October 28, 2024 • 11 mins
THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Tuesday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) Never Look Gift Glasses In the Mouth/Not All School Is a Write-Off/Flocking to Hamilton/AI Myths Busted/Any Colour You Like as Long as it's Not Yellow
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from Newstalk SEDB. Follow this
and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Rewrap There it wasn't.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
The rewrap from Monday, All the best bets from the
my Casking Breakfast on Newstalk s EDB, and a sillier package.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
I'm Glenhart today a tribute to teachers. We'll find out where.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
The population growth is growing the most. We've got some
AI myths to bust, and we'll finish with another exciting
Apple launch. But before any of that, too many freebes
floating around, and it's causing consternation.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
Fresh off the back of the new Labor Prome, Minister
Sakia Stamer accepting free suits and glasses. But by the way,
is it just me? Or is accepting free glasses even
weirder than accepting a free suit? Anyway? The deputy leader
of the British Labor Party accepted a free apartment in
New York, which I can sort of understand a little
bit more readily. I mean, you're in New York. A
donor says, look, I've got a place in New York.
(01:12):
Why you stay there? You needed a place to stay? Anyway,
That sort of makes sense, whereas most people who need
reading glasses buy them for themselves. Anyway, Clothing's tricky to
the extent a spouse gets added to the mix, so
you're expected to look a certain way. It's expected you
can't turn up looking the same every time, so you
need more clothes than normal people. But where's the line
between an allowance and simply taking the mickey? MPs aren't
(01:34):
paid all that much, of course, here or in Britain
or in Australia, which is where in Australia they're Prime
Minister Anthony Albanez he now finds himself in his own
hole after revelations over the weekend he organized a bunch
of free upgrades on Quantas by allegedly going directly to
the then CEO Ellen Joyce. This was for personal travel
for himself and his family. I mean, obviously, as Prime
ministery flies at the front of the plane, if not
(01:55):
on an air force yet. But your son travels like
anybody else, or they do unless Dad's been on the
phone to the CEO. Now, how these people won think
this is normal, I've got no idea. And to how
they think they'll get away with it is beyond me.
Public life. Life these days is transparent. You can do
nothing without a snitch or a leak or a WhatsApp
going astray? Is it a labor thing? I was thinking
(02:16):
to myself over the weekends, this sort of a left
wing thing. I mean, how does Starmer and Elbow explain
freebies that you and I would never get? How do
they defend freebies from an already exalted position? I mean,
Backia Luxeen, you've got a bagging for doing nothing wrong,
apart from being successful enough to own a few houses.
What would we have done if he'd been upgrading himself
or accepting free suits? And Amanda turns up in new
(02:38):
I wear paid for by party supporters. Public service once
meant serving the public, not using your position to upgrade yourself,
whether it aviationally or sartorially.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Do you reckon?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Mike Hosking would be so disparaging about people getting free
glasses if he wore them himself and knew how much
they cod cost, and what a hassle it is he
does need.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Them, he just refuses to get them.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
A rewrap.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
I mean, while we're coming to the end of the
school year, apparently I thought it was only the end
of October, but anyway, and that means crisis for teachers,
but only the ones you like.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Out of our long weekend was spent buying three presents
for three teachers that our youngest deemed necessary to thank
them for the work and energy that they put into
her final year at school. And buying teachers gifts has
become a little bit of a thing. If you didn't
realize this and our experience of modern schooling, I mean,
I didn't buy my teacher or teachers a present. I
don't remember anyone else doing it either. Chocolates and bottles
(03:36):
of wine seemed to be the go to these days.
The worst example I've witnessed over the years was a
teacher telling her class how excited she was to receive
all her gifts later on that weekend. Not to forget obligations,
one thing deserving of it is entirely another. So in
the three cards, our daughter explains just what it is
the teachers have contributed to her final year, and in
those words is the reminder that there are those who
(03:58):
make a difference in our education systems. See. For all
the coverage that schooling gets, most of it isn't good.
The kids who don't turn up the kids that do
and fail the teachers. It can't be bothered the results
that shock, But like so much of the news, sadly
it doesn't paint the true picture or anywhere close to it.
