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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Rewrap.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Oh goody there and welcome to the Rewrap for Tuesday.
All the best bits from the Mic Hosking Breakfast on
Newstalks there'd be and a silly a package I am
Glenhunt today, more polls. We don't need to take any
notice of migration stats that we probably do. Maori TV
and the challenges they're facing, and Mike's challenges with his
own coffee machine continue. But before any of that, so
(00:49):
the Guy Gaza deal seems to be signed, sealed, delivered
everybody else in the world deciding Gaza's faith as it
doesn't really seem to get too much of a choice.
But anyway, that's going to be good, right, It's gonna
last forever right there. There will never be any conflict
in the Middle East.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Again, right, congratulations, rightly so for where we're at currently
in the Middle East. But Trump is nowhere further along
if you think about it and you know your history,
the many others have been before him. Nineteen seventy eight,
the Camp David Accords KARTI, so that Bagen had worked
until it didn't. Nineteen ninety one Madrid a conference the
older Bush supported by James Baker, Gorbachev roll the long
Shamir wasn't interested. So that was that. Nineteen ninety three
(01:27):
Oslo Accord Clinton a two state solution. This was designed
to pick up on the Camp David efforts. Israel would
recognize the PLO, the PLO would renounce terrorism. Sadly post
the signing, violent protests exploded in the West Bank. Israel
went after them. That was that. So fast forward to today.
Releasing prisoners and hostages is great. If the bombing stops
in the rubble that is Gaza, that's great. But it's
(01:49):
not over. Won't be over, can't be Never has been
the basis for what drives the hate is still real
today has come about largely because of exhaustion. Also, Trump
had guitars back and Katar got bomb by the Israelis.
Does Hamas drop weapons?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Know?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Is a run all in favor of the Israelis all
of a sudden? No, what does a two state solution
territory Wye entailed? The answer is Jerusalem? Of course, is
Israel giving up Jerusalem, slicing Jerusalem? No, they are not
never forgetting, of course, that the reason that Yahoo, any
Israeli leader is in power is not because of any
American president or any series of international pressure groups, but
(02:23):
because of the Israeli voter. And as tight as elections
have been, the side that favors the status quilon gaza
and the Palestinians remains in power. So what we have
today is very good news, and for the next day,
a few days or weeks is very good news. But
as for much after that, well, history has already written
the story a number of times over.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Thanks very much, mister optimism. Certainly, Trump seems to be
pretty damned certain everything's going to be better from now on.
But in love in the room apparently, mind you. I
think he thought that the last time he saw Putin
in Alaska, before Putin hopped on the plane and kept
sending drones to the rest of Europe.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
So it's the rewrap, all.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Right, another pole ah gripping interesting ah.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yes, Now, a couple of things on last night's poll.
What I like about last night's poll is it reminds
us why we really need to pay very little attention
to poles. So point number one, just to take one
reference out of last night's Pole National remained steady on
thirty four percent. Do they well, they might. Last week
they were twenty nine. So the career poll last night.
Last week had them on twenty nine. Last night had
them on thirty four. That's a five point difference. That's
(03:31):
the difference between government and opposition. That's a difference between
a win and a loss, and a big one at
that or indeed, it could be anywhere in between. And
of course it's outside of the plus or minus three percent.
So therefore the credibility of Poles once again has to
be you know, at least asked about. So the margin
of era is the interesting and this poll last night
the current government retains power and by some margin. The
(03:53):
other interesting thing was the obsession the media seems to
have with the prime minister. Who's the popular prime minister?
Luxeon's underwater? Tell you who else is underwater? Elbow? Look
at the numbers yesterday. Elbow's a mile underwater. Australian's allegedly
hate Elbow, he's a negative terry. But hold on, wait
a minute. Didn't Elbow hold an election? Yes he did?
And did Elbow win that election? Yes he did? Did
(04:13):
Elbow win by a record of margin. Yes he did.
So what people tell you in a poll bears no
relevance or reference whatsoever to what they will do on
election day. And that is why we keep saying that
election day is the only poll that counts. How is
it that Elbow can be so negative and yet win
an election by so much? So successful was Elbow? They
now talk of them not only two but three terms
(04:34):
and counting, and yet he's still negative. So a little
bit of perspective is required. So which is the right number?
