January 26, 2025 • 14 mins
THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Monday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) That's No Way to Run a Country/Are Teens Sicker?/Russia's Not Exactly On the Run/Hello? Is That Denmark?/The Welcome Mat's Out for Big Brother
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk Said. Be
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Therapy there and welcome to the rewrap for Monday, All
the best bits from the Mike Hosking Breakfast on News
Talk Said. Be in Aciliar package starring Ryan Bred for
the last time for quite some time.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
He wants to talk.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
About how healthy teen ages are these days, whether they're
better or worse off.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Than they used to be back in the good old days. Russia,
how are they getting on?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
There?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Must be terrible. Denmark was a little bit concerned.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
To get a call from Trump and what is a
universal idea?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
And do we want one?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
But before any of that, it's a new year for
the politicians. They're hawking into that Treaty Principles bill that's
definitely not going anywhere today.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
A bit of a pointless existence, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Twenty twenty five is shaping up to be a fantastic
year for political debate in this country. In the space
of twenty seven days, we have already got more politicians
debating more serious and credible policies to change the course
of our country's future than we had in the entire
six years of the previous government. And if that sounds
like a cherry thing to say on a Monday morning,
(01:31):
it's because it is Monday morning. And who wants to
listen to winging on a Monday. If it was Tuesday,
I would just tell you the cold, hard, miserable truth.
The latest update from HSBC senior economist Paul Bloxham. This
is the guy who spoke about our rockstar economy. New
Zealand's economy have the largest contraction in GDP in twenty
(01:51):
twenty four. Yes, we took the biggest hit in the
developed world last year. We all know this bad news.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
We felt it.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
It was money printing, high spending government inflation, then aggressive
interest rate hikes and then lights out a year of pain.
But that was then, and this is now the good
you so far in twenty twenty five. At least from
where I'm sitting. The arguments about tax and spend, borrow
and spend, spend more, get more, they are over. We're
(02:19):
now having genuine debates about the mix of state owned assets,
for example, that we own, why the hell do we
own them? Especially the ones making a loss. I've mentioned
Land Corp for a while now, but there are many others.
Luxen on this program last week open to the idea
of faster depreciation on machine assets purchased by businesses. This
would increase productivity, it would increase wages, it would increase growth,
(02:44):
all things that we desperately need. We're looking at PPPs
for infrastructure, cutting, red tape and regulation loosening foreign investment rules.
What about tax breaks for multinationals if we really want
to be like Ireland, because if we don't, the departure
a lounge at Auckland International Airport will only get more full.
Young people will only see opportunity elsewhere, and we will
(03:04):
become a backwater retirement village that no one with no
one left working to pay for the things that we
want to need, like healthcare. The biggest obstacle in the
way of government throwing dead weight overboard, taking unpopular but
necessary decisions to improve growth in making the Walker go
quicker is actually the composition of the government itself if
you think about it. And this is where we come in.
(03:26):
Nationals in the middle libertarian act on one side, and
then you've got the economic nationalism of New Zealand first
on the other. These are hard times and surely would
call for one direction on the economy, not three. At
next year's election, keywis need to need to pick a side,
and we need to do it in great numbers. Otherwise
(03:48):
we risk and are at risk of treading water muddling
through for another three years are three years we can
ill afford to waste?
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Isn't that what one of the m's and MMP stands for?
Meddling through? Isn't that what it's designed to do is
to create that sort of a government. I know Christopher
Larson thinks that he's kipping arms and fast tracking, but yeah,
when you've got two loose wheels spinning off in different directions, it's.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Not that easy, is it.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
We wrap So we were talking vaping today because they've
done a study on youth vaping and to see, you know,
how it is affecting the youth. But I think Ryan thinks,
all things considered, they've got it better off.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Our kids are healthier now than their parents were at
that age. I think it's a really interesting question to
ask because if you look at it, you know they're
probably adding a bit more processed food. They're probably doing
less physical exercise than their parents were when they were
at that age. They've probably got more mental health problems
than their parents did at that age. But then they're
smoking less. I mean, they're not smoking cigarettes. They might
(04:57):
be vaping, but that's slightly better for you. They're not
drinking as much booze.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
We're always told.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
So, is your average teenager right now healthier than the
appearance when they were teenagers?
