September 25, 2024 • 12 mins
THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Thursday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) Blaming the Bottom Rung/Have We Got a School for You?/AUT Digs Itself a Deeper Hole/Never Forget Where Your Balls Are/Are You Receiving Me?
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from News Talks'd be follow
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
Repay there and welcome to the rewrap for Thursday, all
the best butts from the Micross can breakfast on Newtoos.
You beat in a sillier package. I am Glen Harten today.
There's nothing wrong with Chartis schools. They might be the answer.
The aut travel policy is something that's not going away
for them as much as they might want it to.
(00:48):
CGT Capital gains text that's not going away either, that issue,
but I wish it would because it's so boring. And
we're going to finish up there with all the people,
a little something for all the people who have been
experiencing some reception issues. But yeah, speaking of technical difficulties,
the Pilon that fell down, the reports.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Out now listen. I can't help, but the Transpower report
into the Pilon falling over and we'll talk about it
shortly is one of those reports that has to find
things to say because the real reason for the report
was obvious. Nevertheless, there are twenty six recommendations now to
recap the company that Transpower hires to maintain the Pilons
hired a couple of clowns and didn't train them. They
undid a lot of bolts, and the pilon fell over.
(01:29):
The report suggests that ultimately is Transpower's fault. I don't
see how you hire a painter he paints your house
the wrong color. Your wife tells you you're an idiot
for hiring the painter. As long as Transpower had checked
that a Maxim was a proper company, what is it
they're supposed to be doing. Are they supposed to bet
the company every time they do any work? Do they
run through the CB of everyone who touches a bolt?
(01:51):
Or is that the contractor's job the way it's the
contractor's job for everyone you hire in your life to
do anything for you. Certainly the issue raised in twenty
twenty one when an engineer four Transpower told the maintenance
issues were a thing that is on Transpower. Now they
were alerted, and yet they did nothing. That I suspect
goes in some way to the fact that Transpower are
(02:11):
a monopoly, and monopolies tend to be a little bit
lax around these things. The report recommends Transpower improved processes
for maintenance work on base plates. What's that mean? I
mean it's water blasting something. Do you need to hire
a rocket scientist to unscrew some bolts and have a
laminated sign on every tower saying only undo one bolt
(02:32):
at a time. Surely this is getting all a little
bit forensic and smacks of a report author making stuff
up basically for the sake of it. The simple truth
is the beginning, the middle, and the end of it
is a Maxim are a fault. They are the ones
that didn't do the job. The original report told us
all this. None of this is complicated. They weren't building
the Hadron collide. They were cleaning a tower. A maxim
(02:53):
hired fools, didn't train them, and untrained fools make mistakes.
A maxim should be sacked. They should be sued or
made to pay for the damage. The report says anywhere
between thirty seven and eighty million dollars, and that should
be that Transpower are not devoid of complete responsibility given
pilot are on them. But the reason the CEO doesn't
clean the building, do the correspondence and make all the
(03:13):
boxes is it's not possible, it's not reasonable, and that's
why you hire people to do stuff you can't. At
some point in the hiring process, the level of responsibility
transfers from the hirer to the higher re end of report.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah, it's a tricky one because I think Mike would
like some compensation and paid out to people who were
put out by the pylon falling down. And if you
just blamed the idiots that took the bulks out, they're
not going to be much help when it comes to
paying hundreds of thousands of dollars of conversation. So, yeah,
you might want to look a little bit better up
(03:49):
the jay.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
It's the rewrap.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Now I hated school and I think we're about to
hear Mike did as well, but he's still wants it fixt.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
So officially charter schools are back. The third reading of
the bill passed yesterday. That means it's now law, and
we stand by, I guess for round two of an
idea that one should never have been killed off in
the first place, to ideology for too long is stood
in the way of good education in this country. The irony,
or at least one of the ironies, of the re
emergence of charter schools is that the education system is
now worse than it was when they were first introduced,
(04:20):
and it was pretty bad back then. It still amazes
me that we can have the statistics we have on
schooling and somehow defend them as acceptable, and even those
who rightly don't defend them as acceptable because they aren't.
They then somehow still defend the status quo if only
it had more money, And that's education in this country.
Isn't it performing poorly and the sole solution is always
less teacher time and more money. Charter schools are not
(04:43):
for everybody. They don't claim to be. All they claim
to be is a recognition that a one stop shop
is not the only way to do things, and a
one stop shop does not fit all because it indisputably doesn't.
