August 19, 2025 • 12 mins
THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Wednesday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) Is This Still Interesting?/Teacher Buy-In Would Make Things Easier/The War Count/Do We Really Want Him Back?/Our Woolly Balls
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Rewrap there, Welcome to the Rewrap for Wednesday. All the
best buts from the my casting breakfast on news Talks.
He'd be in a sillier package. I'm being hat Today
we're going to tweet the education system again. Really fine
tuning in there now it's going to be humming like
a like a what are things hum like? I can't
remember Trump the peacemaker. It's just how many wars has
(00:48):
he ended?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Driven? Mail out his back do we want them?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
And how to make a tennis ball? But before any
of that, OCR day again, and we all know what's
going to happen, so why are.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
We talking about it.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
It's a great debate on again today. Of course, as
the Reserve Bank enters our collective consciousness with a crack
at the cash right, they will cut it twenty five points.
But that's not the news. Of course. The cut was
sorted last week by the retail banks who saw what
we see, know what's coming and drop the old mortgage
money again. Now the real news is what Christian says,
Apart from the twenty five points and how he says it,
or indeed, if you're a read between the tea leaves person,
(01:24):
what he doesn't say. The trouble for the bank is
there in charge of inflation. Of course, inflation is sort
of kind of tamed. It's at the upper end of
the zero to three percent band at the moment. It
may well breach it this year, but generally it is
thought that it will settle. Trouble with that is what's
driving inflation, not growth. Bills are cost plus accounting, as
your rates bill is now your rates bill produces no growth,
(01:45):
but it does stoke inflation. So what's Christian to do?
Inflation with no growth? By the way, it's called stagflation.
That is not good. There's also debate around what neutral is,
In other words, what does the cashwright have to get
to before we all roughly agree the job has done.
Growth as bubbling, inflation as tamed, the Reserve Bank can
step back for a while. Now. Some say this might
be it today, might be at Kelly Ekold he thinks
(02:06):
a twenty five point cut. Today he's at West He
says neutral three percent. Others say it's two point seven
five percent. In fact, quite a few people say it's
two point seven five percent, Andrew Kellahis says it's two
and a half. They're not all right, and they can't
be all wrong, and that's why you don't want to
be the Reserve Bank governor. Of course, it does throw
up the frailties of the bank, and it's riding instructions.
They are not surgeons who poke and prid and microadjust.
(02:29):
They've just got a big fat hammer and they smack
inflation with it. If farming makes enough to cover lots
of industries that aren't booming, they may look through some
of that. They are not a welfare agency. But sadly
many of our futures are inextricably linked to what they think.
So what Christians should say is twenty five points to
day and stand by, because I've got two more where
(02:50):
that came from.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
But Willie, so, yeah, I'm really suffering from great fatigue
at this point. I can't be bothered paying any attention
to it anymore. And I've also as obsessed as a
lot of people have become with it, I've become more
(03:12):
obsessed with the fact that it's not just one.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Person who makes these decisions.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
It's a bunch of people on a board, but we
never hear about them.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
It's rewrap.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
So yeah, Erica Stamford's still taking no prisoners when it
comes to re inventing the education system.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
So that can only be good.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Right now, Can I ask you a question about parents?
I sort of asked Erica a moment ago. I watched
Erica as I told her do that press conference yesterday
at a school in Wellington launching this writing action plan.
And while I was watching that, I was reading a
story about Nichola Willis, who it was suggested by people
in London might be the next prime minister. And now
she'd gone to the New Zealand if you've missed this
piece of nonsense, she'd gone to the New Zealand Society
(03:58):
on her trip last week, stood there in a tangerine suit,
and that had been a buzz about the room as
they wondered whether this was New Zealand's next Prime minister.
It was a very weird story and says a lot
about the modern media. And it means nothing, of course,
But if it ever came down to it, I'd take
Stamford over Willis all day long. She is a force
of nature. Stanford, and if you ever want to see
a minister in charge of detail what you're in a
(04:19):
classroom in front of cameras, you won't fail to be impressed.
Bad news, though part of the day involved this release
of the data showing our kids in year three, six
and eight they're in real trouble when it comes to
the maths and reading. A small minority are where they
should be. A small minority, our small minority are where
they should be. So the claim is at this stage
by Stanford, is what they've introduced and are introducing is
(04:41):
the turnaround plan. Is the magic, the cure, the panacea.
Not that it makes it better. But the numbers out
yesterday were marked against some of the new standards, hence
the mass of failure rate. Now this stuff is benchmark internationally.
