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THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Tuesday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) Well... Maybe Not THAT Harsh/What Happened to the "Kick-Ass Fast-Tracking?"/No Shelter From Online Storms/Watching the News Again

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
Rewrap There, Welcome to the Rewrap for Tuesday. All the
best bits from the mic casting breakfast on news doorg
zed be in a sillier package. I am glean heart
And yes, is Daniel differinsonain today? And he wanted to
explain why he was a bit flummoxed by Simeon Brown
and the toll roads yesterday, whether or not Susie Wild's

(00:48):
entitled to a bit of compensation, and how three News
is traveling since a hut down and opened up again.
But before any of that, the Tanner investigation came out yesterday,
and yeah, what do we make of all that?

Speaker 3 (01:06):
All this talk about Darling Tanna? Has she phoned us
up said I'm out of here, I've had enough, I'm
gone goodbye. No, she continues to hang around, stinking up
the place like a festering fish head at a hangey
because the Green Party will not invoke the whucker jumping
rules because I never believed in them. The bastard who
please resign, which fits their ethos of collectivity. Wouldn't be

(01:28):
nice if Darlene Tanner had a sense of collectivity and
realize that collectivity says, get out. We still don't know
what she's done at her husband's bike firm. Colly wouldn't
tell us. Greens think it's bad. I guess Darlene released
a statement yesterday she disagreed with everything. Now, look, it's
not all this alleged misbehavior that's damaging for the Greens.

(01:50):
It's the way they're doing it. It's the turn of
it all, it's the processes. Back in March, Trishessaid and
Matt Robson were on the panel with a Heather and
they wandered the reputational risk the Greens could get when
it first blew up if they did not act urgently.
They did not act urgently. Coloe swall Breck the yes
today said if Tana had been forthright, then the investigation

(02:11):
would never have been needed. But that's just not sensical
because as far as Darlene reckons, she's done nothing wrong,
So she wasn't going to say that. Also, why chloy
did you say forthright yesterday? But you're quite prepared to
say lie today? Just call it what it is. She
lied to you. That's your opinion. She lied to you,
just say it. The investigation is far too long, part
paidful by the taxpayer. Then the Greens took over. Then

(02:31):
of course you've got Darlene's salary paiful by the taxpayer.
You've got Darlene's continued salary paid for by the taxpayer.
So us you me, we've been paying for most of this,
so we deserve to know what it's cost. This is
a disrespect of public money from the MP and her
former party by not telling us. The announcements coincided with

(02:54):
Mariam and Davidson's absence due to medical reasons. Now that's
probably just a coincidence, but remember Madame and Davidson was
the one who chose Darlene Tana to be nominated as
a Green MP. Madame and Davidson back Tana to can
test Davidson's former electorate. She got three thousand votes. Madame
have vacated that place for a list place. Madame and

(03:16):
Davidson and team decided that Darlene was worth a high
list ranking of thirteen. Bingo, She's an MP representing nobody
but her party and its leader and the three thousand
people who've voted for it. In Tommacky Macoro. She is
representing a party and a leader she has treated with contempt.
So all of this reflects on the Greens and Madame

(03:36):
and Davidson's ability or should I say inability to pick
good talent. And then there's our bizarre electoral law in
Nabarynthine systems, which means we have to we have to
have Darlene contact the speaker herself to fire herself. She
ain't doing that. No Turkey votes for Christmas and is
particularly galling when it's List MPs who are only there

(03:57):
at the behest of a party. Really, when a List
MP resigns from a party, they should immediately be marched
from the chamber because she has lost a mandate the.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
Doctor Evil style. Their chair should tilt backwards and they
just fall down into a fiery pit or get thrown
into a shark tank of sharks and electric eels and
sharks and lasers coming out of their eyes. I've seen
one too many Change Bond movies. Maybe the rewrap. Now

(04:30):
the tolls. Why is it so hard to make a
toll road? This as fast track government hasn't quite as
kick ass and fast tracking on this one. Are they
or are they.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
So it's obvious that I was frustrated by Simon Brown's
interview yesterday morning on the seven Roads of National Significance
that the government is planning. I asked them right from
the get go if they were going to be toll roads. Now,
why did I do that. It's not because I'm against
toll roads, but it's because I knew that's what national
favored and that needed to be on the record. I

