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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
Get over there and welcome to the Rerap for Monday,
All the best butts from the Mic Costing Breakfast on
News Talk ZEDB. Special guest starring Heatherdoop of c Allen.
I am Glenn Hart and today where have we got?
Speaker 3 (00:42):
We've got rates? We're talking rates. I want to talk
about rates this year?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Isn't there the exchange of Wellington Hospital's maternity beds for
Wellington Hospital's E D beds. The AI at Wimbledon is
raising a few eyebrows and the EU is making some
changes to the rules about Cavin Baggs. But before any
of that, so mandatory minimum sentences yay or nay.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
On the government asking for potentially considering minimum sentences. If
they go ahead with this, I would have absolutely no
problem whatsoever. And I realize that the judiciary are not
going to love this a la Sir Ron Young who
was just on with us before, because it's tying their hands.
But that is actually the point, because some of the
sentencing discounts that have been handed down by judges are
(01:34):
frankly outrageous, and the worst case I've come across as
the one that I was talking to Ron about, which
is the case of a rapist to attack the woman
in Albert Park in Auckland Central about three years ago.
This guy was given a discount of seventy seven percent
by the judge. He was discounted for being young, He
was discounted for pleading guilty. He was discounted for being
(01:56):
a good boy before that, which I very much doubt.
He was discounted for being for trying to be better
after that, which I also have my doubts about the defense.
Seventy seven percent actually was not that bad because the
defense lawyer was looking for discounts totaling one hundred and
ten percent. How do you possibly discount more than one
hundred percent? But this is the game that they're playing.
Discounting to that point feels like nothing more than trying
(02:18):
to get as light a sentence as possible.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Now.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
I know that the government has already mandated that the
laws the judges are only able to limit their discounts
to forty percent, but I don't even think that fixes
the problem entirely. Hence, needing a minimum because there are
still ways to gain that right. A judge can simply
start at a very low point discounted to forty percent,
and end up at the low point that they want to.
Judges clearly seem to think that fifteen years in jail
(02:40):
for murder is maybe a little bit much. I don't
think that's a bit much. I think that's life. I
think if you take a life, fifteen years to me
seems like getting off quite lightly. A minimum sets a
bar below which even the craftiest judge can't fall. The
problem with it, obviously, is the risk that that becomes
the default sentence.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Right.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
But if that starts happening, we can deal with that later.
And this is not a novel idea, by the way,
it's not like we're being cruel. They do this in
the States, they do this in the UK, they do
this in Australia, they do this in Singapore, and the
list go on, and I can see now a case
for us doing it too, because if you are discounting
three quarters of a sentence, I think you've got a problem.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
We had the parole bloke on the show today and
it was actually really quite refreshing and refreshing to hear
them talk about actual facts about how much more severe
the sentencing has got over.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
The years, and how.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
You know, many less people that have been led out
early and all that sort of stuff, and that a
lot of it is just sort of.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Dog whistle politics. Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I'm not saying that people should be allowed to get
away with grimes, but yeah, sometimes you think that that's happening,
and it's not necessarily happening. So we wrapped that was
funny stuff, Glen that last you crack everybody up with that.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
That's okay.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Then if I could find something funny to say about
rates or if you either can.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Well, I reckon. Local government's got a bit of a
job on its hands, isn't. It turns out they want
to fight that rates cap idea which the government seems
to have taken a bit of a liking to. Over
the weekend, the Taxpayer's Union got its hands on and
released an internal document which shows that local government is
planning to fight back against that to try to stop
the rates cap. Now, what they're planning to do is
launch a nationwide campaign.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
They say.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Unless they do that, the government is likely to introduce
this rates cap. But they reckon they can stop it.
They've stopped an idea like this before, they stop it
in two thousand and nine, and South Australia managed to
stop it as well. And all it takes, they reckon,
is to step up a gear, be louder and boost
public trusting confidence in local government to convince you and
I that councils are better than central government at making
(04:44):
rates decisions. Well, good luck to them on that, because
that I think is their problem. I don't know that
they can boost public trusting confidence in local government and
convince us so they're better, I reckon. Public confidence in
local government has got to be at its lowest ebb
in ages, don't you think No, I don't know how
they get it back, especially when you've got Tory and
Wellington spending two point three million on disco toilets and
(05:05):
spending the last few months as mayor so distracted that
you launching an online campaign against the Deputy Prime Minister,
when you've got Auckland Council busted waving through co governance
in the White Tuckety Rangers mayor of Aalkan completely unaware
it's happening, And when you've got councils like Kluther are
still pumping up rates by sixteen percent after all of
the increases we've already seen and complained about. They've got
(05:25):
an uphill battle. But here's a tip for them. Start
with the rates. If what you want to stop is
a rates cap, Start with the rates cap the rates.