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Are they still not having sex as well?
Speaker 4 (05:12):
They're still not having sex, so they're not. I mean,
there's no teen pregnancies, so that's changed. Not that that
makes you unhealthy, but I mean obviously has a big
impact on your life, doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Yeah? Do I don't know.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Interesting, I think it's give or take. I think it's
an interesting question to usk, like the researchers that do
all of this stuff, do they ever look at that,
you know, I know that as a species, we are
for the first time in the Western world, our life
expectancy is starting to come down because of all the
fast food and everything that we're eating. We're getting more
(05:45):
colon cancer and stuff like that. So for the first
time in modern history, our life expectancy is actually decreasing
in the Western world. But when it comes to teenagers
are they healthier.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah, I mean, if you have I guess it depends
how much sex you're having, because if you have a
lot of it with a lot of different people, I think.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
That can be hazardous to your health.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
But if you're just having a lot of it with
you know, only a few people.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
In what the benefits.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
I don't know why I got so obsessed about that
one small aspect of that discussion. Let's talk global affairs now.
I'm sure Russia has really been brought to heal now
in the wake of all these sanctions and tariffs, blah
blah Russia.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
How is Russia's economy still holding up? In fact, not
just holding up. Russia's economy in some ways is thriving.
It grew faster last year than the United States, faster
than all European countries, certainly faster than US, so that's
not hard. Unemployment there is at a record low. And
this is despite all the sanctions, all the threats, all
(06:50):
the tariffs, all the ostracizing and the excommunicating and tough
talk from the West over Ukraine. Russia's economy has basically
defied expectations. Does that not tell you that there's something
a bit buggered with the way that we punish rogue
states like that buggered as in, it doesn't work. Russia
(07:10):
started this war in twenty twenty two, it is twenty
twenty five. Shouldn't they be a little more wounded economically
than they are right now? Europe still gets for all
the bluster, still gets twenty percent of its gas from Russia.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
On oil.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
China and India have swooped in to take it off
Russia's hands. Even the Europeans are still buying Russian oil
by just doing it secondhand through India, where it's all
been refined. This is despite the EU price camp that
was designed to prevent this exact thing from happening. If
Russia can invade a sovereign country, grow its economy more
than ours, and carry on as if nothing's happened, surely
(07:46):
that's an indictment on the system itself. Right If China
tried to do something like this, do we expect that
the system would be able to contain them. The problem here,
of course, is globalization and the fact that we're also interconnected.
We rely on each other for raw materials, for goods
and services, and that's to make our own fortunes, and
no matter how much we say we're against some like war,
(08:10):
we're only really against it to a point, and that
point is keeping the lights on or the car running
inside our own borders. To be fair, Moscow does have
some big problems coming. As Trump has been saying over
the last week, we've been reporting on that. Inflation is high,
interest rates just hit twenty one percent. You thought we
had it bad, twenty one percent. They've got labor shortages,
(08:30):
there's signs of a credit bubble looming. And the fact
is that a lot of that growth has been jacked
up by defense spending. So Putin may need to make
a deal and come to the table sooner rather than later.
But how much of that is to do with the
West's sanctions is debatable.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I think to a degree, a country like Russia, or
indeed a country like China, they're kind of self sufficient
in many ways. And I think, you know, the example
there is yu Huawei and China. I mean, couldn't do
(09:09):
business with America anymore, but there's still plenty of business
to be done in China and with it's our eyes,
and still there still making billions of dollars. So although
I'm saying that Huawei as far as I can tell,
never actually did anything wrong in the first place.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Whereas Russia could.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
We argued doing a lot of wrongs.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
The rewrapping. Well.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Trump's you know, he was working away through his list
of things, and one of those things.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Was to give the the Danes a call.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
The Danes are pulling their hair out this morning and
Copenhagen they're having full meltdown.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
They had a call.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
This is the Danish Prime Minister, met Fredridson. She had
a call with Trump. I had him on the blur
over the weekend and apparently didn't go very well at all.
