August 18, 2025 • 15 mins
THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Tuesday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) Boldly Going Where... Blah, Blah, Blah/The Court Isn't the Boss of Us/Auckland Council Is So Cooked/Our Energy Is Rank
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk SAIDB. Follow
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The Rewrap there.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
And welcome to the Rewrap for Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
All the best buts from the mic asking Breakfast on
News Talks EDB and a Sillier package, Iron Glen Heart
and today pay Equity is.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Going to court? Will that make any difference? The Auckland
Council is so cooked?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
And where do we rank against the west of the
world as far as our energy infrastructure goes. You may
be surprised to hear the result, although now that I've
said that, you probably won't be. But before any of that,
this meeting on what to do with Ukraine and Russia
(01:06):
still can't quite get Ukraine and I shoul to actually
be at the same room at the same time, but.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Everybody else was.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
And Fox labeled this Trump hosting a quest for peace.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Makes it sound like a Star Trek episode, doesn't it.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
If you were the Prime Minister and somebody said to you,
and you had and this was Sunday, Sunday in the
early hours of the morning, and you had Mike Hosking
on Monday morning, and you had a press conference and
Cabinet later on in the day and they said, to
you hate Prime minister, Starmer and Macron are getting together
at one o'clock in the morning, our time for a
little get together via the zoom to coalition at the
(01:41):
willing yen of the war. Would you join the meeting?
So Luxen didn't, And when he was asked about it
at the postcap press conference yesterday, he looked embarrassed, close
to embarrassed, moderately embarrassed, but he said he was represented.
He said, Amanda turned up, she got up. No, it's
not true. He had officials there, but he didn't go
(02:02):
to the one o'clock. Now here's my problem. I defend
him for not turning up to it. Most other people
everyone's running with it this morning. The media is running
with it this morning. Now I can't work out whether
the media is running with it this morning because they
hate Luxon and they're out to get them, or whether
the media is running it this morning because as a
prime minister you should actually be there at one in
the morning. I side with the Prime minister, not fully
(02:24):
but partially. And this is why I'm not prime minister,
because what I would have said yesterday and i'd be
dealing with the fallout this morning. Is when they asked
me why I wasn't there at one o'clock in the morning,
I go, well, you know full well that it was
just yet another gab fest on Zoom with Starmer and Macron,
and they've got nowhere so far, and Trump's the one
(02:44):
who's going to sort this problem. So why would I
waste my early hours of Sunday morning knowing I had
hosking in a few hours. Although I wouldn't say hosking
because I would be the prime Minister, so I wouldn't
refer to myself and the third person.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
You could never do that.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
I mean no, I wouldn't do that, and there'd be
someone else doing the show, and I wouldn't want to
be on the program anyway. So anyway, I say, I
wouldn't be there because it was a waste of time
and they've done nothing so far, and it's got nowhere.
And we rated the used cabinet and we gave them somekets,
some some helbets and three and a half thousand dollars
and so what you want me to waste my sleep for?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah? But he didn't say that, though, did he?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
What?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Did he say? What did he say? Mike?
Speaker 4 (03:16):
He said, I had people representing me and was there
and I had a busy morning and I had Mike
hosking to do it.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
And there was a time difference.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Yeah, the time zone. Yeah, the time zone was his
problem because it was one o'clock in the morning. So
if he had been honest, he could have got away
with it. I mean, yes, there would be fall out
this morning from other countries, but at least he would
have been honest, Whereas now he's just got a whole
lot of stories to deal with and there's more image
problems and the media are picking on him and he
(03:45):
probably feels bad about him.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yes, it's a grind.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
As we get the car out of the ditch and
turned up the right way and into first and second gear.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
You can't argue with it, can you.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yeah, be in a.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Different time zone. That's an excuse for I don't know,
not watching the rugby. Although nine o'clock on a Sunday
morning's pretty civilized, but when it comes to I don't know,
solving world peace, don't you want to be a.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Part of it? Get up, get up, get up for that?
