August 17, 2025 • 13 mins
THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Monday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) Poll'o'Rama/The Problem with RNZ/But Can They Win Hosk Back?/Eating Anecdotally/Are You the Next TOP Leader?
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Rewrap.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Okay there, welcome to the Rewrap for Monday. All the
best that's from the mic asking breakfast on news Talks.
It'd be in a sillier package. I am Glenn Hart
and Today Radio New Zealand going from terrible to even
terribler The Warriors one but only just how does that
bode as we head into the the what do they
(00:49):
call it? The pointy end of the season hospitality succeeding
or failing?
Speaker 4 (00:54):
And who will be tops next leader? But before any
of that, polls a bunch of poles.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
In spite of my pleading that we don't take any
notice of poles, that we stop doing poles, they keep coming.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Three poles. You want three poles. So as regards the
aforementioned Robertson Hipkins, et cetera, and that disgrace as to
whether they should have fronted the COVID inquiry poll out
over the weekend fifty three twenty eight, does that surprise you?
Nineteen don't know? That will be their great hope, that'll
be the advice they're getting from Denton's the lawyers. Of course,
that people have moved on and next year an election year,
(01:31):
they don't feel bad about it anymore, that they don't
care anymore. But fifty three to twenty eight, twenty eight
agree with their decision, fifty three don't agree with it,
So that's fairly compelling, I would argue. Then we've got
a poll this morning and at two poles in Australia.
One's a news poll forty two percent so that the
US tariffs are of more concern than the Chinese military
(01:52):
build up. So I suppose that's got something to do
with the real world and real life in the price
of your groceries or your car, or your house or whatever.
So forty two percent think the US tariffs are more
important than the Chinese military build up. So it's forty
two to thirty seven, twenty one don't know. It's split
conservatives or worried about the Chinese. But then you've got
Elbin EASi and this is one of them. This is
(02:14):
a zeitgeist thing. As far as I can work out,
Elbin EASi is getting more popular by the day. For
a guy who struggled in his first term at times
looked like a shambles. He won the election one at well,
and then this morning's poll there're up another two points
primary vote to thirty seven. The coalition's primary steady on
(02:34):
twenty nine and one Nation is up a little bit.
In fact, they're up three to nine. And the rest
of his increases come from the minor parties where the
support is fading away on the two party preferred, which
is what they base it on. Of course, fifty nine
forty one. It's a thrashing. So not only did he
win a gargantuan victory in the election, if they would
(02:55):
hold election today he would get even more seats. How
do you explain that? And when I say the zeitgeist,
is it just one of those things. Once you perceive
in your mind he looks like a winner, therefore he is.
Could that be the reverse of luxeant? Once you perceive
he's not doing that well, therefore he isn't. And whether
it's true or not doesn't matter. It's just it's a vibe.
(03:17):
It's marbo. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
But I mean, look at the rabble trying to oppose them,
but there's nobody.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
There's just so much.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
I don't understand Australian politics at all, and I don't
reckon anybody in Australia does either. I think the whole
thing is exactly like Rake, the satirical TV show, and
they're all a bunch of political wonks and absolutely.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
No resemblance to the Australian person on the street. There
you go, I've said my piece.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
It's a rewrap.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Back Here in New Zealand, we have a national radio station,
several stations. Actually, why do they know what they're doing?
Speaker 2 (03:58):
I've read a report commissioned by Radio New Zealand Radio
new Zealand to look into why their operations become such
a dumpster fire. So it said a bunch of stuff
that was obvious. I thought, anyway, one thing that's ed
and saddened me. Though most people within that organization thought
radio was dying, audiences were bailing. This is not true.
This is not true. In fact, it's the opposite. Radio
(04:21):
is robust and comparatively speaking, thriving. So my question is,
how is it you can have a company of people
who don't understand their own industry. Where did they get
their view from? Why has no one corrected the view?
