March 9, 2025 • 12 mins
THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Monday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) Keeping Things Binary/Reshuffling Shadows Sounds Tricky/More Annoying Opinions/Spewing Over Stapleton/How Are We Feeling?
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Therapy There. Welcome to the rewrap for Monday.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
All the best, but it's from the Mike Hosking Breakfast
on News Dog ZB in a sillier package, I am
a gleen Heart Today. Labour's reshuffle doesn't really make any difference.
Speaking of shadow cabinets, timoth Or Paul and what she's
had to say about.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Prisoners, Does that make any difference?
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Chris Stapleton, the concerts happened, I think, And we've got
a poll about how we're feeling, so let's find out
how we're feeling at the end of the podcast. First up,
how Mike's feeling about diversity and.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
You know, equality and all, you know the.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
D so whatever you want right about Trump, but his
demeanor and his influences now genuinely global. Why well, Peter Dutton.
Peter Dutton has been accused of his Trumpian stance on
everything from public service to immigration and their are election
campaign at the moment and now we got Winston Peters
all over. DEI made the announcement on Friday. DEI not
new of course, and the New Zealand first move to
(01:29):
change the rules in the public service could easily have
been part of the government deal, but it isn't. And
given it isn't, it's private members bill that will have
to be drawn. And even then do they have the numbers?
There's your question that in and of itself, I would
have thought it's an interesting proposition. Act I'm assuming would
be behind it. But what about the nats is DEI,
mainstreamers at NICHE. How many do they risk offending if
(01:50):
they take a stance A it's got a touch of
the old rock and a hard place about it. That
part of the issue is the fraudulent behavior of the corporates.
Of course, if America's anything to go by, most of
them will dump it as quickly as for the simple
reason they never believed in it in the first place.
I mean, apples seem to be a kind of a
hold out if you follow this story in America at
the moment, despite what the shearf holders have been telling them,
it's actually very like BP if you think about it,
(02:12):
and climate zero the other week. Everyone's on board until
they realize it's all theory and the bottom line might
actually count for something. The fact the basic principle that
the best person for the job has been largely ditched
as we genuflect our way around a series of invented
nonsense speaks not to just how way would we become,
but just how weak willed we are and how easily
we can dispense with common sense in a desire to
(02:34):
not be seen as out of step with the theory
of the day. Age, gender, height, sexuality, left handedness should
have little of anything to do with your employment. Skills, determination, dedication,
and performance are your beginning, middle, and end. Your results
are your ticket to promotion, not a pronoun. Feels are
not a guiding principle in the workplace. As always, humanity
(02:55):
has allowed the pendulum to swing too far. For all
the old ways we grew tired of, what replaced them
has increasingly been proved to be fascical. DEI only ever
belonged on a whiteboard when someone uttered, oh, come on,
there's no bad ideas except there were.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, some people just down into diversity. I think it's
too complicated. You know, you're either with me or against me, right,
So everything's binary. You're either right or you're wrong. And
if you're not the same as me, then you're wrong.
It's easy.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
It's a rewrap.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
And if you're not the same as Chris Hopkins, then
you might have got reshuffled out of your job, even
though as being a shadow minister for something.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Really a job jan Toinetti was an obvious one I
would have thought to drop from such a critical portfolio.
Education gone. I'm not sure Willow Jean Prime has now
got it is interested in much outside the Mary sphere
of her question line on the House is anything to
go by. But here is why it really doesn't matter.
This Hipkins reshuffle that was announced on Friday a state
of the nation, and this reshuffle is fine if people
(03:56):
still didn't remember you as the architect of the economic
mismanagement just the short time ago. Now when Hipkins, as
he did talk to the public service and jobs and
the economy, those were all things he wrecked, and he
was wrecking them just a year and a half ago.
Time is a bigger player in any party's political fortunes
as a character or a personality, or a policy or
an attitude. That is why essentially governments in this country
(04:16):
tend to get in almost automatic two terms. Generally, governments
lose because we've got sick of them. We certainly got
sick of the Labour Party seventeen through twenty three, and
in the ensuing period of true carnage that's been laid
bare from the OECD figures around recessions, to the fairy debarkle,
to the school lunches that were never funded. And the
biggest part of all of that trouble is the main architect,
or at least one of the three, the one who
(04:38):
stayed behind is now in charge of the joint Adirn
left the country for a reason, Hipkins. I'm assuming because
he couldn't get no work anywhere else, but because not
enough water has gone under the bridge, and or the
current government hasn't done anything to generate fatigue or anger.