As she told us a moment ago, and once not
long ago, maybe when I was at school. I don't
know in a lot of stuff we actually lead the
(05:02):
world today. We are so far from leading the world
it makes you want to cry. Stanford isn't crying. She
speaks in a way that suggests you know something the
rest of us don't like. She's seen the future and
it's bright, or it could be she just hopes it
is and is faking it till she makes it. Because
the gap between where our kids are and where they
need to be as gargantuan. So back to the parents,
(05:24):
where are they? Maths? As I suggested to Erica a moment,
you can sort of. I mean, it can be tricky
maths if you want to find an excuse. But reading
and writing isn't. A kid who can't read or write
properly by high school, and that's what we're dealing with here.
By high school is a reflection of their home life.
As much as the school, schools take too much heat.
I reckon governments take too much heat. If your kid
(05:46):
can't read or write and your kid is twelve or
thirteen years old, where have you been?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yeah, she sounds like she knows what she's talking about, Erica,
I do wonder if there's a slight sort of mister spot.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I just look at things logically.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Here are the facts and figures, and that's and this
is the evidence based.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
System introducing and not that much.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Consultation with the people who actually have to implement that
system are either teachers.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I feel like there might be a bit of a
divide growing there.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
And if she just spend a bit more time getting
there buy and things might go a little bit more smoothly.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
But what would I know?
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Rewraps right.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
So we've got peace breaking out left, right and center,
haven't we. And it's all thanks to Donald Trump. So
he's a lock for the Nobel Prize obviously.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
So this Trump claim of seven wars at all, it's
bs as usual. India Pakistan in May it's maybe maybe not.
India rejects the third party was involved in any way.
Pakistan's nominated Trump for a peace prize, so some like it,
some don't. So let's give them. Let's give them one war.
Let's give them that one. A Democratic Republic of Congo
and Rwanda generally will give them a Yes, it's still ongoing,
(07:01):
but they signed, so we'll give them two wars. So
so far too up, too down. As a Baijan and Armenia,
there was a joint peace declaration sign just the other day.
They're at the Table Transportation Corridor. It's called the Trump
Route for Peace and Prosperity. He said, that's a win,
So three out of three, so the guy's on a roll. Thailand, Cambodia.
Now this is where I got a bitter fey on this.
That was not a war that lasted a handful of days.
(07:21):
There was a skirmish on the border and he rang
them up and he said, listen, if you guys don't
get it sorted out, I'm going to increase somebody's tariffs.
And so they stopped. Now, so it wasn't a war,
it was a skirmish. He did solve it, so you
can give him something. You can give him half a
point for that. Israel Iran? I mean, come on, is
that over? Is that finished? Is Iran finished for now?
I guess you can argue yes. I mean they bombed them.
(07:43):
The b twos went in. Have you heard from Iran
since no? So that's when. So he's doing all right
so far. Egypt Ethiopia dispute over the Nile. That's a river.
Both countries said, nothing's been solved, no casualties linked to
the damse no, So he hasn't done anything there, but
he's claiming it, so he's wrong. Serbia. Kosovo says Serbia
was about to clash but he ended it. So there's
(08:04):
a new U rule of law mission and native peace
plan also. So no, no, no, no, no, no, and
no so there's two no's there, five maybes, five years.
So he's done five out of center. But the next one,
if he gets this one done, that's the big one,
isn't it. Thank you Reckon.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
It's interesting Mike doesn't give him any credit for stopping
wars before they start.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
I would prefer that probably. I'll give that extra credit
if you can. The more wars you can start before
they start, the better the rerap. So I didn't know
this until Mike brought it out today. But when St.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Peter's Is told Malid Malard to pack his bags and
come home.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Quick question for you, is anybody anybody in this country
not thinking what I am about Winston Peters and what
he did yesterday? How good? I mean, it took him
too long. If I'm going to criticize one thing, it
took him too long. I would have done at day one,
the moment I arrived as Foreign Minister. But bringing home
that little cretnous twat bringing him home early good on
(09:14):
Winston and his defense. I mean, I know that Winston's
a bit obsessed about the protesters and spraying them in music,
and that's just the twettishness that you got from Mallard.
But the more important point that he made yesterday is
that you don't spend your life in the diplomatic service,
building your skills and your contacts, only to be usurped
by an idiot like Mallard because he's a political appointment,
(09:36):
and that's applicable to many people who have become political appointment.