And I'm sure the call wouldn't have taken all night.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
It's got rewrap.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Anyway, we've moved on from the air.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
And although the finished prime minister was at today's meeting,
obviously people like La said, weren't divided.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
H and man just such fun times. Everybody's just having
a laugh.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
So they're all meeting, they're all behind closed doors in Washington.
At the moment before they did that, they did a
bit of yellow chair stuff. So Zelenski was back in
the yellow chair with trumpet and somebody asked him about
whether they were going to hold some elections.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Well, for an election, yes, we have to do safety
circumstances and a little bit. We need to work in
parliament because during the war you can't have election, but
we can. We can do security. We need maybe how
to say, we need the truth, yes, everywhere in the battlefield,
in the sky, and to see yeah, to make it
(05:12):
possible for people to to do democratic, open, legal, legal elections.
So you say during the war you can't have elections,
so let me just say three and a half years from.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Now, So you mean if we happen to be in.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
A war with somebody, no more elections.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
I wonder what the failure.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
At least they're getting on biter than they were last time.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yeah, hilarious, everybody they said to laugh nervously when chumpsy
stuff like that, don't they, Because of course, obviously he
would never declear a war just so he could exceed
his presidency out past it's official end.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
There would be ridiculous a rerap.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Domestic matters now, So the unions are having another go
at this pay equity thing, and by that I mean
they're going to court. The host doesn't seem to think
there will make any difference either way.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
If Grant Robinson thinks the COVID inquiry is a show trial,
then what is about to unfold at the High Court
as of the end of this month can't be far behind.
We've got a bunch of unions who are taking the
government to court over pay equity. Now they're having several stabs.
The Bill of Rights is in play, democratic process is
up the debate. One of the things the unions claim
may happen is if they win is a Select Committee
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would have to hear submissions and a debate in Parliament
would have to take place. Oohoo, that's the show trial part.
I mean select committees here from people you would expect
to hear from broadly people opposed to whatever change of
the law is in play, and a debate in parliament.
Here's both sites, one for one against, with the Government
of the day prevailing. Given it is they who have
(06:53):
the numbers, and indeed that is why they're the government,
which is essentially why court is a waste of time. Remembering,
of course the government is the ultimate court. And if
they want to pass the law, guess what they can
making it complicated is the whole pay equity calculation. Of course,
that's a mess. Secondary teachers, for example, we're one of
the many claimants putting in equity claim forward before the
(07:14):
law was changed. Now, to my eye, correct me if
I'm wrong, but to my eye, being a high school
teacher is not an equity issue. Men do it. Women
do it, lots of them, and they aren't paid on gender.
It is not a profession where ninety nine percent of
them are women. And because the women, they're poorly paid.
High school teachers are paid actually quite well. You could
equally argue they're not paid as well as they could
be because the union insists that they all get paid
(07:36):
the same based on time in the classroom. If they
got paid on merit, now that would be a whole
different world. Christine Bartlett's case became famous because we could
all see the care industry was mainly female and the
pay was poor. Now, I would still argue the pay
was poor because the work, although kind and worthy, is
not of great numerical value. If it was, rest Holmes
would pay more, and they would charge residents more, and
(07:59):
we'd all happily fit the bill. But we don't want
to do that, do we. Anyway, The upshot is the
best the unions can hope for is a court win.
The wind can then be used to beat the government
about the head as big bad meanings, but it will
still not get them paid under an equity deal because
the court is not the government.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
So this is a drum.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
The host has been beating for some time now that
the government is the highest court in the land and
if they want to do things, you can't take them
to court to stop them. And although the host has
been beating that drum, there still seems to be a
lot of court cases going on. Well, are these people
(08:38):
not listening to our show? No, that's impossible. Everybody listens
to our show.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Rewrapp.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
We must be getting close to a time though that
the show is no longer based in Auckland, given that
it seems to be a non functioning cockcase.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Do you note the irony of the course from Auckland
to Wellington for Wellington to do something to help Auckland.