Few aspects of our lives revolve around no choice markets
and things, whether services or goods, evolve based on demand.
Our needs vary. Why is it so hard to understand
(05:04):
that it's no different in schools. I hated school personally.
My guess is probably would have achieved more in a
different environment communities and he is an irony one of
the biggest fans of charter schools. You know who, Mari
Communities no better than the ministry of education. Not every
bright idea comes out of Wellington. Charter schools are held
to account in attendance, finances and results, and indeed in
(05:26):
a more rigorous way than the public schools. The demand
outstripped supply on application are put simply, if they work,
if there is a demand, if some kids prosper, how
can you possibly talk them down?
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Just trying to think if there'd been a school that
was tailored specifically to my personal needs, whether I would
have enjoyed it more. Just trying to figure out what
those needs were exactly. I know that it was. I
felt like what I needed wasn't what they were serving,
but the one I was at, that's for damn sure.
(06:01):
Maybe just maybe everything that I ended up being was
because of that. That's an existential thought, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
M rewrap.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Actually, we're going to stay with education a little bit
longer because this ethnistic, it's racially based aut travel policy.
We get extra credits if you're the right race. It's
been under scrutiny on the show anyway for a while now,
(06:33):
and they're not making they're not helping themselves aut with
this Palm.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Jeep Palm is still on to the business of the
AUT and their racist policy around travel expenses. Her latest
is an email she's writing to the various people at AUT.
I found your email address on the AUT website, so
I hope I don't mind you contacting me contacting you
this way. I've recently been seeing AUT's points system for
(06:58):
travel funding. This is where you get extra points if
you're MARI, which is designed to fund disproportionately allocated towards
travel for MARI and Pacific staff for researchers. I'm interested
in the views of AUT staff, so all that's fine.
Then she ends the email. I also understand that AUT
staff who are members of the union have received an
(07:18):
email from the union's branch president requesting they do not
reply to my correspondence. This is disappointing, no kidding, and
that's the way that unions operate in this country. Heaven forbid,
you should ask a question, and Heaven for bid you
should feel free enough to respond. But no, we don't
like democracy and the free flow of ideas. So palme
(07:40):
jet's on it, and good on her.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Wow that had to turn a storm and a teacup
into a bubbling sparple. No, analogy didn't work either. So
not only can I not decide whether I'm going to
say ethnically or ethnicity, but my analogies have gone. This
is because I only got about three hours sleep last
night because I went to Matilda the show. You should go.
(08:04):
It's great, but I don't know if you should go
on a weeknight. If your alarm goes off. It two
fifty two am.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
The rewrap.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Now let's see if this next that will keep me
awake and I hang on. It's about capital gains tax
and banking.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Mike, A number of progressive countries don't have a CGT.
The A and Z CEO can easily afford to CGT,
but she hasn't obviously thought it out properly and as
part and apart from being annoying and annoying a lot
of amz's customers, this would obviously impact bottom line profits
for the banks, as it would take a lot of
money out of the system. Phil, you make an interesting point.
So potentially, and if you've missed this, Antonia who runs
(08:40):
the A and Z, came out yesterday and she said
the time is right for a CGT in this country.
And I'll tell you what I like about that. I
like it well, she's wrong, obviously, but I like the
fact she's got an opinion. And I told her a
person who was running a bank once and we're in
a meeting, and I said, I'll tell you what, if
you want a piece of advice, take it or leave it.
As it turns out, the person left it. I said,
what the banking sector needs is a spokesperson. Is a
(09:03):
go to is somebody you can ring on a regular basis.
It's like economics. When you want somebody to go to Bradley, right,
you go to Bradley It informetrics. Is Bradley available, Yes
he is. Is he on the phone, Yes he is.
Can he help you out, yes he can. Does he
speak in plain English? Yes he does. I said, what
the banking industry needs is a go to person who's
readily available, who can come on and talk to people
(09:23):
and explain things the way they see it from a
bank's perspective, because the bank's industry, the industry in general's
got a fairly poor reputation in terms of communication. So
I congratulate in Tonia for coming out and having an
opinion on something, and good on her for having an opinion.
And she must have known when she said it wouldn't
necessarily be popular with everybody, and she must have expected
potentially some pushback, but nevertheless she stood up, she said something,
(09:46):
and she stands by it, And good on her and
more people and I learned this lesson, particularly in COVID,
where so many people at the upper echelons of business
in this country lost their spine, forgot where their balls
were and never had an opinion, and never came out,
never said a damn thing about what was unfolding in
front of our very eyes. So good on her for
going public with that.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
There is nothing worse than forgetting where your balls are.