Where's management in this process? Their audience has shrunk? But
it hasn't vanished. This is the key to all of
this has gone well, it's mainly come here actually, To
(04:42):
be honest, the customer is still spending, if you like,
they've just changed shops. The fact they don't know that,
I would have thought should have set off alarm bells
a long time ago, most ironically, because the place is
full of journalists who once upon a time had inquiring minds.
They asked questions, They wanted to know things. If you
have such a mind, you would have quickly discovered what
(05:02):
was actually happening, what the reality of your medium was.
How can you be a journalist and be that bewildered?
And if you are that bewildered on your own doorstep,
how bewildered are you about the rest of life and
the rest of the world. Also of concern was management's
response to the report. The report, by the way, basically
says the place is shot. It needs a bomb and
some genuine talent. The response suggests what Radio and New
(05:25):
Zealand management do is what they do quite well is
commission reports and ignore them. So the exercise as a
whole appears a bit of a waste of time. They
got told some obvious stuff they should have known. An
alarming thing about their staff that they should have also known.
But now they do know they need to fix it.
And as for the report itself, all the rest of
(05:45):
it seems a little bit tricky for them for me.
I mean, look, they can do whatever they like. I
don't care. But what I care about is that this
industry is actually successful. Some of us are actually having
the time of our life. Some of us know what's
going on and understand proceedings. Some of us still ask
a few questions. The future is bright and it's there
for anyone who wants it, But to want it, you've
got to be keen and you've got to be awake.
(06:06):
And that might be their biggest problem.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Yeah, why would you work for something that you know
isn't working, or that you think isn't working, or that
you think is dying? A rewrap? Is that what the
warriors are doing? Are they playing for a team that
they know isn't quite firing?
Speaker 4 (06:25):
At least? I guess they're hoping that it's going to
get better.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
We're in a real quandary at the moment, aren't we.
The Dragons were what better than we thought? The opening
break where they spilled the ball that was a precursor
of things to come. Are their opening try or try
to show pace expansion the work of a quality team.
They lit at halftime rightly, so I thought our tries,
especially the first with that mad unstructured razzle dazzle of
old but it tries to try upshot is either. It
(06:49):
was a good game. Actually it was exciting. He had
a showmanship about it. Not a lot of points, but
plenty of high drama. And the good news is, of
course we win. Now here's the issue. What does it
say about a side that can lose three then when
one and still be in the top four, not just
the eight, not just scrapping desperately for some last chance
playoff spot, but the top or only good sides get
(07:10):
to that sort of position. Also based on the run
in versus the run in for some of the other sides,
we have to be good for at least four more points,
maybe fingers cross six points. The others, as the Panthers
and the Bulldogs found out, don't have that luxury. So
all things being equal, we find ourselves do we not
in a unique position? What if we're in the four
but we haven't beaten the sides we will eventually face
(07:31):
for the title. Is a soft run, even if it's
a clean sweep, a soft run in enough of a
runway to have us believe that we can suddenly play
and beat sides we haven't been able to beat all year.
What about the injuries? How many of these ones who
might be back before the end of the season have
to come back to bolster a ravage side to give
us a sense that we are in fact suddenly good
enough to do what until now we haven't been able
(07:51):
to do. Yes, the run to the finals is the key.
The team's on the up? Are the ones who will win?
Are we a team on the up? Could we be
a team on the up? So the dilemma, I've already
said it, said it last week. This isn't our year.
It might be a good year, could be bordering on
an excellent year. But could I be wrong? Surely top
four deserves more hope and more expectation than I'm giving them.
So is this year open question?
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Well?
Speaker 3 (08:17):
If Australia's performance against South Africa over the weekend to
it us that anything can happen in sport, especially if
there's match fixing involved, Did I say that I don't
know why I said that. I was just thinking about well,
cricket boxing, not necessarily rugby, the re wrapped.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Right, We've got some more.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Green shoots, have we. How's it going with hospitality? It
seems like every time Might leaves his house he can't
get a table anywhere.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
So the spending in major cities, this is eating up.
