August 19, 2025 • 11 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Tuesday on Newstalk ZB) Especially in New Zealand/The Ongoing Power Struggle/Nobody Voted for This/Just Build Whatever/Remember Pretty Things?
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
First of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart and we
are looking back at Tuesday. The power supply is just
an ongoing agony for the country. It seems to be
getting more convoluted rather than less. And this comes back
to the coalition government and exactly what their agenda is
(00:46):
and little bits of inviting or starting to emerge. They
have changed the building rules though. You can build your
house as high as you like or something. And remember
the pretty things too. No, it me neither that somebody
does before any of that. Trump's big get together, everybody
(01:10):
turning up to sort out the Ukraine Russia war. How
did that work out?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
This Texas is Trump's a no, But I think he's
doing a good job. If you're not a left harded
wokester in comparison to any other president of late, don't
forget there's a full born. Every day in New Zealand
is full of them. Believe everything the left skewed media
tell you.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Okay, which is why I haven't watched mainstream media since
COVID nineteen. This trick this Texas says, how much are
the fascists paying you to shill for Trump? He is
scum and you guys are complicit even asking if the
media is fear on him? Why ask?
Speaker 5 (01:47):
It's always with the fascist, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Who are these fascists?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Ah?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Leave it?
Speaker 6 (01:51):
Leave it.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Well, we can say right now asking the question, is
the New Zealand media fear on Trump? And look, let's
be clear, the media isn't really a thing. It's not
that the media doesn't get together and you know they're
not all connected.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
No, there's not a collective conspiracy. There's not a chairman
of the board of media to say you're going to
talk about this and that.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
I know Tyler and the media and that's about it.
But I can't say right now that the Trump administration
is not paying us any money to ask.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
The Christian certainly not that.
Speaker 6 (02:19):
Yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
It is strange now that I think about it, when
people get accused of being you know, left wing shills,
especially in New Zealand. I get the conspiracy theories theorists
in the States, you know, point to various billionaires who
(02:43):
they claim it. I mean, some of those billionaires do
actually own newspapers and things, so I guess that's got
a little bit more weight to it. But here, nobody's
got any money to pay anybody anything. Why wouldn't they
tell any kind of corporate line? That doesn't make sense
at all?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
News talk has it.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Been speaking of corporate minds? So was it contact? Yesterday
the massive profits announced that holds, you know, making power
supply fear of everybody. That's really working out, well, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
So today we just talked about it. We had the
announcement that the gent tailors will have to sell the
power from their generation departments to their retail departments at
the same price that the seller to the smaller retailers,
so that the smaller retailers can compete fairly and have
a level playing field. Now that's nice. I don't have
a problem with that. If it works, and I'm not
sure it's going to work, but if it works, it's
only tinkering. Maybe it'll save us a few dollars every month.
(03:44):
That's not dealing with the actual problem that we've got
a few dollars every month. It's not a problem when
you think about what is actually going on. The actual
problem is balance Agriculture is going to have to shut
down for four months if they can't find a new
gas contract because Contact Energy brought their contract. Meth and
X has to shut down every winter now so that
we have enough gas for everyone. Pulp mills have shut,
a paper recycled mill has shut, A massive tomato grower
(04:07):
is considering shutting down of its business. That's just to
name a few. This is happening all over the country
right now. The country is de industrializing and losing huge
amounts of minute money, possibly into billions. Now, we probably
use the crisis a little bit too much at the moment,
but I think this is an actual crisis. Where's the
plan when the government's got a report sitting on the desk,
have had it for weeks. They had a meeting up
(04:28):
in the Beehive with the Energy Minister and the Finance
Minister and the Prime Ministan Shane Jones last night. But
they've got no plan. And I know they've got no
plan because I've been told by people who know things
they have got no plan. We're in the second winter
with the coalition government. They had better come up with
the plan before next winter. Otherwise it's just going to
be another case of us starting to see, just like
with the supermarkets, through all of this hot air and
(04:50):
lack of action.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yeah, there is a disturbing feeling, isn't there that the
government does things to make it look like they're doing
something about things without actually doing something about things.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Us talk Sivy why there.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Seems to be a a little sort of bitching and
moaning and in fighting with the government and its coalition partners.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Helmets or no helmets for cyclists, For goodness sakes, which
name comes first on the cover of your passport, a
ban and then a reversal on a ban on marshmallows
and hot chocolates from the coffee machine at hospitals. Not
a single one of these stories is significant on their
own in and of themselves, but the kind of stories
that people remember because they either make no sense or
(05:38):
they appear to be a colossal waste of time. Most
working families can't afford to even use their passports right
now a Hawaiian holiday. No, the only ones actually dusting
off their passports right now are probably moving across to
the ditch across the Tasman. Is this the stuff that
your average punter wanting to feed their kids actually cares
about the answers of course No. The Clark government got
(06:01):
bogged down by a bunch of these silly little things.