And given it could be any one of them last night's,
last week's, or any number in between, that currently is
the value of polls?
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Yeah, it must be really depressing to have to do them.
I need to hear us take the piss out of them.
I mean, I guess that there's a lot of stuff
that goes on the world like that, isn't there? Meanwhile,
migration stats are not really improving as far as New
Zealand's concerned. Lots of people are still those brains are
(05:09):
still draining. But why why, Morning Mike.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Another consideration for New Zealand's future is that Labor and Co.
Will likely be back in power from twenty six or
twenty nine enough to put a shutter up anythinking New
Zealand is spine. There's all sorts of interesting things. The
migration thing fascinates me endlessly. One is I can mount
you have done on this program. I can mount you
any number of statistics you want. Steve, I've asked him
directly the other day said, is Australia going gangbuster? Is
(05:36):
not not even close? But that clearly isn't what really
drives people's movement out of one country and into another. Equally,
I can argue, and I've been thinking about this a
lot too. Is Labor a possibility in the election of
next year? Yes? Do I think they're a likely possibility? No,
now here's what I think could happen. Don't think it
will happen. Could happen though, in twenty twenty six Labor loses,
(05:58):
that means the end of Hipkins. Now. Part of the
problem with and why the texture is so right, is
the possibility of Labor, the Maori Party and the Greens
is economically a disaster for this country. So Labour losing
twenty six does that mean they're getting in twenty nine
better than even chants? Obviously, a government lasts a couple
(06:18):
of terms, maybe the last three if they go really well.
Look at alban Ezy for goodness sake. But once you
get rid of Hipkins, does the labor party view of
the world, Because there are labor parties and labor parties.
There's a Bob Hawk labor party, there's an alban Ezy
labor party. There's a Blair labor party. There's a Starmer
labor party. What sort of labor party will it be
by say, twenty twenty nine? That is probably worth thinking.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
I think most people move countries just because it's not
working for them wherever they are, don't they I don't
know that too many people, but quite as much thought
into where they're going as to where they've been, which
I guess that's why I've never really gone anywhere. I'm
easily satisfied. You see now holds me back. I think,
(07:00):
no ambition, no drive the rerav Right, how much Mari
television do we need? I kind of get the impression
from this next lot of audio from micro he doesn't
think we need that much.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Right. Some angst in some media circles at the moment
over funding for Mari television news. Right, A couple of
programs are facing some sort of catt or cancelation or
realignment because of changes in the way that money is
handed out from the Maori funding agency. This is not
new media in this country. Post COVID has gone through
a fairly major overhaul, with many a casualty in a
pile of significant change. The reality for media that is
funded by the state is you beholden to the purveyor
(07:35):
of the purse spring. Under the Labour government, the amount
of money handed out to the media was ridiculous. The
trouble with that sort of largess, of course, can never last.
I mean, fill your boots while you can, because as
sure as night follows day, reality or reckoning will come.
In terms of MARI news programs, here is the part
that eludes me. How is it, as we have seen
this past week, that all we ever get when funding
(07:55):
gets adjusted is a complaintethon basically a lot of moaning
and bitching people bemoaning their lot, fearing change. Here's your solution.
If these programs are of value as they claim they are,
what is stopping what is ever stop them going to
the commercial sector to get advertising or sponsorship support. Why
is the government, the taxpayer the only source of income.
If the Mari news programs are so valuable, where's the
(08:17):
Marie economy? The Mari economy, I have read any number
of times is booming. There are any number of success
stories in the Mari economy. It's a growth sector. It
is by some reports, indeed, a booming sector. Investment has
led to expansion and reinvestment and riches. Where are they
Why aren't they advertising or sponsoring these Mari products? Can
they not see the synergies? How is it the connection
(08:38):
has not been made? Business is always looking for advertising
or marketing outlets. Why are the makers, producers, and hosts
of these programs not looking to the commercial sector for
an ongoing and stable level of support. Why is the
taxpayer the sole provider of their paychecks. If you've got
a product worth its salt, if you are what you claim, relevant,
popular and good at what you do, there's always an answer. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
I mean, that's the rules of capitalism, right there, isn't it?
