October 15, 2025 • 12 mins
THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Thursday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) He Certainly Saw Some Stuff/A Calling, Not Just a Job/Buy a House, Why Don't You?/Beef Brewing
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
The Rewrap.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Okay, welcome to the Rewrap for Thursday. All the best
buts from the mic asking Breakfast on News Talks d
B and a Sillier package Irom Glenhart today teaching why
would you do it? And if you have decided you'll
do it, why would you not do it? Our first
home buyers? Why would you do that? And can you
do that? And I think we've got some beef brewing,
(00:48):
not between the Drive Show and the Breakfast Show, but
between somebody who was on the Drive Show and somebody
who was on the Breakfast Show. But before any of that,
Jim Bolger has died aged ninety.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
If someone texted me about Bolger and said, didn't isn't
he the one who gave us mmp? No, we gave
ourselves MMP. It was called a referendum, you count blame.
We voted for it for goodness. So the funny thing
about Jim Bolgia I can't work out whether he was
covering his true colors when he was in power. Three terms.
Success story can't argue with that. I don't rate him
personally that highly as a prime minister, but three terms
(01:21):
you can't argue with came to an end when he
left the country in Shipley Roldham. He beat maclay of course,
to become leader of the opposition. That was quite interesting
at the time. McLay shud never been the leader of
the opposition, but he was never going to last and
bulge A saw to that. But I can't work out
whether Bolgia was pretending to be a conservative while he
was Prime minister, because in later life, of course, he
got hired by the Labor government to do that fair paything.
(01:43):
The last thing really he was in public life. He
was doing that fair paything, and he came up with
the idea that ten percent of people in the workforce,
if you wanted sort of a cross industry, pan industry
type agreement, you should all have it, which struck me
as a very left leaning, very labour esque, very pro
union type of approach. And I thought did he mellow
in older age or was he always like that? He
(02:05):
just tried to hide it round his national mates could
never work out the answers.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Yes, so surprisingly complex. I think it's easy to sort
of think of him as a as a sort of
a basic kind of a guy in many ways, but
you know, he was obviously a bit of a Republican
as well. Some people speculated that was because of his
Irish roots, like he'd never wanted to be, you know,
Sir Jim for example, a rewrap and an actual fact.
(02:32):
When I was putting this little montage together to honor
him this morning, you realized just how many sort of
big historic events he was in charge of New Zealand during.
Does that make sense.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
The life and times of Jim Bulger I see the world.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
It's not the time has company to have a New
Zealander as head of State of New Zealand. So there
is can I say emphatically no political crisis in New Zealand.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
It is new what we have, but.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
We have the largest party with the largest number of
seats and we will use that to make progress on
the issues that are important to New Zealand over the
next three years. The balance in terms of experience and
new members coming through, I think is reflected in the lineup,
(03:37):
and I'm looking for a improved performance in Parliament and outsider.
The Commonwealth offers a forum for its members to meet
in an informal atmosphere where we can speak really, if necessary,
firmly among friends. If we hadn't been prepared to do something,
if we were just totally passive, then I think the
(03:58):
Commonwealth would have soon last elevance. Yes, the choice of
peace or war has been with him and Iraq's unprovoked
act of aggression against Qwait. Iraq has had almost six
months and bye with the United Nations Security Council demand.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Thoughts withdrawal from Quait. What do attack? Demonstrated that an effect.
There are missiles in their thousands and guides every day
called aeroplanes leading with pure and if you can commandeer
one of those, then you have a missile at your
hands and the people below you at your mercy.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
This government will aim to last a full three year term,
no reason why it shouldn't. We want to give stability.
We set out to target low to middle income families
with a job with Chiorren That was the group of
New Zealanders who deserve the greatest break at this stage,
as it were the first harvest from the recovery. It's
(04:59):
the first time for a long time the Prime Minister
of New Zealand has been able to talk to the
President of the United.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
States in terms of determining this should lead what I
I'd been doing this looking at who can best articulate
the issues we have to deal with, and some of
them are very big the.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
Day He's got to to own element of sadness for
myself and for those who work closely with me. But
I leave with no regrets.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
James Brendan Bolger, Prime Minister from November of nineteen ninety
two December of nineteen ninety Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
I knew that all those Today in History cats that
I used to play when Paul Holmes was the host
of the show would come to Andy again one day.
