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June 12, 2025 • 12 mins

THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Friday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) Work's Good. Work Longer/Stop Saying Stupid Stuff/Mark the Week/What Is an Architect?/Still Not Moving

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
The Rewrap there and welcome to the Rerap for Friday.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
All the best bets from the mic asking Breakfast on
News Dog ZB in.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Sillia package I am Glen Harten.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Today we're going to celebrate all that great competition we
have between supermarkets. Now will mark the week because oh
it's Friday.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
That's what we do.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
Our architects still a thing. And the Southern drift keeps drifting,
but not at Mike's house. But before any of that,
so yes, filling down into the census data.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
It turns out we do or we don't like hard
work the census.

Speaker 4 (00:58):
These release of figures this week, some of those numbers
released really are a treasure trove of not just fact
in stats. But I would have thought of hope. If
you think about it, that astonishing moves south, the teams
of thousands who have headed to the South Island, particularly
christ Church, is that not a framework if you think
about it, for what the whole country could be a
few choice decisions, a bit of get up and go,
a bit of cooperation, a little bit of vision. There

(01:20):
are parts of this country that clearly have done it
right and are clearly magnets in their own right. And
then stats around work this week as well, that very
word work seems to be a problem. It's reported as
a negative. The headline was more and more people are
working longer, indicating you want to stop. You want to stop?
Of course, because of the pension, you can stop any
time you like. I mean, there's no law around when

(01:40):
you work and when you don't work. But the stats
and the reportage of work and age are increasingly out
of date. As we live longer, of course, we're going
to work longer. Why wouldn't we Work is actually good
for us? Work is fun, workers rewarding financially and emotionally.
We're challenged by work. Work should not be a thing
that you expect to end. It's the same as health
or fitness, or diet or leisure. Now the stats one

(02:00):
and two, these days, fifty percent are working between ages
sixty five and sixty nine, a quarter are still working
between seventy and seventy four, or even ten percent of
people are working over seventy five. And why not? I mean,
if you resent it and you've got to work fair enough.
I guess if physically you're naked, sure, go play balls.
But the days of Grandad and the gold watch in
one company for life, they're gone. We need to break

(02:21):
this psychological hold that Super has over us. It's not
even a lot of money, Super. I mean, if it
was lotto, i'd understand it, but it's a bare minimum.
It speaks sadly to this country's productivity or lack of
it and work ethic that too many people are too
reliant on it. Working longer will actually lead to better
health outcomes, hopefully the kids who the Census, by the way,
tells us working more as well. Teenagers have never been

(02:43):
more employed than they are these days. They will enter
the workforce with a view that work is for life,
because we see work for the good, not work for
the drudgery. And I guess if you happen to be
working into your old age and doing it in the
South Island, now that's not a bad life at all.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
Yes, So just keep working, work, work, work, work, work, everyone,
keep working, work to you and die. And I'm sure
that you know because these you remember, these figures came
out of the census. I'm sure that all the people
that have been talked about in those census figures definitely
filled out those census forms themselves. And it wasn't just
delegated to one person who actually does do work in

(03:20):
the house, right.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
It's a rewrap.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Now. It's that part of the week where we sort
of say to ourselves, don't you wish people would just
stop saying stupid things, especially the people who are in
charge of us.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
Mike Lux and Willis need to be held to account.
Willison talks a big game but fails to deliver. Who
are in lux and claim to be better with the
public money, but government debt continues to grow, as does
the government expense. It's true, it is true, true, true,
And that is this.