He's fighting a losing cause. I mean, you could put
Garndhi Michael Jordan in the pope in charge of Labour portfolios.
(04:58):
It would make no difference at this particular point in time.
Further complicating things is the broad understanding the economy is
coming right and if the wind blows and the stars aligned,
by the time election YE comes we may actually have growth,
a level of prosperity and a sense of long lost
confidence match that with the memory of Hipkins as the
man in charge of all I don't know the police,
m i Q education. He doesn't stand a chance. There
(05:21):
might even be an argument that if they aren't competitive,
Hipkins might get reshuffled himself.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
That would have been quite cool.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
You know.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Does I've got an announcement. We've we've had some.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
A slight change around in our shadow cabinet here. Let's
start with.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Leader of the party. Hang on, what do you mean
leader at the party? There would have been cool. Unfortunately
that did not happen. But like Mama says, maybe it
will rewrap.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Let's move across the color spectrum from red to green
because Tamotha Paul said something that's got Mike up sets.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Tamotha Paul, Green MP not enough coverage of this. Tamotha
was on social media and this should be my number
one rule of player. Get to be the leader of
the Green Party. Well, I won't be the leader of
the Green Party, will be co leader of course. That
will be my first idea. We need more co leaders anyway,
tamath Paul, My first idea is co leader of the
Green Party is can you all get off social media?
Because you make dicks of yourself on it anyway. Tamatha
(06:21):
Paul says over the weekend that the vast majority of
people in prison are therefore nonviolent offenses, that they've had
to do these things because they're poor. The vast majority
of people who are in prison are there for nonviolent offenses,
so things that they've had to do as a response
to properties, such as stealing food and being dishonest. They
(06:41):
don't have an address to get community sentencing or bail,
so they have to be in prison. Most people are
in prison because of disabilities, conditions like fetal alcohol spectrum
disorder and undiagnosed autism or ADHD. They're being punished for
being disabled. They're being punished for being poor. They're being
punished for being Maori. They're being punished for our system
(07:03):
that we have in this country. Quality bit of representation,
isn't it If you voted for her in the particular
Wellington Electric, congratulations to you, you're being well served.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
That's one of the its happened every now and again where.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
You know Michael says something like that without giving any
thought to the fact that there might be other people
out there who agree with everything that she said that
she's not the only one who has those opinions. And
I'm not saying that either of the ride or wrong.
But again it goes back to this whole question of you.
Apparently you've got to be either right or wrong, and
there's definitely no middle ground. So rewrap right, So content
(07:43):
reviewing time, this is all about third hand because none
of us went to Chris Stapleton.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Accept our boss.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Mike, did you go to Chris Stapleton? It was next
level amazing. Everything I hear is next level amazing, and
I put it there. I was just talking to the boss.
Actually it was embarrassing the boss when he got in
the fight, but I'll come back to that in a moment.
So I see Chris Stapleton as an officionado. He's one
of those. He's not as big a deal as Luke
holmebs Luke Home as global, you know, seriously, global, stadium global.
(08:12):
Chris Stapleton is still indoor arenas of you know, ten
to fifteen thousand. But he's an officionado. He's just a
sheer genius in terms of his musicianship, and the band
is always brilliant anyway, people raved about it, and I
saw several reports and accounts and people sent me videos
and stuff like that. Anyway, the unfortunate thing is the
boss of the boss of the company raved Jason ended
up in a fight, and he was of course in
(08:33):
the VIP seats, and when he gets the VIP seats,
he gets a little you know. Anyway, there was a
woman in a seat and he was having none of it,
and he had to call the I can't remember the order,
but you know, the sort of one of the people
helping out in the VIP section tried to get her out.
He wasn't having that, and then he had to call security,
and security came along, and then finally the police had
to come and they were dragging there. Just just a
(08:55):
woman who wanted a nice night out.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
A crowd crash.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
It was very, very similar. It got I'm surprised and
get covered on the Herald and Sunday.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
But anyway, well he obviously, I mean he's got the power.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Kept it on the Delo, kept it on the Delo.
But Jason had a fight. But apart from these said,
once it's settled down and the blood stopped flowing, the
concert was a very good concert. So he had a
very enjoyable time, which is good to hear.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
And then somebody else texted and to say that they
went to the concert and it was ruined a bit
because there were a whole lot of drunk people all
over the place and somebody.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Threw up in front of them and it took them
half an hour to kind of clean it up. So
it sounds like a classy crowd Stapleton.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
But also, who's serving these people? I think you went
allowed to serve intoxicated people. Maybe they had a tummy bug.