Rewrap right, So are we due for some more teacher strikes?
Are we? Well? Why does this keep happening? Can't we
just get on with it?
Speaker 4 (05:46):
In one of LiF's small ironies, speaking of industrial actions,
the teachers spend another week in Merston indust re election.
I got an email yesterday from a bloke who was
taught by my mother in the nineties. My mum was
a teacher and I'm pretty sure she never went on strike.
I certainly don't remember a picket line at our place,
a placard or days at home when I was a kid.
In fact, even as a kid as a student, I
(06:06):
don't remember having a day off school because of strikes.
Do you remember a lot of kids in the classroom?
Thirty something kids in the classroom, one of today's great complaints.
Of course, didn't seem to be an issue then, or
if it was, we just got on with it. I
also remember we didn't have a lot at home. Given
teachers didn't get paid all that much then, don't now
sort of well, I mean, you can say these days
that quite a few teachers are earning a six figure salary,
(06:27):
so we've reached a point where at least some are
pretty well rewarded. Anyway, the email, out of the blue,
he writes and tells me he was taught by my mum,
who had inspired him into teaching, which is where he
is to this day. And he was back in the
old hometown for a week or so and was hoping
to catch up with mum so he could buy her
a coffee and thank her for her inspiration. And that,
(06:49):
to me is the essence of teaching. You were in
it for the right reasons, and as a result, you
were passionate about what you did and as a result
of that passionate rubbed off on some of those around you.
It's not a bad thing, don't you think to think
back thirty odd years and remember why you were doing
what it is you do and pin it in part
down to a single person or motivation, and then, having
(07:11):
done that, reach out and want to in some way
pay it back. How many teachers today do it for
the right reasons and are genuinely passionate and want others
to carry the torch. How many know the pay is
never great, but that's not why you do it. How
many on the packet line out of the classroom today,
we'll get an email in thirty years time thanking them
for their hard work and wanting to acknowledge the influence
(07:33):
in the answer. Maybe the difference between then and now.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
I've never really liked that it's a vocation, not a
job or whatever the expression is. You know, it's a calling.
I mean, yeah, sure, obviously the people who feel that
way are going to be better teachers. But I still
feel like the better teachers should be paid a hell
of a lot more than I don't know, the heads
(07:59):
of finance companies and things like that. There's something wrong
somewhere it's a rewrapping if you're speaking of finance companies
and that sort of thing. Is that harder or easier
for people to buy their first home At the moment,
I've got a bit confused with the interest rates thing
(08:19):
and all that.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
One of the great myths of the modern economy is
the idea that young people can't afford a house. Now,
the facts are that for every house sold, about a
quarter of them, sometimes a little bit more, about twenty
seven percent hour In fact, first time is that figure
has been remarkably solid over any number of years. And
any type of market can be expensive. Yes to some
people miss out. Yes, are some areas better or worse
than others. Yes, But in a world where the negative cells,
(08:42):
if you can convince people that the young are victims,
it can become very political, very fast. Of course, no
government can manipulate the market, and for all the governments
that have promised a solution that more often than not
ends and tears, And for every levy ap pulled, there
is a counter reaction elsewhere, which is why it is
often best to leave the market to its own devices. Australia, though,
is dabbling and housing as we speak The latest scheme
(09:03):
involves getting first buyers or first time buyers into their
own place where they five percent deposit any first timer
any salary. Personally, I've always liked the idea of getting
young people into housing. Easier entry, the better. Often the
real impediment, and it's true here of course, is not
the mortgage, but the downpayment. I mean twenty percent of
a million bucks, which is basically the equation in a
(09:24):
lot of New Zealand is two hundred thousand dollars. That's
a mountain for most and an insurmountable one. Even one
hundred thousand dollars is hard work. But what about fifty
fifty grand? Five percent? That's not hard small town New Zealand.
You go to a cheaper place six hundred thousand dollars
house thirty grand, that's doable. That's your average key, we say,
but why aren't we doing that? Do you lose on
housing rarely? Is it a good long term investment?
