September 3, 2024 • 10 mins
THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Wednesday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) Who Cares?/Toast Is More Complicated Than You Think/Not Everyone Speeds/Flying Is Actually Safer/The Biggest Awards Night of the Year
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from News Talks EDB. Follow
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
Okay there, welcome to the Rewrap for Wednesday. All the
best that's from the Mike Hosking breakfast on News Talks
EDB in a sillier package. I am Glenn Hart and today, Yes,
the health budget won't be saved by not giving people
toast apparently more speed limit talk. We're going to have
a look at a look at airlines safety over the years.
(00:47):
And who won big at the CFO Awards last night.
I know you've been waiting to hear about that, but
first up, Yes, so the visitor levy gone up from
not much to one hundred, but is that much still?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
There are a number of things that stand out to
me anyway post COVID that are disappointing. Obviously, the recessionary
state this place has been in it's caused continues to cause,
although I think they're all ultimately tied into the one
major event, i e. COVID tourism. Though tourism stands out
as the most clear example of something we've had and
(01:21):
something we've now lost. Not literally, they still arrived, but
not like they used to. My word, not like that
they used to. It not even closed. Something happened between
closing the borders and opening them back up. Initially it
was a time thing. Apparently it was a capacity thing.
The planes weren't back yet. But four years on what
some of us saw a couple of years ago, and
everyone now sees the truth has been laid bare. We
are simply not up to it the way we once were.
(01:43):
But Queenstown in the general area, that's back plus some
and that's awesome. But nowhere else's we're maround at about
eighty percent, and that doesn't count the gap between the
eighty and the one hundred percent plus it could have
been should have been. And all those tens of not
hundreds of thousands of people who should have been arriving
in these past few years they went elsewhere. Because, let's
be blunt, it's not that the world hasn't been traveling,
(02:05):
just not here. Enter the new entry feet of the
country at triples, it'll be hundred bucks. As I'm sure
you're well aware, industry operators don't like it. I don't
blame them. So doing it tough is hard enough without
heaping more cost on I assume the government took that
into account. They defend it by comparing us to the
fees of other countries. But isn't that the point? We
aren't other countries, and the numbers show it. I still
(02:27):
want to argue one hundred bucks should not be a barrier.
I mean, if you spend three grand getting here, is
one hundred dollars what tips you over? But here's the
indescapable truth. Tourism, along with Derry, was the golden goose,
and we, if not ricked it, irreparably harmed it. I
don't see how making it more expensive improves our plight.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yeah. So the thing I don't get about this is
that I've never ever considered this. When I'm going on
holiday somewhere. You know, the cost of going there is
the cost of going there, Like the question has always
just been do you want to go there? So Bally,
for example, you know, you had to get a vs
there and that costs such and such, and then there
was some kind of airport tax, and you don't really
you just go, right, okay, let's pay all that stuff,
(03:07):
because you so that when you get there it's going
to be cheap.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
You know.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
The food's going to be cheap, and you know the
sites are going to be the sites and all the
rest of it.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
No, but this is brilliant.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
I mean, I guess if you're coming to New Zealand
every second week, you might notice the difference. But other
than that, can you break it's got rewrap? Maybe if
the tourists decide not to have toast a few times
when they're here, I'll be able to say that enough
for that visit to Levy.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
I've been thinking a bit about old Lester lately, Lester Levy, Right,
I can't imagine how hard his job is, this new
health commissioner. So health goes through cycles. Right, Sometimes it
gets a head of steam, makes news every second day.
Sometimes it vanishes from the headlines. Doesn't mean stuff isn't broken,
It just means it's not headlines right now. Of course
it is headlines and as headlines. Actually, I think because
things are broken. When you argue about toast as we
(03:53):
have been, it's more than broken. It's now got pathetic.
I went through the paper clip argument when I worked
for Radio New Zealand, back when Radio New Zealand was
commercial and non commercial, all owned by the government. The
place was a mess. This was the late eighties. They
initiated Operation Aurora to cut costs, and paper clips and
staplers were one of the targets. And when it gets
(04:13):
to that point, you know, the place basically is stuffed.
They eventually sold the commercial side of the operation off
and we've never looked back. Health might may well be
in the same boat. Not that they can sell it off,
of course, but how bad does it have to get
before large numbers of people basically give up, and, no
matter what cost, into the private sector by way of insurance.
I am told by those who know in an emergency,
(04:33):
public health here is still great. It still saves your life.
It's the elective stuff that's broken. And it's broken as
all things are broken because of many, many, many smaller things.
Lack of GP access, poor health, poor choices, lifestyle, lack
of private coverage. All that you have overworked and underappreciated
nurses and doctors. You have gaps where nurses and doctors
should be but aren't. Here's what I know from Aurora.
