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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk SEDB. Follow
this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
The Rewrap.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Gooday there, and welcome to the rewrap for Wednesday. All
the best, but it's from the mic hosting Breakfast on
New Stores ed B and a Sillier package. I am
Glen Heart today. It's the anniversary of COVID or something
something that we'd rather not talk about anyway. I certainly
would rather not talk about school lunchers, And yet we
will be Is it enough to make me hate my job?
(00:50):
And we'll finish up with more on mic costings twenty
five years at his job.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Before any of that. The left wing, the left leaning coalition.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Labor need to choose its friends a little bit more carefully.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
It's exercise. Is some people have been this week about
social media, the Greens and their behavior. The bigger issue,
I thought, is not the Greens but Labour and all
who might support them into government.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
See.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
As much as we may froth and hyper ventilate about
any given issue on any given day or small fire storm,
who runs the country and how is what we all
ultimately should be focused on. Given we will not be
going back to a single large party ever again won
because COVID is not repeating, and even if it did,
I doubt we would panic again electorally the way we did.
(01:36):
And two, given Labour left their own devices literally destroyed
the place. Most of us, for good or bad, have
come to the conclusion that a mix of parties under
this MMP system we seem to have voted for is
accepted and here to stay. So National need at least
one player, probably two, and the same applies to Labor now.
For now, National seems to have got lucky and or
well organized, whether you're supported or not. Broadly speaking, National
(02:00):
act in New Zealand first get along fine. Media tries
to stir up bits of trouble around mind and matters periodically,
and we yet to see I guess a full blown
can pain post their first term, where the gloves might
come off you, punches might get thrown, but overall things
accordial and well managed. Labor, on the other hand, need
certainly the Greens, possibly the Marray Party. Both are increasingly ropey,
(02:22):
Both are increasingly belligerent, Both are increasingly fringe. Both are
an electoral nightmare for a so called mainstream left wing party.
The Greens of James shaw, Rod Donald and Jeanette fitz
Simon's they are long gone. The Marray Party of Peter
Sharpele's and Tarriana Turia long gone. Both the current Greens
and the Murray Party your anti establishment disruptors who revel
in a type of anarchy, almost as though they're outside
(02:43):
the system. All of which is fine if you like
that and want to vote for it, but it's completely
incompatible to running a country, even for a Labor Party
that's become increasingly left leaning and socialists. If you don't
need or want to be in power, and I don't
think Arthur Greens will Mary Party actually do. You can
say whatever you want, but Labour do want to be
in power. And their problem is they're going to end
(03:03):
up having to answer for an increasingly unhinged rebble or
at least try to dress it up as something they
can handle. And that's their problem. And I don't think
they have the wherewithal to even come close to pulling
that particular truck off.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah, I mean, people do seem to be loving them
in the polls at the moment, don't they, So maybe
they can just stretch that live out a little bit more,
and then.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
They ain't is there anybody? There's nobody else, is there?
Speaker 3 (03:27):
I'm just going to think there's any other left leaning
You just go too far left, don't you, And then
you get into looney left territory. Oh well, it's the rewrap, right,
So it's the whole you know, five years since COVID
thing's been going on, and can't we just not talk
about this anymore?
Speaker 4 (03:46):
So here was the headline to mark the day we
aren't ready. The next pandemic is coming. And in that
line of paranoia is everything that was wrong with the
five year anniversary. That's the right word of our first
lockdown for COVID. As two commissions have or continue to
wide through any number of submissions at all, a waste
of time. There are those who are determined to forecast
(04:06):
doom and as such would do exactly the same next
time as they did five years ago. I noted Ashley
popped up for a bit of a chat, told us
the bird flues are worry and you should have listened more.
I mean, what's that actually mean? Listen more? Does it
lead to anything? Of course it doesn't. It's a sop
the epidemiologists who flooded. Our living rooms would unquestionably be
no different than COVID two point zero than they were
in the original. In fact, if anything should have come
(04:27):
out of twenty twenty in lockdown, it should have been
we don't mark anniversaries at all. We shouldn't be allowed
to interview either Hopkins or Bloomfield or Adern about COVID.
Ever again, hearing them witter is bad for your health.