This is hospo year on year July twenty four to
July twenty five, increases all over the place, Cafes, restaurants
caving fast Foo during the whole thing, largest annual increases.
Hamilton's up nine point six two percent. I mean, you know,
cost of living crisis. No one's out, no one can
afford anything wrong, wrong, wrong and wrong. Hamilton up nine
(09:10):
point six two percent. Queenstown up eight point five to three.
If anyone was supposed to be booming, its Queenstown up
eight point five three percent. But Hamilton beats them. Christ
you ch up over seven percent. Wellington, even Wellington up
over five percent, Towering is up virtually six percent, Donners
is up five and a half. Even Auckland, the beleagued
old downtown Auckland downtown, there's nobody there. Shoot a bullet
(09:32):
and you had nobody. Auckland is up three point eight
two percent, and of course, given the size of the market,
three point eight two percent of one and a half
million people's a lot of dollars, very strong signal that
key weis are once again opening the walls. Now here's
the weird thing about that. Anecdotally, and this is the
way I always worry about anecdotes, is anecdotally, I would
have said that, I mean every time I go out,
(09:52):
which admittedly isn't that often, but certainly on the weekends,
and you go to the markets, you go to the cafes,
you go to the restaurants. Getting a table is and
has been hard yards for a very long period of time.
And so you're festooned with this idea that everyone's miserable
and the economy shot and nobody's doing anything. But you
look at the statistics of travel. The statistics on travel
(10:13):
are indisputable, undeniable. I mean, we're on a plane every
second day. We cannot get around the world fast enough,
and it costs a fortune, but we're seemingly we've got
the money and the inclination to do it. And the
other thing you do notice is people are out and
about and they're eating, and they're drinking. They're seemingly having
a good time. And at long last, and this is
the next time the hospitality people put out another one
of their press release of saying how miserable everything is
(10:36):
and they can't find anybody to work and it's just
all do it. It's bollocks. I mean, numbers don't lie,
don't they. I mean, those are major, major increases in expenditure.
It's good to see. Don't get me wrong, it's all
good news.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
I mean, if Mike.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Huskin can't get a table, how can any of us
get a table?
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Does he not play there? Don't you know who I am? Card? Actually,
now that I think of it, does he play there?
Speaker 3 (10:59):
And that's why he's not getting a table? Of course
he should stop paying their card. The re wrap right,
So jobs, vacant cuations, vacant leader of a political party
that is actually doing surprisingly well on the poll at
the moment, considering they don't have a leader.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Would you want to be the head of the top party,
even if you hadn't thought about it before. It was
one of those jobs. Because they're advertising the Opportunities Party,
this was that you go back to Gareth Morgan, Jeff Simmons,
you go who And that was part of their problem,
of course, because when Jeff became the leader, Raf Mangi
last time, very well known name in christ Jutch Raff.
But they didn't do anything. They've never really done anything,
(11:36):
even under Gareth Morgan. The problem was always their tax policy,
which no one could explain properly. And when they started
explaining it, you've sort of lost the will to live. Anyway,
they if you are not up on the side of
the story. They're looking for a leader. A political party
is looking for a leader, and they're advertising the job
currently on seek whereas I don't know, is that desperate?
(11:58):
Is it clever? But here's the other thing. Do you
know who they have campaign managers? Guess who their campaign
manager is, Ian Lee's Galloway, Remember that name, Ian Le's
Ian I didn't read the report in time. Lee's Galloway.
He's now turned up at top. Do you move from
labor to top? Does that surprise you? Do you move from
a labor party at the top party, it's top sen
(12:19):
the left or center right, anyway.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Depends on the leader they select. I suppose is this
not your big.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Chance, it's funny you should say that clean.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Are you taking their calls? Is that why they've had
to go to seek? Maybe that would help him with
the whole you know, getting into flash restaurants if he
was actually the last time I went to a flash
work restaurant whence Peter was there and he had a
better table than I did, that's for sure to say,
I am Glenn Hart.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
That was the rewrap. We'll do it. I'll shy reserve
your table for tomorrow and come back and do it.