(05:05):
also knew they were going to build the roads, so
the building of the loads was not news. The news
would be how and when and the how is it
going to be a toll road? So that was the
first question. What I got back was procedural waffle from Simeon.
The Minister told me that the Minister has to ask

(05:25):
the NZTA to investigate the roads, and then the NZTA
reports back to the very same minister and then that
minister signs it all off or not on the method.
But since the Minister has been on the side of
tolls and in fact campaigned on tolls and PPPs forever,
that seems to be a given. So why couldn't the

(05:46):
Minister just come out and say it's going to be
a toll road? This whole process of bringing in the
NCTA seems to be a massive waste of time, and
the National Coalition has sworn to eliminate massive wastes of time.
But because Simeon can't or wouldn't confirm that they're going
to be a toll road for some reason known only

(06:07):
to himself, even though we we all know they will,
he couldn't then comment on the back of an envelope
calculation as to how much are the tolls going to
be for you and I. It's important for you and I.
This is still a government and posed cost on living,
just like taxes, it's just user pays. We need to
know what it's going to cost us to write on
these lovely new roads that we want soon. And with

(06:28):
all this sort of committee meeting and bring in the
NZTA and all this sort of carry on, it seems
and in fact I can tell you it won't be
rye a new road appearing within three years. There will
be no new road within three years because we still
have to go through procurement. Now, I would have thought
politically there would have been a priority to get the
first SOD turned before the next election. But throughout the

(06:52):
interview yesterday he kept on going about, going on about
getting things done, and yet he kept on talking about
delays and getting it done. So that's why I was frustrated.
This is a fast track development development, if ever there
was one. It felt like an announcement of an announcement.
It's been six months of government. This is one of

(07:12):
the core policies. Tell us they're toll roads. We should
already be in procurement chop shop.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
There does seem to be. And you know, none of
us are experts and building roads, obviously, except for people's's
job it is to build roads. But from the outside
it certainly does seem like there's an element of reinventing
the wheel every time when we have cool, shiny, fast,
workable toll roads and other roads that aren't told But

(07:43):
we surely there's a template there isn't there. How hard
is it to just go, yes, I want one like
that and do it again and get that. There are
certain geological concerns, but that only seems to be a
small part of the process. It's all this, you know,
consultation backwards and forwards and reports and discussions and oh

(08:04):
rerap now remember COVID. You don't know me either. However,
I believe there was somebody called Susie Wiles who was
telling us what we should and shouldn't do, and sometimes
she didn't did those things, did those things and didn't
do those things herself. But regardless of that, she copped
a lot of abuse and it made her life very

(08:26):
hard and somebody has to pay, apparently Susie Wiles.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
I know some people would have woken up this morning
and went what Susie Wiles gets twenty k from the university.
She has to receive twenty thousand dollars from the University
of Auckland after the employment court found the university did
not do enough to keep her safe at work. The
court said that was not intentional, but it happened, and
they said the university did not reach her academic freedom,

(08:54):
but they should have kept her safer because of the
torrent or what they call it the tsunami of abuse
that she was receiving under threats. Now, of course Susie
took it upon herself to enter the fray around the
COVID response. It was not at the universities urging. So look,
she is still responsible for putting herself in that situation.
Maybe she didn't think that situation would happen, but it did.

(09:18):
It was Susie's argument that the university had a duty
to protect her academic freedom. This is an argument she lost.
She says she was commenting on stuff that she was
supposedly academically trained to do. But I remember at the
time a lot of people were wondering why a microbiologist
was so embroildered a medical debate, and her qualifications were
continually questioned. Susie was continually questioned. People didn't even like

(09:39):
her hair. So this messy, bruising affair is over Susie's
treatment by opponents of vaccines and mandates, and the COVID
response was truly appalling. The names and the violence and
the threatened violence truly appalling. But when people weighed into

(10:00):
the muck of public debate, it's a big call to
expect our employer to wide in with them and run protection.
If su So you have been a baker at a bakery,
would the bakery have then waded in to protect her
after she went so public. But the whole thing about
the story for me is it's an echo of a
very unfortunate time in this country's history, and we can