Speaker 5 (03:49):
It has not been lost on me that if you
go to costc today you can get better for about
half the price that you can at New World at
Pat can say, and that's a story of competition.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
No, it isn't. No, it isn't Niccola. There's one cost
Co in the country and most of Auckland doesn't use
it because it's out West Auckland. Second of all, if
you're in Queenstown, you can't go to Costco. Third, of all,
we made it very clear on this program. Costco is
selling butter at a loss. I'm assuming the Finance Minister
doesn't want supermarkets selling products at a loss, so they're

(04:23):
losing money to get you in the door. It's not
about competition. It's about dragging people in and losing money
on one product so they can make more money on another.
And that's before you get to the fact you have
to pay to belong to Costco in the first place.
Every time she says that stuff, she loses credibility.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
I mean, I get that she's got a lot on
her mind well with you know, trying to get the
country back in the black. But even I know that
that was a dumb thing to say. And all I
do is say dumb things for a living a Rerapp
not sure, of course, I don't just say dumb things.
I also played dumb noises time now.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
To make the weak little piece of news and current
events that's as accurate as a three wood into the
eighteenth in a playoff Ryan Fox nine living the dream
by winning, it really gets better another chance, of course
at the big One this weekend are New Zealand. Ink
seven got a real mojo roll on this week. I
thought the tourism cash, the field days, the teacher numbers,
the food and fiber numbers, the wall deal, the elector

(05:21):
bops stats are there seems a decent choice of good
stuff to talk about this week. Gretta Thunburg too, so
not kidnapped after all, really just fantastically annoying. She's a
good example of where your annoyingness outweighs your effect on
your course. Liquid Glass four. I mean Apple's disappointment of
the week. Tech reveals ain't what they once were, are they?

(05:42):
I mean we may have reached peak tech, or at
least peak tech stuff. Adrian fo Yeah, that's a statement
local disappointment of the week, both him and the bank.
And they're petty mucking around over simple questions. When it's
petty at the top leads nowhere productive. They should be embarrassed.
The Warriors, he can't stop winning. Another two points this

(06:03):
weekend of course with the Buyer, two more after that
with the Panthers. This is the journey to the Promised Land.
This is exactly ten point tie breaks four.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
You cannot be serious.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
At a major after five hours with greatness unfolding, you
wrap it up like that it's everything that's wrong with
the modern world. Are the big move nine? I mean
numbers don't lie, the exodus South, the move to christ
it's the move out of Auckland. What you thought was happening,
did happen? Is happening? Lemont eight one of my sport's
greatest races with Bamber, Hartley and Dixon. Not bad for

(06:37):
a small country. We'll talk to Brendan Shortley, Los Angeles three.
Was that an overreaction looking for a skirmish or what
I mean? You can only show us an intersection of
a few hundred mass try hards and pretend it's a
thing for so long. Businesses and franchise are seven record
sales selling businesses like hotcakes. That's got to be a
good sign for the confidence the Super Rugby playoffs seven.

(07:00):
Hard to see it not being Crusader's Chiefs. Next week,
what do you reckon? That's the week? Copies on the
website and the World Bank this week indicated they expect
marking the week to grow four point on the next fischool.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
It's still amazed how many people around here and give
the Chiefs no chance of winning this thing whatsoever, that
it's a Foregarden conclusion that the Crusaders will I mean,
do you go by historical form or do you go
by recent form? And by recent I mean the last
two games, and yes, the last one was in christ Church.

(07:32):
So just saying it's a rewrap, right, it's a rough
time for architects.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
Apparently they've got nothing to do. How can this be?

Speaker 4 (07:42):
Mike, I'm an architecture in Auckland and the industry stuffed.
I gave that step before they reckoned. The head of
the architecture group said there's a down to in the
likes of which they have not seen in fifty years.
No work all year. Mike owd daughter just graduated Masters
and Architecture with distinction. Well done, awarded one of top
four students in New Zealand. Currently working for a top

(08:03):
architectural practice in Auckland as an intern for free. We
won't be able to keep our creative, talented minds here
considering Sydney and why not? Heartbreaking? What I do know,
I mean, I take your point. You're probably right, sadly,
but what I can say is if you really are gifted,
and your daughter clearly is, you will always get work
and there will always be work because there are always

