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THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Wednesday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) No Matter How Much We Want To/How Is He Still In Charge?/Prime Time/What If Gas Comes Back?/What If Cameras Come Back?
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk zed B.
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Rewrap there and welcome to the Rewrap for Wednesday or
the Best, but it's from the Mic Hosking Breakfast on
News Dog zed B and A Sillier Pecker John Glenn Hart,
And today we ask, because Chris Hopkins really the best
that Laver can do, we introduced a new segment called
Primetime the Guess because we've really got ourselves into quiet
(00:47):
situation with the guests supply, although we.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Might be able to get out.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Of it, and then what do we do?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
And some heritage brands that are basically going out of
business in the States. But before any of that, back
to Palestine, our handwringing is definitely going to have an
effect on what's going on over there.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
Right, Mike, can you pass on to David Seymour that
a huge amount of New Zealand is a feeling the
shame his government can't join all those other countries recognizing
Gaza and by the way, Gaza is not spelt Garza.
But when you say the shame, the shame of what
what is it?
Speaker 4 (01:24):
You want?
Speaker 5 (01:25):
What is it what's the point. Are you literally just
wanting us to join a queue of people who have
done the same thing. So you like tokenism, you're a
fan of tokenism. I mean, declare it if you want.
I couldn't kill I honestly couldn't care less. I mean
this has been going on literally for decades, or if
you want to broaden the discussion out for hundreds, if
(01:45):
not thousands of years, nothing essentially has changed, and New
Zealand standing there going we recognize Palestine as a state,
will make not one jot of difference to anything. Therefore,
in a country with a vast wealth of really important
issues to deal with, why do we keep getting angsty
and exercising about it? I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Shame that that person was talking about rehegizing Gaza, which
is not the issue. Then that's before they couldn't spell
it correctly. Of course it's Palestine which is the issue.
But other than that, we're so on top of this
whole issue.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
It's so rewrapped.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
I'm not sure what issues Chris Hipkins is on top of,
because he didn't seem to be on top of any
of them.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
Chris Hipkins came on well, became undone, I thought yesterday
two times and you would hope, given there's literally no
pressure on him right now, and basically he gets to
spend his days baking the government. He might want to
sharpen up it, but given next year is going to
be a whole different kettle of fish. So mistake number one.
He attempted to gain points on Palestine by suggesting David
Seymour was holding the government to some sort of ransom
and if it wasn't for the veto, they would have
(02:53):
declared support for statehood by now. Now what Seymour said
was Hamas would need to be demilitarized. Now, apart from
the fact that's not radical or new or an already
widely held view by many who want to recognize Palestine,
what is it hipkins are saying he does mind her
Mass or he Mass being a terror group? Would he
be happy with the two state solution with he Mass
at the control panel? If he does, no problem, say
(03:14):
so bet you we won't. Though mistake number two, for
reasons best known to himself, he got trapped into a
discussion about his tax policy. What tax policy you're asking exactly,
but he somehow managed to suggest that even though there
isn't a tax policy. What there is is broad agreement
around a wealth tax and a capital against tax. And
then the bullet in the foot. He couldn't rule in
(03:36):
or out the possibility that the family home was part
of that tax capture. Now tip one drop the Middle East.
No voter has moved in this country on a place
that has been a disaster z own for decades. And the
more you look like you tolerate terrorists, the more you
put Middle New Zealand off you. Then mistake number two.
If you're stupid enough to even hint that a family
(03:57):
home could be part of a new tax, give up
right now because you toast. As history shows, a CGT
with a family home exempt has been trialed and rejected
multiple times by his own own party. Irony of ironies,
it was Hepkins himself with the Captain's call that dropped
it last time. So not only is he clearly not
committed or convinced, he seemingly may have been hijacked by
(04:18):
some left leaning radicals inside his own camp to get
the family home involved. So a party that can tolerate
him us and tax your family home, I could possibly
go wrong.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah, I think they were doing better when they literally
weren't saying anything about anything.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
I've watched a.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Lot of politics over the years, and generally the people
who don't comment, don't have an opinion, don't.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Even seem to have any policies. They go quite well rewrap.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Maybe that's the strategy that Willow Gene Prime was taking
by not turning up to Volent yesterday.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Right it is time for so the new one from
Willow Jane is she claimed that fight clubs and significant
meth use was going on in youth justice facilities. Big
claim from Willow Gene Trime, fight clubs and significant meth
(05:11):
use in youth justice facilities. Karen Shaw, Minister in charge,
is asked for more information. However, none of it can
be substantiated by Oranga Tamariki officials the Children's Commission, who
independently monitor the facilities, are also unaware of meth in
(05:32):
the residences and hadn't heard of fight clubs at all
since twenty twenty three, which of course was when Labor
were in charge. So maybe when they were in charge
there were some fight clubs and some methews. Anyway, so
Karen Shaw says, we'll give us the deets. Willow Gene.