And you know, I didn't realize that was a symptom
of COVID. It doesn't surprise me. There's a lot of
brain fog issues. This is just sleep deprivation. I want
to make that quite clear. The rewrap and I can't
be playing for the reception issues that some people were
(10:26):
experiencing this morning either.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Mike, we're an utterphi five minutes from the city. As
a Nelson have spoken to numerous textas. We cannot get
you on FM. Would like to put you through the soundbar.
You're not the only one I'm in fung array. Using
my trusty twenty year old stereo, I cannot get you
on FM. It's not good enough. I need to do
something about this before I retire. It's impossible to get
(10:48):
the full HOSK along the Capity coast on the FM.
Possibly get the engineers to check their antenor alignment or
install a repeater. I'm getting a repeater in the barn
in the country. By the way, that's an exercise. I
didn't realize it was quite I was full on starlink
and the starlink I can see from the barn. I
can see the starlink. If I can see the starlink,
(11:09):
surely I can get a bit of signal into the barn.
And yet I can't. So I'm having to.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Get a what would I be get It's because a
repeating Neither the dish that you're looking at, nor you
as a person, Yes, neither of those things are met
Wi FI. So I would hope that I know. Actually
you got vaccinated, didn't you, So you probably don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
I am imagining something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it could be
just for years.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
So I mean, if you do want to put the
show through the soundbar, most sound bars these days you
can enable with a like a virtual assistant Alexa or
you know, Google Home or Siri something like that, and
so you just ask it to play news to ZB
and as long as you connect to the internet, you'll
get us. Well, you wouldn't do that, you want it
(11:59):
in the sound bar anyway. Probably nobody's going to hear
this now anyway, because I've probably it's been bare now
because of spreading vaccine misinformation, which of course was a
joke for I mean, I probably do admit blue tooth
(12:22):
and Wi Fi signals, but it's only because I've played
with so many different gadgets who, of course in the
day love them. So that's a whole other thing. You know.
I'm going to stop talking now and see if i
can go home, go to sleep, and I'll wake up
right nearly again tomorrow. Be back here, pushy tail, whatever
that means.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
For more from News Talks d B. Listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcast on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to a podcast from News Talks'd be follow
this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Repay there and welcome to the rewrap for Thursday, all
the best butts from the Micross can breakfast on Newtoos.
You beat in a sillier package. I am Glen Harten today.
There's nothing wrong with Chartis schools. They might be the answer.
The aut travel policy is something that's not going away
for them as much as they might want it to.
(00:48):
CGT Capital gains text that's not going away either, that issue,
but I wish it would because it's so boring. And
we're going to finish up there with all the people,
a little something for all the people who have been
experiencing some reception issues. But yeah, speaking of technical difficulties,
the Pilon that fell down, the reports.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Out now listen. I can't help, but the Transpower report
into the Pilon falling over and we'll talk about it
shortly is one of those reports that has to find
things to say because the real reason for the report
was obvious. Nevertheless, there are twenty six recommendations now to
recap the company that Transpower hires to maintain the Pilons
hired a couple of clowns and didn't train them. They
undid a lot of bolts, and the pilon fell over.
(01:29):
The report suggests that ultimately is Transpower's fault. I don't
see how you hire a painter he paints your house
the wrong color. Your wife tells you you're an idiot
for hiring the painter. As long as Transpower had checked
that a Maxim was a proper company, what is it
they're supposed to be doing. Are they supposed to bet
the company every time they do any work? Do they
run through the CB of everyone who touches a bolt?
(01:51):
Or is that the contractor's job the way it's the
contractor's job for everyone you hire in your life to
do anything for you. Certainly the issue raised in twenty
twenty one when an engineer four Transpower told the maintenance
issues were a thing that is on Transpower. Now they
were alerted, and yet they did nothing. That I suspect
goes in some way to the fact that Transpower are
(02:11):
a monopoly, and monopolies tend to be a little bit
lax around these things. The report recommends Transpower improved processes
for maintenance work on base plates. What's that mean? I
mean it's water blasting something. Do you need to hire
a rocket scientist to unscrew some bolts and have a
laminated sign on every tower saying only undo one bolt
(02:32):
at a time. Surely this is getting all a little
bit forensic and smacks of a report author making stuff
up basically for the sake of it. The simple truth
is the beginning, the middle, and the end of it
is a Maxim are a fault. They are the ones
that didn't do the job. The original report told us
all this. None of this is complicated. They weren't building
the Hadron collide. They were cleaning a tower. A maxim
(02:53):
hired fools, didn't train them, and untrained fools make mistakes.