It's triggering.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
One.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Report's already out, of course, a reflection, ironically of the
COVID response. Itself limited in scope, a stitch up, designed
to look like you've had a bit of a look
at how we handled it in terms of reference, very
much designed not to elicit anything too dramatic. Part two
driven by the new government aghast at Part one's scandalous
limitations as working away feverishly as we speak. But it
doesn't matter what it sees. Nothing will come of it,
(05:00):
because as I said from day one, luck is the
predetermining factor. Get a government of competence, you stand a chance.
Get it the enterlope as we did. You're done for.
If I learned anything it's that warnings about doom from
the likes of Bloomfield mean little or nothing, and that
if any government ever tries half the stuff they did
on again, from the pulpit of truth to vaccine mandates
(05:21):
to lockdowns for spurious reasons, the reaction will be vastly different.
And you didn't need a Commission of inquiry to figure
that out.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah, so Mike's exactly right.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
I feel triggered every time this stuff comes up, and
I just want to forget it all. And I guess
what he's saying there is that if we do do that,
then we'll just do the same dumb things all over again.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
But not only do I want to.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Forget it all, I want to completely deny the fact
that it could happen again as well.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
So let's do that, eh, and move on.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
And also I thought we had agreed to never ever, ever, never,
never ever talk about school lunches ever again.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
And then Mike does this out of the blue.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
To restore my faith in humanity, and if not humanity,
certainly the wide and New Zealand public pull out yesterday.
This is the red research stuff on the school lunches,
the question who's responsible for school lunches? And you think,
listening to the media, it was I don't know the
government social welfare department. It actually turns out to be
parents who would have thought. So when you ask the
(06:17):
average middle of the road New Zealander who gets up
in the morning and goes to oh I don't know
a job and drops their kids at oh I don't
know school, then the chances are you've packed them something,
or god forbid, they've actually packed their own lunch. Anyway,
So when you do a poll on this, sixty one
point five percent of us think it's actually the parent's
role to supply the lunch of the day. That perhaps disturbingly,
(06:42):
thirty two point four percent think it's the government's job.
And in that we should all be deeply, deeply worried
if I ask you whose job is it to give
you kid lunch? And a third of this nation goes, oh,
that'll be the government. Where buget oh?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
I mean, I guess now that Radio New Zealand owns
that pole. Is it possible that they were polling people,
other people who work for the public service, more of
those sorts of people, And if they are.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Then it is essentially the government who's making the lunches. Anyway,
they just got a bit confused it's a rewrap. Now
do you hate your job or do you love it?
Speaker 3 (07:23):
It turns out most of us don't really love it.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
For the ins and the ouse. It's the fizz with
business favor take your business productivity to the next level.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
We've got a lot of the various workplaces and jobs,
and we're not loving our jobs. Unfortunately. This is the
SEEK Evolving Working Life Report surveys. So what have we got.
We've got fifty four percent of us, over half of
us regretting our career choice, and we would choose differently
if we could do it all over again. I find
that profoundly sad, the younger ones who do it the hardest.
(07:55):
But then again, you'd expect that sixty one percent of
millennials and when there's I mean, does a millennial even
have a career. I mean, I've been in this job
for three weeks now and I hate it. The money's
no good and I'm not running the place and they
don't give me days. In lou jen Z fifty six,
gen X fifty one, the boom is forty one main
reason for regret, of course, is money that didn't earn enough,
(08:15):
followed by their passion changing which I suppose that's evolution,
isn't it really? Thirty six percent of people say their
passion's change work being unfulfilling. A quarter of people said
that bad work life balanced. Twenty two percent of surprised
that's not high are those who regret their choice though.
Forty one percent say they're open to a career change.
Button and this is the problem. Forty one percent say
(08:35):
they're open to a career change, but you're doing anything
about it? No, of course you're not. Your moaning you speak,
you speending too much time moaning to seek Only six
percent are actively working towards changing anything. If you loved
what you did, eighty five percent would likely work into
their seventies. See that's the power of loving what you do.
Fifty eight percent say they'll be working longer out of
(08:58):
necessity rather than choice.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
So that's that. I'm constantly amused by how constantly confused
Mike is about people not liking them jobs, because you know,
he's got one that he likes, and that's basically the
only job he's ever had. Yeah, there are a lot
of jobs out there that probably nobody's ever gonna say
is their life's passion and somebody's got to do them
(09:25):
because the robot apocalytse hasn't happened yet. As for working
into years seventies, though, should that number?
