October 7, 2024 • 11 mins
THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Tuesday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) And What's Changed?/Paid Like a PM/The Reset Is Already On/Breaking Through In the Wrong Way
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk SEDB. Follow
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
Rerapoda there and welcome to the rewrap for Tuesday. All
the best but's from the mic hosting breakfast on news
Talks 'd be and a sillier package. I am Glenn Hart,
and today we're going to talk PM pay both here
and in the UK.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Do they get paid too much? Not enough? Should other
people get paid more or less than them? Complicated business?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Actually, while we're in the UK, it turns out the
Labor Party is just finding it hard to get things
going quite as well as they wanted to, so they're
having a reset. Meanwhile, in the US they're having a
breakthrough or a breakthrough poll at least. Michael explain what
that means at the end of the pod. But first up,
it's October seven, as I record this in most places
(01:05):
in the world still, and that's an anniversary that I
guess they'd rather not be commemorating.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
So I guess the first thing to say about marking
the one year anniversary of the Hamas attack is why
do we always mark one year, especially when it comes
to terror or wars? I mean, what's the difference one year,
one month, three years. Does it make it any better
or worse, more or less significant? So observations I've made
well won. I think I was right when the war
broke out, and given I said at the time, there
is no difference to the last or the one before,
or the one before or the one before. The hate
(01:32):
hasn't changed the view and the outlook hasn't changed. The
sides haven't changed. I do note our bandwidth has been tested.
The original war Ukraine is not mentioned anywhere near the
way it used to be. The Middle East has taken precedence.
We seem capable. All the editors who put together the
coverage seem to think we're incapable of more than one war.
Apparently the media as always a bias towards the Palestinians,
(01:54):
as they have always been, which is not to side,
of course, with Israel at all. It's just to point
out the go to stance the media has always taken
to is to walk through rubble or show some homeless
or some blood or some pleading doctors. Doesn't mean their
plight isn't real or urgent. It's just one sided. Another
observation we seem to have been lucky here. Some of
the angst and the anger that the Australians, for example,
(02:14):
have scene hasn't arrived here. Yes, we've had the old protest,
but not really in large numbers, and you never really
got the sense it was growing in spirit. It seems
to have been the same old Pickacall's rabble. The UN
has failed, as it always does. Geeterists saying it must
stop now really has never been, nor is it now
any effective means of diplomacy. Anthony Blincoln deserves a medal.
(02:35):
You can't claim he hasn't worked as butt off trying
to sort it all out. But given its presidential year
in America, and given it's not just Israel v Hamas
but Israel v Hesbalah, and it's in Lebanon and it's
in Iran now you can probably point a figure towards
the White House and say Biden's failed. The problem today
is the problem it's always been. Of course, was Netnya
who justified to respond, yes, was he ever going to
(02:57):
get rid of Hamas or Hebla?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Though?
Speaker 1 (02:59):
No?
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Was he ever going to stop Iran wanting Israel wiped
off the map?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
No?
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Will this come to an end eventually. Yes, how I
don't know, but this is indistinguishable from every other time
this lot go at each other. So marking twelve months
means nothing.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Jeez, that's a depressing thought if you're listening to that
and you know you're somehow connected more directly to this
conflict that it's been going on for a year, and
yet it still means nothing.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
But he might be right.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Rewrap Okay, So yeah, we've got PM pay questions both
here and in the UK.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Is this just envy? What's going on?
Speaker 4 (03:39):
I was going to suggest we're a bit petty in
this country, but I've been saved, fortunately by the bricks.
They're having a couple of debates over money at the moment.
One's involving a woman called Sue Gray who's quit, and
the other is over the role of Cabinet Secretary, which
is the country's top civil servant, a job which is
currently vacant given the incumbent step down for health reason.