A maxim should be sacked. They should be sued or
made to pay for the damage. The report says anywhere
between thirty seven and eighty million dollars, and that should
be that Transpower are not devoid of complete responsibility given
pilot are on them. But the reason the CEO doesn't
clean the building, do the correspondence and make all the
(03:13):
boxes is it's not possible, it's not reasonable, and that's
why you hire people to do stuff you can't. At
some point in the hiring process, the level of responsibility
transfers from the hirer to the higher re end of report.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah, it's a tricky one because I think Mike would
like some compensation and paid out to people who were
put out by the pylon falling down. And if you
just blamed the idiots that took the bulks out, they're
not going to be much help when it comes to
paying hundreds of thousands of dollars of conversation. So, yeah,
you might want to look a little bit better up
(03:49):
the jay.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
It's the rewrap.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Now I hated school and I think we're about to
hear Mike did as well, but he's still wants it fixt.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
So officially charter schools are back. The third reading of
the bill passed yesterday. That means it's now law, and
we stand by, I guess for round two of an
idea that one should never have been killed off in
the first place, to ideology for too long is stood
in the way of good education in this country. The irony,
or at least one of the ironies, of the re
emergence of charter schools is that the education system is
now worse than it was when they were first introduced,
(04:20):
and it was pretty bad back then. It still amazes
me that we can have the statistics we have on
schooling and somehow defend them as acceptable, and even those
who rightly don't defend them as acceptable because they aren't.
They then somehow still defend the status quo if only
it had more money, And that's education in this country.
Isn't it performing poorly and the sole solution is always
less teacher time and more money. Charter schools are not
(04:43):
for everybody. They don't claim to be. All they claim
to be is a recognition that a one stop shop
is not the only way to do things, and a
one stop shop does not fit all because it indisputably doesn't.
Few aspects of our lives revolve around no choice markets
and things, whether services or goods, evolve based on demand.
Our needs vary. Why is it so hard to understand
(05:04):
that it's no different in schools. I hated school personally.
My guess is probably would have achieved more in a
different environment communities and he is an irony one of
the biggest fans of charter schools. You know who, Mari
Communities no better than the ministry of education. Not every
bright idea comes out of Wellington. Charter schools are held
to account in attendance, finances and results, and indeed in
(05:26):
a more rigorous way than the public schools. The demand
outstripped supply on application are put simply, if they work,
if there is a demand, if some kids prosper, how
can you possibly talk them down?
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Just trying to think if there'd been a school that
was tailored specifically to my personal needs, whether I would
have enjoyed it more. Just trying to figure out what
those needs were exactly. I know that it was. I
felt like what I needed wasn't what they were serving,
but the one I was at, that's for damn sure.
(06:01):
Maybe just maybe everything that I ended up being was
because of that. That's an existential thought, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
M rewrap.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Actually, we're going to stay with education a little bit
longer because this ethnistic, it's racially based aut travel policy.
We get extra credits if you're the right race. It's
been under scrutiny on the show anyway for a while now,
(06:33):
and they're not making they're not helping themselves aut with
this Palm.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Jeep Palm is still on to the business of the
AUT and their racist policy around travel expenses. Her latest
is an email she's writing to the various people at AUT.
I found your email address on the AUT website, so
I hope I don't mind you contacting me contacting you
this way. I've recently been seeing AUT's points system for
(06:58):
travel funding. This is where you get extra points if
you're MARI, which is designed to fund disproportionately allocated towards
travel for MARI and Pacific staff for researchers. I'm interested
in the views of AUT staff, so all that's fine.
Then she ends the email. I also understand that AUT
staff who are members of the union have received an
(07:18):
email from the union's branch president requesting they do not
reply to my correspondence. This is disappointing, no kidding, and
that's the way that unions operate in this country. Heaven forbid,
you should ask a question, and Heaven for bid you
should feel free enough to respond. But no, we don't
like democracy and the free flow of ideas. So palme
(07:40):
jet's on it, and good on her.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Wow that had to turn a storm and a teacup
into a bubbling sparple. No, analogy didn't work either. So
not only can I not decide whether I'm going to
say ethnically or ethnicity, but my analogies have gone. This
is because I only got about three hours sleep last
night because I went to Matilda the show. You should go.