Then you'll use your.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Rewrap.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Okay there, welcome to the Rewrap for Monday. All the
best that's from the mic asking breakfast on news Talks.
It'd be in a sillier package. I am Glenn Hart
and Today Radio New Zealand going from terrible to even
terribler The Warriors one but only just how does that
bode as we head into the the what do they
(00:49):
call it? The pointy end of the season hospitality succeeding
or failing?
Speaker 4 (00:54):
And who will be tops next leader? But before any
of that, polls a bunch of poles.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
In spite of my pleading that we don't take any
notice of poles, that we stop doing poles, they keep coming.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Three poles. You want three poles. So as regards the
aforementioned Robertson Hipkins, et cetera, and that disgrace as to
whether they should have fronted the COVID inquiry poll out
over the weekend fifty three twenty eight, does that surprise you?
Nineteen don't know? That will be their great hope, that'll
be the advice they're getting from Denton's the lawyers. Of course,
that people have moved on and next year an election year,
(01:31):
they don't feel bad about it anymore, that they don't
care anymore. But fifty three to twenty eight, twenty eight
agree with their decision, fifty three don't agree with it,
So that's fairly compelling, I would argue. Then we've got
a poll this morning and at two poles in Australia.
One's a news poll forty two percent so that the
US tariffs are of more concern than the Chinese military
(01:52):
build up. So I suppose that's got something to do
with the real world and real life in the price
of your groceries or your car, or your house or whatever.
So forty two percent think the US tariffs are more
important than the Chinese military build up. So it's forty
two to thirty seven, twenty one don't know. It's split
conservatives or worried about the Chinese. But then you've got
Elbin EASi and this is one of them. This is
(02:14):
a zeitgeist thing. As far as I can work out,
Elbin EASi is getting more popular by the day. For
a guy who struggled in his first term at times
looked like a shambles. He won the election one at well,
and then this morning's poll there're up another two points
primary vote to thirty seven. The coalition's primary steady on
(02:34):
twenty nine and one Nation is up a little bit.
In fact, they're up three to nine. And the rest
of his increases come from the minor parties where the
support is fading away on the two party preferred, which
is what they base it on. Of course, fifty nine
forty one. It's a thrashing. So not only did he
win a gargantuan victory in the election, if they would
(02:55):
hold election today he would get even more seats. How
do you explain that? And when I say the zeitgeist,
is it just one of those things. Once you perceive
in your mind he looks like a winner, therefore he is.
Could that be the reverse of luxeant? Once you perceive
he's not doing that well, therefore he isn't. And whether
it's true or not doesn't matter. It's just it's a vibe.
(03:17):
It's marbo. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
But I mean, look at the rabble trying to oppose them,
but there's nobody.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
There's just so much.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
I don't understand Australian politics at all, and I don't
reckon anybody in Australia does either. I think the whole
thing is exactly like Rake, the satirical TV show, and
they're all a bunch of political wonks and absolutely.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
No resemblance to the Australian person on the street. There
you go, I've said my piece.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
It's a rewrap.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Back Here in New Zealand, we have a national radio station,
several stations. Actually, why do they know what they're doing?
Speaker 2 (03:58):
I've read a report commissioned by Radio New Zealand Radio
new Zealand to look into why their operations become such
a dumpster fire. So it said a bunch of stuff
that was obvious. I thought, anyway, one thing that's ed
and saddened me. Though most people within that organization thought
radio was dying, audiences were bailing. This is not true.
This is not true. In fact, it's the opposite. Radio
(04:21):
is robust and comparatively speaking, thriving. So my question is,
how is it you can have a company of people
who don't understand their own industry. Where did they get
their view from? Why has no one corrected the view?
Where's management in this process? Their audience has shrunk? But
it hasn't vanished. This is the key to all of
this has gone well, it's mainly come here actually, To
(04:42):
be honest, the customer is still spending, if you like,
they've just changed shops. The fact they don't know that,
I would have thought should have set off alarm bells
a long time ago, most ironically, because the place is
full of journalists who once upon a time had inquiring minds.