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Can't be right? Nobody wants to do that, do they?
It's the rewrap well By again. Maybe the host does. Maybe.
I mean he's been he's come this far.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
My congratulations for twenty five years of top class common
sense broadcasting. Go you good thing. Jim's very nice. You
missed that twenty five years on z B. Yesterday I
did allude apparently, and my wife asked me yesterday, can
you see what the hell were you talking about? I said,
to different sorts of ZBS. And it's gone on longer
than that. What I meant by that is the history
of zb's an interesting one. And I worked many years
(10:02):
ago for three z B in christ Church before it
became News Talk ZB, and I worked for four ZB
and DNE even before it became News Talks B. So
in terms of my zbish ness, there's been more than
twenty five years worth of zbness in me. But this
twenty five years is just news Talk ZEDB in the studio,
well actually not in the studio and other studios. But
(10:23):
now it's getting really good.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
You've really cleared that up.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
And I sound like a kerfuffled old fool, don't I.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
A domestic manager and I were trying to work out
how long i'd been working for this company. I know
that I've been at newsdork z'b twenty four years this year,
because two thousand and one was kind of a significant
year that I had been working for this company for
longer than that. In fact, I've been working for this
(10:49):
company as long as it's been a company. It used
to be called the Radio Network, and they gave out
white long sleeve T shirts.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
You still get long sleeve T shirts.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
I don't know why they were every thing anyway, and
I can clearly see it established, you know whatever. The
date was nineteen ninety six, and I thought that that
means that I've been working here that long.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
It turns out I actually started before it became a company.
This is ninety five.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
So guys, talk about a couple of rambling old geezus.
You've had Mike, now you've got me.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Anyway, it'll be thirty years for me this year about November.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
I think I will see you back here again tomorrow,
not in thirty years.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
I still don't think I'm going to make it to
seventy years. Let's put it that way.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
For more from News Talks at b listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk SEDB. Follow
this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
The Rewrap.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Gooday there, and welcome to the rewrap for Wednesday. All
the best, but it's from the mic hosting Breakfast on
New Stores ed B and a Sillier package. I am
Glen Heart today. It's the anniversary of COVID or something
something that we'd rather not talk about anyway. I certainly
would rather not talk about school lunchers, And yet we
will be Is it enough to make me hate my job?
(00:50):
And we'll finish up with more on mic costings twenty
five years at his job.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Before any of that. The left wing, the left leaning coalition.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Labor need to choose its friends a little bit more carefully.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
It's exercise. Is some people have been this week about
social media, the Greens and their behavior. The bigger issue,
I thought, is not the Greens but Labour and all
who might support them into government.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
See.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
As much as we may froth and hyper ventilate about
any given issue on any given day or small fire storm,
who runs the country and how is what we all
ultimately should be focused on. Given we will not be
going back to a single large party ever again won
because COVID is not repeating, and even if it did,
I doubt we would panic again electorally the way we did.
(01:36):
And two, given Labour left their own devices literally destroyed
the place. Most of us, for good or bad, have
come to the conclusion that a mix of parties under
this MMP system we seem to have voted for is
accepted and here to stay. So National need at least
one player, probably two, and the same applies to Labor now.
For now, National seems to have got lucky and or
well organized, whether you're supported or not. Broadly speaking, National
(02:00):
act in New Zealand first get along fine. Media tries
to stir up bits of trouble around mind and matters periodically,
and we yet to see I guess a full blown
can pain post their first term, where the gloves might
come off you, punches might get thrown, but overall things
accordial and well managed. Labor, on the other hand, need
certainly the Greens, possibly the Marray Party. Both are increasingly ropey,
(02:22):
Both are increasingly belligerent, Both are increasingly fringe. Both are
an electoral nightmare for a so called mainstream left wing party.
