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August 26, 2024 14 mins

THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Tuesday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) Not Everybody Is a Negotiator/Fast Tracking Is Now a Meme/Why I'm Over F1/Bintalk ZB

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
Rewrap. Okay there, welcome to the Rewrap for Tuesday.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
All the best, but it's from the Mic Hosking breakfast
on News Talks d BE and a Sillier package. I
am Glenn Hart and today, Yes, the fast tracking U tune.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
No matter how.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
They they've spun it over the last few days, it
stakes we don't like it. If one yes yet again
at the hospital, try and figure out what's going on
and whether Lean Wilson is going to be racing and win.
But before any oh, and also a bit of bin
Talks ed B at the end of the podcast as well,

(01:01):
but you can't wait for that. But before any of that. Yes,
the Uber employment conditions case. Apparently it's the end of
the world as we know it.

Speaker 4 (01:08):
When New Zealand UBA drivers have won their cases. You
will aware on this appeals court. The appeals court agrees
with the Employment Court, which is where it started, that
Uber drivers should be employees not contractors. Now, other courts
in other countries have broadly come down on the same lines.
But as I told you last week, not in California.
In California, are the court their highest court there agreed
with the people, and the people had voted in a

(01:28):
proper proposition that drivers should be contractors because that's what
drivers signed up to. So you can ask the question,
I suppose, is democracy right as it in California? Or
is the court right asn't here? Now? The court here
said the critical point is we think that while the
driver is logged into the driver app, that driver has
no opportunity to establish any business goodwill of their own. Now,

(01:49):
I guess that's true, I guess, but doesn't make any
sense to me. In a pure gig model, you get
to choose right you work, you know work. It's about
flexibility the moment you're an employee, Yes, you get leave,
but you also lose some control. Despite what the court
and the four drivers think, some people actually like flexibility
and freedom. The court said, couldn't bargain with Uber, and

(02:11):
that is of course correct, But that's the whole point
of a gig deal. The gig deal is predicated on
the idea that if the deal is so bad, no
one's going to work for them. And the counter to
the no bargain and all the other lack of overarching
rules and regulations. Is it simple to take it or
leave it. That's what it is. It's a take it
or leave it proposition. If you find it too egregious,

(02:31):
don't take it. If you want a union and industrial
action and pay agreements and time and liew and stop
work meetings, be a teacher or a nurse. The tricky part, now,
apart from the fact Uber will take it to the
Supreme Court, which they should, is that the government are
reviewing this workplace relations as we mentioned with Brooker Marma ago,
and given it's driven by Act I suspect it will
be looking to free things up a bit. And this

(02:51):
court case and its decision may well be a victim
of what eventually gets past is law. No we don't
I get it. No, we don't want seven year olds
going down minds or up chimneys. Hence we need protections.
But it's not Victorian England. It's New Zealand twenty twenty four.
And if you choose to be your own person, all
power to you in the courts can stay out of
your life.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Now I tend to agree, but then there's this nagging
little voice in the back of my head or brain.
I don't know exactly where it's coming from. I should
get there looked at. But it keeps just sort of
saying very very quietly that what about the people who
aren't like you and Mike, who don't feel like they
have the power to speak for themselves and speak up
for themselves and negotiate good conditions and things like that,

(03:33):
What about those people? It's a rewrap and in people
like Mike and me say, shut up, stupid little voice.

Speaker 4 (03:40):
Just we're on workplace law. Very interesting decision in the
US judges struck down the Biden administration ban on work
in non compete agreement. So this is a federal judge
in Texas, so he's barred the Federal Trade Commission, the
FTC and the rule they wanted to take effect would
band employee ers from requiring their workers to sign non competes.

(04:01):
In other words, noncompete means you can't leave it across
the road to the competitor. It was scheduled to go
into a fixed Septemberfore it's now effectively blocked. This is
Aida Brown, US District judge in Dallas. FTC does not
have the authority to ban practices. It deems unfair methods
of competition by adopting broad rules, and so the Court

(04:22):
concludes that the FTC lacks statutory authority to promulgate the
noncompete rule, and that the rule is arbitrary and capricious.
Thus the FTC is promulgation of the rule is an
unlawful agency action. The rule is hereby set aside and
shall not be enforced or otherwise take effect on September four,
twenty twenty four or thereafter. So the more liberal your government,

