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January 27, 2025 • 14 mins

THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Tuesday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) A Bit Long?/What Trump's Got Right/Three Waters, Back from the Underworld/Who Funds Those Jandals?/Whale Waste

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
Okay, there, welcome to the Rewrap for Tuesday. All the best,
but it's from the Mic Casking Breakfast on Newstalk EDB
and a sillier package. I am Glen Hearten. Today Mike
came back to hosts his own show, so that's refreshing.
He wanted to talk about Donald Trump's first week in office.

(00:46):
There enough. He also brought up three waters again. I
don't know why he's done that, but we'll find out shortly.
Is there actually any opposition to the government right now?
And where already the government has found quite a lot
of waste. I'm talking about bureaucratic budget free white waste,

(01:06):
not actual waste. But before any of that, how is
this holiday now?

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Welcome to the seventeenth year of the Mike Hosking Breakfast.
Seventeenth year. I suppose the first thing is I could
apologize for my long holiday. Eight weeks in the end
is said a bit long, Katie tells me from social
media feedback, many of you think so, so I'm sorry
about that. Upside is I don't take a lot of
leave during the year, so there's a lot of me
from here on in if that's a good thing. Long

(01:30):
holidays for me are also in exercise. As I've told
you before, Do I want to retire? Can I get
used to not getting up through two thirty in the morning?
Is lazing away day after day with an odd chure
tossed in the future. No, As it turns out, I
remain here simply because I love it. So some of
the stories we will talk about this week. I started collecting,
if you can believe it, before Christmas, so kind of

(01:50):
on holiday. But it's still a bit tragic. Really can't
let go of the work. There's something wrong with that,
isn't there? Anyway? I didn't like the moaning over the weather.
Holidays aren't about the weather entirely. They're about rest and
rejuvenation and thinking and contemplation. Having said that I had
perfect weather, I thought I had sunshine and I had
some rain. What more do you want? I didn't like
Chris Hipkins turning up in Jendles last week. I'm not
here this morning in Jendles. I take my job seriously.

(02:12):
I did like Enigma. It's on Netflix. It's about Aaron
Rodgers is an insight into a complex but highly successful person.
I like complex and highly successful people. Our oldest turned eighteen,
which I surmised was more important than me. Turning sixty
eighteen has legal consequences. Nothing happens when you're sixty. Our son,
one of them, spent the summer out here from the UK,

(02:32):
reveling in the warmth and sun and wandering down in
New Zealand Memory Lane. He's back to the ice and
storms this Friday. In some shape or form. All the
kids rolled through our place to drink or go to
a festival, or crash or catch up. And given two
of them are offshore these days, you get more grateful
for those trips. I can tell you. I reveled in Trump.
I mean, what a force of nature. I mean, of
course he's insane, but he's a symbol of a new

(02:53):
age and age of doing stuff and getting stuff done,
which is where poor old Chris Luxen, who also put
on proper clothes, failed to fire. He's a talker, he
loves an idea and speech. But the problem they have
clearly finally worked out that they have is that they
tend to yack, not do Trump does stuff, and I
think a lot of people are pleasantly surprised over the
last week or so. Luxon might want to take some notes.
I have things to say about tourism and hospital and

(03:15):
service ideas around here in New Zealand, which we got
stuck on twice and we only flew twice, and on
road cones that despite the promises, have gone nowhere. I
saw Luke Colmes. I like the idea that Eden Park
has no limits, not that will come to pass. I
like the idea of this country actually getting its act together.
Let's hope, so a lot to do, a lot to
talk about. It's going to be awesome.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
He's actually one of the only people I've come across
is who went to Luke Colmbs. I try not to
move in those circles, but I was interested in his review.
Apparently the sound was terrible, so Eden Park, you only
get more concerts if you sounds good. That there's going
to be not my bottom line.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
It's the rewrap, right.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
So yeah, Mike wasn't here for the inauguration last week,
but I'm sure he was watching.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
We've got to talk about Trump, of course, isn't he fantastic?
I think he is fantastic. What I like about what
he's done so far is none of it's a surprise
he actually does what he said he would do. Mainstream
media still can't get their head around it. I watched
see an end last week twisting themselves into a knot
over the pardons and the fact a lot of what
he says isn't true. It's as though they still think
by winging and moaning about it all, something's going to change.

