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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Rerap There, Welcome to the Rewrap for Friday. All the
best bits from the Mike Hosking breakfast on News Talks
sad Be in a sillier package. I'm being hardened today.
What is the best thing to build a city on?
Philosophically speaking? Is it renewables? Maybe we'll mark the week.
There are some obvious houses, so those previous questions, that's
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why'm moving on so quickly. We'll mark the week because
Friday is what we do and we won't move on
quickly from that. And then we'll discuss the high jump
because I think Mike Hoskin thinks he was better at
it than he actually was. But before any event, Springfield
are Springfield. It really became the sort of the what
do you call it? The hot zone sort of during
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post the debate right.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Just back to Springfield, Ohio. Here's what's wrong with one
the nutters, but two also the mainstream media. So obviously
there are no cats and dogs being eaten by Haitians, right,
But where that started was twofold. The main one was
there was a woman who was found with a cat.
Now the mainstream media covered that yesterday, but they stopped
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the story when they said she wasn't Haitian, she still
had a cat. So that's where a story comes from.
Second part, Springfield has a population of fifty six and
this is where the base of the story starts. So
you start with a true story and then it explodes
out to the weird world of the nutjobs. Springfield has
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a population, who knew, of fifty six to fifty seven
thousand people. It's a tiny place. There are fifteen thousand
new arrivals from Haiti, so the population suddenly exponentially has
exploded with Haitians. Now everyone's seems to agree that that's
not good for the community. It puts stress on resources.
There's nowhere for them to go. And a small town
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of fifty six to fifty seven thousand people with suddenly
fifteen thousand arriving. It's not Los Angeles, it's not New York.
It's Springfield. Fifty six to fifty seven thousand people suddenly
got fifteen thousand Natians arriving. What else is going to happen?
But angst and upset from the answer, so that's a
genuine problem and a genuine story, and that's part of
the immigration story in America, and that's why it is
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the number one issue during the election campaign. So that's real.
Then enter the nutters, who then talk about the dogs
and the cats, and there was some video of some
weirdos saying there were ducks being pulled out of the
pond and the park and all, and then it goes nuts.
But at its essence, as is so often the case,
is actually a real problem that once the nutters get
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hold of it is never really addressed, and then that
is the show.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I actually think the real problem is that there are
sixty seven springfields in the United States, sixty seven, and
there are only fifty states in the United States. And
what's more, there are only thirty five states that have
springfields in them. So you're doing if you're adding all
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the time, Yes, it is quick in a list of
states that don't have springfields than the ones that do,
and some of them have two. So sixty seven divided
by thirty five that's almost two springfields. Very e free state.
We've got one, I reckon at our one in Canterbury.
They should serve hot dogs and some kind of cat sandwich,
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I reckon that would go great.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
It's not rewrap.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
It's not a city though, Springfield want to make that
quite clear. But if you are building a city, what's
the best way to do it?
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Question for you? Is it possible? One of the great
mistakes of the modern era has been made around our cities.
These and I think are increasing times or areas of
life in which the theory, the promise, the dream is
not only not coming to pass, but it's possible it
never will. See the EB industry globally as in a
major state of flux at the moment. Any number of
large producers have not only promised to stop selling engines
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by twenty thirty ish, they now rely well, they've now realized,
of course that's not real, so they've had to backtrack.
But they've also realized that all the money they didn't
spend on the next generation of engines has been lost
and they now have to fill the gap. Renewables will
talk about this this morning. They're in a similar place.
Larry Allison this week told investors AI is so crazy
when it comes to power consumption. They're at Oracle now
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building a data center that will be run by three
small nuclear reactors. Now the world largely doesn't have such
reactors right now, and it certainly doesn't have the renewable
capability to run such data centers. And then to downtown
New Zealand. Reform of city centers was predicated on several
theories essentially, essentially, we wanted to save the planet while
living like Europe. What we've ended up with is downtown Auckland,
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Downtown Toweronga, Downtown Wellington, all, if not destroyed, certainly in
a state no one's proud of. As the bike lane's,
bus lanes, lack of parking has taken its told. The
businesses have closed, the people have gone home, never to
come back. The mulls are popped up in suburbia, and
the CBD is shot to pieces. We weren't like Europe.
We aren't Europe never will be. Do We live in
an age where the concept of the illusion of what
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could be is driven by the bandwagon of the day.
Something the idea logs leap on board with no real
insight as to what might actually be required for it
to come to pass, driven of course by good intention,
but appalling planning urged on by NGOs and the like.
