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August 25, 2025 • 12 mins

THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Tuesday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) Who Trumps Who?/Health or Wealth?/Big Butter Drama/Pictures of Cars/Suck On That, Finland

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
The rewrap Odia.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Welcome to the rewrap for Tuesday, all the best bets
from the mic asking breakfast on newsbooks. They be in
a silly a pack of giant Glen had today. You
never guess who wants a wealth text and a wealth
text now more butter drama or actually the old butter drama.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
But from the inside.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Mike looks at card pictures and we'll find out where
we come on the list of the safest countries in
the world.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
But before any of that, PM versus rb n Z,
who wins?

Speaker 4 (01:00):
Now a question for you, has the Penny Dropp day?
No shortage of headlines and news coverage yesterday out of
our interview with the Prime Minister on the Reserve Bank,
so in a nutshell reluction suggested hawksby Blew it should
have could have moved faster on the cash rate. This
is news not because the PM is right. We all
know he's right, but there is a convention whereby because
the Reserve Bank is independent, you don't bag them, especially
if you're a politician. Far less the most influential politician.

(01:24):
But here's why Luckson was right and deserves recognition for
what he said. There comes a time when you've got
to say what you got to say. You can't dance
around convention without becoming convention's victim. There is just too
much of it. People who can't have a go at
Judges is another good example. By tiptoeing around the truth,
we invite complacency and accountability becomes woefully lacking. The cold
hard politics are at play as well. Christian hawksby and

(01:46):
as Gang of Monetary Committee wants aren't up for reelection
next year. And believe me of Luxe and wanders the
countryside telling us he wished the cash rate was lower faster,
He's not going to get any sympathy. The extreme, of course,
is somebody like Trump, where you call for sackings occasionally
you actually do some sackings. We don't need to be
that unhinged, but it is unfairly restrictive for a government
to cut spending, cut red tape, change rule and laws,

(02:08):
trim jobs, cap councils up in the rima get the
fast track going. In other words, work your butt off,
pulling every lever they can to fire the joint up. Meantime,
old the old dumpty doos on the terrace can't see
a contraction when it smacks them in the face and
stall the economy through an aptitude. Also, quite apart from
anything else, we like strong leadership, don't we We like
people telling it like it is. At Luxom has had

(02:29):
a weakness. It might be he's just been a bit corporate,
bit beige, bit polite, but nice. Hopefully yesterday was the
start of something new and more strident, and with it
a few more people are held to open public account.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
I know that they've had their offices and their building
done up. Could they do a rebrain instead of RB
and Z, we just rename it the dumpy doos on
the terrace seems more accessible.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
I like the sound of it, and I can even
see the font.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
It's the rewrap.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
We're going to keep things finance related at this point,
of course, we've had labor proposing a wealth tax or
making rumblings about one. Certainly people on the left seem
to be into it, and they're not the only ones.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
We got the Public Health Advisory Committee right, he never
heard of, and they were set up by the Ministry
of Health. It has led this committee by Kevin Haig.
There's a name, Kevin Haig. He was a Green MP
and also on a district health board. Their latest idea
is they want a wealth tax. So, given what I've
just told you Green Party haigue, is that tax about

(03:35):
health or is it just a tax about a tax?
So we live in an age, it seems, where only
more tax will do. Superannuation needs more tax, welfare needs
more tax. We have never spent more in this country's
history than we do right now on healthy you're aware
of that. Never spent more, and yet we apparently we
need even more. So when you've got a Green Party
veteran looking at what a healthcare system needs, their only

(03:55):
answer will ever be more tax. So the real question,
and no one asks about it or even thinks about it,
is where does the tax come from? Now, there's nothing
wrong with more tax if you get it from success.
Growth is an example of sixs. If you grow, you
make more money. See the farmers at the moment will
be making more money. So that sector is providing more
tax to the ID. But the Haigues and the labour

(04:16):
parties of this world don't think of that side of
the equation. That's why Chrisipkins and as fellow travelers Rachel
Reeves in London dream up wealth taxes and capital the
gains taxes. They're not looking to grow the pie. They're
looking at who has got more pie and how they
can take it off you. The ruinous nature of this
thinking is given. It takes nothing more than an ideology
to grab someone else's money. That's all they know how
to do. Homelessness in this country it went up over

(04:39):
thirty percent under the last government. Where the last government
spending money, My god, they were, They were spending in
excess of a billion dollars on it. Yet still we're
up thirty percent. See if money taken from the so
called wealthy and tipped into issues worked, a lot of
problems would have been solved a long time ago. So
ask yourself why they haven't been. It's because the fundamentals
are flawed from the start. If you don't fix that part,

(05:02):
you're fixed.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
Nothing could we make if we just made everybody wealthy
then be more healthy. I've heard the words health and
wealth said so many times now I've sort of forgotten
what we're talking about.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
So let's move on. Wrap right, it's time to look back.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
We don't often do that on this show, and normally
it's about what's happening today, right now, news, current.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
It theirs.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
Sometimes it's worth a little revisit Nichola Willis.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
You know how critical I was of her in her
obsession round, but it all got laid bare yesterday. And
just think about the resource that's at her fingertips for this.
So staff were pressing officials in her offers, pressing officials
for international dairy price comparisons. This is before she met
Myles Hurrale. This all came out yesterday with the Official
Information Act, last minute scramble. We're going back to twenty