(04:25):
The Trump era is the most legitimate democratic thing you
will see at the moment anywhere in the world. He
won the presidency by way of the college vote and
the popular vote. He won the House, he won the Senate.
He's also won the Supreme Court. That was more by luck,
not tied to an election. So what he has is
a mandate. You can't argue with that. He said he
would deport he is. He said he'd get out of Paris.

(04:47):
He has not All of what he said he will
do will happen. Because while some of it birthrights citizenship,
for example, that's one is constitutional, and changing that takes
a lot of court time. In more than four years
a Milannia, you might have noticed as clearly had some
sort of come to Jesus moment, given she seems front
and center these days. I watch them in Carolina and
Los Angeles on Saturday, then Las Vegas on Sunday. Beer's

(05:08):
work ethic apart from anything else, by the way, she
said nothing, but she seems sort of keen this time around.
She's got a camera following her as far as I
can work out, So there's a documentary coming. I watched
the inauguration. Carmela couldn't hide a misery. Baron couldn't hide
a sense of humor.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Who knew.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
Much is being made of the fact he doesn't have
to face the voters ever again. Headlines all over the place.
Trump will never have to face the voters ever again,
as though that doesn't apply. Think about it, although that
doesn't apply to every single president who gets a second
term for God's sake, their inference being because he doesn't
have to face the mcginni or go nuts. He won't
go nuts. He's already nuts, but a lot of people

(05:42):
like that kind of nuts, clearly, and he comes off
the back as the Wall Street Journal so decisively portrayed
one of the great crime families of modern America, the Bidens,
the sinility read it. It wasn't reported here, of course
because we're asleep at the wheel, but the sinility hidden
from day one all the family pardoned, had Hunter singled
out despite Joe saying he wouldn't. I mean, what a liar,

(06:05):
what a crook? As I said last year, Trump first
time came and went, will didn't end It won'ty in
this time either would. So far, it's going to be
a hoot watching and I for one and loving.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
It as doing stuff a reason to like someone regardless
of what the stuff is. That's my slide issue there.
I mean, I guess, I mean. There was a slightly
frustrating interview with the Prime Minister this morning because I

(06:38):
seemed to be of the opinion that they hadn't done
that much stuff. It certainly hadn't done as much stuff
as they said they were going to by this stage,
too much pi lava to get through it. According to
the Prime Minister rewrapped, there was certainly a lot of
pi lava about three waters, and that's going right back,
right back. There was an election issue, I'm pretty sure,

(07:01):
and now like who's the bad guy? And Harry No,
my mind's gone blank. But you're not supposed to say
his name out loud or we will suddenly appeared. Probably
just as well, I can't remember it.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
John Lamont boss at three Waters. Good coverage from Kate
McNamara this morning and the Herald highest chief executive pay
out five hundred and thirty two thousand, five hundred dollars.
So he was in charge of the Auckland Northland Water
Services Entity. Now did he have a right to take
the job? Yes he did. He took up the job
on fair bait and he left on December fifteenth, so

(07:36):
just ten months in the job. Now in fair bait,
could you have argued that in election year when knew
National were going to win the election? Yes you could.
Should that prevent you from taking a job because of
what you think may or may not happen? Maybe? Maybe not.
A lot of people probably argue not so. In other words,
to take the job. But did you take the job
knowing that your job was going to come to an

(07:58):
end by the end of the year, therefore indicating that
you really didn't want to be in the job all
that long anyway? And if you weren't in the job
all that long anyway, there might be a nice check
at the end of it and turns out over half
a million dollars because when the new go came and
first thing that did was well, that three waters is off.
Who do we need to get rid of and write
a check to five hundred and thirty two thousand, five hundred.
What are you rerickon about that?

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Look, I know it's a lot of money, but can
we just pretend that had never happened? Voldemort, That's who
I was trying to think of. You were probably shouting
it at me, and I probably got those vibes.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Actually I didn't. I locked it up rewrap.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
So, yeah, my uneasy about some of the inaction of
this current coalition government and not buying the Pilava excuse.
But of course then you look across the other side
of the house and.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
Mike, the best thing going for luction is Hipkins. Probably true.
I read somewhere over the holidays that Labour's big task
this year is to assuage us all, to remind us
that it's not the end of the world if you
vote for Labor. But I thought to myself, as he
stood there in his gendles, not taking himself clearly very seriously,
was that as long as it's not labor you vote
for or don't vote for. It's the people in charge.