This all started the other day when the employment stats
came out. They were not as bad as feared, of course,
if you remember, five point two percent instead of the
expected five point three. Auckland though in a basket case
all of its own six point one massive increase, worse
of any region. So the mere wants a bed tax.
The head of the Chamber of Commerce wants central government help,
(09:14):
which was part of the irony because the head of
the Chamber of Commerce used to run the party that
currently runs the country, of course, and the beleagued heart
of the city folk they want central government help as well.
Part of the reason Auckland is ended up in the
state it has is because the people who run Auckland
have overseen one of the most destructive periods of isolationism
I've witnessed in my lifetime. I've been given while I've
been lucky enough to live in four main centers. I
(09:35):
come from christ Church. I see what a city on
its knees can do. I mean, yes, with the help
of central government. But then what got them on their
knees wasn't Wellington's fault indeed anyone. Wellington is in similar
shape to Auckland, hit a little harder, I guess by
the public service knife last year. But you can hardly
call the local council cutting edge or organized, or professional
or forward looking. It's a dysfunctional mess, which makes Auckland
(09:57):
kind of unique I suppose. I mean the council don't
fight like Wellington, or if they do, they keep it
on the delo. But the artworkings of their ideology has
seen the biggest cities downtown area basically destroyed. Auckland is
a pre planned disaster. Between the cones, the lanes for
anything but cars, the lack of parking, the resulting clog traffic,
the lights that don't phaze, the crime, the closure of
the businesses that couldn't get a customer to the door
(10:18):
because the CRL is years late and billions overdue. All
of it was predictable. All of it, though, was defended.
All of it was sold as the big bright new
thing and the brilliant tomorrow, and yet all of it
turned out to be a desert with tumbleweed and an
attitude to match. And now having watched it all unfold,
they want Wellington's help. They hate Wellington unless it comes
with a checkbook. You actually want them to stew in
(10:39):
their own mess. If it wasn't for the fact that
one and a half million of us are also stewing
as well, and we didn't ask for any of it.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I don't really feel like I'm stewing in a mess.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
I mean, it is strange that they're finally doing council
funded rubbish collection in my area, which meant that we
get a new wheely bin. And the pamphlet that tells
you when this is all going to start and when
you can start using you new wheely bin. These a
section this is what do I do with my old
(11:12):
really bin? And basically they say whatever you want. So
they're not collecting, that, they're not recycling, that, they're not
doing anything with that.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
It's just yours to. I don't know, organize wheely bin
races down your street. I don't know what I'm supposed
to do with it. The Council the rewrap.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Let's finish up with another topic that's very top of
our minds at the moment as we try to weighe
our way out of a wet, stormy and cold winter.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Power electricity.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
We spend a lot of time complaining about it, especially
in recent years. But apparently we might not be the
worst in the world.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
So this study comes to us from the Business New
Zealand Energy Council BECK the energy system, our energy system
fifteen other countries. So out of the fifteen countries, you
want to know what the countries are, all right, I'll
tell you Australia, Canada, Chile, China, Germany, Greece, Iceland, Ireland, Norway, Pakistan, Guitar,
South Africa, Switzerlandgui Uosa. So of those countries, where do
(12:11):
you reckon? We come the answer, I'm gonna tell you
in a minute. So they look at different categories energy import, dependency. Well,
you know what the answer there is. Diversity of electricity generation.
We're probably going to score pretty well. They're strategic fuel reserves,
not really share of renewables. We're probably okay. Share of
renewables and electricity generation, energy intensity, electricity, wholesale volatility, we're
(12:36):
hopeless at that air quality scene. Now, this is where
I object. I understand why they do it, but what
we really want correct me if I'm wrong when it
comes to how good is our power system? Does it work?