Unlike the headlines. For example, most kids are actually fine
and they do well, and amid the myriad of teachers
(04:19):
on strike or unionized and miserable, are the ones that
love what they do and make a real difference to
young people's lives. Now, I'm not sure if it's representative,
but in our case, all three teachers are young women
about the same age, maybe late twenties, early thirties, experienced
enough to have a handle on what they're doing, but
not too experienced to have become jaded. They are loved
not just by our daughter, but all the students whose
(04:41):
lives they touch. Our daughter can very clearly articulate just
how she has benefited by having them in her life
and education. They're all enthusiastic, they're all available, above and beyond.
They all have tangibly improved the outcome of their students. Basically,
they are rock stars, and they are a reminder that
(05:01):
likes so much in life. The bad news is but
a small portion of the real story.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
I'd like to take it a step further because it
sounds like only good teachers get the presents and then
the useless ones don't get any I think we should
punish the useless teachers even more and make them a
weirdiness is because they might not know that it's happening.
But we should make them pay for the presents for
the good teachers, then.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Maybe they'd look their game wrap right.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
So, I think we've heard plenty of stories about how
the birth rates are down, especially in the Western world.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Ours are, but the population.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Is still just growing thanks to people coming here to live.
And when I say here, where exactly do I mean
the population?
Speaker 5 (05:44):
By the way, new stats out on Friday from the
Stats Department of all the people coming to the country,
of which there were ninety three, five hundred and increasing
the population. Half of them parked themselves in Auckland. So
the gap between Auckland and the rest of the country
in terms of population growth is continuing to grow. So
ninety three thousand arrived spread themselves around the country, but
(06:06):
forty four of those ninety three park themselves in Auckland.
Why Katos second strongest growth region in the country. Are
Nelson the slowest.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Hamilton are close second A and who can ressest the
allure of the city of Love.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
I asked you, I was there last weekend. It's just beautiful.
So rewraph twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
If you were ever at any doubt that it's the
year of AI, I don't know why, and maybe ask
an AIA to confirm it for you.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Is that all they're good for?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Though?
Speaker 5 (06:38):
Now there's business of AI with this company, look, I
list assist. I wish them well. The reason they're based
here but they're going to America is of course if
you look at the number of houses in America. But
here's the difference. So what they're saying is just say
it and the AI will find it for you. So
instead of going to one roof and typing in three bedrooms,
(06:58):
two bathrooms, you know, price between one million and one
point three million, and go search you just say that
and it will solve a problem for you. The obvious
extension to me for AI would be that you can
basically bespoke your house. But the problem with bespoking your
house is and a lot of people aren't seemed to
(07:19):
have work this out yet. AI is only as good
as the information at control, and if the information at
control isn't that good, then its response is never going
to be any better than it is, so you're never
going to be able to go I'd like all blue
houses with four bedrooms, three bathrooms, three hundred meters or
less from a school with at least half of those
(07:40):
bathrooms with gold taps, one bath tub, and a rain
shark head because of it less, of course, the real
estate agent has tagged that information specifically in each and
every listing that they do, which they are never going to.
Therefore AI will never know it's there. Therefore AI will
never be smart enough, sharp enough to get the listings
(08:02):
and the details in which you need. And no one
seems to understand that. But it's just another version of
what we already have. We somehow think it's going to
just change the world, and I suppose in certain areas
it may well, or at least has the potential to
do so. But in basic applications like this, unless you
feed it appropriately in the first place, it will never
(08:23):
regurgitate what it doesn't have, and it's not bright enough,
nor will it ever be bright enough to invent the regurgitation,
And second guess you as humans or will it? And
I suppose that is the quandaries.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Yeah, I mean, I guess a glorified Google Search does
save your time and make you more productive, So in
that regard, it's probably worth the upgrade.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
The rewrap.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Actually we're going to keep it.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
With AI artificial intelligence or Apple Intelligence, whichever you like.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
It is finally here trending.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Now with Chemist Wells keeping Kiwi's healthy all year round.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
I got Apple news. We've got some Apple Intelligence being
rolled out today. So you need the right device. Unfortunately,
so to get the Apple Intelligence, you need to have
the latest iPhone or iPad or or the all new iMac.