Benefit of the dow it's the rewrap.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Actually, speaking of how we're feeling, how are we feeling?
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Horizon Pole out this morning, it's the weirdest pole. It's
the most ridiculous pole. So there are more negative people
than positive people, and feelings towards the government in this
particular pole. Respondents were showing a randomized list of words
and asked to choose the words they feel. So thirty
nine percent of us are concerned about how the coalition
(10:13):
government is performing. So that's thirty nine Remember the number,
thirty eight percent were disappointed, thirty four percent of frustrated,
and twenty four percent are angry. Now, if you add
those numbers together thirty nine, thirty eight, thirty four and
twenty four you come up with one hundred and thirty
five percent, So it's one hundred and thirty five.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
You can be frustrated and angry.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
This is my point, My point being, so can we
have more than one feeling? Presumably that's what they're asking,
But then twenty two percent of us are hopeful, ten
percent of us a pleased, five percent or excited, and
four percent of proud, and four percent are and expired inspired.
So you've now got one.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Hundred eight they have academy all the expired people, so.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
One hundred and eighty percent. So one hundred and thirty percent.
But how can you have more than one hundred percent
of people who are disappointed, frustrated, if not angry, but
also at the same time pleased, excited and proud.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Can you be frustrated and angry, yes, but pleased to
be hopeful that things are going to get better?
Speaker 4 (11:11):
No, No, you can't, because it doesn't It literally makes
no sense. Survey could indicate the task New Zealand First
has before it. When I say New Zealand First, I
don't mean New Zealand First the party, but New Zealand
has before it as in like it's a big task
and we're all frustrated or angry or pleased or excited
(11:31):
or disappointed.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Are people just more in touch with their feelings than you.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Or confused or me? Maybe they're confused.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Because I feel like I can only feel one thing
at a time, But I reckon, I've met heaps of.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
People who can feel more than one thing at a time.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
And then somebody had the T'm already to text in
it and claim that after a few of my berman's
is probably why I can only feel one thing at
a time.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
That's the whole point of them. I'm going for nothing.
I'm trying to feel no thing at a time.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
That's got to be a lot less stressful than all
these people who are feeling all sorts of things.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I wouldn't want to be one of them. I am
Glenn Hart.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
I don't know how I feel about that, So I'll
just forget that it had happened, and then I'll be
back with you with another one of these tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
See then
Speaker 1 (12:24):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Therapy There. Welcome to the rewrap for Monday.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
All the best, but it's from the Mike Hosking Breakfast
on News Dog ZB in a sillier package, I am
a gleen Heart Today. Labour's reshuffle doesn't really make any difference.
Speaking of shadow cabinets, timoth Or Paul and what she's
had to say about.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Prisoners, Does that make any difference?
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Chris Stapleton, the concerts happened, I think, And we've got
a poll about how we're feeling, so let's find out
how we're feeling at the end of the podcast. First up,
how Mike's feeling about diversity and.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
You know, equality and all, you know the.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
D so whatever you want right about Trump, but his
demeanor and his influences now genuinely global. Why well, Peter Dutton.
Peter Dutton has been accused of his Trumpian stance on
everything from public service to immigration and their are election
campaign at the moment and now we got Winston Peters
all over. DEI made the announcement on Friday. DEI not
new of course, and the New Zealand first move to
(01:29):
change the rules in the public service could easily have
been part of the government deal, but it isn't. And
given it isn't, it's private members bill that will have
to be drawn. And even then do they have the numbers?
There's your question that in and of itself, I would
have thought it's an interesting proposition. Act I'm assuming would
be behind it. But what about the nats is DEI,
mainstreamers at NICHE. How many do they risk offending if
(01:50):
they take a stance A it's got a touch of
the old rock and a hard place about it. That
part of the issue is the fraudulent behavior of the corporates.
Of course, if America's anything to go by, most of
them will dump it as quickly as for the simple
reason they never believed in it in the first place.
I mean, apples seem to be a kind of a
hold out if you follow this story in America at
the moment, despite what the shearf holders have been telling them,
it's actually very like BP if you think about it,
(02:12):
and climate zero the other week. Everyone's on board until
they realize it's all theory and the bottom line might
actually count for something. The fact the basic principle that
the best person for the job has been largely ditched
as we genuflect our way around a series of invented
nonsense speaks not to just how way would we become,
but just how weak willed we are and how easily
we can dispense with common sense in a desire to
(02:34):
not be seen as out of step with the theory
of the day. Age, gender, height, sexuality, left handedness should
have little of anything to do with your employment. Skills, determination, dedication,
and performance are your beginning, middle, and end. Your results
are your ticket to promotion, not a pronoun. Feels are
not a guiding principle in the workplace. As always, humanity
(02:55):
has allowed the pendulum to swing too far. For all
the old ways we grew tired of, what replaced them
has increasingly been proved to be fascical. DEI only ever
belonged on a whiteboard when someone uttered, oh, come on,
there's no bad ideas except there were.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, some people just down into diversity. I think it's
too complicated. You know, you're either with me or against me, right,
So everything's binary. You're either right or you're wrong. And
if you're not the same as me, then you're wrong.