If you want to win this battle against central government,
first step, stop putting uprates.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
We're a funny feeling about what this government's trying to
do at the moment with this sort of thing. They
want people to think that they're doing things about things,
and so if we pay less rates, that'll be good,
we think, but what if it means that we can
(05:58):
actually afford the things that.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Councils should do. And it's a bit like I heard.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
I think Nichola Willis is making some noise about going
oufter the banks for the tax that they're paying. And
my initial thought as soon as I heard that was, yeah,
but if you make them pay more, aren't they then
just going to charge more with all their you know,
fees and interest rates and all that other stuff that
we also don't like them doing.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
It's, you know, we seem to forget that.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
It's a sort of a a it's a what do
they call that in science?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
You know when it's a closed.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
System, and that you know, if you take one bit
out of it somewhere, you've got to add a bit
somewhere else.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
More funny stuff from me there.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Yeah, I'm so hilarious today, right Wellington story now, And
coincidentally enough, I actually spent the weekend in Wellington and
I'm glad I didn't have to go to the emergency
department because I may not have been seen because some
women baby being born.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
So news just out as that Wellington hospital is going
to be cutting maternity beds to make room for ED.
A memo has been leaked that which suggests they're just
doing this for a trial. Basically, how it works is
they've got four pods, they call them pods. They've got
four pods for maternity, and they're going to reduce that
down by one pod and for some I can't quite
figure out how, but theyre can end up with only
(07:18):
two pods for maternity. They say it's absolutely fine. They
say they've got heaps of empty beds, often heaps of
empty beds in the maternity ward. Midwives and obstetricians dispute
that and they say, there's absolutely, absolutely not the case,
and if you start taking beds out, you're just gonna
end up with mums being discharged far too quickly. I
reckon keep an eye on this. I reckon it doesn't happen,
(07:38):
because this is the same hospital that tried to take
the toast away from mums, and you start dicking around
with mums who've just given birth. I reckon it's the
biggest hot potato out there, one off, one off. It's
a lot of hot potatoes in health, but this is
one of the biggest ones. I don't reckon they'll get
away with it.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Not quite sure why it has to be an either
or situation, because in my experience, anytime I've been anywhere
near a childbirth, which is at least two times, it
certainly felt like an emergency.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
I don't know what's what the technical term for.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
It is, but there was a lot of stuff going
on that definitely made me feel like I was in
the middle of an emergency.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
I'm just saying the re rev right.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
So Wimbledon, it seems to be going on for ever.
Wimbledon was that it's only the fourth round. This morning
I saw, surely it's over but no, apparently they're still
waiting to see if the ball was called out or in.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
AI is a problem at Wimbledon at the moment. So
we're going to talk about this with a commentary box
after eight Apparently, so they've got the AI in for
the first time in Wimbledon's history, or they've got something
other than an umpire's eyeball for the first time in
Wimbledon's history. And the AI is supposed to see when
the ball goes out. The problem is the AI can't
see when the ball goes out. The biggest problem seems
(08:53):
to have happened in the fourth man match round between
Cartel and Anastasia pavlio Chenkova. Now pavlio Chinkov served, Cartel
replied to the backhand, the backhand way overshot the service line.
It was about a foot out right foot a foot out.
There's no disputing. We can all see that. You could
see that at the far end, if you're standing up
in the bleachers, you can see a foot out, but
(09:14):
the AI couldn't see it. No intervention from AI. Umpire
told the players to hold play stop stop. The mid
rally stop stop stop had to see if the ball
had gone out. They all stood around kind of twiddling
their thumbs and waving their rackets around for about four
minutes before they were actually able to make a call
on it. It's been criticized by a couple of players
already previously. I think a male player, Emma Radakanu, may
(09:38):
have criticized it as well in the postmatch press conferences.