She's a social Democrat, so she's, you know, the other
side of politics to Trump. Can you just imagine how
that call went. He rings and says I'm buying Greenland.
Now she says no, or actually no. In Denmark and
(10:11):
Danish is NG, so it would have gone yes, ng, yes, ng,
yes ng back forth. They go The Financial Times reporting that,
according to five current and formulat former senior European officials
have been briefed on the call, the conversation was quote horrendous.
One person said he was very firm. It was a
cold shower before. It was hard to take it seriously,
(10:32):
but I do think it is serious and potentially very dangerous.
Another person briefed on the call said the intent was
very clear. They want it. The Danes are now in
crisis mode. The Danes are utterly freaked out by this.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yeah. I don't know about you, though, Ryan, I don't
really like talking on the phone.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
If you're a prime minister or a president. Sort of
a prerequisite, isn't it. You can't always be faced.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Is that why I'm not a prime minister or a president?
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Potentially, and for a radio guy, surely you'd spent a
lot of time on the phone, Glenn. Anyway, the reason
he wants Greenland is in Greenland, by the way, is
a bit like Scotland. It's not tom this region, but
it's it's politics, it's it's foreign affairs, et cetera. All
run out of Denmark, out of Copenhagen, a lot of oil,
(11:16):
a lot of gas, a lot of raw minerals, a
lot of raw minerals for green tech as well. Which
actually the more I talk about that, the more I
think it actually sounds a little bit like New Zealand,
just that we don't get the minerals out of the ground.
Maybe Trump will want to buy us. Maybe we should
put a full sale sign on our country.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Well, whoa whoa, whoa, whoa wah, whoa whoa.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I think my plan was just to keep my head
down for the next four years and hope that he
doesn't notice us.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
That seemed to work last time. It's the rewrap right,
we're going to finish up here. And now now.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
I've been following this in the US, I think it's
might be even up to fourteen states in the US
now they allow you to have your driver's license and
your your Apple wallet or your Google wallet, depending on which.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Cyber system you subscribed to. But they're going even further
than that. And then you apparently interesting.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Story out of the UK because I hate carrying a
driver's license around because it's annoying. I mean, who carries
cards anywhere these days? But in the UK they're going
to do away with that. They're starting a trial. This
is the government for an all inclusive app, so that
all of your government stuff will be in one place,
including your driver's license. If you've got a veterans card,
(12:30):
that's going to be on there as well, a digital
driver's license, and you know you'll scan your eyes or
do your retina or whatever it does these days for protection.
But you'll be able to do all sorts of things
on this app. Not to show the cops your license
when you're pulled over, but apply for childcare, you know,
report a loss or stolen passport, all sorts of different stuff.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
So I think that's a great idea and.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
I think we should do it here because it will
save us all a lot of time and energy. How
many different websites do you have to go to to
deal with the government in New Zealand seriously, to pay
your tax, to apply for this, to apply for that,
and then you add on the council stuff. I mean
you just there are a million tabs on your browser.
(13:14):
Imagine one place where you could go and get all
of that.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Toque all the tinfoil hat wearers, you're handing your identity
over to the government.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Well, they can wear their hats and go elsewhere. Have
your hundred tabs, wear your hats. I will go and
use the one app, Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Yeah, there's a lot of people to be interesting to
see how this goes. A lot of people in Britain
who know friends of class Rob and the IMF and
you know, fifteen minute cities, and it's all Big Brother
taking over, and I'm sure they will be more than
(13:51):
happy to lump this sort of the idea of a
universal id into the same boat. And then that ven
diagram intersected heavily with the people who think that, you know,
Bill Gates has put a chip in us.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Via the vaccine.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
So I think Ryan really opened a can of worms there,
and now he's gone to the host drive. He's just
left us with an open can of worms. Let's see
if Mike Hoskin can get the turn closed again tomorrow
when he joins us. He might need the help of
one of those those can openers to help with the
(14:30):
elderly use now that he's oulderly the sixty elderly.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Feel like it is.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
I feel like I can say that at a young,
thriving fifty one, I feel I can say that sixty
is really old. And there'll be many more jokes like
that as the year goes on. I'll see you back
here again with some of them tomorrow.