Speaker 7 (09:16):
The new iMac features a fresh new set of beautiful colors.
It has even more performance, and with Apple Intelligence, it's
the world's best on in one for AI one for AI.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
So the new iMac much faster, more powerful. But as
as my kermit esque friend alluded to some colors, it
comes in.
Speaker 6 (09:37):
A parade of new and playful colors that are more
beautiful than ever and it's so much fun to pick
the color that matches your vibe and add a pop
a personality to your home or workspeed.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
Honestly, do they can you. There must be a department
they sit there. If I say a pop of personality,
do I come across as a dick? No, not even
a little bit.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Well, I can think we know what color matches your vibe?
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Green, orange, pink, purple, blue, silver, and yellow? No, not yellow,
depends what sort of yellow it is.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
No, it doesn't. Nobody wants yellow.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
But well, sales would tell you that, wouldn't they wouldn't
they be able to go that we made ten million
iMacs and two people bought yellow, and therefore let's dump
the yellow. Isn't that what they do with cars? Now
here's my question. You can pre order your iMac at
twenty four hundred and ninety nine dollars. That strikes me
as a reasonable price because I think a little eyepad
you can pay just as much, can't you?
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Well, you can, it depends how much storage.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
And yeah, pad for Mac, pad for Mac Max seems
a bit of bang for buck than a Mac.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Well, you do get a beautiful large.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
Yeah, big screen, big screen with a big keyboard, and
you can look.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Important, and the color that matches your vibe.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
And a little popper personality or popper color? And what anyway,
if you want to order any of that. It's in
stores Friday week, that's this coming Friday, the friday after
this coming Friday. But if you had AI, but you
can pre.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Now on the website.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
Can you pre fill your boots fantastic?
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Oh you can laugh about it as much as you want,
my asking, but you know you want one the skinnier
than ever as well.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
The IMAX.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Ah, there's nothing that says well designed tech as much
as an iMac is there.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
It's just it's it's.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
It's the it's the precipice, it's the peak.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
And my fan fan Fangeling a little bit over over
the iMac I might be anyway, I am Glen Hart.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
I'll get myself under control and be back with you
again tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Send for more from News Talk said B. Listen live
on air or online, and keep our shows with you
wherever you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from Newstalk SEDB. Follow this
and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Rewrap There it wasn't.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
The rewrap from Monday, All the best bets from the
my Casking Breakfast on Newstalk s EDB, and a sillier package.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
I'm Glenhart today a tribute to teachers. We'll find out where.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
The population growth is growing the most. We've got some
AI myths to bust, and we'll finish with another exciting
Apple launch. But before any of that, too many freebes
floating around, and it's causing consternation.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
Fresh off the back of the new Labor Prome, Minister
Sakia Stamer accepting free suits and glasses. But by the way,
is it just me? Or is accepting free glasses even
weirder than accepting a free suit? Anyway? The deputy leader
of the British Labor Party accepted a free apartment in
New York, which I can sort of understand a little
bit more readily. I mean, you're in New York. A
donor says, look, I've got a place in New York.
(01:12):
Why you stay there? You needed a place to stay? Anyway,
That sort of makes sense, whereas most people who need
reading glasses buy them for themselves. Anyway, Clothing's tricky to
the extent a spouse gets added to the mix, so
you're expected to look a certain way. It's expected you
can't turn up looking the same every time, so you
need more clothes than normal people. But where's the line
between an allowance and simply taking the mickey? MPs aren't
(01:34):
paid all that much, of course, here or in Britain
or in Australia, which is where in Australia they're Prime
Minister Anthony Albanez he now finds himself in his own
hole after revelations over the weekend he organized a bunch
of free upgrades on Quantas by allegedly going directly to
the then CEO Ellen Joyce. This was for personal travel
for himself and his family. I mean, obviously, as Prime
ministery flies at the front of the plane, if not
(01:55):
on an air force yet. But your son travels like
anybody else, or they do unless Dad's been on the
phone to the CEO. Now, how these people won think
this is normal, I've got no idea. And to how
they think they'll get away with it is beyond me.
