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September 11, 2025 • 14 mins

THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Friday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) Nah, That Can't Be Right/What If Data Centres Are Actually Good?/Mark the Week/Rugby VS League

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Rerap There, welcome to the re Rap for Friday. All
the best that's from the mic asking breakfast on news Talks.
He'd be a a sillier package. I am Glen Hart
and today what a data scene has ever done for us?
We will mark the week because it's Friday, that's what
we do, and we'll play our favorite game of all
Rugby versus League and see I who comes down on

(00:48):
top of the air. But before any of that, charter
schools it looks like they might actually be a thing.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
It's my uplifting story that week involves charter schools. Now,
charter schools are the little idea that could, or maybe
are they the big game changing idea that could. We
heard this week of the first public school wanting to
explore the charter route. It's in Northland. It has been
driven the realization that what they currently do doesn't work
for their kids and that is the genesis of the
charter school thinking at the start of it all. And

(01:14):
remember charter schools go back to the previous government before
Labour took to them in twenty seventeen, so this isn't new,
but the basic premise was one size does not fit all,
and a lot of kids may well benefit from different
styles and approaches to learning. I've been a fan from
day one, not because charter schools are magic bullets, but
rather the simple premise that what we have demonstrably doesn't
work for everybody. You can't hide from the facts and

(01:36):
the truth, and our pass rates and our success rates
are shocking, and the union simply bleeding for more resources.
Even if it's a partial answer, isn't close to being
the whole answer, and their myopic view that there can
only be one way is a very large part of
the overall handbreak that has prevented real change in advancement.
The Northland School and I thought gave excellent insight. They
said they have good people and they work hard, but

(01:57):
they're simply not getting the cut through, so they need
to try something different. They didn't even used to be
four charter schools, but just their ability to accept change
needs to be admired and encouraged. Chris Hopkins's Education minister
in twenty seventeen killed them not because they weren't working,
but because he's beholden to the unions, and there was
no way those schools were ever going to get a

(02:18):
chance to prove them wrong. So what we have seen
this time around is no shortage of demand for these schools.
In fact, more schools than there is money allocated. We
see the first public school, or at least the first
public school prepared to admit they want to look at change,
which leads surely to a growing sense charter schools might
have at last have their time. Some may well turn
out to be brilliant, lives may well be changed, and

(02:39):
the recognition of a decent idea may well be widely accepted.
It seems the momentum is on.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yeah. I mean I've never had a problem. Really, I
don't have an investigate of this enough. But you know,
as long as you've got the choice, if you'd want
to go to a different kind of a school, go
to that school, I would have thought that's good, isn't it.
I guess that what we've seen overseas sometimes is that
they get the resource and then some of the normal

(03:07):
schools mess out on some of the resource. I think
that is that the fair. I don't really know when
the view it's actually, look, I'm probably talking through a
whole of money.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Let's move on's rewrapped.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
All right, So data centers they are good.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
When we come to my reading yesterday of a new report,
and I'm sure people at Radio New Zealand and co.
Who went nuts over the AWS was that two weeks
ago to this week? It was a couple of weeks ago.
AWS went and said, hey, we're live. It's billions of
dollars worth of investment, lots of jobs and we're all
good to go on the data centers. A report out
yesterday that data centers contribute and estimated sixteen and a
half billion dollars to the economy support for a further

(03:50):
seventy six billion of broader digital services. This in New
Zealand tech study combined, that's ninety three billion dollars to
the New Zealand economy of economic activity. Ninety three billion dollars.
So all the people who wrote the stories about how
weird it was and miserable it was, and how they
found a patch of dirt out west that somehow hadn't
been built on Luxon got sucked in. The whole thing
was dreadful, you know, Come on, ninety three billion dollars.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Not one hundred billion, is it?

Speaker 3 (04:14):
No, it's no, it's not a no, it's not it's
well sure of one hundred billion. Another twenty we're planned
to under construction these data centers. Betcha. The media will
be all over that. You recon newsroom and ARINZ will
be looking for the twenty. Where are they? Ah? Is
that a patch of dirt? Could that have been a
data center? Was that built?

Speaker 2 (04:30):
And no?

Speaker 3 (04:30):
Wasn't bit A bit was a data center that was
never built? A sector directly employed more than a thousand
people and supported more than six thoy eight hundred additional jobs.
This sounds like good news to me. Goodness, it sounds
like it sounds like it's positive. Wonder Fradio New Zealander
is listening to this. It's positive news. Forecast by the
way to double by twenty thirty two. Fifteen thousand construction jobs.