(04:43):
the more they want to interfere in your life, and
the less choice they want to allow you. And that's
why the unions love them, of course, because Heaven forbid,
you should make up your own mind as to how
you're employed and what the rules of engagement are. We
need courts to do that, and we need unions to
look after you.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
Apparently, I think we want to go around sitting up
too much employment law, like the way they do in
the US where weirdly, what are the hot button topics
of the U election campaign. It seems to be the
no tax on tips. So they've got themselves into a
situation where people's very livelihoods are based on people giving

(05:19):
them money just to top up their minimum wage jobs,
and then they are trying to make sure that they
get the most out of that money by not taxing.
This is how is that a situation like if America

(05:40):
was ever capable of standing back and having.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
A good hard look at itself.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Boy boy, wrap find you back here where stuff keeps happening.
Everything's going to be fast tracked. It's going to be
a kick ass solution until it isn't.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
Here is the futility of what the government did over
fast tracking. The Environmental Defense Society chair still thinks projects
that harm the environment will get the go ahead. His
name is Gary Taylor. Gary Taylor has been around forever.
He loves the environment. He has defended a campaigned against
the destruction before Chloe Swarbrick was even born. There is
nothing you can do that involves cutting a tree, slashing

(06:13):
a bush, or squashing a snail that will appease Gary
Taylor if it comes to infrastructure and in that is
the problem with the backdown. This government either wants to
get on with us or it doesn't. Ideas will not
get them re elected. My model has always been very simple.
You get your first term to blame the last lot,
implement your ideas as you go along, so you end
your first term arguing changes underway and the fruits, if
not already to be seen, are not far off. Talking

(06:37):
about rama reform gets you nowhere. A new road does,
a new bridge? Does that? The cutting of a ribbon
and a new hospital most definitely does. My suspicion, as
we said yesterday, is the change doesn't actually make a
lot of difference. Firstly, you control the panel of experts,
so they don't surprise you. They recommend a project, it
goes ahead, and as minister you have the advantage now
of being able to blame them if it all goes wrong.

(06:57):
But in that mad mix of politics versus actually doing stuff,
the politics inevitably plays a part. It's your image, it's
the perception. Are you a government of action? Do you
get zis results or how much of what you are
about is merely a series of announcements. What you can't
fault this lot on is one intent and two announcing stuff.

(07:17):
Now this is still fine. Announcing stuff is still fine
given they only arrived at the start of this year.
But as we enter next year, results will need to
be seen. By election year, we will need runs on
the board because results count. The worst mistake they can
make is chickening out of second guessing, of focus grouping
themselves out of office, but backing down, changing their mind,
or saying one thing and doing another shows indecisiveness and weakness.

(07:40):
My message is very, very simple. Don't die wondering.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
Well, unless you're a frog or a snail, of course,
and then just die. I was made the lawns yesterday
and I discovered a frog, and the post mode that
of lawn And when I say I discovered a frog,
is about three quarters of a frog. And I consult

(08:04):
myself with the thought that it was probably dead already,
because otherwise it would July.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
It would have just hopped out of the way.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
And then but then I became a little bit distressed
again when I thought about how it may have died,
and it may have died at the hands of my dog,
who loves playing with frogs. I'm not sure if he's
ever played with one and to death.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
But maybe that was the time frog Talks, said BA,
who would have guessed?

Speaker 4 (08:30):
So rewrap.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
You never know where these podcasts are going to go,
Although if you were going to bet there'd be some
talk about if one.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
That's a fairly safe bet.

Speaker 4 (08:39):
I reckon Liam Lawson. I cannot tell you how much
ink is being expressed by various journalists around the world
this morning on the very real prospect of appears increasingly
so He's going to be at Monza this weekend racing
for Williams. So I think the Herald tried to rule
it out yesterday. I don't know where they got the
information from, but it seems to be changing literally by
the hour. So from speed Cafe, Lawson linked to shock.