It's easy.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
It's a rewrap.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
And if you're not the same as Chris Hopkins, then
you might have got reshuffled out of your job, even
though as being a shadow minister for something.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Really a job jan Toinetti was an obvious one I
would have thought to drop from such a critical portfolio.
Education gone. I'm not sure Willow Jean Prime has now
got it is interested in much outside the Mary sphere
of her question line on the House is anything to
go by. But here is why it really doesn't matter.
This Hipkins reshuffle that was announced on Friday a state
of the nation, and this reshuffle is fine if people
(03:56):
still didn't remember you as the architect of the economic
mismanagement just the short time ago. Now when Hipkins, as
he did talk to the public service and jobs and
the economy, those were all things he wrecked, and he
was wrecking them just a year and a half ago.
Time is a bigger player in any party's political fortunes
as a character or a personality, or a policy or
an attitude. That is why essentially governments in this country
(04:16):
tend to get in almost automatic two terms. Generally, governments
lose because we've got sick of them. We certainly got
sick of the Labour Party seventeen through twenty three, and
in the ensuing period of true carnage that's been laid
bare from the OECD figures around recessions, to the fairy debarkle,
to the school lunches that were never funded. And the
biggest part of all of that trouble is the main architect,
or at least one of the three, the one who
(04:38):
stayed behind is now in charge of the joint Adirn
left the country for a reason, Hipkins. I'm assuming because
he couldn't get no work anywhere else, but because not
enough water has gone under the bridge, and or the
current government hasn't done anything to generate fatigue or anger.
He's fighting a losing cause. I mean, you could put
Garndhi Michael Jordan in the pope in charge of Labour portfolios.
(04:58):
It would make no difference at this particular point in time.
Further complicating things is the broad understanding the economy is
coming right and if the wind blows and the stars aligned,
by the time election YE comes we may actually have growth,
a level of prosperity and a sense of long lost
confidence match that with the memory of Hipkins as the
man in charge of all I don't know the police,
m i Q education. He doesn't stand a chance. There
(05:21):
might even be an argument that if they aren't competitive,
Hipkins might get reshuffled himself.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
That would have been quite cool.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
You know.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Does I've got an announcement. We've we've had some.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
A slight change around in our shadow cabinet here. Let's
start with.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Leader of the party. Hang on, what do you mean
leader at the party? There would have been cool. Unfortunately
that did not happen. But like Mama says, maybe it
will rewrap.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Let's move across the color spectrum from red to green
because Tamotha Paul said something that's got Mike up sets.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Tamotha Paul, Green MP not enough coverage of this. Tamotha
was on social media and this should be my number
one rule of player. Get to be the leader of
the Green Party. Well, I won't be the leader of
the Green Party, will be co leader of course. That
will be my first idea. We need more co leaders anyway,
tamath Paul, My first idea is co leader of the
Green Party is can you all get off social media?
Because you make dicks of yourself on it anyway. Tamatha
(06:21):
Paul says over the weekend that the vast majority of
people in prison are therefore nonviolent offenses, that they've had
to do these things because they're poor. The vast majority
of people who are in prison are there for nonviolent offenses,
so things that they've had to do as a response
to properties, such as stealing food and being dishonest. They
(06:41):
don't have an address to get community sentencing or bail,
so they have to be in prison. Most people are
in prison because of disabilities, conditions like fetal alcohol spectrum
disorder and undiagnosed autism or ADHD. They're being punished for
being disabled. They're being punished for being poor. They're being
punished for being Maori. They're being punished for our system
(07:03):
that we have in this country. Quality bit of representation,
isn't it If you voted for her in the particular
Wellington Electric, congratulations to you, you're being well served.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
That's one of the its happened every now and again where.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
You know Michael says something like that without giving any
thought to the fact that there might be other people
out there who agree with everything that she said that
she's not the only one who has those opinions. And
I'm not saying that either of the ride or wrong.
But again it goes back to this whole question of you.