(08:04):
It's great, but I don't know if you should go
on a weeknight. If your alarm goes off. It two
fifty two am.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
The rewrap.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Now let's see if this next that will keep me
awake and I hang on. It's about capital gains tax
and banking.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Mike, A number of progressive countries don't have a CGT.
The A and Z CEO can easily afford to CGT,
but she hasn't obviously thought it out properly and as
part and apart from being annoying and annoying a lot
of amz's customers, this would obviously impact bottom line profits
for the banks, as it would take a lot of
money out of the system. Phil, you make an interesting point.
So potentially, and if you've missed this, Antonia who runs
(08:40):
the A and Z, came out yesterday and she said
the time is right for a CGT in this country.
And I'll tell you what I like about that. I
like it well, she's wrong, obviously, but I like the
fact she's got an opinion. And I told her a
person who was running a bank once and we're in
a meeting, and I said, I'll tell you what, if
you want a piece of advice, take it or leave it.
As it turns out, the person left it. I said,
what the banking sector needs is a spokesperson. Is a
(09:03):
go to is somebody you can ring on a regular basis.
It's like economics. When you want somebody to go to Bradley, right,
you go to Bradley It informetrics. Is Bradley available, Yes
he is. Is he on the phone, Yes he is.
Can he help you out, yes he can. Does he
speak in plain English? Yes he does. I said, what
the banking industry needs is a go to person who's
readily available, who can come on and talk to people
(09:23):
and explain things the way they see it from a
bank's perspective, because the bank's industry, the industry in general's
got a fairly poor reputation in terms of communication. So
I congratulate in Tonia for coming out and having an
opinion on something, and good on her for having an opinion.
And she must have known when she said it wouldn't
necessarily be popular with everybody, and she must have expected
potentially some pushback, but nevertheless she stood up, she said something,
(09:46):
and she stands by it, And good on her and
more people and I learned this lesson, particularly in COVID,
where so many people at the upper echelons of business
in this country lost their spine, forgot where their balls
were and never had an opinion, and never came out,
never said a damn thing about what was unfolding in
front of our very eyes. So good on her for
going public with that.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
There is nothing worse than forgetting where your balls are.
And you know, I didn't realize that was a symptom
of COVID. It doesn't surprise me. There's a lot of
brain fog issues. This is just sleep deprivation. I want
to make that quite clear. The rewrap and I can't
be playing for the reception issues that some people were
(10:26):
experiencing this morning either.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Mike, we're an utterphi five minutes from the city. As
a Nelson have spoken to numerous textas. We cannot get
you on FM. Would like to put you through the soundbar.
You're not the only one I'm in fung array. Using
my trusty twenty year old stereo, I cannot get you
on FM. It's not good enough. I need to do
something about this before I retire. It's impossible to get
(10:48):
the full HOSK along the Capity coast on the FM.
Possibly get the engineers to check their antenor alignment or
install a repeater. I'm getting a repeater in the barn
in the country. By the way, that's an exercise. I
didn't realize it was quite I was full on starlink
and the starlink I can see from the barn. I
can see the starlink. If I can see the starlink,
(11:09):
surely I can get a bit of signal into the barn.
And yet I can't. So I'm having to.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Get a what would I be get It's because a
repeating Neither the dish that you're looking at, nor you
as a person, Yes, neither of those things are met
Wi FI. So I would hope that I know. Actually
you got vaccinated, didn't you, So you probably don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
I am imagining something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it could be
just for years.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
So I mean, if you do want to put the
show through the soundbar, most sound bars these days you
can enable with a like a virtual assistant Alexa or
you know, Google Home or Siri something like that, and
so you just ask it to play news to ZB
and as long as you connect to the internet, you'll
get us. Well, you wouldn't do that, you want it
(11:59):
in the sound bar anyway. Probably nobody's going to hear
this now anyway, because I've probably it's been bare now
because of spreading vaccine misinformation, which of course was a
joke for I mean, I probably do admit blue tooth
(12:22):
and Wi Fi signals, but it's only because I've played
with so many different gadgets who, of course in the
day love them. So that's a whole other thing. You know.
I'm going to stop talking now and see if i
can go home, go to sleep, and I'll wake up
right nearly again tomorrow. Be back here, pushy tail, whatever
that means.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
For more from News Talks d B. Listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcast on iHeartRadio.
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