And sometimes I think we want to sort of it,
to be part with half each way, don't we. We
don't want homeless people on the street, so we want
to look after them, but we also think that people
should be able to look after themselves and pay their
(09:23):
own way. And it's tricky, isn't it. I'm not saying
that I'm hoping that the minority TV people in that
homeless on the street. Of course, that's where my analogy
completely falls down.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
The re wrap.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Perhaps I've just had too much coffee this morning, which
I doubt my cares.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Carl came around to the house yesterday. You'll be thrilled
to know. I know you spent a bit of the
time yesterday worrying about me and my coffee machine. But
I'm here to report it to all good news. As
it turns out, it was an interesting emotional day for
me because the other thing that came out of Carl
is Carl's been to our place before, and he's done
the coffee machine before. But Katie put out a bit
of a call for a couple of other people to
come around and maybe, you know, enjoy the business at
(10:04):
our place of fixing my constantly broken coffee machine. I know,
and ring back and so in a cost of living crisis,
once again, I reiterate the business to people want business
or not? Is it really that hard, honestly to ring
back and say I'm busy or I'm flat out, or
I've got so much business I don't have time for yours,
or I don't know. Yes, I can come around in
a week, say, or just ring back? Is it that hard?
(10:25):
Can't be that hard, But people find it too hard
to ring back. If you find it too hard to
ring back, you'll be amazed at how slow your business
can be. Anyway, Carl turns up, and I'm in a
relationship with my machine. And without sounding like too big
a pratt, I have now three machines. So one machine
he offered to take away, which is in a cupboard
(10:46):
that needs a part, and he offered to take it away,
get the part, put it back together in all its glory,
and I thought, that's a good idea, so we'll do that.
The other machine I had, which I bought when the
first machine and the cupboard broke down, is an okay machine.
It's not a great machine. It's a fine machine. It's
a machine that you know coffee snobs are going you
go one of those, Hey loser. Anyway, So I've got
one of those machines, so I'm not emotionally attached to
(11:08):
it machine. But the one at home I am attached
to because I worked out it's a two thousand and
eight model. So I've had it for whatever number of
years that is, and it's still going. And there comes
a point in life, and it's like relationships. There comes
a point in life where you go, you know what,
you're quite good. I quite like you. And this one
at home's a commercial machine, and so it's got that.
I'm a serious machine. I'm not to be messed with. Yes,
(11:30):
I'll break down a lot because I was made in Italy,
but all things made and literally breakdown a lot. But
stick with me because I'm quite good looking, and I've
got a personality and I'm quirky, and you've known me
for a while and you've come to love it.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Hang on, is this the machinery? Are're trying to convince
the listeners to keep listening to you?
Speaker 2 (11:46):
It's the machine, right, it's the machine. And so when
Karl came around, he's studying with very negative Carl. Initially
he started indicating that things might not be able to
go well anymore, and I thought, oh my god, it's
the end of the machine. The machine exactly. My default
position immediately is twofold one is right. Had a good
time with it, no problems. That's the life of the machine.
Fifteen sixteen years, will move on. I can regaction. Default
(12:09):
position is oh cool. I could buy a new machine.
Then he said, don't worry, I can fix it, and went,
oh so, then I thought I'm stuck with the old machine.
But then I went no, but I love my machine.
It's such a cool machine. So anyway, put it back
together again, and it's working fantastically, And so I'm next
time exactly, and there will be a next time. There
will be a next time. But I am now so
in love with my machine. I am determined to keep
(12:32):
it alive for as long as I'm alive. I want
to die with my machine.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
So we've sort of got a coffee style Terry Shivo situation.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
There's something weird going on. Did I sound weird and
offering that explanation, or is everyone with a coffee machine
going I hear you?
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Brother.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
I immediately off told Mike that I couldn't care less
what the coffee machine looks like. I'd rather have one
that works than one that looks cool. It sounds like
he's got a selection, and as I think I was
discussing this with you yesterday, it's good to have a selection.
I mean, it's very privileged to have a selection of
coffee machines, isn't it. But you know, sometimes some people
(13:11):
find that one does the espresso very well and another
one profs the milk better. For example, what do you
mean it sounds like I'm talking from experience. Don't be silly.
That would make me as weird as Mike asking. I
am Glen Hard And that was the rewrap, and we'll
be back to find out how weird Mike is tomorrow.