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Therapy there and welcome to the rewrap for Monday, All
the best bits from the Mike Hosking Breakfast on News
Talk Said. Be in Aciliar package starring Ryan Bred for
the last time for quite some time.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
He wants to talk.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
About how healthy teen ages are these days, whether they're
better or worse off.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Than they used to be back in the good old days. Russia,
how are they getting on?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
There?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Must be terrible. Denmark was a little bit concerned.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
To get a call from Trump and what is a
universal idea?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
And do we want one?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
But before any of that, it's a new year for
the politicians. They're hawking into that Treaty Principles bill that's
definitely not going anywhere today.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
A bit of a pointless existence, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Twenty twenty five is shaping up to be a fantastic
year for political debate in this country. In the space
of twenty seven days, we have already got more politicians
debating more serious and credible policies to change the course
of our country's future than we had in the entire
six years of the previous government. And if that sounds
like a cherry thing to say on a Monday morning,
(01:31):
it's because it is Monday morning. And who wants to
listen to winging on a Monday. If it was Tuesday,
I would just tell you the cold, hard, miserable truth.
The latest update from HSBC senior economist Paul Bloxham. This
is the guy who spoke about our rockstar economy. New
Zealand's economy have the largest contraction in GDP in twenty
(01:51):
twenty four. Yes, we took the biggest hit in the
developed world last year. We all know this bad news.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
We felt it.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
It was money printing, high spending government inflation, then aggressive
interest rate hikes and then lights out a year of pain.
But that was then, and this is now the good
you so far in twenty twenty five. At least from
where I'm sitting. The arguments about tax and spend, borrow
and spend, spend more, get more, they are over. We're
(02:19):
now having genuine debates about the mix of state owned assets,
for example, that we own, why the hell do we
own them? Especially the ones making a loss. I've mentioned
Land Corp for a while now, but there are many others.
Luxen on this program last week open to the idea
of faster depreciation on machine assets purchased by businesses. This
would increase productivity, it would increase wages, it would increase growth,
(02:44):
all things that we desperately need. We're looking at PPPs
for infrastructure, cutting, red tape and regulation loosening foreign investment rules.
What about tax breaks for multinationals if we really want
to be like Ireland, because if we don't, the departure
a lounge at Auckland International Airport will only get more full.
Young people will only see opportunity elsewhere, and we will
(03:04):
become a backwater retirement village that no one with no
one left working to pay for the things that we
want to need, like healthcare. The biggest obstacle in the
way of government throwing dead weight overboard, taking unpopular but
necessary decisions to improve growth in making the Walker go
quicker is actually the composition of the government itself if
you think about it. And this is where we come in.
(03:26):
Nationals in the middle libertarian act on one side, and
then you've got the economic nationalism of New Zealand first
on the other. These are hard times and surely would
call for one direction on the economy, not three. At
next year's election, keywis need to need to pick a side,
and we need to do it in great numbers. Otherwise
(03:48):
we risk and are at risk of treading water muddling
through for another three years are three years we can
ill afford to waste?
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Isn't that what one of the m's and MMP stands for?
Meddling through? Isn't that what it's designed to do is
to create that sort of a government. I know Christopher
Larson thinks that he's kipping arms and fast tracking, but yeah,
when you've got two loose wheels spinning off in different directions, it's.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Not that easy, is it.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
We wrap So we were talking vaping today because they've
done a study on youth vaping and to see, you know,
how it is affecting the youth. But I think Ryan thinks,
all things considered, they've got it better off.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Our kids are healthier now than their parents were at
that age. I think it's a really interesting question to
ask because if you look at it, you know they're
probably adding a bit more processed food. They're probably doing
less physical exercise than their parents were when they were
at that age. They've probably got more mental health problems
than their parents did at that age. But then they're
smoking less. I mean, they're not smoking cigarettes. They might
(04:57):
be vaping, but that's slightly better for you. They're not
drinking as much booze.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
We're always told.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
So, is your average teenager right now healthier than the
appearance when they were teenagers?