Hope she did an email her, because that's going to
take a long time. She's give me the deeps, Willow Gene.
(05:53):
But Prime, she's been unable to provide anything other than
saying her concerns were based on information from a credible source.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
With the fight club reference.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Is this just a case of Willow Jean being the
credible source and she's gone off to ask herself just
much the same way that Edward Norton was talking to
himself the whole time in Folk Club.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
At what point does Chrishipkins start shaking his head or
put his head in his hands and going no, no,
no, no no now. Funnily enough, yesterday Willow Jean, who's normally fronted
up for some questions in question time, wasn't there no
questions from Willow Jeane yesterday? So I wonder if she's
been benched because she's become a little bit embarrassing.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Did you like my little Prime Time saying? I made
that up?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
During an ad break he said he was going to
talk about Willow jen Prime. We suggested that maybe it
could be a regular segment called Prime Time.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
I made that little idea up.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
What do you mean that can't be that difficult, all right,
let's move on the rewrap if you like me. I've
got gas hot water, and I've got a gas hobs
in my house, and I'm wondering how long those are
to keep working? Shall I rip them out and replace them?
And if I then do that, well, what happens if
the gas comes back on again?
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Never takes long to find the bank of the taxpayer.
Don't you reckon the Green Building Council. We'll talk to
them later. The Green Building Council has lined up the
government for lord knows how many millions of dollars so
we can audit our gas heaters, buy heat pumps and
save us all one money and two apparently the gas
industry are We talked yesterday with businesses who use gas.
Some are looking to convert, some want discretionary loans from
(07:35):
you know who. Major gas users met the minister last Friday.
I assume to state the obvious that we don't have
enough gas, so something needs to be done. Just what
the something is no one seems to know, given I've
been given no clear answer so far to a fairly
simple question I've asked a number of times over the
past couple of weeks now. At the big level, like
method X or balance, I don't know there is an answer.
(07:55):
I mean you either pay the price or presumably pass
it on, or you don't and close down. At the
smaller level, does a grower of something need a government
loan or a handout? Should a grower not have seen
the price of gas and thought to themselves, H I
might like to inquire about an alternative you do, I
guess get that interface between business being for personal good
versus wider good like jobs and produce for the country,
(08:17):
and what role the government might play in that. At
a personal level, we use gas at our place price
as a joke. We may or may not need to
look at something different. But meantime, I am prepared to
foot the bill and I've got no desire to seek
help from the government. If the Green Building Council or
right and we all switch to electricity as supplied by rain,
wouldn't life be great? But we all know it's not
that easy. We all know the renewable journey has been
(08:38):
and remains a cluster. We all know a variety of circumstances.
A coalest to provide the sort of business environment that
leads to big bills, big cutbacks, job losses, and lack
of growth. It's an open question, I guess, as to
how much of the lack of gas is about the
labor party and the killing of an industry versus what
we already had running out faster than we thought. But
is it possible we could just have a mindset change
(09:01):
whereby the taxpayer isn't always the first cab off the
rank to cover yet more lack of foresight and planning.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah, that's what I would like, some foresight and planning.
I've been I was talking about this and that very
very popular podcast News Dogs have been this morning. I
was talking about how I've seen the local body election
signs around the place, the billboards, and they say stuff
like lower rates or fixed Auckland. But maybe if if
(09:34):
just somebody said more planning, I might be into that rewrap.
So it's basically it's closing time for a couple of
heritage brands in the States.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Here's Mike with the details on those.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
A couple of things out of America AOL America on online.
They're going to wind up this service after thirty years.
You know the little chirpy sound you used to get
this fewer than three hundred thousand people left in America
now with dial up, compete with three hundred million with broadband.