(04:51):
Fifteen thousand construction jobs. Oh dear, it's not sixteen thousand,
I know, but it's still fifteen thousand, isn't it? That
almost looks like back to front beginning to end? Good news.
Modern data centers are fifty four percent more efficient energy
efficient than the legacy one, so that's good. And they're
forecasting a further ten billion in data center investment over
the next decade. So more money. Just let me get

(05:14):
this right, more money, more jobs, more construction, more input
into the economy, to the tune of ninety three billion
dollars in building.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yeah, but wide apf they built one next to your
house and then on the other side build a fifteen
story apartment block.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
There you go. That's already a New Zealand story. I
ever I heard one.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
And of course I can't stress this highly enough. Having
a data cent the more data centers we have here,
the more it means that your Internet is connected to
the rest of the world via a shorter light lead basically,
and so that means your music, your lossless high rears audio,

(05:55):
and your high definition video will come to you more
reliably and fast there and you won't have that put
up with that little buffer wheel as much anymore. Now
this justin I do believe it's Friday. That means it's
time to mark the week.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
Trying to mark the week, the little piece of news
and current events. It's funnier than listening to Stuart nashgow rogeover.
Women are the Cathedral seven yep, as you've just heard.
If I wasn't from christ you'tured out to be that grip.
But that thing is in such desperate need of being sorted,
so a new plan is most welcome. Jet Star six.
Who doesn't love competition? Hazz and Chuck six. I'm uplifted

(06:35):
by nice pieces of news like that. Family is a
hard work at the best of time, so reconciliation of
any nature is good. France three Another day, another Prime Minister.
There's a reason why they call the French. The French
are the by election three a bust on every level,
but mostly for the lack of interest in basic democracy.
The or Quiggley saga six because the tawdry tale is

(06:56):
slowly being unwound, but also three because it's a shabby,
arrogant display of an aptitude by an institution that should
have known better, and Christian Hawks be admitted as much.
Yesterday Charter schools seven, first public publicly declared school having
a look at the option. The idea might come of
age compulsory key we Saber six between Peters and several

(07:17):
new reports this week. It's building a head of steam
as an idea. The idea's time might well have come
are the Warriors?

Speaker 1 (07:22):
Eight?

Speaker 3 (07:23):
Yep, Webster was right yesterday. It is a new season.
We are six. Six is good, six is alive. Six
is of the ticket to the Big Dance, Let dance
the All Black seven if they can repeat last week,
not just the win, but the take no prisoners one
for the ages. I will die for this victory kind
of when that will be worth any price for a ticket.
New Zealand Inc. Six a couple of stats this week,

(07:46):
including residential construction that shows things are on the turn.
It is shoots, it is hope, it is patchy, but
it just might be Marbo Ferris one.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Oh sorry, that seems to be broken. Idiot. Hang on,
I'm trying to.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
Heapkins four because he can't ex Oh there there it
goes again. How is he going to square that nutty
Pharos type circle? And because he count next year, it's
over before it starts. And that's the week. Copies on
the website and excitingly, marking the week will be part
of the New Zealand First New Zealand Values Pledge that
New Zealanders will have to make. And when they were

(08:26):
allegiance to marking the week, it's an instant seven. Welcome
to New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
If you're wondering why I was so bloody loud during
Mark the Week, is because I said something on here
before that and I was really quiet and I just overcompensated.
Not very professional of me. I should have auditioned it
off there to make sure it was the right level,
but this was about it. So rewrap right, let's finish
up here pitting rugby against league sort of. He's got

(08:56):
all the stats, I tell you, he's sideline stats men today.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
Are stats on rugby and rugby league and they're fascinating.
So the stats on rugby, I told you the other
day the Lions tour was instrumental in turning around the
fortunes of Australian rugby. They were in the red and
the money they collected from the lines to which was
about one hundred and twenty million dollars. They thought it
would be one hundred came out to about one hundred
and twenty million dollars. They're suddenly in the black. Mah.

(09:24):
The numbers are back as well on television and in
the stadium. So the second Pumas clash at Aliens Stadium
sold out two of the three Lines tests were sold out.
The reason the other one wasn't was, of course, it
was at the MCG and they had millions of people there. Anyway,
over fifty thousand tickets have already been sold for the
Wallabies test, this against the All Blacks and Perth. This
is in the early part of October, so that's going

(09:45):
to be a full house. Six sellouts in the previous
nine Wallabies tests. So this is rugby Australian style, the
poor cousin to everything, including the NRAL and the AFL.
The Wallabies will break a cumulative domestic attendance record for
the calendar year, potential total of around three hundred and
seventy one thousand for the seven tests. Overall attendance figure
for the twenty five Lines too was eighty thousand higher