Apparently you've got to be either right or wrong, and
there's definitely no middle ground. So rewrap right, So content
(07:43):
reviewing time, this is all about third hand because none
of us went to Chris Stapleton.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Accept our boss.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Mike, did you go to Chris Stapleton? It was next
level amazing. Everything I hear is next level amazing, and
I put it there. I was just talking to the boss.
Actually it was embarrassing the boss when he got in
the fight, but I'll come back to that in a moment.
So I see Chris Stapleton as an officionado. He's one
of those. He's not as big a deal as Luke
holmebs Luke Home as global, you know, seriously, global, stadium global.
(08:12):
Chris Stapleton is still indoor arenas of you know, ten
to fifteen thousand. But he's an officionado. He's just a
sheer genius in terms of his musicianship, and the band
is always brilliant anyway, people raved about it, and I
saw several reports and accounts and people sent me videos
and stuff like that. Anyway, the unfortunate thing is the
boss of the boss of the company raved Jason ended
up in a fight, and he was of course in
(08:33):
the VIP seats, and when he gets the VIP seats,
he gets a little you know. Anyway, there was a
woman in a seat and he was having none of it,
and he had to call the I can't remember the order,
but you know, the sort of one of the people
helping out in the VIP section tried to get her out.
He wasn't having that, and then he had to call security,
and security came along, and then finally the police had
to come and they were dragging there. Just just a
(08:55):
woman who wanted a nice night out.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
A crowd crash.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
It was very, very similar. It got I'm surprised and
get covered on the Herald and Sunday.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
But anyway, well he obviously, I mean he's got the power.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Kept it on the Delo, kept it on the Delo.
But Jason had a fight. But apart from these said,
once it's settled down and the blood stopped flowing, the
concert was a very good concert. So he had a
very enjoyable time, which is good to hear.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
And then somebody else texted and to say that they
went to the concert and it was ruined a bit
because there were a whole lot of drunk people all
over the place and somebody.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Threw up in front of them and it took them
half an hour to kind of clean it up. So
it sounds like a classy crowd Stapleton.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
But also, who's serving these people? I think you went
allowed to serve intoxicated people. Maybe they had a tummy bug.
Benefit of the dow it's the rewrap.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Actually, speaking of how we're feeling, how are we feeling?
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Horizon Pole out this morning, it's the weirdest pole. It's
the most ridiculous pole. So there are more negative people
than positive people, and feelings towards the government in this
particular pole. Respondents were showing a randomized list of words
and asked to choose the words they feel. So thirty
nine percent of us are concerned about how the coalition
(10:13):
government is performing. So that's thirty nine Remember the number,
thirty eight percent were disappointed, thirty four percent of frustrated,
and twenty four percent are angry. Now, if you add
those numbers together thirty nine, thirty eight, thirty four and
twenty four you come up with one hundred and thirty
five percent, So it's one hundred and thirty five.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
You can be frustrated and angry.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
This is my point, My point being, so can we
have more than one feeling? Presumably that's what they're asking,
But then twenty two percent of us are hopeful, ten
percent of us a pleased, five percent or excited, and
four percent of proud, and four percent are and expired inspired.
So you've now got one.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Hundred eight they have academy all the expired people, so.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
One hundred and eighty percent. So one hundred and thirty percent.
But how can you have more than one hundred percent
of people who are disappointed, frustrated, if not angry, but
also at the same time pleased, excited and proud.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Can you be frustrated and angry, yes, but pleased to
be hopeful that things are going to get better?
Speaker 4 (11:11):
No, No, you can't, because it doesn't It literally makes
no sense. Survey could indicate the task New Zealand First
has before it. When I say New Zealand First, I
don't mean New Zealand First the party, but New Zealand
has before it as in like it's a big task
and we're all frustrated or angry or pleased or excited
(11:31):
or disappointed.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Are people just more in touch with their feelings than you.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Or confused or me? Maybe they're confused.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Because I feel like I can only feel one thing
at a time, But I reckon, I've met heaps of.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
People who can feel more than one thing at a time.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
And then somebody had the T'm already to text in
it and claim that after a few of my berman's
is probably why I can only feel one thing at
a time.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
That's the whole point of them. I'm going for nothing.
I'm trying to feel no thing at a time.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
That's got to be a lot less stressful than all
these people who are feeling all sorts of things.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I wouldn't want to be one of them. I am
Glenn Hart.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
I don't know how I feel about that, So I'll
just forget that it had happened, and then I'll be
back with you with another one of these tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
See then
Speaker 1 (12:24):
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