Sue Gray, as it turns out, was any more than
the Prime Minister, which, for reasons I'm not entirely sure about,
(04:01):
needed to be turned into a scrap. There are plenty
of civil servants here of course, who are in more
than the Prime minister. We don't seem to have a
problem with that, but we don't like it. It appears
that the pms are a little bit wealthy. But I'll
come back to that. The Cabinet Secretary in Britain has
paid a couple of hundred thousand dollars a year, and
a bloke called Lord O'Donnell, who used to do it,
is busy running a campaign arguing it's grossly underpaid. As
(04:22):
for Miss Gray, she was on one hundred and seventy
thousand dollars a year the Prime minister's one hundred and
sixty six. When this was revealed she became a distraction
so quit. Ironically, she's got a new job that no
one seems to understand what it means, which is one
of the ironies of this whole jealousy driven nonsense. Would
you rather a person in a high performance role get
(04:42):
more in a job that you understand, or they get
less than a job that you've got no idea just
what it is they do. But because it isn't more
than the Prime minister, that then looks okay. The fact
that they may or may not do anything is beside
the point which brings us back to the current prime
minister here, who, because he sold a couple of rentals,
is clearly far too wealthy, so we need a good
(05:03):
bitch about that as well. The fact the National Party
prime minister before the current one was a mile more
wealthy again never really seemed to bother anybody. So maybe
it's this post COVID cost of living anks that's got
so many people upset at the moment. If you want
something to exercise yourself with, how about the prime minister
who ran the country into the ground then scarpet to
write a book and wander around the speaking circuit, creaming
(05:26):
it by making money from her ineptitude and subsequent economic misfortune.
What's worse a civil servant working god knows how many
hours for two hundred thousand dollars a year, a prime
minister in New Zealand on four hundred and eighty four
thousand dollars a year, but a couple of properties he
made money on, or or a fly by nighter who
came second in one election locked us down for the second,
buggeted up in record fashion, fled to make a fortune
(05:48):
telling people how kind she is. See some people in
jobs are worth the money, some aren't. But jealousy is
a waste of a motion.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
I see the president of the United States gets four
hundred thousand, it's not bad and there actually comes with
a fifty thousand dollar expense account as well. So if
you can justify it's nearly half a million. Running back, Cluster,
Cluster nearly said a bad word there of a country,
(06:15):
it's still probably not enough rewrap. Okay, So as we
were just mentioning back there a few minutes ago, s
Kia Starma and his crowd of finding that going a
little bit tougher than that anticipated.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
So they're having to rethink how they're doing some things.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
What is it with labor governments? Elban easy first term government,
every chance of losing next year, and Britain's got the
same problem. One hundred days in there doing a reset
literally as we speak, they are resetting their government's agenda.
Are one hundred days in poll out this morning on
Starma he now sits at minus thirty three. Rushi they
thought was bad at minus twenty six. Starmer's now minus
(06:52):
thirty three, which is a drop of forty four points
since he won the election. So what they're looking at now.
They got the budget coming up and that's a disaster
as well. Value added tax on private school fees. They're
rethinking that because they don't think that they can get
it implemented in time. They're reconsidering a planned overhaul of
the tax regime for non doms that's the foreigners, because
(07:14):
all the non doms are going to leave the country
and they don't even think they'll get the money they
thought they were going to get the first place. Also,
proposals to close loophole on carried interest that's sort of
private EQ when he don't worry about that. But anyway,
that's been looked at again because Treasury has had a
look at that and they say that could end up
costing the chancell of money instead of actually saving money.
So all of this was part of a big promise.
(07:36):
They were going to raise about nine billion dollars out
of all of this, and then they were going to
hire six and a half thousand new teachers, forty thousand
more operations scans and appointments in eight and a half
thousand new mental health staff. But given they're getting none
of that, and they've been accepting freebies from Lord R.
Lee in the form of suits and glasses. Things have
gone a bit pair shak.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
I've got to say I'd be tempted if somebody offer
me free glasses. They're just those things that you feel like,
I stre way more expensive than they need to be,
Like the frames, especially, why do they cost so much
you get I mean, you can get cheap ones that
look super uncool.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
If you want to look even.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Remotely cool, you pay through the nose, which that's true
of a lot of fashion, isn't it. I don't really
understand it.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
You may be surprised to hear it's the rewrap.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I feel like Mike has been particularly obsessed with the
polling this US election. It seems to be updating the
various different polls daily, even though they all got it
wrong a couple of elections ago. But anyway, he's found
another one to talk about.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
To this the Breakthrough. So this is a polling project
in the States as regards the American election, and the
big trend is that there are more and more Americans
who are not hearing what Harris says. So I mentioned
before the news the word lie. They're increasingly associating the
word lie with Harris. Obviously they've associated it with Trump
for a sustained period of time, the fourth most mentioned
(09:01):
word after border, polls and campaign. They worry about who's
saying nothing issues like immigration and the economy later started
makes a notable or marxan noticeable shift and responses about
Harris herself on those issues. Most mentions for immigration related
words in relation to her campaign since she entered the
(09:21):
race in late July. Now, she doesn't want the attention
drawn to things like immigration and the economy. As Nick
was trying to point out earlier on what they were
hoping to talk about was abortion, the female vote and abortion,
Roe v. Wade, the Supreme Court, the Trump appointments. That
was their campaign because they don't have a lot to
say on the economy, which is a weird thing because
the economy, if you look at the feed and follow
(09:42):
the FED, seem to have managed, unlike US, a soft landing.