I think size of shower heads, size of light bulbs.
Remember that fes go instead of asking officials where the
little Johnny should be allowed to ride a bike without
a helmet, something that no decent parent would allow anyway,
why not keep your eyes on the big stuff? No
shortage of that around. Yesterday Fitch warned our DOAA plus
(06:22):
credit rating could be at risk if we get slack
on fiscal discipline. If we see a further correction in
the housing market, which isn't completely off the cards, we
see employments spike up again, also not out of the
woods yet. Come on, we have big earfish to fry.
It's not that this coalition is not focused on these things,
(06:42):
of course, certainly more focused on them than the last one.
It's just that there's a bit too much noise around
on little things that don't actually matter to the swinging
middle that national needs if they want to finish the
big jobs that they've set out to achieve. Distraction is
the enemy of progress. Passports and helmets are distractions, and
lately there's been a few too many of them.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yeah, I don't remember voting for anybody in the previous election.
They could take action on cycle helmets. I don't remember
that being discussed, debated, praised at any point. It is weird,
isn't it. Somebody's gotten somebody's here about some things and
suddenly they become issues. Right, would you like to build
(07:28):
a six story house? Go ahead? This is something that
the government is changing the rules on.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
Apparently it does have.
Speaker 7 (07:34):
To be done right. There are areas of extreme ugliness,
hideous apartments, townhouses jammed together with very little in the
way of green spaces, no public transport nearby, few amenities.
In some places there's not even room for a fire station,
(07:54):
so if one goes up, it's all up. Really. But
then you have developments like Stonefields and Hobsonville Point in Auckland,
which I would argue have been done very well. And
you might be able to point to parts of Hamilton
NAPI where there has been intensification of housing. Outside of
christ Church, farmland has become residential in its nature with
(08:17):
developments there. Those that are done well are done very well.
Those that are done poorly are just a blight on
the landscape and a burden around the neck of anyone
who buys them. How on earth are you going to
have any confidence and buying a new build when partial
(08:42):
liability is being introduced when you can't you can't get
back what you spent because each party is only responsible
for their little bit, and so many of them will
be able to do a flit.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Well, is that why you do building inspections?
Speaker 6 (09:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
All I know is I would never build. As I
said before, too many decisions I can't make. I can't
decide what to wear to work alone, which bits of
my house should be, which news talk been. We're going
to be finishing up discussing the Pretty Things tour. Come
(09:30):
on you remember, don't you? No, I've got no idea
what this guy's talking about either that the magazine do I'm.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
Going to bring up for New Zealand rock and roll milestone.
Sixty years ago the Pretty Things in Sandy Shaw kicked
off their infamous New Zealand tour at Founders Theater in
Hamilton and then continue to do two more dates around
the country. And I was just curious of any of
your listeners saw The Pretty Things on that visit because
(09:55):
a little bit before you and I were born. But
you know, I'm not sure how much you know about it,
but it was a very good fromis tour of New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I've read the book, the one that I did, Yeah,
and excellent.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
So what brought them?
Speaker 5 (10:10):
What brought them together?
Speaker 6 (10:13):
Well, well, it's the days the Package tour.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Because for those that don't know, it seems unlikely, doesn't it.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
Yeah, And you know the other thing is the Pretty Things.
They didn't go to America then go to Australia. They
came to New Zealand. And you know, it's just a
little over a year after the Beatles have been here.
And funny enough, I'm actually outside the Auckland Town Hall
right now on a job, and you know, and the
Pretty Thing's played here. Tomorrow night will be the sixtieth anniversary.
They played Elkorn Town Hall. And they came to in Chicago,
(10:43):
didn't they. They finished in a Vicago on August thirtieth. O.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
That's John there. He called hi to Marcus. He's outside,
he said, he's outside the Oakland Town Hall on a job.
Marcus is on here from eight pm to midnight. What
the job is they're doing outside the Oaklandtown Hall.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Uber working in a bab shop on a job that
we were.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
That's the real mystery. That and we were pretty things worth.
I am a clean heart. Will be that with more
mysterious content for you tomorrow then.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Used talking talking has it been for more from news talks?