(04:56):
Never ask the inmates what to do because they suggest
paper clips and stapleers. They never recommended blowing the place up,
which in our case was exactly what was needed. Toast
is not health's problem or its answer. Billion dollars is
what we spend, and I agree with the Prime Minister
it should be more than enough. If you've decided toast
might help you, you're either an idiot or you're looking
(05:19):
in the wrong place.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I mean, I guess, I mean, you know, you dismiss
the toast, But then it's about what you have on
the toast as well, isn't it You know they're going
for a really classy peanut butter. Is it just you know,
is it batter? I mean, batter is expensive? Do you go,
you know, some kind of olive oil spread instead? It's
(05:41):
a complicated business toast. Right, So yes, speed limits hopefully
on the way up in some places. I say hopefully
because you know, it seems like a reasonable idea on
safe roads.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
I think Mike might agree with me.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Can I ask this very simple question when I read
the headline, consultation has opened on a proposed one hundred
and ten kilometer speed limit for Auckland's northern Gateway. This
is the pooh hooy to walk with, right, This is
the one I know like the back of my hand.
It's basically a world class road. It's a couple of
lanes in each direction, it's separated by a median barrier.
You will not get a more beautiful road in the country.
(06:16):
What are we consulting about? What possible reason is there
to consult whether to go one hundred and ten? First
of all, everyone's going one hundred and ten anyway, so
let's make it one hundred and thirty hundred. Let's make
it like the auto barns in Germany and just go
for broke and all the slow people get out of
the way on the right hand lane and you go
on the left hand lane, and we always through anyway.
But that as it may. What's to consult? What is
(06:38):
it you need to know? What is it we haven't
talked about before on new roads? What do we need
to relitigate yet again? To just make a basic decision
that doesn't require consultation, And that, in a nutshell, is
part of what's wrong with this country.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
I think I may have mentioned this before, but I
think it's worth repeating that. It's when you're Mike, just
doesn't cross your mind that some people actually drive to
the speed limit. And I'll never forget the time that
we all went to breakfast. This was back in the
days when Kate was reading the news and Mike was hosting,
and yeah, and it's yeah, a bunch of us all went,
(07:18):
you know, from work to breakfast, and funnily enough, I
was the car in front and they're all stuck behind me.
And then I've just had this reputation as a nano
driver ea since because you know, I foolishly wanted to
just go the speed, I was legally obligated to go
the re wrap course faster way to get places as
(07:38):
via air, and it might actually be a safer way
to get there too.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Speaking of travel, seems to be a thing this morning
as a result of Boeing, and there are many in
varied problems. MIT have done some research which is interesting.
One in five of us twenty percent, in other words,
are doing more research into the plane we could be
flying on, So that's interesting. Fifty five percent of travelers
so they've changed the way their book flights because of
recent news by the aircraft and airlines. Thirteen percent are
(08:05):
avoiding discount carriers to feel more secure, not that has
anything to do with anything. The plane's the problem, not
the carrier. Journal of Air Transport Management has published all
of this. Risk of dying on a commercial flight globally
was one per thirteen point seven million passenger boardings one
(08:25):
per thirteen point seven Has that changed, My God has changed.
By the way, this all applies to Tier one countries.
Tier one countries of the US, the European Union, other
parts of Europe, Australia, Canada, China, Israel, Japan, and New Zealand.
So we're in Tier one. You want to go Tier
two Bosnia, Brazil, Brunei, Hong Kong, I find interesting, India, Jordan,
et cetera. So anyway, Tier one is what it applies to.
(08:48):
So one per thirteen point seven million, if you go
back to the early two thousands, is at one point
seven nine million, so it was materially more risky. If
you want to go back to say the seventies, it
was one per seven hundred and fifty thousand. So it
has got increasingly safer to travel on an airline. That's
(09:08):
the old business of reality versus theory, or theory versus reality.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
I wonder if I'm being killed in a a terrorism
rescue attempt by Israeli special forces, I wonder if that
counts as airline safety or not, because then you know
they'll make it a bit of a difference in the
seventies and eighties, that sort.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Of thing, wouldn't it just say the rerat I'm going
to finish up here with something I don't think we've
ever covered on the show before. The CFO Awards. Yep,
that's right, there's a CFO Awards.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
They had a big do last night for CFOs. David mackerel,
who is the in z ME Chief Financial officer, has
won the Chief Financial Officer of the Year award. The
finest chief financial officer in the country works at this
very company.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
So how do they decide that they have a race.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Bunt to ten one of the criteria. I don't know
what they did, but he's the best of the best,
so we'll take that. So that makes two of us.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Now, So there's bragging and then there's humble bragging, and
then there's the opposite of humble bragging, which is whatever
Mike just did. Then, I don't know what you call that,
not humble bragging and humble bragging that was he just
did it with a cough spectacular. I don't know which
bodily functions. We'll hear from Mike tomorrow, but I can't
(10:26):
wait to find out.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I'll see it for more from News Talks at b
Listen live on air or online, and keep our shows
with you wherever you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talks EDB. Follow
this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio Rewrap.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Okay there, welcome to the Rewrap for Wednesday. All the
best that's from the Mike Hosking breakfast on News Talks
EDB in a sillier package. I am Glenn Hart and today, Yes,
the health budget won't be saved by not giving people
toast apparently more speed limit talk. We're going to have
a look at a look at airlines safety over the years.