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Rewrap.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Oh goody there and welcome to the Rewrap for Tuesday.
All the best bits from the Mic Hosking Breakfast on
Newstalks there'd be and a silly a package I am
Glenhunt today, more polls. We don't need to take any
notice of migration stats that we probably do. Maori TV
and the challenges they're facing, and Mike's challenges with his
own coffee machine continue. But before any of that, so
(00:49):
the Guy Gaza deal seems to be signed, sealed, delivered
everybody else in the world deciding Gaza's faith as it
doesn't really seem to get too much of a choice.
But anyway, that's going to be good, right, It's gonna
last forever right there. There will never be any conflict
in the Middle East.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Again, right, congratulations, rightly so for where we're at currently
in the Middle East. But Trump is nowhere further along
if you think about it and you know your history,
the many others have been before him. Nineteen seventy eight,
the Camp David Accords KARTI, so that Bagen had worked
until it didn't. Nineteen ninety one Madrid a conference the
older Bush supported by James Baker, Gorbachev roll the long
Shamir wasn't interested. So that was that. Nineteen ninety three
(01:27):
Oslo Accord Clinton a two state solution. This was designed
to pick up on the Camp David efforts. Israel would
recognize the PLO, the PLO would renounce terrorism. Sadly post
the signing, violent protests exploded in the West Bank. Israel
went after them. That was that. So fast forward to today.
Releasing prisoners and hostages is great. If the bombing stops
in the rubble that is Gaza, that's great. But it's
(01:49):
not over. Won't be over, can't be Never has been
the basis for what drives the hate is still real
today has come about largely because of exhaustion. Also, Trump
had guitars back and Katar got bomb by the Israelis.
Does Hamas drop weapons?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Know?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Is a run all in favor of the Israelis all
of a sudden? No, what does a two state solution
territory Wye entailed? The answer is Jerusalem? Of course, is
Israel giving up Jerusalem, slicing Jerusalem? No, they are not
never forgetting, of course, that the reason that Yahoo, any
Israeli leader is in power is not because of any
American president or any series of international pressure groups, but
(02:23):
because of the Israeli voter. And as tight as elections
have been, the side that favors the status quilon gaza
and the Palestinians remains in power. So what we have
today is very good news, and for the next day,
a few days or weeks is very good news. But
as for much after that, well, history has already written
the story a number of times over.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Thanks very much, mister optimism. Certainly, Trump seems to be
pretty damned certain everything's going to be better from now on.
But in love in the room apparently, mind you. I
think he thought that the last time he saw Putin
in Alaska, before Putin hopped on the plane and kept
sending drones to the rest of Europe.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
So it's the rewrap, all.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Right, another pole ah gripping interesting ah.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yes, Now, a couple of things on last night's poll.
What I like about last night's poll is it reminds
us why we really need to pay very little attention
to poles. So point number one, just to take one
reference out of last night's Pole National remained steady on
thirty four percent. Do they well, they might. Last week
they were twenty nine. So the career poll last night.
Last week had them on twenty nine. Last night had
them on thirty four. That's a five point difference. That's
(03:31):
the difference between government and opposition. That's a difference between
a win and a loss, and a big one at
that or indeed, it could be anywhere in between. And
of course it's outside of the plus or minus three percent.
So therefore the credibility of Poles once again has to
be you know, at least asked about. So the margin
of era is the interesting and this poll last night
the current government retains power and by some margin. The
(03:53):
other interesting thing was the obsession the media seems to
have with the prime minister. Who's the popular prime minister?
Luxeon's underwater? Tell you who else is underwater? Elbow? Look
at the numbers yesterday. Elbow's a mile underwater. Australian's allegedly
hate Elbow, he's a negative terry. But hold on, wait
a minute. Didn't Elbow hold an election? Yes he did?
And did Elbow win that election? Yes he did? Did
(04:13):
Elbow win by a record of margin. Yes he did.
So what people tell you in a poll bears no
relevance or reference whatsoever to what they will do on
election day. And that is why we keep saying that
election day is the only poll that counts. How is
it that Elbow can be so negative and yet win
an election by so much? So successful was Elbow? They
now talk of them not only two but three terms
(04:34):
and counting, and yet he's still negative. So a little
bit of perspective is required. So which is the right number?