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Are they still not having sex as well?
Speaker 4 (05:12):
They're still not having sex, so they're not. I mean,
there's no teen pregnancies, so that's changed. Not that that
makes you unhealthy, but I mean obviously has a big
impact on your life, doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Yeah? Do I don't know.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Interesting, I think it's give or take. I think it's
an interesting question to usk, like the researchers that do
all of this stuff, do they ever look at that,
you know, I know that as a species, we are
for the first time in the Western world, our life
expectancy is starting to come down because of all the
fast food and everything that we're eating. We're getting more
(05:45):
colon cancer and stuff like that. So for the first
time in modern history, our life expectancy is actually decreasing
in the Western world. But when it comes to teenagers
are they healthier.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah, I mean, if you have I guess it depends
how much sex you're having, because if you have a
lot of it with a lot of different people, I think.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
That can be hazardous to your health.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
But if you're just having a lot of it with
you know, only a few people.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
In what the benefits.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
I don't know why I got so obsessed about that
one small aspect of that discussion. Let's talk global affairs now.
I'm sure Russia has really been brought to heal now
in the wake of all these sanctions and tariffs, blah
blah Russia.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
How is Russia's economy still holding up? In fact, not
just holding up. Russia's economy in some ways is thriving.
It grew faster last year than the United States, faster
than all European countries, certainly faster than US, so that's
not hard. Unemployment there is at a record low. And
this is despite all the sanctions, all the threats, all
(06:50):
the tariffs, all the ostracizing and the excommunicating and tough
talk from the West over Ukraine. Russia's economy has basically
defied expectations. Does that not tell you that there's something
a bit buggered with the way that we punish rogue
states like that buggered as in, it doesn't work. Russia
(07:10):
started this war in twenty twenty two, it is twenty
twenty five. Shouldn't they be a little more wounded economically
than they are right now? Europe still gets for all
the bluster, still gets twenty percent of its gas from Russia.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
On oil.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
China and India have swooped in to take it off
Russia's hands. Even the Europeans are still buying Russian oil
by just doing it secondhand through India, where it's all
been refined. This is despite the EU price camp that
was designed to prevent this exact thing from happening. If
Russia can invade a sovereign country, grow its economy more
than ours, and carry on as if nothing's happened, surely
(07:46):
that's an indictment on the system itself. Right If China
tried to do something like this, do we expect that
the system would be able to contain them. The problem here,
of course, is globalization and the fact that we're also interconnected.
We rely on each other for raw materials, for goods
and services, and that's to make our own fortunes, and
no matter how much we say we're against some like war,
(08:10):
we're only really against it to a point, and that
point is keeping the lights on or the car running
inside our own borders. To be fair, Moscow does have
some big problems coming. As Trump has been saying over
the last week, we've been reporting on that. Inflation is high,
interest rates just hit twenty one percent. You thought we
had it bad, twenty one percent. They've got labor shortages,
(08:30):
there's signs of a credit bubble looming. And the fact
is that a lot of that growth has been jacked
up by defense spending. So Putin may need to make
a deal and come to the table sooner rather than later.
But how much of that is to do with the
West's sanctions is debatable.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I think to a degree, a country like Russia, or
indeed a country like China, they're kind of self sufficient
in many ways. And I think, you know, the example
there is yu Huawei and China. I mean, couldn't do
(09:09):
business with America anymore, but there's still plenty of business
to be done in China and with it's our eyes,
and still there still making billions of dollars. So although
I'm saying that Huawei as far as I can tell,
never actually did anything wrong in the first place.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Whereas Russia could.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
We argued doing a lot of wrongs.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
The rewrapping. Well.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Trump's you know, he was working away through his list
of things, and one of those things.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Was to give the the Danes a call.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
The Danes are pulling their hair out this morning and
Copenhagen they're having full meltdown.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
They had a call.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
This is the Danish Prime Minister, met Fredridson. She had
a call with Trump. I had him on the blur
over the weekend and apparently didn't go very well at all.
She's a social Democrat, so she's, you know, the other
side of politics to Trump. Can you just imagine how
that call went. He rings and says I'm buying Greenland.