So I think we have a problem. I don't know
about you, but I think we may have a problem
with the AI.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
So we'll see.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
That's ruined it for everybody. Ain't because we needed that eagle,
I think.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah, so the artificial intelligence is a little bit too
artificial there by the sounds of things, this whole story
didn't quite ring true. And then it turns out that
the explanation as somebody just didn't turn it on, So
it actually wasn't the AI's fault.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
It was good a whole human error.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
So yeah, as I've suspected, the robot apocalypse has probably
already happened, we.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Just didn't notice.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
It's so rewrap and pot off the back of telling
everybody that they've got to use the same charging cable
for their phones, now the EU wants everybody to use
the same cabin bag.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Listen, I love the sound of this. I've got my
fingers crossed that this works. The Europeans are making changes
to hand luggage, and if this goes ahead, then you know,
these good on ideas catch on right it It may
actually spread across the world. They want some standardization because
what's going on is you jump on that flight, you
could take some hand luggage, jump on the next flight.
You can't take hand luggage. People are getting called out
and it's about the size of the hand luggage rather
(10:47):
than being able to take it. So the proposal is
you can actually take two bags to the EU. One
would be a cabin bag which measures up to about
one hundred centimeters and ways up to seven cag's. That's
the one you stick up the top. Then you get
another one you can stick underneath by your feet. It's
an under the seat personal item. Maximum dimensions of forty
x thirty by fifteen centimeters, so it's basically the size
of a small backpack. How good would that be? You
(11:09):
can have one for the all the gear that you need,
because you know what it's like and especially when you're
traveling with children, you need one for the gear that
you need for I don't know, changing the outfits of
face built poop or Coca cola all over themselves, so
that that's like the emergency. And then you've got the
actual like need this every five minutes bag, which is
underneath me.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Actually, now that you mention that you're right, they should
ban people traveling with children.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
It would do me a favor. Then I wouldn't feel
any obligation to travel.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Was of this what happens anyway? I thought there was
more or less what happens anyway. They're not particularly fussy
how many things you happen to be holding in your hands,
as long as it doesn't take out too much space.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
I mean, like I said, I was just in Wellington
over the weekend. The decision was made way above my
head that we would only be taking a one checked
in bag and then putting everything else into a Kevin bag.
But then apparently we could also take a suit bag
and a handbag, oh and a backpack. So yeah, mate,
(12:15):
I think it's probably people like us actually that Europe's going.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
After, and who could blame them?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
We made it back anyway. The plane didn't seem to
fall down, so it seemed to work. I am Glen Hart.
That was the rewrap and beggage allowance allowing. I'll be
back here again tomorrow with another one.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
See then.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
Get over there and welcome to the Rerap for Monday,
All the best butts from the Mic Costing Breakfast on
News Talk ZEDB. Special guest starring Heatherdoop of c Allen.
I am Glenn Hart and today where have we got?
Speaker 3 (00:42):
We've got rates? We're talking rates. I want to talk
about rates this year?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Isn't there the exchange of Wellington Hospital's maternity beds for
Wellington Hospital's E D beds. The AI at Wimbledon is
raising a few eyebrows and the EU is making some
changes to the rules about Cavin Baggs. But before any
of that, so mandatory minimum sentences yay or nay.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
On the government asking for potentially considering minimum sentences. If
they go ahead with this, I would have absolutely no
problem whatsoever. And I realize that the judiciary are not
going to love this a la Sir Ron Young who
was just on with us before, because it's tying their hands.
But that is actually the point, because some of the
sentencing discounts that have been handed down by judges are
(01:34):
frankly outrageous, and the worst case I've come across as
the one that I was talking to Ron about, which
is the case of a rapist to attack the woman
in Albert Park in Auckland Central about three years ago.
This guy was given a discount of seventy seven percent
by the judge. He was discounted for being young, He
was discounted for pleading guilty. He was discounted for being
(01:56):
a good boy before that, which I very much doubt.
He was discounted for being for trying to be better
after that, which I also have my doubts about the defense.
Seventy seven percent actually was not that bad because the
defense lawyer was looking for discounts totaling one hundred and
ten percent. How do you possibly discount more than one
hundred percent? But this is the game that they're playing.
Discounting to that point feels like nothing more than trying
(02:18):
to get as light a sentence as possible.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Now.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
I know that the government has already mandated that the
laws the judges are only able to limit their discounts
to forty percent, but I don't even think that fixes
the problem entirely. Hence, needing a minimum because there are
still ways to gain that right. A judge can simply
start at a very low point discounted to forty percent,
and end up at the low point that they want to.
Judges clearly seem to think that fifteen years in jail
(02:40):
for murder is maybe a little bit much. I don't
think that's a bit much. I think that's life. I
think if you take a life, fifteen years to me
seems like getting off quite lightly. A minimum sets a
bar below which even the craftiest judge can't fall. The
problem with it, obviously, is the risk that that becomes
the default sentence.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Right.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
But if that starts happening, we can deal with that later.