And given it could be any one of them last night's,
last week's, or any number in between, that currently is
the value of polls?
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Yeah, it must be really depressing to have to do them.
I need to hear us take the piss out of them.
I mean, I guess that there's a lot of stuff
that goes on the world like that, isn't there? Meanwhile,
migration stats are not really improving as far as New
Zealand's concerned. Lots of people are still those brains are
(05:09):
still draining. But why why, Morning Mike.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Another consideration for New Zealand's future is that Labor and Co.
Will likely be back in power from twenty six or
twenty nine enough to put a shutter up anythinking New
Zealand is spine. There's all sorts of interesting things. The
migration thing fascinates me endlessly. One is I can mount
you have done on this program. I can mount you
any number of statistics you want. Steve, I've asked him
directly the other day said, is Australia going gangbuster? Is
(05:36):
not not even close? But that clearly isn't what really
drives people's movement out of one country and into another. Equally,
I can argue, and I've been thinking about this a
lot too. Is Labor a possibility in the election of
next year? Yes? Do I think they're a likely possibility? No,
now here's what I think could happen. Don't think it
will happen. Could happen though, in twenty twenty six Labor loses,
(05:58):
that means the end of Hipkins. Now. Part of the
problem with and why the texture is so right, is
the possibility of Labor, the Maori Party and the Greens
is economically a disaster for this country. So Labour losing
twenty six does that mean they're getting in twenty nine
better than even chants? Obviously, a government lasts a couple
(06:18):
of terms, maybe the last three if they go really well.
Look at alban Ezy for goodness sake. But once you
get rid of Hipkins, does the labor party view of
the world, Because there are labor parties and labor parties.
There's a Bob Hawk labor party, there's an alban Ezy
labor party. There's a Blair labor party. There's a Starmer
labor party. What sort of labor party will it be
by say, twenty twenty nine? That is probably worth thinking.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
I think most people move countries just because it's not
working for them wherever they are, don't they I don't
know that too many people, but quite as much thought
into where they're going as to where they've been, which
I guess that's why I've never really gone anywhere. I'm
easily satisfied. You see now holds me back. I think,
(07:00):
no ambition, no drive the rerav Right, how much Mari
television do we need? I kind of get the impression
from this next lot of audio from micro he doesn't
think we need that much.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Right. Some angst in some media circles at the moment
over funding for Mari television news. Right, A couple of
programs are facing some sort of catt or cancelation or
realignment because of changes in the way that money is
handed out from the Maori funding agency. This is not
new media in this country. Post COVID has gone through
a fairly major overhaul, with many a casualty in a
pile of significant change. The reality for media that is
funded by the state is you beholden to the purveyor
(07:35):
of the purse spring. Under the Labour government, the amount
of money handed out to the media was ridiculous. The
trouble with that sort of largess, of course, can never last.
I mean, fill your boots while you can, because as
sure as night follows day, reality or reckoning will come.
In terms of MARI news programs, here is the part
that eludes me. How is it, as we have seen
this past week, that all we ever get when funding
(07:55):
gets adjusted is a complaintethon basically a lot of moaning
and bitching people bemoaning their lot, fearing change. Here's your solution.
If these programs are of value as they claim they are,
what is stopping what is ever stop them going to
the commercial sector to get advertising or sponsorship support. Why
is the government, the taxpayer the only source of income.
If the Mari news programs are so valuable, where's the
(08:17):
Marie economy? The Mari economy, I have read any number
of times is booming. There are any number of success
stories in the Mari economy. It's a growth sector. It
is by some reports, indeed, a booming sector. Investment has
led to expansion and reinvestment and riches. Where are they
Why aren't they advertising or sponsoring these Mari products? Can
they not see the synergies? How is it the connection
(08:38):
has not been made? Business is always looking for advertising
or marketing outlets. Why are the makers, producers, and hosts
of these programs not looking to the commercial sector for
an ongoing and stable level of support. Why is the
taxpayer the sole provider of their paychecks. If you've got
a product worth its salt, if you are what you claim, relevant,
popular and good at what you do, there's always an answer. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
I mean, that's the rules of capitalism, right there, isn't it?