(08:59):
If one return at Mons and Mons's this weekend, itally,
multiple sources. James Vale has talked to Christian Horner. Christian
Horne says that it depends on which terms and if
we needed him back, would we get him back now?
Obviously that can work their way around that. That's not
a problem. Certainly if they needed a driver next weekend,
we'd be open to that. So that's Christian Horner logan

(09:21):
sergeant replacement plan becomes clear as William's hold talks with
F one Star. This is the Express in Britain covering
at this morning. Vals had talks with Horner over the
possibility of bringing Liam Lawson into the team. On a
nine race loan. The only issue they would have. And
this is interesting, this obstacle. This is from last Word
on sports dot Com Liam Lawson. This obstacle could prevent

(09:42):
a William's move. The obstacle being Perees, and they cite
Pererees is still under evaluation at Red Bull. Now what's
the story there? The story there is, and it's an
ongoing rumor that come Mexico, post Mexico, they're gonna let
Perees go. They're holding out to Mexico for obvious reasons.
Post Mexico, they let him go. If they let him go,
they suddenly need Lawso back. Hence they don't let him

(10:04):
go on a nice nine race loan. Red Bull gives
Green like Lawson on his way to Williams. This is
this morning. GP blog appears to be getting a second
chance in Formula one. All signs are green. Williams would
like to have a new driver in Sergeant's car as
early as monster Which of courses this weekend? From Motorsport
this morning. The other name in the mix is Mcschumacher.

(10:27):
They and along with Lawson, have appeared as the two
major contenders. If it's good and this is the best
one of all. This is from Helmet Marco no Less,
when asked by Sky's Sport overnight whether Liam Lawson would
get permission to drive for Williams this season. If it's
good for a young driver and he can gain some
race experience, we wouldn't stand in his way. So Horner

(10:49):
says it's okay. Marco says it's okay, which is about
the first time Marco and Horner have ever agreed on anything.
Certainly this year, as far as I can work out,
it is entirely possible that Liam Lawson will be in
a Williams this coming weekend in Italy, in Monza, and
that would be worth watching.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
So I actually asked Mike off here this morning with
a he was more interested when it comes to F one.
Is he more interested in the cars going round and
around a bit or the bes behind the scenes but
and he said the bes behind the scenes, but no contest,
And I.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Thought that was sad.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
The rewrap.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
We're going to finish up here, turning the station back
into bin towards ZB where it should be quick.

Speaker 4 (11:28):
Is you ready for this? This is too stupid for words?
How many and I thought about this this morning? Ironically,
because in my area there's you know, there's little bins
they put out. Won't be around the whole country, but
they put these tiny little bins about the size smaller
than the size of a ten liter paint can. And
they put these little bins out and I don't even
know what goes in. There's a food waste.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
I think it's food, correct, I believe it. It's supposed to
be food wasking.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
So that some people put them out and some of
them blow down the street. A lot of people don't
bother anyway. In Wales, it has been an ounced overnight
that they so we've got three. You'd have a red
lid in our A red lid, thats your standard. You'd
have your what's the recycling blue? Is it yellow? Was
not at our place? What are you?

Speaker 3 (12:10):
I don't think you want to get too bogged down
in the colors, because have we gone just definitely we
got through.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
In different places. You're going to have different ways.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Yeah, but we've got three basically, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
Whales they have the highest number average number of bins
in the UK. They are second in the world for
recycling household waste, only behind Germany. So God knows, I
must investigate overnight. God knows how many bins Germany's gone.
They have on average in Wales ten ten bins per house,

(12:40):
at which point you would ask the question, is really
worth saving the planet when you've got to deal with
ten bins? And what do you put in those ten bins?
And does anyone actually follow us?

Speaker 3 (12:47):
Does the same people another question? Does the same people
make the bins that makes the cones?

Speaker 4 (12:51):
It's pretty good questions, very good.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
Somebody's somebody's a lot of plastic being made there, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
I don't know why I happened to that.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
I thought that we were supposed to be nationally simplifying everybody.
There's going to be like one standard for everywhere in
the country as well.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
Or is that traction which means it probably won't even happen.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
And all I know is that I spent the weekend
over at my father in law's place at Mount Monganui,
and the Tarranger Council they keep changing their minds about
how many bins and what sort of bins you need,
And it's to the point now where I think pretty
sure that my father in law and his wife too
terrified to put anything in.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
The rubbish at all and just holding it from various
cupboards around the house now, and I can't blame them.
I can't work it out. I am a glen hat.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
I'm going to go home and figure out if I
put the right thing in the right bins because it
has been day to day. Hopefully they're all empty when
I get home. I'll see you then, what do you mean?
I see you?

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Then I'll see them borrow, That's what I mean, jees,
streets of me See streets

Speaker 1 (14:03):
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