And this is not a novel idea, by the way,
it's not like we're being cruel. They do this in
the States, they do this in the UK, they do
this in Australia, they do this in Singapore, and the
list go on, and I can see now a case
for us doing it too, because if you are discounting
three quarters of a sentence, I think you've got a problem.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
We had the parole bloke on the show today and
it was actually really quite refreshing and refreshing to hear
them talk about actual facts about how much more severe
the sentencing has got over.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
The years, and how.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
You know, many less people that have been led out
early and all that sort of stuff, and that a
lot of it is just sort of.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Dog whistle politics. Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I'm not saying that people should be allowed to get
away with grimes, but yeah, sometimes you think that that's happening,
and it's not necessarily happening. So we wrapped that was
funny stuff, Glen that last you crack everybody up with that.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
That's okay.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Then if I could find something funny to say about
rates or if you either can.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Well, I reckon. Local government's got a bit of a
job on its hands, isn't. It turns out they want
to fight that rates cap idea which the government seems
to have taken a bit of a liking to. Over
the weekend, the Taxpayer's Union got its hands on and
released an internal document which shows that local government is
planning to fight back against that to try to stop
the rates cap. Now, what they're planning to do is
launch a nationwide campaign.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
They say.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Unless they do that, the government is likely to introduce
this rates cap. But they reckon they can stop it.
They've stopped an idea like this before, they stop it
in two thousand and nine, and South Australia managed to
stop it as well. And all it takes, they reckon,
is to step up a gear, be louder and boost
public trusting confidence in local government to convince you and
I that councils are better than central government at making
(04:44):
rates decisions. Well, good luck to them on that, because
that I think is their problem. I don't know that
they can boost public trusting confidence in local government and
convince us so they're better, I reckon. Public confidence in
local government has got to be at its lowest ebb
in ages, don't you think No, I don't know how
they get it back, especially when you've got Tory and
Wellington spending two point three million on disco toilets and
(05:05):
spending the last few months as mayor so distracted that
you launching an online campaign against the Deputy Prime Minister,
when you've got Auckland Council busted waving through co governance
in the White Tuckety Rangers mayor of Aalkan completely unaware
it's happening, And when you've got councils like Kluther are
still pumping up rates by sixteen percent after all of
the increases we've already seen and complained about. They've got
(05:25):
an uphill battle. But here's a tip for them. Start
with the rates. If what you want to stop is
a rates cap, Start with the rates cap the rates.
If you want to win this battle against central government,
first step, stop putting uprates.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
We're a funny feeling about what this government's trying to
do at the moment with this sort of thing. They
want people to think that they're doing things about things,
and so if we pay less rates, that'll be good,
we think, but what if it means that we can
(05:58):
actually afford the things that.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Councils should do. And it's a bit like I heard.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
I think Nichola Willis is making some noise about going
oufter the banks for the tax that they're paying. And
my initial thought as soon as I heard that was, yeah,
but if you make them pay more, aren't they then
just going to charge more with all their you know,
fees and interest rates and all that other stuff that
we also don't like them doing.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
It's, you know, we seem to forget that.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
It's a sort of a a it's a what do
they call that in science?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
You know when it's a closed.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
System, and that you know, if you take one bit
out of it somewhere, you've got to add a bit
somewhere else.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
More funny stuff from me there.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Yeah, I'm so hilarious today, right Wellington story now, And
coincidentally enough, I actually spent the weekend in Wellington and
I'm glad I didn't have to go to the emergency
department because I may not have been seen because some
women baby being born.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
So news just out as that Wellington hospital is going
to be cutting maternity beds to make room for ED.
A memo has been leaked that which suggests they're just
doing this for a trial. Basically, how it works is
they've got four pods, they call them pods. They've got
four pods for maternity, and they're going to reduce that
down by one pod and for some I can't quite
figure out how, but theyre can end up with only
(07:18):
two pods for maternity. They say it's absolutely fine. They
say they've got heaps of empty beds, often heaps of
empty beds in the maternity ward. Midwives and obstetricians dispute
that and they say, there's absolutely, absolutely not the case,
and if you start taking beds out, you're just gonna
end up with mums being discharged far too quickly. I
reckon keep an eye on this. I reckon it doesn't happen,
(07:38):
because this is the same hospital that tried to take
the toast away from mums, and you start dicking around
with mums who've just given birth. I reckon it's the
biggest hot potato out there, one off, one off. It's
a lot of hot potatoes in health, but this is
one of the biggest ones. I don't reckon they'll get
away with it.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Not quite sure why it has to be an either
or situation, because in my experience, anytime I've been anywhere
near a childbirth, which is at least two times, it
certainly felt like an emergency.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
I don't know what's what the technical term for.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
It is, but there was a lot of stuff going
on that definitely made me feel like I was in
the middle of an emergency.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
I'm just saying the re rev right.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
So Wimbledon, it seems to be going on for ever.