It'd be listen live on air or online and keep
our shows with you wherever you go with our podcasts
on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk Said Bee.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on
iHeartRadio US Talk Said Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
First of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart and we
are looking back at Tuesday. The power supply is just
an ongoing agony for the country. It seems to be
getting more convoluted rather than less. And this comes back
to the coalition government and exactly what their agenda is
(00:46):
and little bits of inviting or starting to emerge. They
have changed the building rules though. You can build your
house as high as you like or something. And remember
the pretty things too. No, it me neither that somebody
does before any of that. Trump's big get together, everybody
(01:10):
turning up to sort out the Ukraine Russia war. How
did that work out?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
This Texas is Trump's a no, But I think he's
doing a good job. If you're not a left harded
wokester in comparison to any other president of late, don't
forget there's a full born. Every day in New Zealand
is full of them. Believe everything the left skewed media
tell you.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Okay, which is why I haven't watched mainstream media since
COVID nineteen. This trick this Texas says, how much are
the fascists paying you to shill for Trump? He is
scum and you guys are complicit even asking if the
media is fear on him? Why ask?
Speaker 5 (01:47):
It's always with the fascist, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Who are these fascists?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Ah?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Leave it?
Speaker 6 (01:51):
Leave it.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Well, we can say right now asking the question, is
the New Zealand media fear on Trump? And look, let's
be clear, the media isn't really a thing. It's not
that the media doesn't get together and you know they're
not all connected.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
No, there's not a collective conspiracy. There's not a chairman
of the board of media to say you're going to
talk about this and that.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
I know Tyler and the media and that's about it.
But I can't say right now that the Trump administration
is not paying us any money to ask.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
The Christian certainly not that.
Speaker 6 (02:19):
Yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
It is strange now that I think about it, when
people get accused of being you know, left wing shills,
especially in New Zealand. I get the conspiracy theories theorists
in the States, you know, point to various billionaires who
(02:43):
they claim it. I mean, some of those billionaires do
actually own newspapers and things, so I guess that's got
a little bit more weight to it. But here, nobody's
got any money to pay anybody anything. Why wouldn't they
tell any kind of corporate line? That doesn't make sense
at all?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
News talk has it.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Been speaking of corporate minds? So was it contact? Yesterday
the massive profits announced that holds, you know, making power
supply fear of everybody. That's really working out, well, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
So today we just talked about it. We had the
announcement that the gent tailors will have to sell the
power from their generation departments to their retail departments at
the same price that the seller to the smaller retailers,
so that the smaller retailers can compete fairly and have
a level playing field. Now that's nice. I don't have
a problem with that. If it works, and I'm not
sure it's going to work, but if it works, it's
only tinkering. Maybe it'll save us a few dollars every month.
(03:44):
That's not dealing with the actual problem that we've got
a few dollars every month. It's not a problem when
you think about what is actually going on. The actual
problem is balance Agriculture is going to have to shut
down for four months if they can't find a new
gas contract because Contact Energy brought their contract. Meth and
X has to shut down every winter now so that
we have enough gas for everyone. Pulp mills have shut,
a paper recycled mill has shut, A massive tomato grower
(04:07):
is considering shutting down of its business. That's just to
name a few. This is happening all over the country
right now. The country is de industrializing and losing huge
amounts of minute money, possibly into billions. Now, we probably
use the crisis a little bit too much at the moment,
but I think this is an actual crisis. Where's the
plan when the government's got a report sitting on the desk,
have had it for weeks. They had a meeting up
(04:28):
in the Beehive with the Energy Minister and the Finance
Minister and the Prime Ministan Shane Jones last night. But
they've got no plan. And I know they've got no
plan because I've been told by people who know things
they have got no plan. We're in the second winter
with the coalition government. They had better come up with
the plan before next winter. Otherwise it's just going to
be another case of us starting to see, just like
with the supermarkets, through all of this hot air and
(04:50):
lack of action.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yeah, there is a disturbing feeling, isn't there that the
government does things to make it look like they're doing
something about things without actually doing something about things.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Us talk Sivy why there.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Seems to be a a little sort of bitching and
moaning and in fighting with the government and its coalition partners.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Helmets or no helmets for cyclists, For goodness sakes, which
name comes first on the cover of your passport, a
ban and then a reversal on a ban on marshmallows
and hot chocolates from the coffee machine at hospitals. Not
a single one of these stories is significant on their
own in and of themselves, but the kind of stories
that people remember because they either make no sense or
(05:38):
they appear to be a colossal waste of time. Most
working families can't afford to even use their passports right
now a Hawaiian holiday. No, the only ones actually dusting
off their passports right now are probably moving across to
the ditch across the Tasman. Is this the stuff that
your average punter wanting to feed their kids actually cares
about the answers of course No. The Clark government got
(06:01):
bogged down by a bunch of these silly little things.