So if you look at the paperwork, it looks reasonably
good and the job numbers the other day. There's nothing
really to moan about in terms of the American economy,
all things being equal, But they don't want to talk
about the economy, and they certainly don't want to talk
about immigration because they're weak on that. They want to
talk about abortion. So people are seeing her all marking
(10:03):
her down increasingly. But on Trump's side of the equation,
the assassination to take remain prominent. As far as what
people are hearing about Trump or thinking about Trump, immigrations
faded a little bit. His meeting with Zelensky last week
is in play. Still at the moment, a lot of
people think he's a liar. Sixty four percent reported seeing, reading,
(10:25):
or hearing something about Harris in the past week. Now
that's significant because the week before it was sixty eight,
So it's gone from sixty eight to sixty four. So
the main point being the trend developing is fewer and
fewer people are following what's going on. In other words,
the inferences they've made up their mind. They're not following
the story. So fourth week in which more people reported
(10:48):
hearing about Trump more than they heard or reported hearing
about Harris, and that if you're in a campaign for
your life, is the last bit of information you want
to hear. Interesting.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Yes, As a result of that, she's gone on a
bit of a media blitz in the last few days.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Howard Stern time, I think.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
And something called She's the Daddy, which is a podcast
which I don't know anything about, and I don't think
I want to.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
I don't understand why it's called that. I'm sure there's
a good reason.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I saw some vision of her sitting in a chair
a really weirdly long distance away from the host of
that podcast, that She's the Daddy podcast. Why if you
go and check it out, find it once about. I
am Glen Hart. I am the host of the Rewrap.
That's what you've just been listening to, and you can
do that again tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
I'll see you there.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
For more from News Talks at b Listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcast on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk SEDB. Follow
this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Rerapoda there and welcome to the rewrap for Tuesday. All
the best but's from the mic hosting breakfast on news
Talks 'd be and a sillier package. I am Glenn Hart,
and today we're going to talk PM pay both here
and in the UK.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Do they get paid too much? Not enough? Should other
people get paid more or less than them? Complicated business?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Actually, while we're in the UK, it turns out the
Labor Party is just finding it hard to get things
going quite as well as they wanted to, so they're
having a reset. Meanwhile, in the US they're having a
breakthrough or a breakthrough poll at least. Michael explain what
that means at the end of the pod. But first up,
it's October seven, as I record this in most places
(01:05):
in the world still, and that's an anniversary that I
guess they'd rather not be commemorating.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
So I guess the first thing to say about marking
the one year anniversary of the Hamas attack is why
do we always mark one year, especially when it comes
to terror or wars? I mean, what's the difference one year,
one month, three years. Does it make it any better
or worse, more or less significant? So observations I've made
well won. I think I was right when the war
broke out, and given I said at the time, there
is no difference to the last or the one before,
or the one before or the one before. The hate
(01:32):
hasn't changed the view and the outlook hasn't changed. The
sides haven't changed. I do note our bandwidth has been tested.
The original war Ukraine is not mentioned anywhere near the
way it used to be. The Middle East has taken precedence.
We seem capable. All the editors who put together the
coverage seem to think we're incapable of more than one war.
Apparently the media as always a bias towards the Palestinians,
(01:54):
as they have always been, which is not to side,
of course, with Israel at all. It's just to point
out the go to stance the media has always taken
to is to walk through rubble or show some homeless
or some blood or some pleading doctors. Doesn't mean their
plight isn't real or urgent. It's just one sided. Another
observation we seem to have been lucky here. Some of
the angst and the anger that the Australians, for example,
(02:14):
have scene hasn't arrived here. Yes, we've had the old protest,
but not really in large numbers, and you never really
got the sense it was growing in spirit. It seems
to have been the same old Pickacall's rabble. The UN
has failed, as it always does. Geeterists saying it must
stop now really has never been, nor is it now
any effective means of diplomacy. Anthony Blincoln deserves a medal.