(10:07):
than the twenty thirty version. More broadly, eyes on the
campaign in general and watching on television is up as well,
so all in all they're reaching six point They did
a big national survey are you interested in rugby? The
number is six point eight eight million out of a
population of twenty six to twenty seven million, six point
eight eight million people are interested in rugby, So rugby

(10:28):
is back. Then you come to the NRL, which is
of interest to us because the Warriors obviously so the NRL.
The average time of the ball in play, this is
the most fascinating stamp. The average time of the ball
in play in league is fifty six minutes out of
your ety fifty six minutes the ball is in play?
What is it in rugby? Thirty four? There's your problem,
isn't it? Is that your problem right there? Thirty four

(10:51):
versus fifty six minutes. So far this year, one hundred
and ninety seven games have been played. Seventy games were
decided by a margin of zero to six points, most
since twenty eighteen. On average, forty six point four points
have been scored per game. On average, forty six points
per game, second most in twenty years. Thirty eight teams

(11:16):
after trailing at halfl halftime came back to when That's
the second highest comeback figure ever. The number of big
comebacks unprecedented. Eight teams have prevailed after conceding a half
time deficit of thirteen points or more. That too, is
a new record. So the ball doesn't play more than
it ever has been. There are more points being scored

(11:37):
than there ever have been the tighter games. There are
more than there ever have been in the comebacks are
big as well, so League and League.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
I don't watch as much League as you. How many
times does the half back do a box kick and
hope to get the ball back in League? That happens
at the end of a set of five sometimes, isn't it?

Speaker 3 (11:54):
Yes, it does. It's a standard. At the end of
five you kick, yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
And how often does it work.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
Well, depends what you're trying to do. See after a
box kick after five, you're just trying to get down
to the other end of the field. So it works
every time, I mean the ultimate workers you kick it
down to the other end of the field and the
guy goes catch and he drops Atknoxifford and you get
the ball back. But in general it works every time.
So what you're saying is this is your recession around
the All Blacks. But you are in no position to
talk to us this morning about the All Black success
because you were the person who said we were going

(12:20):
to lose two for two.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
I can't believe it's taken you until today. I've saving
to bring this up.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
I've been saving. We're we're all even on this. Sam
said we'd win two worth South Africa, and he said
one and one on You said one and one on Argentina. No,
you said two on Argentina, one and one in South Africa.
So we've got to lose tomorrow for Sam to be right,
so he'll be wrong. I'm on the comeback because I
said we'd win two in Argentina and I was wrong, obviously,
So at that point Glen was right and he was

(12:46):
leading contender, but he said we'd lose two and two
in South Africa. I said, we're going to win both,
and we will win tomorrow night, which makes me the winner.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
We are you very confident about that?

Speaker 3 (12:54):
Very very very very Do you.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Think that the Springbots can play as badly as they
played in the weekend.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
Very very confident on that. And then we'll win two
out of two in Australia, which will make me the
ultimate winner. So I'm declaring myself the winner for the
season right here, right now.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Oh that's good news for me. Actually, I thought that
you were they're wrong or right about the season, and
I've given my prediction at the end of the seat,
at the beginning of the season. And because the All Blacks,
although they played terribly, or the South Africans played even
worse than them, running in front of each other all
the time last weekend. I was just been wrong with

(13:27):
my predictions. But it turns out if that's the only
one that I'm wrong about, I'm still in this competition
to test it.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
It's a rerat.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Yeah, back to rugby versus league, as Mike alluded to.
Just then it does become they're both on at the
same time. Basically, Warriors start first, then the All Blacks.
So what's he going to do there?

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Morning, Mike, wondering what your priorities are for Saturday sport.
If the Warriors are losing badly, will you switch to
the rugby? Chris, of course I will. I don't watch losers.
I'm not interested in the losers. I give the Warriors
because of my thirty one year dedication. I give them
the start bone in the fact they'd kick off earlier,
and if it's close, I'll stay, and if it's exciting,
I'll stay. If we're winning, will stay. But if there
are a bunch of losers, I'm gone.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
But then how to press him with that bead to
then swap over to the All Blacks and watch them lose.
If the rest of my predictions for the season, our career,
why do you have to be such a down and Glen,
I'm not going to be a down there. If I'm
right about the All Blacks losing, I'll be celebrating. See,
it's a win win situation. If the All Blacks wind,
all we celebrating. If the All Blacks lose, I'll be right,

(14:32):
So I'll be celebrating. I've let see the downside. I
am Glen Hart. That was the rewrap. Let's hope the
Hosk is wrong and I'm right, or let's hope I'm
wrong and he's right. One of those and we'll see
if there you know.

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