The Greens of James shaw, Rod Donald and Jeanette fitz
Simon's they are long gone. The Marray Party of Peter
Sharpele's and Tarriana Turia long gone. Both the current Greens
and the Murray Party your anti establishment disruptors who revel
in a type of anarchy, almost as though they're outside
(02:43):
the system. All of which is fine if you like
that and want to vote for it, but it's completely
incompatible to running a country, even for a Labor Party
that's become increasingly left leaning and socialists. If you don't
need or want to be in power, and I don't
think Arthur Greens will Mary Party actually do. You can
say whatever you want, but Labour do want to be
in power. And their problem is they're going to end
(03:03):
up having to answer for an increasingly unhinged rebble or
at least try to dress it up as something they
can handle. And that's their problem. And I don't think
they have the wherewithal to even come close to pulling
that particular truck off.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah, I mean, people do seem to be loving them
in the polls at the moment, don't they, So maybe
they can just stretch that live out a little bit more,
and then.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
They ain't is there anybody? There's nobody else, is there?
Speaker 3 (03:27):
I'm just going to think there's any other left leaning
You just go too far left, don't you, And then
you get into looney left territory. Oh well, it's the rewrap, right,
So it's the whole you know, five years since COVID
thing's been going on, and can't we just not talk
about this anymore?
Speaker 4 (03:46):
So here was the headline to mark the day we
aren't ready. The next pandemic is coming. And in that
line of paranoia is everything that was wrong with the
five year anniversary. That's the right word of our first
lockdown for COVID. As two commissions have or continue to
wide through any number of submissions at all, a waste
of time. There are those who are determined to forecast
(04:06):
doom and as such would do exactly the same next
time as they did five years ago. I noted Ashley
popped up for a bit of a chat, told us
the bird flues are worry and you should have listened more.
I mean, what's that actually mean? Listen more? Does it
lead to anything? Of course it doesn't. It's a sop
the epidemiologists who flooded. Our living rooms would unquestionably be
no different than COVID two point zero than they were
in the original. In fact, if anything should have come
(04:27):
out of twenty twenty in lockdown, it should have been
we don't mark anniversaries at all. We shouldn't be allowed
to interview either Hopkins or Bloomfield or Adern about COVID.
Ever again, hearing them witter is bad for your health.
It's triggering.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
One.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Report's already out, of course, a reflection, ironically of the
COVID response. Itself limited in scope, a stitch up, designed
to look like you've had a bit of a look
at how we handled it in terms of reference, very
much designed not to elicit anything too dramatic. Part two
driven by the new government aghast at Part one's scandalous
limitations as working away feverishly as we speak. But it
doesn't matter what it sees. Nothing will come of it,
(05:00):
because as I said from day one, luck is the
predetermining factor. Get a government of competence, you stand a chance.
Get it the enterlope as we did. You're done for.
If I learned anything it's that warnings about doom from
the likes of Bloomfield mean little or nothing, and that
if any government ever tries half the stuff they did
on again, from the pulpit of truth to vaccine mandates
(05:21):
to lockdowns for spurious reasons, the reaction will be vastly different.
And you didn't need a Commission of inquiry to figure
that out.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah, so Mike's exactly right.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
I feel triggered every time this stuff comes up, and
I just want to forget it all. And I guess
what he's saying there is that if we do do that,
then we'll just do the same dumb things all over again.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
But not only do I want to.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Forget it all, I want to completely deny the fact
that it could happen again as well.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
So let's do that, eh, and move on.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
And also I thought we had agreed to never ever, ever, never,
never ever talk about school lunches ever again.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
And then Mike does this out of the blue.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
To restore my faith in humanity, and if not humanity,
certainly the wide and New Zealand public pull out yesterday.
This is the red research stuff on the school lunches,
the question who's responsible for school lunches? And you think,
listening to the media, it was I don't know the
government social welfare department. It actually turns out to be
parents who would have thought. So when you ask the
(06:17):
average middle of the road New Zealander who gets up
in the morning and goes to oh I don't know
a job and drops their kids at oh I don't
know school, then the chances are you've packed them something,
or god forbid, they've actually packed their own lunch. Anyway,
So when you do a poll on this, sixty one
point five percent of us think it's actually the parent's
role to supply the lunch of the day. That perhaps disturbingly,
(06:42):
thirty two point four percent think it's the government's job.
