanted Row overturn abortion to return.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
To the States.

Speaker 5 (05:21):
Legal scholars have told me directly this is not true.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
He said.

Speaker 5 (05:24):
The US currently has the biggest budget deficit ever. Know
that happened under Trump in twenty twenty. He said the
US currently has a record trade deficit with China. That
also happened under Trump in twenty eighteen. He said Biden
personally gets a lot of money from China. Zero evidence
of this. He said there were no terror attacks during
his presidency. In fact, there were multiple attacks. He said
Iran didn't find Hamas has Belah other terror groups under

(05:45):
his presidency. Iran, in fact, did. He said Biden wants
to quadruple people's taxes. That is pure fiction. He said
the US has provided way more aid to Ukraine than Europad.
It's actually the opposite, He said, has provided about two
hundred billion in Ukraine aid.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
It's closer to one hundred and ten billion.

Speaker 5 (06:00):
He said, eighteen or nineteen million people across the border
under Biden. That is millions too high. He said many
of these migrants are from prisons or mental institutions. Own
campaign cannot corroborate this. He said, Biden has only created
jobs for illegal immigrants.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
Total nonsense.

Speaker 5 (06:14):
He said Nancy Pelosi turned down his offer of ten
thousand National Guard troops on January sixth. There's no evidence
she even got such an offer. It was the President,
not Pelosi, who had the power to deploy the DC Guard,
he said. Pelosi now acknowledges she turned down the troops. No,
her office tells me this claim is still a lie.
He said he deployed the National Guard to Minneapolis in
twenty twenty. Actually that was the Democratic governor. He spoke of,

(06:35):
quote ridiculous fraud in the twenty twenty election. Zero evidence
of any widespread fraud. He said NATO was going out
of business before he took office. Completely clearly absurd. He
said the US was paying one hundred percent of NATO
before he came along. The US made up about seventy
one percent of NATO defense spending, not one hundred, he said.
He not Biden is the one who lowered insulin prices
in Medicare. He did it for some seniors, but Biden

(06:55):
did it for far more.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
He said. Biden indicted him again.

Speaker 5 (06:58):
No evidence Biden has had a personal role in any
of these four prosecutions. He said Europe takes no US cars.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
Just not true.

Speaker 5 (07:05):
He spoke of food prices quadrupling under Biden's exaggeration, though
they are up. He said Biden made up the idea.
He called dead service members suckers and losers.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
No.

Speaker 5 (07:13):
The Atlantic magazine reported that, and then former Trump Chief
of Staff John Kelly corroborated it. He said Biden called
black people quote super predators for ten years. Biden never
once deployed that phrase, let alone for ten years, though
he did at least one speak of quote predators without
specifying as about black people. He said his Trump tax
cut was the largest in US history. Not true, though
in fairness, Biden also said this. Trump said China and

(07:35):
others stopped buying from Iran under him. China never stopped.
He revived his pet lie. I don't know how many
times I've done it that he signed the Veteran's Choice
Program into law. Barack Obama did that in twenty fourteen.
Trump signed an expanded version in twenty eighteen, and finally,
Trump said Biden got rid of that veterans program.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
Biden has not done that.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
But apart from that, that will bang on.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
So seeingans Daniel Dale there with the I thought, fealy,
fear and impatible fat kicking way to decide of debate
who lied the least? Are you going to decide to
vote for? Of course? With the Q just screeds of

(08:19):
techs into our show following that claiming that those facts
were in facts. The cool aid is running strong in
the US at the moment. The rewrap right, so you
know what happens the Monday morning after a Warriors when
it becomes their year again?

Speaker 4 (08:38):
Just like that, here's a question for you.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
Is Sean Johnson the Daniel Ricardo of League Tomirie Martin Stepson?
And each time he does stuff happens? What an excellent
game on Saturday night? I probably always going to happen,
I suppose, though I still can't explain the Titans and
that score. But I've lost count over the years to
how many times we've found ourselves lost for logic and
explanation when it comes to the Warriors. The Broncos didn't
play badly, but they had no time, looked like they

(09:01):
were going to win. Close the gap, yes they did,
but win no. And if you want to be a
little bit blunt about the final score, probably flattered the
Warriors a little bit. We were better, but perhaps not
that many points better. Maybe the easiest thing to do
is to suggest normal services resumed. How about we do
that so when we focus, have it together, get off
to a decent start. We look the goods I reckon,