So getting Mallard home was probably the best thing Winston
Peters will do this entire term. And I ask you
that question again. Is there a single New Zealander who
thinks that what he did yesterday was the wrong thing?
Speaker 2 (09:51):
It would have been better if he wasn't coming back here.
I mean, if he's as useless as Mike and Winston
Peters says he is, he's not going to do any
good here?
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Is he? Can they not have sent him off? I
don't know. Could he be our representative to space? Perhaps
the rerap.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
We're going to finish with an export we're more proud
of Woll.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Mike loves Wool.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
We know this, but I tell you what we didn't
know well, not until my again, and not until Mike top.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
When I say we, I mean me and you might
have known this. I doubt that you did though.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
This story of the day, is it the best story
of that day? Think's pretty close. Are the balls the
US opens on at the moment the US Tennis Open
Flushing Meadow, of course, the fame Flushing Meadow are the
bulls are New Zealand. The wall for the bulls comes
from New Zealand. Rodney sheep crossbred Romney sheep. So they
supply Woolworks as the company. They're the scar of biggest
scar in the country. Woolworks. They supply a textile manufacturer
(10:46):
in Thailand called Tti Sports, who make the balls. And
there's going to be one hundred thousand Wilson bulls at
the US Open. So your crossbred wool, it's blended with
a thread wrapped around a rubber cor microns of thirty
two through thirty six are perfect. And we make a
good Rodney and the Romney makes the good wool. And
the wall goes to Thailand and the next stop is
(11:08):
ushing me down New York News.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
What do you have to feed the sheep to get
them to go that color.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Green or yellow? It's tricky, It's not bad as.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
And there is one of one of the classic gushes,
isn't it Our tennis balls yellow or green or somewhere
in between. I never would have thought in a million
years that that's will on the outside of a tennis ball.
I don't feel quite so worried about the fact that
my dog just likes to eat all that off and
(11:38):
then you just left with a rubbery ball. I don't
know that what's going to do them too much harm?
Is it depending on what it is that they are
feeding the sheet to tenna deck color?
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Or is it something they're drinking. Do they empty out
the inside of a glow stick into what they're into
their water trough. Look, I'm licensed to tell dead.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Jokes, and if I want to, let just extend the
dead joke out pas the editor audio and into this outro.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
It's my prerogative. I might even bring it back tomorrow.
Let's see how we go rap.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Rewrap there, Welcome to the Rewrap for Wednesday. All the
best buts from the my casting breakfast on news Talks.
He'd be in a sillier package. I'm being hat Today
we're going to tweet the education system again. Really fine
tuning in there now it's going to be humming like
a like a what are things hum like? I can't
remember Trump the peacemaker. It's just how many wars has
(00:48):
he ended?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Driven? Mail out his back do we want them?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
And how to make a tennis ball? But before any
of that, OCR day again, and we all know what's
going to happen, so why are.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
We talking about it.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
It's a great debate on again today. Of course, as
the Reserve Bank enters our collective consciousness with a crack
at the cash right, they will cut it twenty five points.
But that's not the news. Of course. The cut was
sorted last week by the retail banks who saw what
we see, know what's coming and drop the old mortgage
money again. Now the real news is what Christian says,
Apart from the twenty five points and how he says it,
or indeed, if you're a read between the tea leaves person,
(01:24):
what he doesn't say. The trouble for the bank is
there in charge of inflation. Of course, inflation is sort
of kind of tamed. It's at the upper end of
the zero to three percent band at the moment. It
may well breach it this year, but generally it is
thought that it will settle. Trouble with that is what's
driving inflation, not growth. Bills are cost plus accounting, as
your rates bill is now your rates bill produces no growth,
(01:45):
but it does stoke inflation. So what's Christian to do?
Inflation with no growth? By the way, it's called stagflation.
That is not good. There's also debate around what neutral is,
In other words, what does the cashwright have to get
to before we all roughly agree the job has done.
Growth as bubbling, inflation as tamed, the Reserve Bank can
step back for a while. Now. Some say this might
be it today, might be at Kelly Ekold he thinks
(02:06):
a twenty five point cut. Today he's at West He
says neutral three percent. Others say it's two point seven
five percent. In fact, quite a few people say it's
two point seven five percent, Andrew Kellahis says it's two
and a half. They're not all right, and they can't
be all wrong, and that's why you don't want to
be the Reserve Bank governor. Of course, it does throw
up the frailties of the bank, and it's riding instructions.
They are not surgeons who poke and prid and microadjust.