Thanks for the memories rip. That was the AOL co
founder Steve case yesterday. So as of the thirtieth of September,
(10:13):
that's over. And i'll tell you what else is almost over.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Kodak.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
There's a name Eastman, Kodak. They had an earnings report yesterday.
They don't have committed financing or available liquidity to pay
the half a billion dollar debt that's upcoming. So the
substantial quote unquote substantial doubt about the company's ability to
continue as a going concern. They're thinking they can conjure
up a bit of cash by asceeising payments to the
(10:38):
retirement pension plan incorporated in eighteen ninety two. The routes
actually go back to eighteen seventy nine when George has
An Eastman first took out a paytent for a plate
coating machine, and then in eighteen eighty eight he sold
the first Kodak camera for twenty five dollars. If you
ever want to see someone who didn't sort of be evolved
with the times, that would be them. And it looks
like it's probably coming to an end.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
It's funny as when you look back to the dial
up internet days. Kids, you don't understand what this is about.
But you used to have to make sure that.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
You'd disconnected from the Internet before we went to bed
in case you accidentally left it on for a whole day,
and then you'd have to get a second mortgage to
pay you internet bell.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Those were the days.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
And yeah, and I wonder if Kodak was just hoping
for a sort of a retro renaissance with the cameras.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Let's I see.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I keep reading articles that people are into physical cameras,
actual cameras, and then.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
I know.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Because I keep, you know, sort of a half an
eye on tech developments and stuff, and sometimes they talk
about the latest camera technology.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Man, it's expensive.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Who could afford their hobby, So I guess that it
means it will be successful. It's like, you know how
vinyls back in and the LPs cost about four times
as much as they used to when I used to
buy them that the first time around. Anyway, Codek couldn't
quite hang on for that to be right back in
vogue again. They'll be kicking themselves in a couple of
(12:05):
years time, and everybody's got.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
A got a camera hanging around there met the seat
of a phone.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
I am can you listen to podcasts on a camera?
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Though?
Speaker 2 (12:13):
No, no, you can't, can you? So yeah, I don't
see I don't see that much future in it.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
I am a Gillian hat.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
That was the rewrap and we'll do it again tomorrow.
You can't get it on LP.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Either now that I think a rep
Speaker 1 (12:33):
For more from News Talks at b Listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk zed B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Rewrap there and welcome to the Rewrap for Wednesday or
the Best, but it's from the Mic Hosking Breakfast on
News Dog zed B and A Sillier Pecker John Glenn Hart,
And today we ask, because Chris Hopkins really the best
that Laver can do, we introduced a new segment called
Primetime the Guess because we've really got ourselves into quiet
(00:47):
situation with the guests supply, although we.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Might be able to get out.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Of it, and then what do we do?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
And some heritage brands that are basically going out of
business in the States. But before any of that, back
to Palestine, our handwringing is definitely going to have an
effect on what's going on over there.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
Right, Mike, can you pass on to David Seymour that
a huge amount of New Zealand is a feeling the
shame his government can't join all those other countries recognizing
Gaza and by the way, Gaza is not spelt Garza.
But when you say the shame, the shame of what
what is it?
Speaker 4 (01:24):
You want?
Speaker 5 (01:25):
What is it what's the point. Are you literally just
wanting us to join a queue of people who have
done the same thing. So you like tokenism, you're a
fan of tokenism. I mean, declare it if you want.
I couldn't kill I honestly couldn't care less. I mean
this has been going on literally for decades, or if
you want to broaden the discussion out for hundreds, if
(01:45):
not thousands of years, nothing essentially has changed, and New
Zealand standing there going we recognize Palestine as a state,
will make not one jot of difference to anything. Therefore,
in a country with a vast wealth of really important
issues to deal with, why do we keep getting angsty
and exercising about it? I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Shame that that person was talking about rehegizing Gaza, which
is not the issue. Then that's before they couldn't spell
it correctly. Of course it's Palestine which is the issue.
But other than that, we're so on top of this
whole issue.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
It's so rewrapped.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
I'm not sure what issues Chris Hipkins is on top of,
because he didn't seem to be on top of any
of them.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
Chris Hipkins came on well, became undone, I thought yesterday
two times and you would hope, given there's literally no
pressure on him right now, and basically he gets to
spend his days baking the government. He might want to
sharpen up it, but given next year is going to
be a whole different kettle of fish. So mistake number one.