When I want the lights on? Do they work? Are
they telling me not to heat my floor because it's
a cold winter's morning? And if I do hit my
floor do I get a bill for one thousand dollars
(12:57):
at the end.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Of the month.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
That's what I'm really interested in. Yes, altruistically fantastic if
we can clean the air as well. But anyway, they
take everything on board and add it all up together,
and they compare us to all those other trees, and
we end out of fifteen. What do you reckon? Mike twelfth? Sorry, Corler,
Mike's solar farms are so ugly, Yes they are. Have
(13:22):
a look at King Charles's one. It's ugly. It was
where the horses where he's taking the horses out, and
he's put solar panels and the whole palace runs now
on solar panels, So I get why he's doing it.
And the photo is taken from the air so you
can hide it behind trees. I get all of that,
and nothing's going to change just because we think they're ugly,
But they are ugly. Fifth, fifth out of fifteen, Where.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Was our energy not intense enough to go entire?
Speaker 4 (13:46):
In some areas it was intense, in other areas it
was lacking.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Well, that was the one that I didn't really understand
what that.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Means important dependency diversity about electricity generation, strategic fuel reserves,
share of renewables, share of renewables, and generation. Energy intensity.
Now the top one there is Ireland in Switzerland. It
is calculated by taking each country's total energy consumption, dividing
it by countries, GDP and US dolls.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
That's how you get intensity.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
You certainly don't, well, we don't have any US dollars,
and when we take our currency and compare it to
US dollars, you need tremendous numbers of them to even compete.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
This is getting intense.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
I think it is part of the problem.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Yeah, even I really regret trying to get them to
explain that to me, because it just made it seem
even more intense than I still don't know what energy
intensity is and whether ours is intense enough or not.
It seems pretty intense sometimes in one of those shows
(14:45):
today where it felt like about four shows. Sam the producer,
and I were just talking just now before I came
into the studio to do this. But when you do
a show that feels like it's four shows, do you
get the rest of the week off?
Speaker 2 (15:02):
And then of course we laughed politely and carried on
with our days.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Do that as well, and we'll see back here again
for more polite laughing tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
And welcome to the Rewrap for Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
All the best buts from the mic asking Breakfast on
News Talks EDB and a Sillier package, Iron Glen Heart
and today pay Equity is.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Going to court? Will that make any difference? The Auckland
Council is so cooked?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
And where do we rank against the west of the
world as far as our energy infrastructure goes. You may
be surprised to hear the result, although now that I've
said that, you probably won't be. But before any of that,
this meeting on what to do with Ukraine and Russia
(01:06):
still can't quite get Ukraine and I shoul to actually
be at the same room at the same time, but.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Everybody else was.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
And Fox labeled this Trump hosting a quest for peace.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Makes it sound like a Star Trek episode, doesn't it.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
If you were the Prime Minister and somebody said to you,
and you had and this was Sunday, Sunday in the
early hours of the morning, and you had Mike Hosking
on Monday morning, and you had a press conference and
Cabinet later on in the day and they said, to
you hate Prime minister, Starmer and Macron are getting together
at one o'clock in the morning, our time for a
little get together via the zoom to coalition at the
(01:41):
willing yen of the war. Would you join the meeting?
So Luxen didn't, And when he was asked about it
at the postcap press conference yesterday, he looked embarrassed, close
to embarrassed, moderately embarrassed, but he said he was represented.