You need a buzz phrase or an agenda to keep
them well, keep pushing to maintain relevance of indeed not
funding people who want to be on the perceived right
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side of the hot new trend. And it all comes
at a huge cost these downtown areas of tomorrow. Just
when is tomorrow? When is Wellington going to be the
pedestrian magnet, the cobbled hub? When does Auckland wear itself
out with all the new outlets opening in Queen Street?
When does Taronga cut its umpteenth ribbon on the mecha
that is the revitalized CBD drawing fans from near and far.
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Or was it simply a good picture on a white
board that will never In fact.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Rock and roll? Your bill cities on rock and roll.
That's what your bill city is on. Everybody knows that
it's been that way for decades. Obvious. Okay, so some
other things that seem to work better in theory than
they do in reality. Powering your entire country on renewables
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doesn't seem to be working because we just seem to
want a lot more power than renewables can supply. Now
that seems logical and obvious, and yet it might seems
to feel obliged to keep pointing it out.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Right, these renewables and this report out yesterday, what a
disgrace it comes to us from NB and there surely
has to be and we're working on something and I'll
present it to you next week. The Labor Party former
Labor government argument is this gas problem is not a
problem because there is no gas. The fact that we're
not looking for it doesn't really matter because even if
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we were looking for it, we wouldn't find any. Also,
they say, is that true. I'm increasingly of the belief
it isn't. And if it isn't, they need to be
held to account anyway. So whenbgive us these numbers, we
are relying more than ever on coal and gas. And
why is that? Because we have no gas, so more
coal comes into the country. So the renewables number sits
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at eighty one point three percent of total generation that
is renewables. It's still high. We're one of the highest
renewable operators in the world, but it is a six
an eight point six percent decline from the same period
last year, the most startling figure released for the first
time since June of twenty one, Despite a fifty percent
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increase in wind capacity. Coal generated more electricity than wind.
How insane is that. Everyone agrees we need renewables. Everyone
agrees renewables are fantastic. It's just we haven't got there yet,
and in the meantime, we can't keep the lights on
and people are losing their jobs. Coal base electricity generation
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increased to eight hundred and eighty three giga hours. Is
that good compared to one hundred and forty four giga hours,
So that's an exponential increase. Natural gas increased forty four
percent in the same quarter. Net production at the same
time of gas is down nineteen percent. Geothermal was the
highest on record for a quarterly basis made up nineteen
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percent of total generation. We are says the energy resources
are toiroa people's Basically, the system is lurching from one
crisis to another, and it all stems from the fact
that doesn't rain can't be controlled. Not our fault. We're
not getting enough gas can be controlled. Is entirely our fault,
and we need to do something about it. So we'll
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continue with this discussion next week.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
What I've enjoyed about this whole debate, especially the gas
insploration debate over over the last few weeks. Has it
only been weeks? It seems like months. Is every time
we get somebody on who says gas is hard to
find your laugh every time because of course it is
odorless and visible. So yes, I know that you smell
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the guess, but they put the smell in. That's my belief,
is that an Irvin myth. I'm going to look that
up now, a rewrap. Let's mark the week. I'm just checking.
I'm just looking that up. Yep, No, it's Friday, And
even though it's Friday, at the thirteenth, I still feel lucky.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Time to mark a week, little piece of news and
current events. It's as popular as a baby revealed party
at Dave Grohl's house. Migration three, we're still leaving in
record numbers young New Zealanders deciding this ain't the place
for them. It is a startling and ongoing indictment. One
hundred and twenty K's eight. I'm not sure why they
need to consultant on the stuff. I mean, we've consulted forever,
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but roads of national significance should not just be significant,
but fast the yield curve. Sex yeah, not really dinner
party chat, but our short term number is higher than
our long term number for the first time in a while.
That's a good thing. Oil sex now that's a good
thing too, because the price and the dollar it is
trending in the right direction and significantly so fill your boots.
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Are the NFL season.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
I can dondo the tree. I cannot do.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
It continues to get bigger globally every year. I'm obsessed
with it. It is a leakness at its best. Are
the IRD three? Taking our stuff and flicking it off
to big tech without asking us is dumb and root
and needs stopping Big Tech two Wow. From the Corpse
of Europe to the Senate inquiry in Australia this week,
they continue to remind us they are a modern day
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hazard in too many ways. Australian rules three not the sport.
Government's pretending they can solve problems that haven't been solved
anywhere else in the world. That's wasteful. If Australia successfully
bans kids from social media, I will eat Rawerri White
to te hat. David Seymour raight.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Shit, Well, who do you think I am?