He attempted to gain points on Palestine by suggesting David
Seymour was holding the government to some sort of ransom
and if it wasn't for the veto, they would have
(02:53):
declared support for statehood by now. Now what Seymour said
was Hamas would need to be demilitarized. Now, apart from
the fact that's not radical or new or an already
widely held view by many who want to recognize Palestine,
what is it hipkins are saying he does mind her
Mass or he Mass being a terror group? Would he
be happy with the two state solution with he Mass
at the control panel? If he does, no problem, say
(03:14):
so bet you we won't. Though mistake number two, for
reasons best known to himself, he got trapped into a
discussion about his tax policy. What tax policy you're asking exactly,
but he somehow managed to suggest that even though there
isn't a tax policy. What there is is broad agreement
around a wealth tax and a capital against tax. And
then the bullet in the foot. He couldn't rule in
(03:36):
or out the possibility that the family home was part
of that tax capture. Now tip one drop the Middle East.
No voter has moved in this country on a place
that has been a disaster z own for decades. And the
more you look like you tolerate terrorists, the more you
put Middle New Zealand off you. Then mistake number two.
If you're stupid enough to even hint that a family
(03:57):
home could be part of a new tax, give up
right now because you toast. As history shows, a CGT
with a family home exempt has been trialed and rejected
multiple times by his own own party. Irony of ironies,
it was Hepkins himself with the Captain's call that dropped
it last time. So not only is he clearly not
committed or convinced, he seemingly may have been hijacked by
(04:18):
some left leaning radicals inside his own camp to get
the family home involved. So a party that can tolerate
him us and tax your family home, I could possibly
go wrong.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah, I think they were doing better when they literally
weren't saying anything about anything.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
I've watched a.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Lot of politics over the years, and generally the people
who don't comment, don't have an opinion, don't.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Even seem to have any policies. They go quite well rewrap.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Maybe that's the strategy that Willow Gene Prime was taking
by not turning up to Volent yesterday.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Right it is time for so the new one from
Willow Jane is she claimed that fight clubs and significant
meth use was going on in youth justice facilities. Big
claim from Willow Gene Trime, fight clubs and significant meth
(05:11):
use in youth justice facilities. Karen Shaw, Minister in charge,
is asked for more information. However, none of it can
be substantiated by Oranga Tamariki officials the Children's Commission, who
independently monitor the facilities, are also unaware of meth in
(05:32):
the residences and hadn't heard of fight clubs at all
since twenty twenty three, which of course was when Labor
were in charge. So maybe when they were in charge
there were some fight clubs and some methews. Anyway, so
Karen Shaw says, we'll give us the deets. Willow Gene.
Hope she did an email her, because that's going to
take a long time. She's give me the deeps, Willow Gene.
(05:53):
But Prime, she's been unable to provide anything other than
saying her concerns were based on information from a credible source.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
With the fight club reference.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Is this just a case of Willow Jean being the
credible source and she's gone off to ask herself just
much the same way that Edward Norton was talking to
himself the whole time in Folk Club.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
At what point does Chrishipkins start shaking his head or
put his head in his hands and going no, no,
no, no no now. Funnily enough, yesterday Willow Jean, who's normally fronted
up for some questions in question time, wasn't there no
questions from Willow Jeane yesterday? So I wonder if she's
been benched because she's become a little bit embarrassing.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Did you like my little Prime Time saying? I made
that up?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
During an ad break he said he was going to
talk about Willow jen Prime. We suggested that maybe it
could be a regular segment called Prime Time.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
I made that little idea up.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
What do you mean that can't be that difficult, all right,
let's move on the rewrap if you like me. I've
got gas hot water, and I've got a gas hobs
in my house, and I'm wondering how long those are
to keep working? Shall I rip them out and replace them?
And if I then do that, well, what happens if
the gas comes back on again?
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Never takes long to find the bank of the taxpayer.
Don't you reckon the Green Building Council. We'll talk to
them later. The Green Building Council has lined up the
government for lord knows how many millions of dollars so
we can audit our gas heaters, buy heat pumps and
save us all one money and two apparently the gas
industry are We talked yesterday with businesses who use gas.
Some are looking to convert, some want discretionary loans from
(07:35):
you know who. Major gas users met the minister last Friday.