And in that we should all be deeply, deeply worried
if I ask you whose job is it to give
you kid lunch? And a third of this nation goes, oh,
that'll be the government. Where buget oh?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
I mean, I guess now that Radio New Zealand owns
that pole. Is it possible that they were polling people,
other people who work for the public service, more of
those sorts of people, And if they are.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Then it is essentially the government who's making the lunches. Anyway,
they just got a bit confused it's a rewrap. Now
do you hate your job or do you love it?
Speaker 3 (07:23):
It turns out most of us don't really love it.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
For the ins and the ouse. It's the fizz with
business favor take your business productivity to the next level.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
We've got a lot of the various workplaces and jobs,
and we're not loving our jobs. Unfortunately. This is the
SEEK Evolving Working Life Report surveys. So what have we got.
We've got fifty four percent of us, over half of
us regretting our career choice, and we would choose differently
if we could do it all over again. I find
that profoundly sad, the younger ones who do it the hardest.
(07:55):
But then again, you'd expect that sixty one percent of
millennials and when there's I mean, does a millennial even
have a career. I mean, I've been in this job
for three weeks now and I hate it. The money's
no good and I'm not running the place and they
don't give me days. In lou jen Z fifty six,
gen X fifty one, the boom is forty one main
reason for regret, of course, is money that didn't earn enough,
(08:15):
followed by their passion changing which I suppose that's evolution,
isn't it really? Thirty six percent of people say their
passion's change work being unfulfilling. A quarter of people said
that bad work life balanced. Twenty two percent of surprised
that's not high are those who regret their choice though.
Forty one percent say they're open to a career change.
Button and this is the problem. Forty one percent say
(08:35):
they're open to a career change, but you're doing anything
about it? No, of course you're not. Your moaning you speak,
you speending too much time moaning to seek Only six
percent are actively working towards changing anything. If you loved
what you did, eighty five percent would likely work into
their seventies. See that's the power of loving what you do.
Fifty eight percent say they'll be working longer out of
(08:58):
necessity rather than choice.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
So that's that. I'm constantly amused by how constantly confused
Mike is about people not liking them jobs, because you know,
he's got one that he likes, and that's basically the
only job he's ever had. Yeah, there are a lot
of jobs out there that probably nobody's ever gonna say
is their life's passion and somebody's got to do them
(09:25):
because the robot apocalytse hasn't happened yet. As for working
into years seventies, though, should that number?
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Can't be right? Nobody wants to do that, do they?
It's the rewrap well By again. Maybe the host does. Maybe.
I mean he's been he's come this far.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
My congratulations for twenty five years of top class common
sense broadcasting. Go you good thing. Jim's very nice. You
missed that twenty five years on z B. Yesterday I
did allude apparently, and my wife asked me yesterday, can
you see what the hell were you talking about? I said,
to different sorts of ZBS. And it's gone on longer
than that. What I meant by that is the history
of zb's an interesting one. And I worked many years
(10:02):
ago for three z B in christ Church before it
became News Talk ZB, and I worked for four ZB
and DNE even before it became News Talks B. So
in terms of my zbish ness, there's been more than
twenty five years worth of zbness in me. But this
twenty five years is just news Talk ZEDB in the studio,
well actually not in the studio and other studios. But
(10:23):
now it's getting really good.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
You've really cleared that up.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
And I sound like a kerfuffled old fool, don't I.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
A domestic manager and I were trying to work out
how long i'd been working for this company. I know
that I've been at newsdork z'b twenty four years this year,
because two thousand and one was kind of a significant
year that I had been working for this company for
longer than that. In fact, I've been working for this
(10:49):
company as long as it's been a company. It used
to be called the Radio Network, and they gave out
white long sleeve T shirts.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
You still get long sleeve T shirts.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
I don't know why they were every thing anyway, and
I can clearly see it established, you know whatever. The
date was nineteen ninety six, and I thought that that
means that I've been working here that long.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
It turns out I actually started before it became a company.
This is ninety five.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
So guys, talk about a couple of rambling old geezus.
You've had Mike, now you've got me.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Anyway, it'll be thirty years for me this year about November.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
I think I will see you back here again tomorrow,
not in thirty years.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
I still don't think I'm going to make it to
seventy years. Let's put it that way.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
For more from News Talks at b listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcast on iHeartRadio
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