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
In Australia they cap the price to a first home
type level, so for example, at the moment in Sydney
it's one point five million less in Melbourne. But what
it will do is get more people into houses. Do
people want that? Yes they do. The Reserve Bank worries
about a price surge, but this is being done ironically
in the middle of a price search. Australian housing is
often running. Their debate about affordability is raging hot, and
(10:07):
yet the government is all for it. And note it's
a labor government. So what about us? Does our housing
market need a boost? Yes it does. The first time
is need a leg up? See what's stopping us?
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Take it from me? Owning a house? Is it all
that's cracked up to be? The guys came and strapped
the deck and stained it. Then I got the window
slash house cleaner to come around and clean and wash
the windows in the house that I was looking Christine.
(10:39):
Then the deck guys came back and did the value
of strades and surrounds around the debt and that of
course then made the windows and all the deck furniture
that I just cleaned after having the deck done dirty again.
So I'm going to have to clean the windows myself
and do the furniture again. So rewrap turn enough of
(11:01):
my problems. You think I've got problems? How would you
like to be? Mike Host being bagged by his own
senior politic editor.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Now, speaking of politics yesterday, I think my advice to
the Prime Minister yesterday actually worked. If you were watching
question time, Luxon was on fire, which was good, but
unfortunately some people didn't see it that way. I heard
some criticism this morning of his performance in the house.
What I looked at him that and with that perspective,
(11:29):
today he performs I think very well. You're talking about
what Mike said, Yes, and I think Mike's got a point. No,
he doesn't because he I don't know whether he nobody
knows politics like Mike knows that of course, which he
continually tells us.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
It's quite a good burn.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Wasn't a bad burn. But where Barry made the critical
mistake is Luxeon was good in the house yesterday. Ask
yourself why he was good in the house, Barry Seeker.
I agree with Mike, but I do of course you'd
agree with you. Hosts are all the same, No, we're not.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Yes, I think that's that's what you call a beef,
because Barry in hospital've got beef. Now it sounds like
Barry and hither have got beef, to be honest, which
is probably more serious. I hope they don't take their
work home with them, and I certainly don't. I've forgotten
this pretty much at the moment I leave the building,
(12:26):
but don't worry. I'll remember all about it again tomorrow.
Firstly with news Talks. They had been tuned into that
podcast ah which the boy. We have fun on that one.
And then yes, I will be back again doing this
one again at around this time tomorrow. See then.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
For more from news Talks. There'd be listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iart Radio.
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk said B.
Follow this and our wide ranger of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
The Rewrap.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Okay, welcome to the Rewrap for Thursday. All the best
buts from the mic asking Breakfast on News Talks d
B and a Sillier package Irom Glenhart today teaching why
would you do it? And if you have decided you'll
do it, why would you not do it? Our first
home buyers? Why would you do that? And can you
do that? And I think we've got some beef brewing,
(00:48):
not between the Drive Show and the Breakfast Show, but
between somebody who was on the Drive Show and somebody
who was on the Breakfast Show. But before any of that,
Jim Bolger has died aged ninety.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
If someone texted me about Bolger and said, didn't isn't
he the one who gave us mmp? No, we gave
ourselves MMP. It was called a referendum, you count blame.
We voted for it for goodness. So the funny thing
about Jim Bolgia I can't work out whether he was
covering his true colors when he was in power. Three terms.
Success story can't argue with that. I don't rate him
personally that highly as a prime minister, but three terms
(01:21):
you can't argue with came to an end when he
left the country in Shipley Roldham. He beat maclay of course,
to become leader of the opposition. That was quite interesting
at the time. McLay shud never been the leader of
the opposition, but he was never going to last and
bulge A saw to that. But I can't work out
whether Bolgia was pretending to be a conservative while he
was Prime minister, because in later life, of course, he
got hired by the Labor government to do that fair paything.
(01:43):
The last thing really he was in public life. He
was doing that fair paything, and he came up with
the idea that ten percent of people in the workforce,
if you wanted sort of a cross industry, pan industry
type agreement, you should all have it, which struck me
as a very left leaning, very labour esque, very pro
union type of approach. And I thought did he mellow
in older age or was he always like that? He
(02:05):
just tried to hide it round his national mates could
never work out the answers.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Yes, so surprisingly complex. I think it's easy to sort
of think of him as a as a sort of
a basic kind of a guy in many ways, but
you know, he was obviously a bit of a Republican
as well. Some people speculated that was because of his
Irish roots, like he'd never wanted to be, you know,
Sir Jim for example, a rewrap and an actual fact.