(10:23):
expect more repercussions and more public disquiet as the Royal
Commission into our COVID response approaches, and so you have
been warned.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
It is interesting where yes, you're supposed to it draw
the line. I mean, I've said and done things in
the course of my radio career, which is from time
to time, copped a bit of public animosity that a
flack and I certainly didn't expect the organization I worked
for to shield me from that in any way. You know,
you make your bed, you sleep in it, right. I

(10:54):
was so sure when he said if she'd been a Baker,
who's going to say a Michael Baker there, But that
didn't happen unfortunately.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Oh well, rewrap.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Right, Let's finish up watching three News. I mean, I
don't know, actually time is it on at six o'clock?
I think it's on, but I guess you can. Can
you watch it on demand? Yeah? You can cerainly listen
to this on demand, So maybe if it's not six o'clock,
start playing it just before six o'clock and then it'll
match up perfectly.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
I'm going to talk about TV because I've not watched
as much news on television as I have over the
past week on TV three in particular, and this is
because news Hub shuffled off our screens on Friday and
a flood of tears and a fairly brutal end of broadcast.
I'm like, I don't know if you've seen some of
the TV and Z Fairwells, you know where someone goes
and they stand up and then they walk off, and

(11:43):
then they walk through the corridor and everyone said they're going, oh,
clapping and all that sort of thing, and the cameras
followed them out. Not a news Hub. They said good night,
and then the guys who do the mixing just slammed
on Nigo Masters bam.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
You know, they had to pick that stuff up and
get it on trade me presumably.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
And the way Lego Masters came in so hard on
the news without all the tawdry and mortal and sort
of stuff was a sign of the channel's new priorities.
So hello, there we go. Anyway, then I sat down
on Saturday and watched the Warriors in the All Backs
indym between I had another crack at listening to Stuff's
first try at broadcast news, and many others did because
the ratings were up huge. They were up eighty percent

(12:27):
because everyone wanted to say, what's going to happen next?
Is this going to be any good? Is it going
to be a work fest as some people say about
stuff Is it going to be a stuff up, you know,
because they run papers. Whatever. Anyway, I looked at it
and it was news. It was fine. Nine of Tupas
was a good reader. She screened through the news. The
set was a desk in an office. Instead of the big,

(12:49):
huge TV screens that broadcasters have thought were necessary on
news sets for the past twenty years, there was an
artfully placed sixty five inch telly. The whole thing was
over in half an hour, and I was satisfied the
money was spent on the news, not the sizzle. I
didn't need two readers. I didn't need all the bells
and whistles. I didn't need a whole hour of news,
that's for sure. I mean, we're New Zealand. There's five
and a half million here. So then I watched last

(13:12):
night and maybe this might be the end of my
three news addiction. A big screen was back. Hey, you
don't need the big screen. Sam Hayes was back. She
was standing in front of it. We got to see
the big stories of the day. It was back to
being an hour. I did not stay with it. There
are a couple of stories I've run in the past

(13:32):
three days which have been a bit strange. One was
on Chantelle Baker being the victim of a road rage incident,
which was lacking a balancing point of view. It was
all provided by Chantell. It seemed a little questionable. It's
not a story I think would have made it onto
news Hub. There was another story last night about Black
Power educating its men and hanging onto their patches, and
that seemed like a newspaper feature edited down to fit

(13:54):
a daily news bulletin. So it's different. But what I
came to realize is that I already know the news.
The radio and the Internet tell me the stories during
the day. Zipp b tells me the stories. What Telly
gives me at the end of the day is some
pictures of the stories I wanted to see lu Lucian Win,

(14:17):
I saw them on the TV news. That's what Telly
is about, Terrestrial Telly. The brutal reality of the news
Hub collapse is not some story of Go Go broke.
It was a story of a Ferrari News show and
Ferrari salaries when you can't afford them, because, by the way,
retail times right now are tough, And how does Telly

(14:37):
and radio make the news survival within budgets is exactly
what stuff gave us over the course of the weekend.
Not so sure about last night.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yeah, I think we're done, aren't we. We're more interested
in having dinner and then sitting down to the watch
trying on Apple TV Plus, aren't we. That's more fun
than watching what's going on in the world. And also,
please stop trying to tell us what the weather's going
to do when you don't know. That's that's if there

(15:11):
was a new news bulletin that promised to never ever
try and forecast the weather, I might watch it probably won't,
but might. I'm Glen had no weather forecasts, And in
this it's just stupid comments like that last one. If
you like more of that, come back tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
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