(02:29):
They've just got a big fat hammer and they smack
inflation with it. If farming makes enough to cover lots
of industries that aren't booming, they may look through some
of that. They are not a welfare agency. But sadly
many of our futures are inextricably linked to what they think.
So what Christians should say is twenty five points to
day and stand by, because I've got two more where
(02:50):
that came from.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
But Willie, so, yeah, I'm really suffering from great fatigue
at this point. I can't be bothered paying any attention
to it anymore. And I've also as obsessed as a
lot of people have become with it, I've become more
(03:12):
obsessed with the fact that it's not just one.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Person who makes these decisions.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
It's a bunch of people on a board, but we
never hear about them.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
It's rewrap.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
So yeah, Erica Stamford's still taking no prisoners when it
comes to re inventing the education system.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
So that can only be good.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Right now, Can I ask you a question about parents?
I sort of asked Erica a moment ago. I watched
Erica as I told her do that press conference yesterday
at a school in Wellington launching this writing action plan.
And while I was watching that, I was reading a
story about Nichola Willis, who it was suggested by people
in London might be the next prime minister. And now
she'd gone to the New Zealand if you've missed this
piece of nonsense, she'd gone to the New Zealand Society
(03:58):
on her trip last week, stood there in a tangerine suit,
and that had been a buzz about the room as
they wondered whether this was New Zealand's next Prime minister.
It was a very weird story and says a lot
about the modern media. And it means nothing, of course,
But if it ever came down to it, I'd take
Stamford over Willis all day long. She is a force
of nature. Stanford, and if you ever want to see
a minister in charge of detail what you're in a
(04:19):
classroom in front of cameras, you won't fail to be impressed.
Bad news, though part of the day involved this release
of the data showing our kids in year three, six
and eight they're in real trouble when it comes to
the maths and reading. A small minority are where they
should be. A small minority, our small minority are where
they should be. So the claim is at this stage
by Stanford, is what they've introduced and are introducing is
(04:41):
the turnaround plan. Is the magic, the cure, the panacea.
Not that it makes it better. But the numbers out
yesterday were marked against some of the new standards, hence
the mass of failure rate. Now this stuff is benchmark internationally.
As she told us a moment ago, and once not
long ago, maybe when I was at school. I don't
know in a lot of stuff we actually lead the
(05:02):
world today. We are so far from leading the world
it makes you want to cry. Stanford isn't crying. She
speaks in a way that suggests you know something the
rest of us don't like. She's seen the future and
it's bright, or it could be she just hopes it
is and is faking it till she makes it. Because
the gap between where our kids are and where they
need to be as gargantuan. So back to the parents,
(05:24):
where are they? Maths? As I suggested to Erica a moment,
you can sort of. I mean, it can be tricky
maths if you want to find an excuse. But reading
and writing isn't. A kid who can't read or write
properly by high school, and that's what we're dealing with here.
By high school is a reflection of their home life.
As much as the school, schools take too much heat.
I reckon governments take too much heat. If your kid
(05:46):
can't read or write and your kid is twelve or
thirteen years old, where have you been?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yeah, she sounds like she knows what she's talking about, Erica,
I do wonder if there's a slight sort of mister spot.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I just look at things logically.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Here are the facts and figures, and that's and this
is the evidence based.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
System introducing and not that much.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Consultation with the people who actually have to implement that
system are either teachers.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I feel like there might be a bit of a
divide growing there.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
And if she just spend a bit more time getting
there buy and things might go a little bit more smoothly.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
But what would I know?
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Rewraps right.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
So we've got peace breaking out left, right and center,
haven't we. And it's all thanks to Donald Trump. So
he's a lock for the Nobel Prize obviously.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
So this Trump claim of seven wars at all, it's
bs as usual. India Pakistan in May it's maybe maybe not.
India rejects the third party was involved in any way.
Pakistan's nominated Trump for a peace prize, so some like it,
some don't. So let's give them. Let's give them one war.
Let's give them that one. A Democratic Republic of Congo
and Rwanda generally will give them a Yes, it's still ongoing,
(07:01):
but they signed, so we'll give them two wars. So
so far too up, too down. As a Baijan and Armenia,
there was a joint peace declaration sign just the other day.
They're at the Table Transportation Corridor. It's called the Trump
Route for Peace and Prosperity. He said, that's a win,
So three out of three, so the guy's on a roll. Thailand, Cambodia.
Now this is where I got a bitter fey on this.