And sometimes I think we want to sort of it,
to be part with half each way, don't we. We
don't want homeless people on the street, so we want
to look after them, but we also think that people
should be able to look after themselves and pay their
(09:23):
own way. And it's tricky, isn't it. I'm not saying
that I'm hoping that the minority TV people in that
homeless on the street. Of course, that's where my analogy
completely falls down.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
The re wrap.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Perhaps I've just had too much coffee this morning, which
I doubt my cares.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Carl came around to the house yesterday. You'll be thrilled
to know. I know you spent a bit of the
time yesterday worrying about me and my coffee machine. But
I'm here to report it to all good news. As
it turns out, it was an interesting emotional day for
me because the other thing that came out of Carl
is Carl's been to our place before, and he's done
the coffee machine before. But Katie put out a bit
of a call for a couple of other people to
come around and maybe, you know, enjoy the business at
(10:04):
our place of fixing my constantly broken coffee machine. I know,
and ring back and so in a cost of living crisis,
once again, I reiterate the business to people want business
or not? Is it really that hard, honestly to ring
back and say I'm busy or I'm flat out, or
I've got so much business I don't have time for yours,
or I don't know. Yes, I can come around in
a week, say, or just ring back? Is it that hard?
(10:25):
Can't be that hard, But people find it too hard
to ring back. If you find it too hard to
ring back, you'll be amazed at how slow your business
can be. Anyway, Carl turns up, and I'm in a
relationship with my machine. And without sounding like too big
a pratt, I have now three machines. So one machine
he offered to take away, which is in a cupboard
(10:46):
that needs a part, and he offered to take it away,
get the part, put it back together in all its glory,
and I thought, that's a good idea, so we'll do that.
The other machine I had, which I bought when the
first machine and the cupboard broke down, is an okay machine.
It's not a great machine. It's a fine machine. It's
a machine that you know coffee snobs are going you
go one of those, Hey loser. Anyway, So I've got
one of those machines, so I'm not emotionally attached to
(11:08):
it machine. But the one at home I am attached
to because I worked out it's a two thousand and
eight model. So I've had it for whatever number of
years that is, and it's still going. And there comes
a point in life, and it's like relationships. There comes
a point in life where you go, you know what,
you're quite good. I quite like you. And this one
at home's a commercial machine, and so it's got that.
I'm a serious machine. I'm not to be messed with. Yes,
(11:30):
I'll break down a lot because I was made in Italy,
but all things made and literally breakdown a lot. But
stick with me because I'm quite good looking, and I've
got a personality and I'm quirky, and you've known me
for a while and you've come to love it.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Hang on, is this the machinery? Are're trying to convince
the listeners to keep listening to you?
Speaker 2 (11:46):
It's the machine, right, it's the machine. And so when
Karl came around, he's studying with very negative Carl. Initially
he started indicating that things might not be able to
go well anymore, and I thought, oh my god, it's
the end of the machine. The machine exactly. My default
position immediately is twofold one is right. Had a good
time with it, no problems. That's the life of the machine.
Fifteen sixteen years, will move on. I can regaction. Default
(12:09):
position is oh cool. I could buy a new machine.
Then he said, don't worry, I can fix it, and went,
oh so, then I thought I'm stuck with the old machine.
But then I went no, but I love my machine.
It's such a cool machine. So anyway, put it back
together again, and it's working fantastically, And so I'm next
time exactly, and there will be a next time. There
will be a next time. But I am now so
in love with my machine. I am determined to keep
(12:32):
it alive for as long as I'm alive. I want
to die with my machine.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
So we've sort of got a coffee style Terry Shivo situation.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
There's something weird going on. Did I sound weird and
offering that explanation, or is everyone with a coffee machine
going I hear you?
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Brother.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
I immediately off told Mike that I couldn't care less
what the coffee machine looks like. I'd rather have one
that works than one that looks cool. It sounds like
he's got a selection, and as I think I was
discussing this with you yesterday, it's good to have a selection.
I mean, it's very privileged to have a selection of
coffee machines, isn't it. But you know, sometimes some people
(13:11):
find that one does the espresso very well and another
one profs the milk better. For example, what do you
mean it sounds like I'm talking from experience. Don't be silly.
That would make me as weird as Mike asking. I
am Glen Hard And that was the rewrap, and we'll
be back to find out how weird Mike is tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
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