(02:32):
When I was putting this little montage together to honor
him this morning, you realized just how many sort of
big historic events he was in charge of New Zealand during.
Does that make sense.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
The life and times of Jim Bulger I see the world.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
It's not the time has company to have a New
Zealander as head of State of New Zealand. So there
is can I say emphatically no political crisis in New Zealand.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
It is new what we have, but.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
We have the largest party with the largest number of
seats and we will use that to make progress on
the issues that are important to New Zealand over the
next three years. The balance in terms of experience and
new members coming through, I think is reflected in the lineup,
(03:37):
and I'm looking for a improved performance in Parliament and outsider.
The Commonwealth offers a forum for its members to meet
in an informal atmosphere where we can speak really, if necessary,
firmly among friends. If we hadn't been prepared to do something,
if we were just totally passive, then I think the
(03:58):
Commonwealth would have soon last elevance. Yes, the choice of
peace or war has been with him and Iraq's unprovoked
act of aggression against Qwait. Iraq has had almost six
months and bye with the United Nations Security Council demand.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Thoughts withdrawal from Quait. What do attack? Demonstrated that an effect.
There are missiles in their thousands and guides every day
called aeroplanes leading with pure and if you can commandeer
one of those, then you have a missile at your
hands and the people below you at your mercy.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
This government will aim to last a full three year term,
no reason why it shouldn't. We want to give stability.
We set out to target low to middle income families
with a job with Chiorren That was the group of
New Zealanders who deserve the greatest break at this stage,
as it were the first harvest from the recovery. It's
(04:59):
the first time for a long time the Prime Minister
of New Zealand has been able to talk to the
President of the United.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
States in terms of determining this should lead what I
I'd been doing this looking at who can best articulate
the issues we have to deal with, and some of
them are very big the.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
Day He's got to to own element of sadness for
myself and for those who work closely with me. But
I leave with no regrets.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
James Brendan Bolger, Prime Minister from November of nineteen ninety
two December of nineteen ninety Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
I knew that all those Today in History cats that
I used to play when Paul Holmes was the host
of the show would come to Andy again one day.
Rewrap right, So are we due for some more teacher strikes?
Are we? Well? Why does this keep happening? Can't we
just get on with it?
Speaker 4 (05:46):
In one of LiF's small ironies, speaking of industrial actions,
the teachers spend another week in Merston indust re election.
I got an email yesterday from a bloke who was
taught by my mother in the nineties. My mum was
a teacher and I'm pretty sure she never went on strike.
I certainly don't remember a picket line at our place,
a placard or days at home when I was a kid.
In fact, even as a kid as a student, I
(06:06):
don't remember having a day off school because of strikes.
Do you remember a lot of kids in the classroom?
Thirty something kids in the classroom, one of today's great complaints.
Of course, didn't seem to be an issue then, or
if it was, we just got on with it. I
also remember we didn't have a lot at home. Given
teachers didn't get paid all that much then, don't now
sort of well, I mean, you can say these days
that quite a few teachers are earning a six figure salary,
(06:27):
so we've reached a point where at least some are
pretty well rewarded. Anyway, the email, out of the blue,
he writes and tells me he was taught by my mum,
who had inspired him into teaching, which is where he
is to this day. And he was back in the
old hometown for a week or so and was hoping
to catch up with mum so he could buy her
a coffee and thank her for her inspiration. And that,
(06:49):
to me is the essence of teaching. You were in
it for the right reasons, and as a result, you
were passionate about what you did and as a result
of that passionate rubbed off on some of those around you.
It's not a bad thing, don't you think to think
back thirty odd years and remember why you were doing
what it is you do and pin it in part
down to a single person or motivation, and then, having
(07:11):
done that, reach out and want to in some way
pay it back. How many teachers today do it for
the right reasons and are genuinely passionate and want others
to carry the torch. How many know the pay is
never great, but that's not why you do it. How
many on the packet line out of the classroom today,
we'll get an email in thirty years time thanking them
for their hard work and wanting to acknowledge the influence
(07:33):
in the answer. Maybe the difference between then and now.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
I've never really liked that it's a vocation, not a
job or whatever the expression is. You know, it's a calling.