(00:47):
And who won big at the CFO Awards last night.
I know you've been waiting to hear about that, but
first up, Yes, so the visitor levy gone up from
not much to one hundred, but is that much still?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
There are a number of things that stand out to
me anyway post COVID that are disappointing. Obviously, the recessionary
state this place has been in it's caused continues to cause,
although I think they're all ultimately tied into the one
major event, i e. COVID tourism. Though tourism stands out
as the most clear example of something we've had and
(01:21):
something we've now lost. Not literally, they still arrived, but
not like they used to. My word, not like that
they used to. It not even closed. Something happened between
closing the borders and opening them back up. Initially it
was a time thing. Apparently it was a capacity thing.
The planes weren't back yet. But four years on what
some of us saw a couple of years ago, and
everyone now sees the truth has been laid bare. We
are simply not up to it the way we once were.
(01:43):
But Queenstown in the general area, that's back plus some
and that's awesome. But nowhere else's we're maround at about
eighty percent, and that doesn't count the gap between the
eighty and the one hundred percent plus it could have
been should have been. And all those tens of not
hundreds of thousands of people who should have been arriving
in these past few years they went elsewhere. Because, let's
be blunt, it's not that the world hasn't been traveling,
(02:05):
just not here. Enter the new entry feet of the
country at triples, it'll be hundred bucks. As I'm sure
you're well aware, industry operators don't like it. I don't
blame them. So doing it tough is hard enough without
heaping more cost on I assume the government took that
into account. They defend it by comparing us to the
fees of other countries. But isn't that the point? We
aren't other countries, and the numbers show it. I still
(02:27):
want to argue one hundred bucks should not be a barrier.
I mean, if you spend three grand getting here, is
one hundred dollars what tips you over? But here's the
indescapable truth. Tourism, along with Derry, was the golden goose,
and we, if not ricked it, irreparably harmed it. I
don't see how making it more expensive improves our plight.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yeah. So the thing I don't get about this is
that I've never ever considered this. When I'm going on
holiday somewhere. You know, the cost of going there is
the cost of going there, Like the question has always
just been do you want to go there? So Bally,
for example, you know, you had to get a vs
there and that costs such and such, and then there
was some kind of airport tax, and you don't really
you just go, right, okay, let's pay all that stuff,
(03:07):
because you so that when you get there it's going
to be cheap.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
You know.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
The food's going to be cheap, and you know the
sites are going to be the sites and all the
rest of it.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
No, but this is brilliant.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
I mean, I guess if you're coming to New Zealand
every second week, you might notice the difference. But other
than that, can you break it's got rewrap? Maybe if
the tourists decide not to have toast a few times
when they're here, I'll be able to say that enough
for that visit to Levy.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
I've been thinking a bit about old Lester lately, Lester Levy, Right,
I can't imagine how hard his job is, this new
health commissioner. So health goes through cycles. Right, Sometimes it
gets a head of steam, makes news every second day.
Sometimes it vanishes from the headlines. Doesn't mean stuff isn't broken,
It just means it's not headlines right now. Of course
it is headlines and as headlines. Actually, I think because
things are broken. When you argue about toast as we
(03:53):
have been, it's more than broken. It's now got pathetic.
I went through the paper clip argument when I worked
for Radio New Zealand, back when Radio New Zealand was
commercial and non commercial, all owned by the government. The
place was a mess. This was the late eighties. They
initiated Operation Aurora to cut costs, and paper clips and
staplers were one of the targets. And when it gets
(04:13):
to that point, you know, the place basically is stuffed.
They eventually sold the commercial side of the operation off
and we've never looked back. Health might may well be
in the same boat. Not that they can sell it off,
of course, but how bad does it have to get
before large numbers of people basically give up, and, no
matter what cost, into the private sector by way of insurance.
I am told by those who know in an emergency,
(04:33):
public health here is still great. It still saves your life.
It's the elective stuff that's broken. And it's broken as
all things are broken because of many, many, many smaller things.
Lack of GP access, poor health, poor choices, lifestyle, lack
of private coverage. All that you have overworked and underappreciated
nurses and doctors. You have gaps where nurses and doctors
should be but aren't. Here's what I know from Aurora.