He said, Amanda turned up, she got up. No, it's
not true. He had officials there, but he didn't go
(02:02):
to the one o'clock. Now here's my problem. I defend
him for not turning up to it. Most other people
everyone's running with it this morning. The media is running
with it this morning. Now I can't work out whether
the media is running with it this morning because they
hate Luxon and they're out to get them, or whether
the media is running it this morning because as a
prime minister you should actually be there at one in
the morning. I side with the Prime minister, not fully
(02:24):
but partially. And this is why I'm not prime minister,
because what I would have said yesterday and i'd be
dealing with the fallout this morning. Is when they asked
me why I wasn't there at one o'clock in the morning,
I go, well, you know full well that it was
just yet another gab fest on Zoom with Starmer and Macron,
and they've got nowhere so far, and Trump's the one
(02:44):
who's going to sort this problem. So why would I
waste my early hours of Sunday morning knowing I had
hosking in a few hours. Although I wouldn't say hosking
because I would be the prime Minister, so I wouldn't
refer to myself and the third person.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
You could never do that.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
I mean no, I wouldn't do that, and there'd be
someone else doing the show, and I wouldn't want to
be on the program anyway. So anyway, I say, I
wouldn't be there because it was a waste of time
and they've done nothing so far, and it's got nowhere.
And we rated the used cabinet and we gave them somekets,
some some helbets and three and a half thousand dollars
and so what you want me to waste my sleep for?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah? But he didn't say that, though, did he?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
What?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Did he say? What did he say? Mike?
Speaker 4 (03:16):
He said, I had people representing me and was there
and I had a busy morning and I had Mike
hosking to do it.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
And there was a time difference.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Yeah, the time zone. Yeah, the time zone was his
problem because it was one o'clock in the morning. So
if he had been honest, he could have got away
with it. I mean, yes, there would be fall out
this morning from other countries, but at least he would
have been honest, Whereas now he's just got a whole
lot of stories to deal with and there's more image
problems and the media are picking on him and he
(03:45):
probably feels bad about him.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yes, it's a grind.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
As we get the car out of the ditch and
turned up the right way and into first and second gear.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
You can't argue with it, can you.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yeah, be in a.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Different time zone. That's an excuse for I don't know,
not watching the rugby. Although nine o'clock on a Sunday
morning's pretty civilized, but when it comes to I don't know,
solving world peace, don't you want to be a.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Part of it? Get up, get up, get up for that?
And I'm sure the call wouldn't have taken all night.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
It's got rewrap.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Anyway, we've moved on from the air.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
And although the finished prime minister was at today's meeting,
obviously people like La said, weren't divided.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
H and man just such fun times. Everybody's just having
a laugh.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
So they're all meeting, they're all behind closed doors in Washington.
At the moment before they did that, they did a
bit of yellow chair stuff. So Zelenski was back in
the yellow chair with trumpet and somebody asked him about
whether they were going to hold some elections.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Well, for an election, yes, we have to do safety
circumstances and a little bit. We need to work in
parliament because during the war you can't have election, but
we can. We can do security. We need maybe how
to say, we need the truth, yes, everywhere in the battlefield,
in the sky, and to see yeah, to make it
(05:12):
possible for people to to do democratic, open, legal, legal elections.
So you say during the war you can't have elections,
so let me just say three and a half years from.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Now, So you mean if we happen to be in.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
A war with somebody, no more elections.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
I wonder what the failure.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
At least they're getting on biter than they were last time.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yeah, hilarious, everybody they said to laugh nervously when chumpsy
stuff like that, don't they, Because of course, obviously he
would never declear a war just so he could exceed
his presidency out past it's official end.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
There would be ridiculous a rerap.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Domestic matters now, So the unions are having another go
at this pay equity thing, and by that I mean
they're going to court. The host doesn't seem to think
there will make any difference either way.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
If Grant Robinson thinks the COVID inquiry is a show trial,
then what is about to unfold at the High Court
as of the end of this month can't be far behind.
We've got a bunch of unions who are taking the
government to court over pay equity. Now they're having several stabs.
The Bill of Rights is in play, democratic process is
up the debate. One of the things the unions claim
may happen is if they win is a Select Committee
(06:33):
would have to hear submissions and a debate in Parliament
would have to take place. Oohoo, that's the show trial part.
I mean select committees here from people you would expect
to hear from broadly people opposed to whatever change of
the law is in play, and a debate in parliament.