(09:23):
we look like a side that can compete and most
likely beat any of the teams in the competition. It'll
be a very good test this week with the Bulldogs
to put that theory on the line. We're at a
point in the season where we need to get back
to stitching together a group of wins. There are plenty
of games left, but not so many wee can coast.
But back to Johnson, you can't deny Martin as good
and he makes things happen. He is bold at the line,

(09:44):
he is fast, and at the very least, when Johnson
isn't there, we lose nothing. But there's a very fine
line in this discussion because too much of it's driven
by the anti Johnson vibe that doesn't take a lot
of fact and history into account. But if we needed
to make a statement post the Titans, we did, and
if we needed to see that collapse as a one off,
we probably hopefully got that as well. When it works,

(10:05):
we're excellent. It's just the bit where it goes off
the rails needs an explanation and some sort of fixed
But wins are wins, and as long as they keep coming,
no reason to believe this isn't out.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
So yeah, this has played out pretty much. I think
as I predicted before I went away on holiday for
a couple of weeks. As long as they keep playing
teams above them on the table, they'll keep winning. But
woe betide the Warriors team that has to come up
against a team below them, I e. The Titans. So

(10:43):
and that's exactly what happened. I certainly wasn't expreating them
to lose by as much as they did, but yes,
there again, I also wasn't expecting them to be the Broncos.
So the the rerat now from willing to losing, we've
got We decided to really spotlight which suburbs have lost
the most. Who are the biggest losers in the country.

(11:08):
And I want to make this quite clear. This is
in terms of property prices and nothing else.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
Right, let's come to the loser of subjects. This is
one roof this morning, just to perk you up for
a Monday. The biggest losers suburb wise around the country.
Who's lost the most over the last three months, Who's
loss of the Let me have a look Kelvin Heights.
Come on in Kelvin Heights and Queenstown. Beautiful part of
the world, but you're not worth what it was. You
down one hundred and twenty two thousand dollars in the
value of your property over the last three months. Pirata

(11:33):
one O two one thousand. Kelbourn very nice and Kelburn
just not as valuable as you used to be. Down
ninety four thousand dollars and three months. That's thirty thousand
dollars a month. That's one thousand dollars a day. Do
it that way, you are losing one thousand dollars a day. Kelburn.
Mount Albert eighty nine. You're almost as bad as Kelburn.
You say, what is that they say about Mount Albert.
It's almost as bad as Calvin Humawana down eighty three

(11:58):
thousand dollars in the past three months. Melon's Bay. My
wife grew up in Melon's Bay, went to Mellon's Bay.
Primary luck.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
He said, in that house that's so exclusive that I've
done even think I've ever even never heard.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
Of Melon's Bay. Oh beautiful out by howickyst Auckland variant,
Well it was nice, not nice anymore.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
I'm glad I've give.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
People are flooding out of the place. Down eighty thousand
dollars and three months Omaha. Oh oh the elite of
all well, none of them will be in Omaha at
the moment. They're all in Europe for August, of course,
because people who are can have boord a house in Omaha.
Average value two point seven million dollars.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Oh, I hope so Joe and Key's not listening.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
He's already sold up and moved on out. My friend
moved on out ages ago. He saw this coming and
he ran for the hills Totra Park. Sorry, down seventy
five thousand dollars. It's twenty five thousand dollars a month.
That's what eight hundred and fifty eight hundred and sixty
dollars a day. How was your day? Well, I lost
eight hundred and sixty dollars on the value of the
house west Mere, down seventy four thousand dollars. An only
Hunger is down seventy three thousand dollars. Biggest losers, according

(12:57):
to one roof, not me, it was one.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
So yeah, I think we really made a lot of
people's days there. Not those people in those suburbs, obviously,
but I know if you're like me, you were listening
hoping that your suburb wasn't going to come up and
mine didn't. Silverdale or the Hibiscus Coast where it's beautiful
one day and perfect the next. How could the prices
ever go down the air? Should I ever sell my

(13:23):
house and then buy another one, perhaps in the time
between and I sell it and I want to buy
another one, the price could go down just at that point.
But otherwise it's all happy, you ap up for us.
I am gle in heart And that was the rewrap,
and we'll do it again tomorrow. Even you loser suburbs
are welcome.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
I'll see you then.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
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