(09:09):
So as long as Hipkins is there and Sepalone's there,
and Tonetti's there and Virul's there, these are the same people.
One short it will be three by the time we vote.
Three short years ago were wrecking in the economy, and
as we found out from the HSBC, was it last
week late last week. No one got worse hit than
we said it all last year, and no one got
worse hit than we did. So those are the very

(09:29):
same people. So it's not about labor or national it's
about the individuals concerned. And you can have a Roger
Douglas labor Party or a David Longe Labor Party, or
Helen Clark Labour Party or Chris Sipkins Labor Party. The
very same people who dug us into the hole we're
currently in want to come back and pretend it's all
gone or different or better, or you've got amnesia or something.
I don't know how it works.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
I had this terrible realization as he was saying that,
and I can't stop thinking about Chris Haipkins, blazingly white
feet and Janndors and how inappropriate, that was, And I
had this revelation as he was talking about that, and
as I couldn't stop thinking about that, we are paying him.

(10:11):
We the taxpayer, are paying that guy to turn up
and sort of deliver everything with a half a laugh
and wearing jandles. We did a good dating for money.
There can we change the system somehow that you only
pay for the people that you vote for, and that
way the people who you didn't vote for or get.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Paid lez.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
It sounds like a ridiculous idea that right at the moment,
I can't.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Think why it wouldn't work the.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Rewrap, especially when these are the sorts of people who well,
I almost didn't believe Mike when he started saying this,
let's see if you do so.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
So this whale thing, which as far as I can
work out, has got basically no coverage whatsoever. But this
was part of the National Science Challenge and it was
swept through by people like David Seymore who were looking
to save money. In totally ended up saving four hundred
and eighty six million dollars. They found four hundred and
eighty six million dollars worth of waste. Some of that
waste was this National Science Challenge. This is the story
you haven't heard of. It's called the Oranger Wellbeing Project.

(11:13):
Five step research project. As part of this challenge brings
together the country's top scientist to use the best science
to address the challenges. So far, no big deal. One
of the things they were doing was testing to see
if using Mari world views would help in the fight
against Carie dieback in Myrtle rust. This particular project began

(11:34):
in twenty twenty only stopped in March of last year.
So twenty twenty, twenty one, twenty two, twenty three, twenty
four scientists looked at the relationship that Mary believe exists
between the sperm whale and the curry tree. They investigated
solutions like praying for Carie and singing songs of sadness

(11:57):
to see if that helps heal the tree. They collected
different Can you imagine being a new government, you come
and go where am I going to save Somania? And
you stumble upon this You honestly, you will be pinching
yourself and you'll be thinking. You'll be thinking this cannot
be real, won't you? They collected different whale songs and

(12:19):
sounds mixed those whale sounds with sounds from healthy cowrie forests.
The sound how do you have you got a sound
of a healthy carrie forest? Eaglin le just give us
the sound of a healthy cowrie forest. And they played
it in unhealthy carrie forests.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
In the book.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
What is it they they played it in unhealthy carrie forests?
Is that a scientist to assess whether the whale music
could be soothing and healing?

Speaker 2 (12:55):
I think one of them might be. A codie tree
could be if you listen carefully.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
Said an unhappy cary was sound very happy.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
Dying back.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
He's dying back rush the murtle rush anyway. This is
all on the NB page. The project leaders openly admit
that this research is a way to give Mari knowledge
equal footing with science, and claim that it doesn't need
to meet scientific standards because it's about restoring life force

(13:28):
rather than achieving measurable results.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Man, you'd throw a few Midi chlorins in there and
you'd have somebody who's in touch with the force.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
Four zero point two seven million dollars we spent on that,
and you want to was.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
It submitted by Obi wan Kenobi. I'd just like to
clarify that wasn't the actual recordings that were played in
the forests, and was not the actual Fox. It was
an artist's representation if you like to All the real
recordings worked very well. I hate Caldi die back as

(14:12):
much as the next person. I amngry and heart and
yeah rollicking start for Mike even if he didn't turn
up a day late. But you know, what can you do.
Let's see if he comes again tomorrow.

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