They asked questions, They wanted to know things. If you
have such a mind, you would have quickly discovered what
(05:02):
was actually happening, what the reality of your medium was.
How can you be a journalist and be that bewildered?
And if you are that bewildered on your own doorstep,
how bewildered are you about the rest of life and
the rest of the world. Also of concern was management's
response to the report. The report, by the way, basically
says the place is shot. It needs a bomb and
some genuine talent. The response suggests what Radio and New
(05:25):
Zealand management do is what they do quite well is
commission reports and ignore them. So the exercise as a
whole appears a bit of a waste of time. They
got told some obvious stuff they should have known. An
alarming thing about their staff that they should have also known.
But now they do know they need to fix it.
And as for the report itself, all the rest of
(05:45):
it seems a little bit tricky for them for me.
I mean, look, they can do whatever they like. I
don't care. But what I care about is that this
industry is actually successful. Some of us are actually having
the time of our life. Some of us know what's
going on and understand proceedings. Some of us still ask
a few questions. The future is bright and it's there
for anyone who wants it, But to want it, you've
got to be keen and you've got to be awake.
(06:06):
And that might be their biggest problem.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Yeah, why would you work for something that you know
isn't working, or that you think isn't working, or that
you think is dying? A rewrap? Is that what the
warriors are doing? Are they playing for a team that
they know isn't quite firing?
Speaker 4 (06:25):
At least? I guess they're hoping that it's going to
get better.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
We're in a real quandary at the moment, aren't we.
The Dragons were what better than we thought? The opening
break where they spilled the ball that was a precursor
of things to come. Are their opening try or try
to show pace expansion the work of a quality team.
They lit at halftime rightly, so I thought our tries,
especially the first with that mad unstructured razzle dazzle of
old but it tries to try upshot is either. It
(06:49):
was a good game. Actually it was exciting. He had
a showmanship about it. Not a lot of points, but
plenty of high drama. And the good news is, of
course we win. Now here's the issue. What does it
say about a side that can lose three then when
one and still be in the top four, not just
the eight, not just scrapping desperately for some last chance
playoff spot, but the top or only good sides get
(07:10):
to that sort of position. Also based on the run
in versus the run in for some of the other sides,
we have to be good for at least four more points,
maybe fingers cross six points. The others, as the Panthers
and the Bulldogs found out, don't have that luxury. So
all things being equal, we find ourselves do we not
in a unique position? What if we're in the four
but we haven't beaten the sides we will eventually face
(07:31):
for the title. Is a soft run, even if it's
a clean sweep, a soft run in enough of a
runway to have us believe that we can suddenly play
and beat sides we haven't been able to beat all year.
What about the injuries? How many of these ones who
might be back before the end of the season have
to come back to bolster a ravage side to give
us a sense that we are in fact suddenly good
enough to do what until now we haven't been able
(07:51):
to do. Yes, the run to the finals is the key.
The team's on the up? Are the ones who will win?
Are we a team on the up? Could we be
a team on the up? So the dilemma, I've already
said it, said it last week. This isn't our year.
It might be a good year, could be bordering on
an excellent year. But could I be wrong? Surely top
four deserves more hope and more expectation than I'm giving them.
So is this year open question?
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Well?
Speaker 3 (08:17):
If Australia's performance against South Africa over the weekend to
it us that anything can happen in sport, especially if
there's match fixing involved, Did I say that I don't
know why I said that. I was just thinking about well,
cricket boxing, not necessarily rugby, the re wrapped.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Right, We've got some more.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Green shoots, have we. How's it going with hospitality? It
seems like every time Might leaves his house he can't
get a table anywhere.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
So the spending in major cities, this is eating up.
This is hospo year on year July twenty four to
July twenty five, increases all over the place, Cafes, restaurants
caving fast Foo during the whole thing, largest annual increases.