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Jesus Stoic Operator of the Week called out the grocery
Commissioner took on a growing queue of handwringers who hate
democracy over his treaty bill. You can't mark them down
for keeping on fighting his fight. He's seven now. If
you want to study a bloke who brings genius to
his job, he is your man. Michael Barnier seven The media. Seven.
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The media covered the one hundred thousand people on the streets
of France last weekend protesting. The polls told you most
French think he's absolutely fine. And that's the difference between
clickbait and the real world. Acc three. Oh, we've got
a one billion dollar Bundt gap. It could be that
we're a bit slack, but it doesn't matter. We'll pass
the bill on anyway, try harder. Twenty two Monaco Drive eight.
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A house for sale on a racetrack with a big
garage in central Otago with a car in your lounge
and a lift that lifts it there for you. Come on,
Donald Trump too.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
They're eating the pets of the people that live there.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
He's his own worst enemy. And that that is the
week copies on the website and a third of this
was constructed using new Chrono working hour, so a chunk
of it was produced pretty dawn, and I think you
know which.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah, if you haven't caught up with that chrono working
or chrono working working to suit your body, your natural
body clock, I don't think that's a recipe for productivity
In my case, I just feel like I would just
be endeared all the time and never working. And I'm
not sure how I'm going to get that past you
any prospective employer.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Unfortunately, it's a rewrap.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
We're going to finish discussing the high jump. We had
Hamish ker And today, a gold medalist high jumper, very
tall bloke, and yeah, Mike was I think Mike thinks
about the high jump more than the average person and
then assumes that everybody else thinks about it as much
as he does.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Aren't we all fascinated with things that we can't do. See,
the shot put is a power thing, it's a weight thing.
You've got to be a big person. If you're not
a big person, you're never going to excel at the shotput.
We can aspire, potentially surely to the high jump. We're
good at long jump. Anyone can run along really fast,
hit the bar jump. Don't have to be an Olympic
champion but we've got the potential to jump. We've got
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the potential to run four hundred meters round the track.
This is all school sports, right, But the high jump
was that illusory thing whereby for a while, Yes you can,
when it's low enough, we all jump over, and then
it gets a little bit higher and your mate start
dropping out, and then you fancy yourself and the scissors
are working, and then you do the role. I'm disappointed
to hear the roles not as big as it was
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when he ran down my age.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Obviously I was not disappointed. I was. I found it
very amusing that he said that you were. I think
I'm parapet uphrasing, but like an old coat basically to
have done that technique at all, like.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
He had obviously read about it in a book, yes
before an apt exactly like when they did it in Egypt.
Apparently that's what you used to do. But so did you?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Did you not flop?
Speaker 1 (14:00):
No?
Speaker 3 (14:00):
One Fosbury flopped.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
I flopped.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
All bollocks did not.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I did?
Speaker 3 (14:04):
You did not?
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I flopped and I could do it and then I
I got it wrong a couple of times and landed
on the bar.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Yeah that hurts, that's got that short.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
That really hurts, and then it increases and it gets
in your head.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
And you're done for. And that's what the sports. That's
the problem with the sports or psychological. When you look
at the bar, how high did you go? Roughly do
you go as was the bar below your head or
a bar?
Speaker 2 (14:26):
It would have been slightly higher than the mat, getting
as high as the mat.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
So you Frosby flopped over two and a half feet,
that's not that's just falling back.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Maybe even been lower, that's not real, and still managed
to knock for bar off.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
For goodness sake. Great high jumper who I saw at
the Commonwealth Games in Auckland a few years ago was
that Roger And was Roger to Poony? Roger to Pooney,
you're talking about Roger to Purney.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Mike.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
First time I ever did the Western role was at
Mount Rothwell Grammar in nineteen seventy and a sawdust pit.
I broke my arm and had to do my school
certificate examination righting left handed.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
And to think they don't do that technique anymore, I
don't know what happened then. See I often give Mike
a hard time for being a generation older than I am,
but he's actually not. He's only a few years older.
But it always makes me feel better when I find
out something like he never did the Frosby flop. That's
cool and that makes me feel much much younger because
we did. We were into it. It's all a psychological thing.
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You just go to go do it and then yeah,
like I say, once you've landed on the pole a
few times, then you can never do it again. But
like when you figure out how to do a really
good serve and tennis, it's all just like you'd all
just you know, put everything into it, and then you
give yourself a side strain or a groin strain and
it's all over. Nothing worse than a growing strain. I
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am Glen Heart. That was the rewrap. We'll be back
with more random comments like that for you on Monday.
How could you resist? You can't help yourself for.
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