I think size of shower heads, size of light bulbs.
Remember that fes go instead of asking officials where the
little Johnny should be allowed to ride a bike without
a helmet, something that no decent parent would allow anyway,
why not keep your eyes on the big stuff? No
shortage of that around. Yesterday Fitch warned our DOAA plus
(06:22):
credit rating could be at risk if we get slack
on fiscal discipline. If we see a further correction in
the housing market, which isn't completely off the cards, we
see employments spike up again, also not out of the
woods yet. Come on, we have big earfish to fry.
It's not that this coalition is not focused on these things,
(06:42):
of course, certainly more focused on them than the last one.
It's just that there's a bit too much noise around
on little things that don't actually matter to the swinging
middle that national needs if they want to finish the
big jobs that they've set out to achieve. Distraction is
the enemy of progress. Passports and helmets are distractions, and
lately there's been a few too many of them.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yeah, I don't remember voting for anybody in the previous election.
They could take action on cycle helmets. I don't remember
that being discussed, debated, praised at any point. It is weird,
isn't it. Somebody's gotten somebody's here about some things and
suddenly they become issues. Right, would you like to build
(07:28):
a six story house? Go ahead? This is something that
the government is changing the rules on.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
Apparently it does have.
Speaker 7 (07:34):
To be done right. There are areas of extreme ugliness,
hideous apartments, townhouses jammed together with very little in the
way of green spaces, no public transport nearby, few amenities.
In some places there's not even room for a fire station,
(07:54):
so if one goes up, it's all up. Really. But
then you have developments like Stonefields and Hobsonville Point in Auckland,
which I would argue have been done very well. And
you might be able to point to parts of Hamilton
NAPI where there has been intensification of housing. Outside of
christ Church, farmland has become residential in its nature with
(08:17):
developments there. Those that are done well are done very well.
Those that are done poorly are just a blight on
the landscape and a burden around the neck of anyone
who buys them. How on earth are you going to
have any confidence and buying a new build when partial
(08:42):
liability is being introduced when you can't you can't get
back what you spent because each party is only responsible
for their little bit, and so many of them will
be able to do a flit.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Well, is that why you do building inspections?
Speaker 6 (09:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
All I know is I would never build. As I
said before, too many decisions I can't make. I can't
decide what to wear to work alone, which bits of
my house should be, which news talk been. We're going
to be finishing up discussing the Pretty Things tour. Come
(09:30):
on you remember, don't you? No, I've got no idea
what this guy's talking about either that the magazine do I'm.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
Going to bring up for New Zealand rock and roll milestone.
Sixty years ago the Pretty Things in Sandy Shaw kicked
off their infamous New Zealand tour at Founders Theater in
Hamilton and then continue to do two more dates around
the country. And I was just curious of any of
your listeners saw The Pretty Things on that visit because
(09:55):
a little bit before you and I were born. But
you know, I'm not sure how much you know about it,
but it was a very good fromis tour of New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I've read the book, the one that I did, Yeah,
and excellent.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
So what brought them?
Speaker 5 (10:10):
What brought them together?
Speaker 6 (10:13):
Well, well, it's the days the Package tour.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Because for those that don't know, it seems unlikely, doesn't it.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
Yeah, And you know the other thing is the Pretty Things.
They didn't go to America then go to Australia. They
came to New Zealand. And you know, it's just a
little over a year after the Beatles have been here.
And funny enough, I'm actually outside the Auckland Town Hall
right now on a job, and you know, and the
Pretty Thing's played here. Tomorrow night will be the sixtieth anniversary.
They played Elkorn Town Hall. And they came to in Chicago,
(10:43):
didn't they. They finished in a Vicago on August thirtieth. O.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
That's John there. He called hi to Marcus. He's outside,
he said, he's outside the Oakland Town Hall on a job.
Marcus is on here from eight pm to midnight. What
the job is they're doing outside the Oaklandtown Hall.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Uber working in a bab shop on a job that
we were.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
That's the real mystery. That and we were pretty things worth.
I am a clean heart. Will be that with more
mysterious content for you tomorrow then.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Used talking talking has it been for more from news talks?
It'd be listen live on air or online and keep
our shows with you wherever you go with our podcasts
on iHeartRadio
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