Wimbledon was that it's only the fourth round. This morning
I saw, surely it's over but no, apparently they're still
waiting to see if the ball was called out or in.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
AI is a problem at Wimbledon at the moment. So
we're going to talk about this with a commentary box
after eight Apparently, so they've got the AI in for
the first time in Wimbledon's history, or they've got something
other than an umpire's eyeball for the first time in
Wimbledon's history. And the AI is supposed to see when
the ball goes out. The problem is the AI can't
see when the ball goes out. The biggest problem seems
(08:53):
to have happened in the fourth man match round between
Cartel and Anastasia pavlio Chenkova. Now pavlio Chinkov served, Cartel
replied to the backhand, the backhand way overshot the service line.
It was about a foot out right foot a foot out.
There's no disputing. We can all see that. You could
see that at the far end, if you're standing up
in the bleachers, you can see a foot out, but
(09:14):
the AI couldn't see it. No intervention from AI. Umpire
told the players to hold play stop stop. The mid
rally stop stop stop had to see if the ball
had gone out. They all stood around kind of twiddling
their thumbs and waving their rackets around for about four
minutes before they were actually able to make a call
on it. It's been criticized by a couple of players
already previously. I think a male player, Emma Radakanu, may
(09:38):
have criticized it as well in the postmatch press conferences.
So I think we have a problem. I don't know
about you, but I think we may have a problem
with the AI.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
So we'll see.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
That's ruined it for everybody. Ain't because we needed that eagle,
I think.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah, so the artificial intelligence is a little bit too
artificial there by the sounds of things, this whole story
didn't quite ring true. And then it turns out that
the explanation as somebody just didn't turn it on, So
it actually wasn't the AI's fault.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
It was good a whole human error.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
So yeah, as I've suspected, the robot apocalypse has probably
already happened, we.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Just didn't notice.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
It's so rewrap and pot off the back of telling
everybody that they've got to use the same charging cable
for their phones, now the EU wants everybody to use
the same cabin bag.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Listen, I love the sound of this. I've got my
fingers crossed that this works. The Europeans are making changes
to hand luggage, and if this goes ahead, then you know,
these good on ideas catch on right it It may
actually spread across the world. They want some standardization because
what's going on is you jump on that flight, you
could take some hand luggage, jump on the next flight.
You can't take hand luggage. People are getting called out
and it's about the size of the hand luggage rather
(10:47):
than being able to take it. So the proposal is
you can actually take two bags to the EU. One
would be a cabin bag which measures up to about
one hundred centimeters and ways up to seven cag's. That's
the one you stick up the top. Then you get
another one you can stick underneath by your feet. It's
an under the seat personal item. Maximum dimensions of forty
x thirty by fifteen centimeters, so it's basically the size
of a small backpack. How good would that be? You
(11:09):
can have one for the all the gear that you need,
because you know what it's like and especially when you're
traveling with children, you need one for the gear that
you need for I don't know, changing the outfits of
face built poop or Coca cola all over themselves, so
that that's like the emergency. And then you've got the
actual like need this every five minutes bag, which is
underneath me.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Actually, now that you mention that you're right, they should
ban people traveling with children.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
It would do me a favor. Then I wouldn't feel
any obligation to travel.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Was of this what happens anyway? I thought there was
more or less what happens anyway. They're not particularly fussy
how many things you happen to be holding in your hands,
as long as it doesn't take out too much space.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
I mean, like I said, I was just in Wellington
over the weekend. The decision was made way above my
head that we would only be taking a one checked
in bag and then putting everything else into a Kevin bag.
But then apparently we could also take a suit bag
and a handbag, oh and a backpack. So yeah, mate,
(12:15):
I think it's probably people like us actually that Europe's going.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
After, and who could blame them?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
We made it back anyway. The plane didn't seem to
fall down, so it seemed to work. I am Glen Hart.
That was the rewrap and beggage allowance allowing. I'll be
back here again tomorrow with another one.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
See then.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
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