(05:53):
one July. The Private secretary guy called Creech, John Creech,
He asks mb so. It just rings up envy like
they've got nothing better to do. Hello, Mby. Nichola's got
a meeting with Miles specifically requested a quick price comparison
New Zealand v Australia. It'd be good to have a
quantity of infire possible and clear understanding of whether there's
more to it than the exchange rates and GST. Looks

(06:14):
like the Minister will need something in hand about this
by the time she goes to caucus this morning at
ten am, can you please get it to me within
the hour at nine point forty so sure you got
nothing better to do, have you? They're at envy. Then
old Creatures on the phone again asking for a bit
of paperwork on the butter and for all you people
who texted me going wow, she whacked up Onterira Mike,
she'd know exactly what's going on. Clearly she didn't. Figures

(06:38):
suggested that Mainland butter was priced similarly. Oh no, oh no,
it's price similarly both sides of the Tasman. Well, that
would have been a fly in the ointment, wouldn't it.
So Creature asked for a comparison to focus on Fontira
products at midday. You followed up, when are you anticipating
having the next version? There's a lot of interest in
the building today. I bit you there was. She's freaking out,

(07:00):
Miles is coming for a meeting. She hasn't know the
first thing about butter, So another iteration soon would be appreciated, because,
of course, as you know, what else are they doing?
Because Creatures on the phone yet again asking for a
follow up, didn't like what I saw the first time.
Give me another one. The work was from Envy quote
unquote quick and dirty, not the most scientific of comparison. Well,

(07:23):
that's because he only gave you twenty minutes to come
up with it. Our feel is that milk is more
expensive in New Zealand. Other products are more comparably priced.
Cheese is hard to gauge. Who knew that the time
of the meeting As the time of the meeting bore down.
Creature also asked for further details on Fonterra's market share
in New Zealand Australia. The bloke palm of the poor
sap at MB, he warned the answers quote unquote quite

(07:46):
a hard one to calculate, and would need and put
from the Commerce Commission. Course it would so Creatures already
on to MB Nicholas panicking about miles coming down the corridor. Boom,
I don't know anything about butter Creature, give me some
numbers from Envy. Oh, I don't know him. We can't
do it. We'll need to get the Commerce Commission Becau.
Commerce Commission got nothing better to do with their time.

(08:08):
I'm not sure we'll get there on time, they said.
I haven't been able to get the right people at
the ComCom. That's because they're working from home. There's no
one in the office at five point fifteen forty five
minutes before the meeting totally understand the hard numbers to get,
so we won't quantify basically need stuff in the next
few minutes. See the panic. So you got the Commerce Commission,

(08:29):
you got mb you got Creachy, you got Palmi, you
got Nikola, you got Miles.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
As opposed to what we did here, we had Sam
just googled it exactly.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
We chat gpt'ed it and that was the end of
the problem, and hence the problem and why Nicola came
out of that meeting eventually going at appears it's.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
Really in this case, I've been satisfied that I don't
think consumers are getting a raw deal.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
So we only had the Commerce Commission, the MV Department,
Nikola Willis's entire office to find out what we already
knew before Miles turned up for the meeting. Awesome governing national.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
I think actually the war worst, butter at war worst,
the cheapest I found around.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Anybody's interested. Okay, once again, let's move on a rewrap.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
I tell you why I distracted Mike from the show
today it was pictures of flash cars.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Who would have seen that coming.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
I'm just being WhatsApp bombed by my daughter photos of
Ferraris in the car park of her hotel. And she's
at a hotel in the Italian country side. And she
is at a hotel in the Italian country side on
holiday before she starts her new job in London. So
lead one job, you have a nice holiday through Europe,

(09:52):
seend your dad some photos of Ferraris in your flash
hotel car park before you start your flash new job
in London. And she's twenty four and I'm.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
Sitting here, sitting here. You can go down and look
at my Ford Pooma if you want see. The funny
thing is.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
In the building where Nzme is where I am right now,
on higher floors.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
There there's lawyers.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
And I think they're doing all right, those lawyers, going
by the cars that are packed in the basement. My
caras seems to be surrounded by Audi's and BMW's and
the odd Lamborghini.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
From time to time. So yeah, I'm just saying, sometimes
it would.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
Be worth a lockdown in the basement, not at my
catspecific I mean, I like my car.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
But it's not for everyone. It's a rewrap, right.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
Let's finish up with a list. So I think if
you're k HILKSB you won't be interested. You can just
stop listening now. But for everybody else, we love lists.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
This one's about how safe we are.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
It makes you feel any bit of this morning. We
are the third safest country in the world. They looked
at one hundred and sixty three countries. This is the
Institute of Economic and Pieces Global Piece Index, the GPI.
We've gone from fifty third, so we're on the up.
What do they look at? Societal safety, security, domestic international conflict,
degree of militarization. Well, we haven't had a military up

(11:18):
until now, so that's worked probably in our favor. You
want to go ten through one, even though Katie says
lists of tenor boring radio. Let's go ten through one. Finland, Slovenia, Denmark, Portugal, Singapore.
We beat Singapore. There you go, Switzerland, Austria, New Zealand,
Ireland and Iceland. Scandinavians.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
Well, except for Finland. They were way back at number
ten or something. Weren't they suck on that?

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Finland? You think you're so happy with your saunas I reckon.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
The reason we're so safe is those acc ads that they.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Tell people to have a hidden hockon.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
More people have been doing that, and that's where it's
shown through and the results.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
We've made it to the end of the podcast anyway.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
That and we'll see if we can be here for
the beginning of one tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
See then.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
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