Hamilton's up nine point six two percent. I mean, you know,
cost of living crisis. No one's out, no one can
afford anything wrong, wrong, wrong and wrong. Hamilton up nine
(09:10):
point six two percent. Queenstown up eight point five to three.
If anyone was supposed to be booming, its Queenstown up
eight point five three percent. But Hamilton beats them. Christ
you ch up over seven percent. Wellington, even Wellington up
over five percent, Towering is up virtually six percent, Donners
is up five and a half. Even Auckland, the beleagued
old downtown Auckland downtown, there's nobody there. Shoot a bullet
(09:32):
and you had nobody. Auckland is up three point eight
two percent, and of course, given the size of the market,
three point eight two percent of one and a half
million people's a lot of dollars, very strong signal that
key weis are once again opening the walls. Now here's
the weird thing about that. Anecdotally, and this is the
way I always worry about anecdotes, is anecdotally, I would
have said that, I mean every time I go out,
(09:52):
which admittedly isn't that often, but certainly on the weekends,
and you go to the markets, you go to the cafes,
you go to the restaurants. Getting a table is and
has been hard yards for a very long period of time.
And so you're festooned with this idea that everyone's miserable
and the economy shot and nobody's doing anything. But you
look at the statistics of travel. The statistics on travel
(10:13):
are indisputable, undeniable. I mean, we're on a plane every
second day. We cannot get around the world fast enough,
and it costs a fortune, but we're seemingly we've got
the money and the inclination to do it. And the
other thing you do notice is people are out and
about and they're eating, and they're drinking. They're seemingly having
a good time. And at long last, and this is
the next time the hospitality people put out another one
of their press release of saying how miserable everything is
(10:36):
and they can't find anybody to work and it's just
all do it. It's bollocks. I mean, numbers don't lie,
don't they. I mean, those are major, major increases in expenditure.
It's good to see. Don't get me wrong, it's all
good news.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
I mean, if Mike.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Huskin can't get a table, how can any of us
get a table?
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Does he not play there? Don't you know who I am? Card? Actually,
now that I think of it, does he play there?
Speaker 3 (10:59):
And that's why he's not getting a table? Of course
he should stop paying their card. The re wrap right,
So jobs, vacant cuations, vacant leader of a political party
that is actually doing surprisingly well on the poll at
the moment, considering they don't have a leader.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Would you want to be the head of the top party,
even if you hadn't thought about it before. It was
one of those jobs. Because they're advertising the Opportunities Party,
this was that you go back to Gareth Morgan, Jeff Simmons,
you go who And that was part of their problem,
of course, because when Jeff became the leader, Raf Mangi
last time, very well known name in christ Jutch Raff.
But they didn't do anything. They've never really done anything,
(11:36):
even under Gareth Morgan. The problem was always their tax policy,
which no one could explain properly. And when they started
explaining it, you've sort of lost the will to live. Anyway,
they if you are not up on the side of
the story. They're looking for a leader. A political party
is looking for a leader, and they're advertising the job
currently on seek whereas I don't know, is that desperate?
(11:58):
Is it clever? But here's the other thing. Do you
know who they have campaign managers? Guess who their campaign
manager is, Ian Lee's Galloway, Remember that name, Ian Le's
Ian I didn't read the report in time. Lee's Galloway.
He's now turned up at top. Do you move from
labor to top? Does that surprise you? Do you move from
a labor party at the top party, it's top sen
(12:19):
the left or center right, anyway.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Depends on the leader they select. I suppose is this
not your big.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Chance, it's funny you should say that clean.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Are you taking their calls? Is that why they've had
to go to seek? Maybe that would help him with
the whole you know, getting into flash restaurants if he
was actually the last time I went to a flash
work restaurant whence Peter was there and he had a
better table than I did, that's for sure to say,
I am Glenn Hart.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
That was the rewrap. We'll do it. I'll shy reserve
your table for tomorrow and come back and do it.
Then you'll use your.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
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