Now she says no, or actually no. In Denmark and
(10:11):
Danish is NG, so it would have gone yes, ng, yes, ng,
yes ng back forth. They go The Financial Times reporting that,
according to five current and formulat former senior European officials
have been briefed on the call, the conversation was quote horrendous.
One person said he was very firm. It was a
cold shower before. It was hard to take it seriously,
(10:32):
but I do think it is serious and potentially very dangerous.
Another person briefed on the call said the intent was
very clear. They want it. The Danes are now in
crisis mode. The Danes are utterly freaked out by this.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yeah. I don't know about you, though, Ryan, I don't
really like talking on the phone.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
If you're a prime minister or a president. Sort of
a prerequisite, isn't it. You can't always be faced.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Is that why I'm not a prime minister or a president?
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Potentially, and for a radio guy, surely you'd spent a
lot of time on the phone, Glenn. Anyway, the reason
he wants Greenland is in Greenland, by the way, is
a bit like Scotland. It's not tom this region, but
it's it's politics, it's it's foreign affairs, et cetera. All
run out of Denmark, out of Copenhagen, a lot of oil,
(11:16):
a lot of gas, a lot of raw minerals, a
lot of raw minerals for green tech as well. Which
actually the more I talk about that, the more I
think it actually sounds a little bit like New Zealand,
just that we don't get the minerals out of the ground.
Maybe Trump will want to buy us. Maybe we should
put a full sale sign on our country.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Well, whoa whoa, whoa, whoa wah, whoa whoa.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I think my plan was just to keep my head
down for the next four years and hope that he
doesn't notice us.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
That seemed to work last time. It's the rewrap right,
we're going to finish up here. And now now.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
I've been following this in the US, I think it's
might be even up to fourteen states in the US
now they allow you to have your driver's license and
your your Apple wallet or your Google wallet, depending on which.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Cyber system you subscribed to. But they're going even further
than that. And then you apparently interesting.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Story out of the UK because I hate carrying a
driver's license around because it's annoying. I mean, who carries
cards anywhere these days? But in the UK they're going
to do away with that. They're starting a trial. This
is the government for an all inclusive app, so that
all of your government stuff will be in one place,
including your driver's license. If you've got a veterans card,
(12:30):
that's going to be on there as well, a digital
driver's license, and you know you'll scan your eyes or
do your retina or whatever it does these days for protection.
But you'll be able to do all sorts of things
on this app. Not to show the cops your license
when you're pulled over, but apply for childcare, you know,
report a loss or stolen passport, all sorts of different stuff.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
So I think that's a great idea and.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
I think we should do it here because it will
save us all a lot of time and energy. How
many different websites do you have to go to to
deal with the government in New Zealand seriously, to pay
your tax, to apply for this, to apply for that,
and then you add on the council stuff. I mean
you just there are a million tabs on your browser.
(13:14):
Imagine one place where you could go and get all
of that.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Toque all the tinfoil hat wearers, you're handing your identity
over to the government.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Well, they can wear their hats and go elsewhere. Have
your hundred tabs, wear your hats. I will go and
use the one app, Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Yeah, there's a lot of people to be interesting to
see how this goes. A lot of people in Britain
who know friends of class Rob and the IMF and
you know, fifteen minute cities, and it's all Big Brother
taking over, and I'm sure they will be more than
(13:51):
happy to lump this sort of the idea of a
universal id into the same boat. And then that ven
diagram intersected heavily with the people who think that, you know,
Bill Gates has put a chip in us.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Via the vaccine.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
So I think Ryan really opened a can of worms there,
and now he's gone to the host drive. He's just
left us with an open can of worms. Let's see
if Mike Hoskin can get the turn closed again tomorrow
when he joins us. He might need the help of
one of those those can openers to help with the
(14:30):
elderly use now that he's oulderly the sixty elderly.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Feel like it is.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
I feel like I can say that at a young,
thriving fifty one, I feel I can say that sixty
is really old. And there'll be many more jokes like
that as the year goes on. I'll see you back
here again with some of them tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
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