Public life. Life these days is transparent. You can do
nothing without a snitch or a leak or a WhatsApp
going astray? Is it a labor thing? I was thinking
(02:16):
to myself over the weekends, this sort of a left
wing thing. I mean, how does Starmer and Elbow explain
freebies that you and I would never get? How do
they defend freebies from an already exalted position? I mean,
Backia Luxeen, you've got a bagging for doing nothing wrong,
apart from being successful enough to own a few houses.
What would we have done if he'd been upgrading himself
or accepting free suits? And Amanda turns up in new
(02:38):
I wear paid for by party supporters. Public service once
meant serving the public, not using your position to upgrade yourself,
whether it aviationally or sartorially.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Do you reckon?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Mike Hosking would be so disparaging about people getting free
glasses if he wore them himself and knew how much
they cod cost, and what a hassle it is he
does need.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Them, he just refuses to get them.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
A rewrap.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
I mean, while we're coming to the end of the
school year, apparently I thought it was only the end
of October, but anyway, and that means crisis for teachers,
but only the ones you like.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Out of our long weekend was spent buying three presents
for three teachers that our youngest deemed necessary to thank
them for the work and energy that they put into
her final year at school. And buying teachers gifts has
become a little bit of a thing. If you didn't
realize this and our experience of modern schooling, I mean,
I didn't buy my teacher or teachers a present. I
don't remember anyone else doing it either. Chocolates and bottles
(03:36):
of wine seemed to be the go to these days.
The worst example I've witnessed over the years was a
teacher telling her class how excited she was to receive
all her gifts later on that weekend. Not to forget obligations,
one thing deserving of it is entirely another. So in
the three cards, our daughter explains just what it is
the teachers have contributed to her final year, and in
those words is the reminder that there are those who
(03:58):
make a difference in our education systems. See. For all
the coverage that schooling gets, most of it isn't good.
The kids who don't turn up the kids that do
and fail the teachers. It can't be bothered the results
that shock, But like so much of the news, sadly
it doesn't paint the true picture or anywhere close to it.
Unlike the headlines. For example, most kids are actually fine
and they do well, and amid the myriad of teachers
(04:19):
on strike or unionized and miserable, are the ones that
love what they do and make a real difference to
young people's lives. Now, I'm not sure if it's representative,
but in our case, all three teachers are young women
about the same age, maybe late twenties, early thirties, experienced
enough to have a handle on what they're doing, but
not too experienced to have become jaded. They are loved
not just by our daughter, but all the students whose
(04:41):
lives they touch. Our daughter can very clearly articulate just
how she has benefited by having them in her life
and education. They're all enthusiastic, they're all available, above and beyond.
They all have tangibly improved the outcome of their students. Basically,
they are rock stars, and they are a reminder that
(05:01):
likes so much in life. The bad news is but
a small portion of the real story.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
I'd like to take it a step further because it
sounds like only good teachers get the presents and then
the useless ones don't get any I think we should
punish the useless teachers even more and make them a
weirdiness is because they might not know that it's happening.
But we should make them pay for the presents for
the good teachers, then.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Maybe they'd look their game wrap right.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
So, I think we've heard plenty of stories about how
the birth rates are down, especially in the Western world.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Ours are, but the population.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Is still just growing thanks to people coming here to live.
And when I say here, where exactly do I mean
the population?
Speaker 5 (05:44):
By the way, new stats out on Friday from the
Stats Department of all the people coming to the country,
of which there were ninety three, five hundred and increasing
the population. Half of them parked themselves in Auckland. So
the gap between Auckland and the rest of the country
in terms of population growth is continuing to grow. So
ninety three thousand arrived spread themselves around the country, but
(06:06):
forty four of those ninety three park themselves in Auckland.
Why Katos second strongest growth region in the country. Are
Nelson the slowest.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Hamilton are close second A and who can ressest the
allure of the city of Love.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
I asked you, I was there last weekend. It's just beautiful.
So rewraph twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
If you were ever at any doubt that it's the
year of AI, I don't know why, and maybe ask
an AIA to confirm it for you.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Is that all they're good for?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Though?