That was not a war that lasted a handful of days.
(07:21):
There was a skirmish on the border and he rang
them up and he said, listen, if you guys don't
get it sorted out, I'm going to increase somebody's tariffs.
And so they stopped. Now, so it wasn't a war,
it was a skirmish. He did solve it, so you
can give him something. You can give him half a
point for that. Israel Iran? I mean, come on, is
that over? Is that finished? Is Iran finished for now?
I guess you can argue yes. I mean they bombed them.
(07:43):
The b twos went in. Have you heard from Iran
since no? So that's when. So he's doing all right
so far. Egypt Ethiopia dispute over the Nile. That's a river.
Both countries said, nothing's been solved, no casualties linked to
the damse no, So he hasn't done anything there, but
he's claiming it, so he's wrong. Serbia. Kosovo says Serbia
was about to clash but he ended it. So there's
(08:04):
a new U rule of law mission and native peace
plan also. So no, no, no, no, no, no, and
no so there's two no's there, five maybes, five years.
So he's done five out of center. But the next one,
if he gets this one done, that's the big one,
isn't it. Thank you Reckon.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
It's interesting Mike doesn't give him any credit for stopping
wars before they start.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
I would prefer that probably. I'll give that extra credit
if you can. The more wars you can start before
they start, the better the rerap. So I didn't know
this until Mike brought it out today. But when St.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Peter's Is told Malid Malard to pack his bags and
come home.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Quick question for you, is anybody anybody in this country
not thinking what I am about Winston Peters and what
he did yesterday? How good? I mean, it took him
too long. If I'm going to criticize one thing, it
took him too long. I would have done at day one,
the moment I arrived as Foreign Minister. But bringing home
that little cretnous twat bringing him home early good on
(09:14):
Winston and his defense. I mean, I know that Winston's
a bit obsessed about the protesters and spraying them in music,
and that's just the twettishness that you got from Mallard.
But the more important point that he made yesterday is
that you don't spend your life in the diplomatic service,
building your skills and your contacts, only to be usurped
by an idiot like Mallard because he's a political appointment,
(09:36):
and that's applicable to many people who have become political appointment.
So getting Mallard home was probably the best thing Winston
Peters will do this entire term. And I ask you
that question again. Is there a single New Zealander who
thinks that what he did yesterday was the wrong thing?
Speaker 2 (09:51):
It would have been better if he wasn't coming back here.
I mean, if he's as useless as Mike and Winston
Peters says he is, he's not going to do any
good here?
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Is he? Can they not have sent him off? I
don't know. Could he be our representative to space? Perhaps
the rerap.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
We're going to finish with an export we're more proud
of Woll.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Mike loves Wool.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
We know this, but I tell you what we didn't
know well, not until my again, and not until Mike top.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
When I say we, I mean me and you might
have known this. I doubt that you did though.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
This story of the day, is it the best story
of that day? Think's pretty close. Are the balls the
US opens on at the moment the US Tennis Open
Flushing Meadow, of course, the fame Flushing Meadow are the
bulls are New Zealand. The wall for the bulls comes
from New Zealand. Rodney sheep crossbred Romney sheep. So they
supply Woolworks as the company. They're the scar of biggest
scar in the country. Woolworks. They supply a textile manufacturer
(10:46):
in Thailand called Tti Sports, who make the balls. And
there's going to be one hundred thousand Wilson bulls at
the US Open. So your crossbred wool, it's blended with
a thread wrapped around a rubber cor microns of thirty
two through thirty six are perfect. And we make a
good Rodney and the Romney makes the good wool. And
the wall goes to Thailand and the next stop is
(11:08):
ushing me down New York News.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
What do you have to feed the sheep to get
them to go that color.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Green or yellow? It's tricky, It's not bad as.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
And there is one of one of the classic gushes,
isn't it Our tennis balls yellow or green or somewhere
in between. I never would have thought in a million
years that that's will on the outside of a tennis ball.
I don't feel quite so worried about the fact that
my dog just likes to eat all that off and
(11:38):
then you just left with a rubbery ball. I don't
know that what's going to do them too much harm?
Is it depending on what it is that they are
feeding the sheet to tenna deck color?
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Or is it something they're drinking. Do they empty out
the inside of a glow stick into what they're into
their water trough. Look, I'm licensed to tell dead.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Jokes, and if I want to, let just extend the
dead joke out pas the editor audio and into this outro.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
It's my prerogative. I might even bring it back tomorrow.
Let's see how we go rap.
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