Here's both sites, one for one against, with the Government
of the day prevailing. Given it is they who have
(06:53):
the numbers, and indeed that is why they're the government,
which is essentially why court is a waste of time. Remembering,
of course the government is the ultimate court. And if
they want to pass the law, guess what they can
making it complicated is the whole pay equity calculation. Of course,
that's a mess. Secondary teachers, for example, we're one of
the many claimants putting in equity claim forward before the
(07:14):
law was changed. Now, to my eye, correct me if
I'm wrong, but to my eye, being a high school
teacher is not an equity issue. Men do it. Women
do it, lots of them, and they aren't paid on gender.
It is not a profession where ninety nine percent of
them are women. And because the women, they're poorly paid.
High school teachers are paid actually quite well. You could
equally argue they're not paid as well as they could
be because the union insists that they all get paid
(07:36):
the same based on time in the classroom. If they
got paid on merit, now that would be a whole
different world. Christine Bartlett's case became famous because we could
all see the care industry was mainly female and the
pay was poor. Now, I would still argue the pay
was poor because the work, although kind and worthy, is
not of great numerical value. If it was, rest Holmes
would pay more, and they would charge residents more, and
(07:59):
we'd all happily fit the bill. But we don't want
to do that, do we. Anyway, The upshot is the
best the unions can hope for is a court win.
The wind can then be used to beat the government
about the head as big bad meanings, but it will
still not get them paid under an equity deal because
the court is not the government.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
So this is a drum.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
The host has been beating for some time now that
the government is the highest court in the land and
if they want to do things, you can't take them
to court to stop them. And although the host has
been beating that drum, there still seems to be a
lot of court cases going on. Well, are these people
(08:38):
not listening to our show? No, that's impossible. Everybody listens
to our show.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Rewrapp.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
We must be getting close to a time though that
the show is no longer based in Auckland, given that
it seems to be a non functioning cockcase.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Do you note the irony of the course from Auckland
to Wellington for Wellington to do something to help Auckland.
This all started the other day when the employment stats
came out. They were not as bad as feared, of course,
if you remember, five point two percent instead of the
expected five point three. Auckland though in a basket case
all of its own six point one massive increase, worse
of any region. So the mere wants a bed tax.
The head of the Chamber of Commerce wants central government help,
(09:14):
which was part of the irony because the head of
the Chamber of Commerce used to run the party that
currently runs the country, of course, and the beleagued heart
of the city folk they want central government help as well.
Part of the reason Auckland is ended up in the
state it has is because the people who run Auckland
have overseen one of the most destructive periods of isolationism
I've witnessed in my lifetime. I've been given while I've
been lucky enough to live in four main centers. I
(09:35):
come from christ Church. I see what a city on
its knees can do. I mean, yes, with the help
of central government. But then what got them on their
knees wasn't Wellington's fault indeed anyone. Wellington is in similar
shape to Auckland, hit a little harder, I guess by
the public service knife last year. But you can hardly
call the local council cutting edge or organized, or professional
or forward looking. It's a dysfunctional mess, which makes Auckland
(09:57):
kind of unique I suppose. I mean the council don't
fight like Wellington, or if they do, they keep it
on the delo. But the artworkings of their ideology has
seen the biggest cities downtown area basically destroyed. Auckland is
a pre planned disaster. Between the cones, the lanes for
anything but cars, the lack of parking, the resulting clog traffic,
the lights that don't phaze, the crime, the closure of
the businesses that couldn't get a customer to the door
(10:18):
because the CRL is years late and billions overdue. All
of it was predictable. All of it, though, was defended.