(02:35):
You can't claim he hasn't worked as butt off trying
to sort it all out. But given its presidential year
in America, and given it's not just Israel v Hamas
but Israel v Hesbalah, and it's in Lebanon and it's
in Iran now you can probably point a figure towards
the White House and say Biden's failed. The problem today
is the problem it's always been. Of course, was Netnya
who justified to respond, yes, was he ever going to
(02:57):
get rid of Hamas or Hebla?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Though?
Speaker 1 (02:59):
No?
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Was he ever going to stop Iran wanting Israel wiped
off the map?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
No?
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Will this come to an end eventually. Yes, how I
don't know, but this is indistinguishable from every other time
this lot go at each other. So marking twelve months
means nothing.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Jeez, that's a depressing thought if you're listening to that
and you know you're somehow connected more directly to this
conflict that it's been going on for a year, and
yet it still means nothing.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
But he might be right.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Rewrap Okay, So yeah, we've got PM pay questions both
here and in the UK.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Is this just envy? What's going on?
Speaker 4 (03:39):
I was going to suggest we're a bit petty in
this country, but I've been saved, fortunately by the bricks.
They're having a couple of debates over money at the moment.
One's involving a woman called Sue Gray who's quit, and
the other is over the role of Cabinet Secretary, which
is the country's top civil servant, a job which is
currently vacant given the incumbent step down for health reason.
Sue Gray, as it turns out, was any more than
the Prime Minister, which, for reasons I'm not entirely sure about,
(04:01):
needed to be turned into a scrap. There are plenty
of civil servants here of course, who are in more
than the Prime minister. We don't seem to have a
problem with that, but we don't like it. It appears
that the pms are a little bit wealthy. But I'll
come back to that. The Cabinet Secretary in Britain has
paid a couple of hundred thousand dollars a year, and
a bloke called Lord O'Donnell, who used to do it,
is busy running a campaign arguing it's grossly underpaid. As
(04:22):
for Miss Gray, she was on one hundred and seventy
thousand dollars a year the Prime minister's one hundred and
sixty six. When this was revealed she became a distraction
so quit. Ironically, she's got a new job that no
one seems to understand what it means, which is one
of the ironies of this whole jealousy driven nonsense. Would
you rather a person in a high performance role get
(04:42):
more in a job that you understand, or they get
less than a job that you've got no idea just
what it is they do. But because it isn't more
than the Prime minister, that then looks okay. The fact
that they may or may not do anything is beside
the point which brings us back to the current prime
minister here, who, because he sold a couple of rentals,
is clearly far too wealthy, so we need a good
(05:03):
bitch about that as well. The fact the National Party
prime minister before the current one was a mile more
wealthy again never really seemed to bother anybody. So maybe
it's this post COVID cost of living anks that's got
so many people upset at the moment. If you want
something to exercise yourself with, how about the prime minister
who ran the country into the ground then scarpet to
write a book and wander around the speaking circuit, creaming
(05:26):
it by making money from her ineptitude and subsequent economic misfortune.
What's worse a civil servant working god knows how many
hours for two hundred thousand dollars a year, a prime
minister in New Zealand on four hundred and eighty four
thousand dollars a year, but a couple of properties he
made money on, or or a fly by nighter who
came second in one election locked us down for the second,
buggeted up in record fashion, fled to make a fortune
(05:48):
telling people how kind she is. See some people in
jobs are worth the money, some aren't. But jealousy is
a waste of a motion.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
I see the president of the United States gets four
hundred thousand, it's not bad and there actually comes with
a fifty thousand dollar expense account as well. So if
you can justify it's nearly half a million. Running back, Cluster,
Cluster nearly said a bad word there of a country,
(06:15):
it's still probably not enough rewrap. Okay, So as we
were just mentioning back there a few minutes ago, s
Kia Starma and his crowd of finding that going a
little bit tougher than that anticipated.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
So they're having to rethink how they're doing some things.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
What is it with labor governments? Elban easy first term government,
every chance of losing next year, and Britain's got the
same problem. One hundred days in there doing a reset
literally as we speak, they are resetting their government's agenda.
Are one hundred days in poll out this morning on
Starma he now sits at minus thirty three. Rushi they
thought was bad at minus twenty six. Starmer's now minus
(06:52):
thirty three, which is a drop of forty four points
since he won the election. So what they're looking at now.