Speaker 5 (06:38):
Now there's business of AI with this company, look, I
list assist. I wish them well. The reason they're based
here but they're going to America is of course if
you look at the number of houses in America. But
here's the difference. So what they're saying is just say
it and the AI will find it for you. So
instead of going to one roof and typing in three bedrooms,
(06:58):
two bathrooms, you know, price between one million and one
point three million, and go search you just say that
and it will solve a problem for you. The obvious
extension to me for AI would be that you can
basically bespoke your house. But the problem with bespoking your
house is and a lot of people aren't seemed to
(07:19):
have work this out yet. AI is only as good
as the information at control, and if the information at
control isn't that good, then its response is never going
to be any better than it is, so you're never
going to be able to go I'd like all blue
houses with four bedrooms, three bathrooms, three hundred meters or
less from a school with at least half of those
(07:40):
bathrooms with gold taps, one bath tub, and a rain
shark head because of it less, of course, the real
estate agent has tagged that information specifically in each and
every listing that they do, which they are never going to.
Therefore AI will never know it's there. Therefore AI will
never be smart enough, sharp enough to get the listings
(08:02):
and the details in which you need. And no one
seems to understand that. But it's just another version of
what we already have. We somehow think it's going to
just change the world, and I suppose in certain areas
it may well, or at least has the potential to
do so. But in basic applications like this, unless you
feed it appropriately in the first place, it will never
(08:23):
regurgitate what it doesn't have, and it's not bright enough,
nor will it ever be bright enough to invent the regurgitation,
And second guess you as humans or will it? And
I suppose that is the quandaries.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Yeah, I mean, I guess a glorified Google Search does
save your time and make you more productive, So in
that regard, it's probably worth the upgrade.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
The rewrap.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Actually we're going to keep it.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
With AI artificial intelligence or Apple Intelligence, whichever you like.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
It is finally here trending.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Now with Chemist Wells keeping Kiwi's healthy all year round.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
I got Apple news. We've got some Apple Intelligence being
rolled out today. So you need the right device. Unfortunately,
so to get the Apple Intelligence, you need to have
the latest iPhone or iPad or or the all new iMac.
Speaker 7 (09:16):
The new iMac features a fresh new set of beautiful colors.
It has even more performance, and with Apple Intelligence, it's
the world's best on in one for AI one for AI.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
So the new iMac much faster, more powerful. But as
as my kermit esque friend alluded to some colors, it
comes in.
Speaker 6 (09:37):
A parade of new and playful colors that are more
beautiful than ever and it's so much fun to pick
the color that matches your vibe and add a pop
a personality to your home or workspeed.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
Honestly, do they can you. There must be a department
they sit there. If I say a pop of personality,
do I come across as a dick? No, not even
a little bit.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Well, I can think we know what color matches your vibe?
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Green, orange, pink, purple, blue, silver, and yellow? No, not yellow,
depends what sort of yellow it is.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
No, it doesn't. Nobody wants yellow.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
But well, sales would tell you that, wouldn't they wouldn't
they be able to go that we made ten million
iMacs and two people bought yellow, and therefore let's dump
the yellow. Isn't that what they do with cars? Now
here's my question. You can pre order your iMac at
twenty four hundred and ninety nine dollars. That strikes me
as a reasonable price because I think a little eyepad
you can pay just as much, can't you?
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Well, you can, it depends how much storage.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
And yeah, pad for Mac, pad for Mac Max seems
a bit of bang for buck than a Mac.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Well, you do get a beautiful large.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
Yeah, big screen, big screen with a big keyboard, and
you can look.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Important, and the color that matches your vibe.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
And a little popper personality or popper color? And what anyway,
if you want to order any of that. It's in
stores Friday week, that's this coming Friday, the friday after
this coming Friday. But if you had AI, but you
can pre.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Now on the website.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
Can you pre fill your boots fantastic?
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Oh you can laugh about it as much as you want,
my asking, but you know you want one the skinnier
than ever as well.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
The IMAX.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Ah, there's nothing that says well designed tech as much
as an iMac is there.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
It's just it's it's.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
It's the it's the precipice, it's the peak.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
And my fan fan Fangeling a little bit over over
the iMac I might be anyway, I am Glen Hart.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
I'll get myself under control and be back with you
again tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Send for more from News Talk said B. Listen live
on air or online, and keep our shows with you
wherever you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
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