All of it was sold as the big bright new
thing and the brilliant tomorrow, and yet all of it
turned out to be a desert with tumbleweed and an
attitude to match. And now having watched it all unfold,
they want Wellington's help. They hate Wellington unless it comes
with a checkbook. You actually want them to stew in
(10:39):
their own mess. If it wasn't for the fact that
one and a half million of us are also stewing
as well, and we didn't ask for any of it.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I don't really feel like I'm stewing in a mess.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
I mean, it is strange that they're finally doing council
funded rubbish collection in my area, which meant that we
get a new wheely bin. And the pamphlet that tells
you when this is all going to start and when
you can start using you new wheely bin. These a
section this is what do I do with my old
(11:12):
really bin? And basically they say whatever you want. So
they're not collecting, that, they're not recycling, that, they're not
doing anything with that.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
It's just yours to. I don't know, organize wheely bin
races down your street. I don't know what I'm supposed
to do with it. The Council the rewrap.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Let's finish up with another topic that's very top of
our minds at the moment as we try to weighe
our way out of a wet, stormy and cold winter.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Power electricity.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
We spend a lot of time complaining about it, especially
in recent years. But apparently we might not be the
worst in the world.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
So this study comes to us from the Business New
Zealand Energy Council BECK the energy system, our energy system
fifteen other countries. So out of the fifteen countries, you
want to know what the countries are, all right, I'll
tell you Australia, Canada, Chile, China, Germany, Greece, Iceland, Ireland, Norway, Pakistan, Guitar,
South Africa, Switzerlandgui Uosa. So of those countries, where do
(12:11):
you reckon? We come the answer, I'm gonna tell you
in a minute. So they look at different categories energy import, dependency. Well,
you know what the answer there is. Diversity of electricity generation.
We're probably going to score pretty well. They're strategic fuel reserves,
not really share of renewables. We're probably okay. Share of
renewables and electricity generation, energy intensity, electricity, wholesale volatility, we're
(12:36):
hopeless at that air quality scene. Now, this is where
I object. I understand why they do it, but what
we really want correct me if I'm wrong when it
comes to how good is our power system? Does it work?
When I want the lights on? Do they work? Are
they telling me not to heat my floor because it's
a cold winter's morning? And if I do hit my
floor do I get a bill for one thousand dollars
(12:57):
at the end.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Of the month.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
That's what I'm really interested in. Yes, altruistically fantastic if
we can clean the air as well. But anyway, they
take everything on board and add it all up together,
and they compare us to all those other trees, and
we end out of fifteen. What do you reckon? Mike twelfth? Sorry, Corler,
Mike's solar farms are so ugly, Yes they are. Have
(13:22):
a look at King Charles's one. It's ugly. It was
where the horses where he's taking the horses out, and
he's put solar panels and the whole palace runs now
on solar panels, So I get why he's doing it.
And the photo is taken from the air so you
can hide it behind trees. I get all of that,
and nothing's going to change just because we think they're ugly,
But they are ugly. Fifth, fifth out of fifteen, Where.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Was our energy not intense enough to go entire?
Speaker 4 (13:46):
In some areas it was intense, in other areas it
was lacking.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Well, that was the one that I didn't really understand
what that.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Means important dependency diversity about electricity generation, strategic fuel reserves,
share of renewables, share of renewables, and generation. Energy intensity.
Now the top one there is Ireland in Switzerland. It
is calculated by taking each country's total energy consumption, dividing
it by countries, GDP and US dolls.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
That's how you get intensity.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
You certainly don't, well, we don't have any US dollars,
and when we take our currency and compare it to
US dollars, you need tremendous numbers of them to even compete.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
This is getting intense.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
I think it is part of the problem.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Yeah, even I really regret trying to get them to
explain that to me, because it just made it seem
even more intense than I still don't know what energy
intensity is and whether ours is intense enough or not.
It seems pretty intense sometimes in one of those shows
(14:45):
today where it felt like about four shows. Sam the producer,
and I were just talking just now before I came
into the studio to do this. But when you do
a show that feels like it's four shows, do you
get the rest of the week off?
Speaker 2 (15:02):
And then of course we laughed politely and carried on
with our days.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Do that as well, and we'll see back here again
for more polite laughing tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
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