(04:56):
Never ask the inmates what to do because they suggest
paper clips and stapleers. They never recommended blowing the place up,
which in our case was exactly what was needed. Toast
is not health's problem or its answer. Billion dollars is
what we spend, and I agree with the Prime Minister
it should be more than enough. If you've decided toast
might help you, you're either an idiot or you're looking
(05:19):
in the wrong place.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I mean, I guess, I mean, you know, you dismiss
the toast, But then it's about what you have on
the toast as well, isn't it You know they're going
for a really classy peanut butter. Is it just you know,
is it batter? I mean, batter is expensive? Do you go,
you know, some kind of olive oil spread instead? It's
(05:41):
a complicated business toast. Right, So yes, speed limits hopefully
on the way up in some places. I say hopefully
because you know, it seems like a reasonable idea on
safe roads.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
I think Mike might agree with me.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Can I ask this very simple question when I read
the headline, consultation has opened on a proposed one hundred
and ten kilometer speed limit for Auckland's northern Gateway. This
is the pooh hooy to walk with, right, This is
the one I know like the back of my hand.
It's basically a world class road. It's a couple of
lanes in each direction, it's separated by a median barrier.
You will not get a more beautiful road in the country.
(06:16):
What are we consulting about? What possible reason is there
to consult whether to go one hundred and ten? First
of all, everyone's going one hundred and ten anyway, so
let's make it one hundred and thirty hundred. Let's make
it like the auto barns in Germany and just go
for broke and all the slow people get out of
the way on the right hand lane and you go
on the left hand lane, and we always through anyway.
But that as it may. What's to consult? What is
(06:38):
it you need to know? What is it we haven't
talked about before on new roads? What do we need
to relitigate yet again? To just make a basic decision
that doesn't require consultation, And that, in a nutshell, is
part of what's wrong with this country.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
I think I may have mentioned this before, but I
think it's worth repeating that. It's when you're Mike, just
doesn't cross your mind that some people actually drive to
the speed limit. And I'll never forget the time that
we all went to breakfast. This was back in the
days when Kate was reading the news and Mike was hosting,
and yeah, and it's yeah, a bunch of us all went,
(07:18):
you know, from work to breakfast, and funnily enough, I
was the car in front and they're all stuck behind me.
And then I've just had this reputation as a nano
driver ea since because you know, I foolishly wanted to
just go the speed, I was legally obligated to go
the re wrap course faster way to get places as
(07:38):
via air, and it might actually be a safer way
to get there too.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Speaking of travel, seems to be a thing this morning
as a result of Boeing, and there are many in
varied problems. MIT have done some research which is interesting.
One in five of us twenty percent, in other words,
are doing more research into the plane we could be
flying on, So that's interesting. Fifty five percent of travelers
so they've changed the way their book flights because of
recent news by the aircraft and airlines. Thirteen percent are
(08:05):
avoiding discount carriers to feel more secure, not that has
anything to do with anything. The plane's the problem, not
the carrier. Journal of Air Transport Management has published all
of this. Risk of dying on a commercial flight globally
was one per thirteen point seven million passenger boardings one
(08:25):
per thirteen point seven Has that changed, My God has changed.
By the way, this all applies to Tier one countries.
Tier one countries of the US, the European Union, other
parts of Europe, Australia, Canada, China, Israel, Japan, and New Zealand.
So we're in Tier one. You want to go Tier
two Bosnia, Brazil, Brunei, Hong Kong, I find interesting, India, Jordan,
et cetera. So anyway, Tier one is what it applies to.
(08:48):
So one per thirteen point seven million, if you go
back to the early two thousands, is at one point
seven nine million, so it was materially more risky. If
you want to go back to say the seventies, it
was one per seven hundred and fifty thousand. So it
has got increasingly safer to travel on an airline. That's
(09:08):
the old business of reality versus theory, or theory versus reality.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
I wonder if I'm being killed in a a terrorism
rescue attempt by Israeli special forces, I wonder if that
counts as airline safety or not, because then you know
they'll make it a bit of a difference in the
seventies and eighties, that sort.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Of thing, wouldn't it just say the rerat I'm going
to finish up here with something I don't think we've
ever covered on the show before. The CFO Awards. Yep,
that's right, there's a CFO Awards.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
They had a big do last night for CFOs. David mackerel,
who is the in z ME Chief Financial officer, has
won the Chief Financial Officer of the Year award. The
finest chief financial officer in the country works at this
very company.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
So how do they decide that they have a race.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Bunt to ten one of the criteria. I don't know
what they did, but he's the best of the best,
so we'll take that. So that makes two of us.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Now, So there's bragging and then there's humble bragging, and
then there's the opposite of humble bragging, which is whatever
Mike just did. Then, I don't know what you call that,
not humble bragging and humble bragging that was he just
did it with a cough spectacular. I don't know which
bodily functions. We'll hear from Mike tomorrow, but I can't
(10:26):
wait to find out.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I'll see it for more from News Talks at b
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