They got the budget coming up and that's a disaster
as well. Value added tax on private school fees. They're
rethinking that because they don't think that they can get
it implemented in time. They're reconsidering a planned overhaul of
the tax regime for non doms that's the foreigners, because
(07:14):
all the non doms are going to leave the country
and they don't even think they'll get the money they
thought they were going to get the first place. Also,
proposals to close loophole on carried interest that's sort of
private EQ when he don't worry about that. But anyway,
that's been looked at again because Treasury has had a
look at that and they say that could end up
costing the chancell of money instead of actually saving money.
So all of this was part of a big promise.
(07:36):
They were going to raise about nine billion dollars out
of all of this, and then they were going to
hire six and a half thousand new teachers, forty thousand
more operations scans and appointments in eight and a half
thousand new mental health staff. But given they're getting none
of that, and they've been accepting freebies from Lord R.
Lee in the form of suits and glasses. Things have
gone a bit pair shak.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
I've got to say I'd be tempted if somebody offer
me free glasses. They're just those things that you feel like,
I stre way more expensive than they need to be,
Like the frames, especially, why do they cost so much
you get I mean, you can get cheap ones that
look super uncool.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
If you want to look even.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Remotely cool, you pay through the nose, which that's true
of a lot of fashion, isn't it. I don't really
understand it.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
You may be surprised to hear it's the rewrap.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I feel like Mike has been particularly obsessed with the
polling this US election. It seems to be updating the
various different polls daily, even though they all got it
wrong a couple of elections ago. But anyway, he's found
another one to talk about.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
To this the Breakthrough. So this is a polling project
in the States as regards the American election, and the
big trend is that there are more and more Americans
who are not hearing what Harris says. So I mentioned
before the news the word lie. They're increasingly associating the
word lie with Harris. Obviously they've associated it with Trump
for a sustained period of time, the fourth most mentioned
(09:01):
word after border, polls and campaign. They worry about who's
saying nothing issues like immigration and the economy later started
makes a notable or marxan noticeable shift and responses about
Harris herself on those issues. Most mentions for immigration related
words in relation to her campaign since she entered the
(09:21):
race in late July. Now, she doesn't want the attention
drawn to things like immigration and the economy. As Nick
was trying to point out earlier on what they were
hoping to talk about was abortion, the female vote and abortion,
Roe v. Wade, the Supreme Court, the Trump appointments. That
was their campaign because they don't have a lot to
say on the economy, which is a weird thing because
the economy, if you look at the feed and follow
(09:42):
the FED, seem to have managed, unlike US, a soft landing.
So if you look at the paperwork, it looks reasonably
good and the job numbers the other day. There's nothing
really to moan about in terms of the American economy,
all things being equal, But they don't want to talk
about the economy, and they certainly don't want to talk
about immigration because they're weak on that. They want to
talk about abortion. So people are seeing her all marking
(10:03):
her down increasingly. But on Trump's side of the equation,
the assassination to take remain prominent. As far as what
people are hearing about Trump or thinking about Trump, immigrations
faded a little bit. His meeting with Zelensky last week
is in play. Still at the moment, a lot of
people think he's a liar. Sixty four percent reported seeing, reading,
(10:25):
or hearing something about Harris in the past week. Now
that's significant because the week before it was sixty eight,
So it's gone from sixty eight to sixty four. So
the main point being the trend developing is fewer and
fewer people are following what's going on. In other words,
the inferences they've made up their mind. They're not following
the story. So fourth week in which more people reported
(10:48):
hearing about Trump more than they heard or reported hearing
about Harris, and that if you're in a campaign for
your life, is the last bit of information you want
to hear. Interesting.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Yes, As a result of that, she's gone on a
bit of a media blitz in the last few days.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Howard Stern time, I think.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
And something called She's the Daddy, which is a podcast
which I don't know anything about, and I don't think
I want to.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
I don't understand why it's called that. I'm sure there's
a good reason.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I saw some vision of her sitting in a chair
a really weirdly long distance away from the host of
that podcast, that She's the Daddy podcast. Why if you
go and check it out, find it once about. I
am Glen Hart. I am the host of the Rewrap.
That's what you've just been listening to, and you can
do that again tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
I'll see you there.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
For more from News Talks at b Listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcast on iHeartRadio.
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