I assume to state the obvious that we don't have
enough gas, so something needs to be done. Just what
the something is no one seems to know, given I've
been given no clear answer so far to a fairly
simple question I've asked a number of times over the
past couple of weeks now. At the big level, like
method X or balance, I don't know there is an answer.
(07:55):
I mean you either pay the price or presumably pass
it on, or you don't and close down. At the
smaller level, does a grower of something need a government
loan or a handout? Should a grower not have seen
the price of gas and thought to themselves, H I
might like to inquire about an alternative you do, I
guess get that interface between business being for personal good
versus wider good like jobs and produce for the country,
(08:17):
and what role the government might play in that. At
a personal level, we use gas at our place price
as a joke. We may or may not need to
look at something different. But meantime, I am prepared to
foot the bill and I've got no desire to seek
help from the government. If the Green Building Council or
right and we all switch to electricity as supplied by rain,
wouldn't life be great? But we all know it's not
that easy. We all know the renewable journey has been
(08:38):
and remains a cluster. We all know a variety of circumstances.
A coalest to provide the sort of business environment that
leads to big bills, big cutbacks, job losses, and lack
of growth. It's an open question, I guess, as to
how much of the lack of gas is about the
labor party and the killing of an industry versus what
we already had running out faster than we thought. But
is it possible we could just have a mindset change
(09:01):
whereby the taxpayer isn't always the first cab off the
rank to cover yet more lack of foresight and planning.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah, that's what I would like, some foresight and planning.
I've been I was talking about this and that very
very popular podcast News Dogs have been this morning. I
was talking about how I've seen the local body election
signs around the place, the billboards, and they say stuff
like lower rates or fixed Auckland. But maybe if if
(09:34):
just somebody said more planning, I might be into that rewrap.
So it's basically it's closing time for a couple of
heritage brands in the States.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Here's Mike with the details on those.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
A couple of things out of America AOL America on online.
They're going to wind up this service after thirty years.
You know the little chirpy sound you used to get
this fewer than three hundred thousand people left in America
now with dial up, compete with three hundred million with broadband.
Thanks for the memories rip. That was the AOL co
founder Steve case yesterday. So as of the thirtieth of September,
(10:13):
that's over. And i'll tell you what else is almost over.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Kodak.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
There's a name Eastman, Kodak. They had an earnings report yesterday.
They don't have committed financing or available liquidity to pay
the half a billion dollar debt that's upcoming. So the
substantial quote unquote substantial doubt about the company's ability to
continue as a going concern. They're thinking they can conjure
up a bit of cash by asceeising payments to the
(10:38):
retirement pension plan incorporated in eighteen ninety two. The routes
actually go back to eighteen seventy nine when George has
An Eastman first took out a paytent for a plate
coating machine, and then in eighteen eighty eight he sold
the first Kodak camera for twenty five dollars. If you
ever want to see someone who didn't sort of be evolved
with the times, that would be them. And it looks
like it's probably coming to an end.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
It's funny as when you look back to the dial
up internet days. Kids, you don't understand what this is about.
But you used to have to make sure that.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
You'd disconnected from the Internet before we went to bed
in case you accidentally left it on for a whole day,
and then you'd have to get a second mortgage to
pay you internet bell.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Those were the days.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
And yeah, and I wonder if Kodak was just hoping
for a sort of a retro renaissance with the cameras.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Let's I see.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I keep reading articles that people are into physical cameras,
actual cameras, and then.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
I know.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Because I keep, you know, sort of a half an
eye on tech developments and stuff, and sometimes they talk
about the latest camera technology.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Man, it's expensive.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Who could afford their hobby, So I guess that it
means it will be successful. It's like, you know how
vinyls back in and the LPs cost about four times
as much as they used to when I used to
buy them that the first time around. Anyway, Codek couldn't
quite hang on for that to be right back in
vogue again. They'll be kicking themselves in a couple of
(12:05):
years time, and everybody's got.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
A got a camera hanging around there met the seat
of a phone.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
I am can you listen to podcasts on a camera?
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Though?
Speaker 2 (12:13):
No, no, you can't, can you? So yeah, I don't
see I don't see that much future in it.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
I am a Gillian hat.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
That was the rewrap and we'll do it again tomorrow.
You can't get it on LP.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Either now that I think a rep
Speaker 1 (12:33):
For more from News Talks at b Listen live on
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