(08:25):
people who want to hire really really clever people. Now
to the fun stat. I don't know if it's fun,
but the stat how many houses? One of the most
oft used phrases in housing is architecturally designed, isn't it?
Architecturally design has what percentage of houses are architecturally designed?
What percentage? Just pick a number, Give me a number, Sam, Quick, seven, Glenn.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
One hundred percent.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
No, architecturally designed, specifically architecturally designed, And.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Surely an architect has to design the house.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
No, no, they don't. So give me a number apart
from so you say one hundred, yeah, one hundred, and
you say seven. There's a gap between those two numbers. Mike,
Glenn's onto it. The name architect is not worth protected.
You said architecturally designed. They all are, if you meant
designed by a registered architect. Probably their point. So let's

(09:18):
give it. Well, let's give that to Glenn. Mike. Do
you keep Glenn around to make you look really clever?
I think the answer to that's fairly obvious.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
I've really had to lie on my standards lately too
to make you that to work.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
The answer is six. No, it's not. Sorry. The answer
is four four percent of homes are designed by registered architects.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
So where do the plans come from?

Speaker 4 (09:41):
Computer? I reckon, I'll tell you this for nothing. I
could invite my build around Ian and I'd open him
a PIRONI and I'd go, Ian, I want to build
a house, and you'd go, absolutely no problem. And he'd
ask me for a pen and a ruler and we'd
draw up a house and as long as he could
then prove that when he built it wouldn't fall down.
And in fact, it was sixty meters or less these

(10:02):
days is a seventy meters or left they're going to.
We wouldn't even need to go to get CCC. We
put it up in our backyard and that's our And
it wasn't designed by an architect. It was designed by
Mike and Ian, and that's how it works. And so therefore,
if you go to, for example, I don't know, a
Big Gj's or something like that.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
You know, I'm not saying that every house is an
original plan, but.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
Or somewhere along the way, somewhere that was touched by
an architect, Yeah, is what you're saying. I don't really want.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
To argue with you, and I'm going to keep saying
stupid stuff to make you look smarter.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
But I think the more you the more you say that,
the more I want to agree with you. Actually, But
we'll see where this goes. It's just I need a
friend after the stuff I've been happening at home this week.
That's all. I just.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Yeah, she's never going to make you look smart as
she knows.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
No, that is. There's a lot of people, a lot
of people, a lot of people this week. See they
saw some photos of us together and they went, gee,
you're boxing, Mike, So that helped you?

Speaker 3 (10:57):
You say, boxing or punching? Are you punching above your ways?
You box above your weights? I guess it's the same thing,
isn't it. I can't believe that's the thing that I
took out of that because of the silliest little.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Of instant times. Am I saying all this out loud?
The rerap Right, Let's finish.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
Up with the news of Mike's move to christ Church, which,
of course, the news is that it's never happening.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
It was never going to happen. What was he even thinking?

Speaker 4 (11:25):
Mike? You love christ Church? You say you love christ
Church so much. You talk about it. How come you
haven't moved there? Talkers cheap. Look, you're embarrassing me. You're
embarrassing me because you ask a very sensible, if not
obvious question. And that, Believe me, this has been discussed
again in the household this week. My sister in law,
who I loved dearly, who was in christ Church, called

(11:45):
my wife a socker bubba. She said, you're a sucker, bubba.
And she said the only reason you haven't moved to
christ Church is because you're a quote unquote socker bubba,
not me. She was referring to other people, and so
it sort of tugged at me. This week. I see
it happening. I see others enjoying us.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Who wears the pants, who holds the purse strings?

Speaker 4 (12:07):
A little bit of that, A little bit of that
was going on this week.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Just blindly does what he's told because he doesn't want
to get in trouble.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
She's been sick all week. Her words to me as
she got better yesterday were, of all the useless people
I've dealt with, you are the most useless. That's how
that combo ended last night as we went to sleep.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
You see, as different as Mike and I are.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
There are some things we have in common, particularly you know,
we married somebody who would help keep it and keep
it real. It's just that for some of us, our
lives are more real than for others, aren't they.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
I am glad heart.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
I will be back here to keep it real again
on Monday.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
See you then.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
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