I mean, yeah, sure, obviously the people who feel that
way are going to be better teachers. But I still
feel like the better teachers should be paid a hell
of a lot more than I don't know, the heads
(07:59):
of finance companies and things like that. There's something wrong
somewhere it's a rewrapping if you're speaking of finance companies
and that sort of thing. Is that harder or easier
for people to buy their first home At the moment,
I've got a bit confused with the interest rates thing
(08:19):
and all that.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
One of the great myths of the modern economy is
the idea that young people can't afford a house. Now,
the facts are that for every house sold, about a
quarter of them, sometimes a little bit more, about twenty
seven percent hour In fact, first time is that figure
has been remarkably solid over any number of years. And
any type of market can be expensive. Yes to some
people miss out. Yes, are some areas better or worse
than others. Yes, But in a world where the negative cells,
(08:42):
if you can convince people that the young are victims,
it can become very political, very fast. Of course, no
government can manipulate the market, and for all the governments
that have promised a solution that more often than not
ends and tears, And for every levy ap pulled, there
is a counter reaction elsewhere, which is why it is
often best to leave the market to its own devices. Australia, though,
is dabbling and housing as we speak The latest scheme
(09:03):
involves getting first buyers or first time buyers into their
own place where they five percent deposit any first timer
any salary. Personally, I've always liked the idea of getting
young people into housing. Easier entry, the better. Often the
real impediment, and it's true here of course, is not
the mortgage, but the downpayment. I mean twenty percent of
a million bucks, which is basically the equation in a
(09:24):
lot of New Zealand is two hundred thousand dollars. That's
a mountain for most and an insurmountable one. Even one
hundred thousand dollars is hard work. But what about fifty
fifty grand? Five percent? That's not hard small town New Zealand.
You go to a cheaper place six hundred thousand dollars
house thirty grand, that's doable. That's your average key, we say,
but why aren't we doing that? Do you lose on
housing rarely? Is it a good long term investment?
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
In Australia they cap the price to a first home
type level, so for example, at the moment in Sydney
it's one point five million less in Melbourne. But what
it will do is get more people into houses. Do
people want that? Yes they do. The Reserve Bank worries
about a price surge, but this is being done ironically
in the middle of a price search. Australian housing is
often running. Their debate about affordability is raging hot, and
(10:07):
yet the government is all for it. And note it's
a labor government. So what about us? Does our housing
market need a boost? Yes it does. The first time
is need a leg up? See what's stopping us?
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Take it from me? Owning a house? Is it all
that's cracked up to be? The guys came and strapped
the deck and stained it. Then I got the window
slash house cleaner to come around and clean and wash
the windows in the house that I was looking Christine.
(10:39):
Then the deck guys came back and did the value
of strades and surrounds around the debt and that of
course then made the windows and all the deck furniture
that I just cleaned after having the deck done dirty again.
So I'm going to have to clean the windows myself
and do the furniture again. So rewrap turn enough of
(11:01):
my problems. You think I've got problems? How would you
like to be? Mike Host being bagged by his own
senior politic editor.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Now, speaking of politics yesterday, I think my advice to
the Prime Minister yesterday actually worked. If you were watching
question time, Luxon was on fire, which was good, but
unfortunately some people didn't see it that way. I heard
some criticism this morning of his performance in the house.
What I looked at him that and with that perspective,
(11:29):
today he performs I think very well. You're talking about
what Mike said, Yes, and I think Mike's got a point. No,
he doesn't because he I don't know whether he nobody
knows politics like Mike knows that of course, which he
continually tells us.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
It's quite a good burn.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Wasn't a bad burn. But where Barry made the critical
mistake is Luxeon was good in the house yesterday. Ask
yourself why he was good in the house, Barry Seeker.
I agree with Mike, but I do of course you'd
agree with you. Hosts are all the same, No, we're not.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Yes, I think that's that's what you call a beef,
because Barry in hospital've got beef. Now it sounds like
Barry and hither have got beef, to be honest, which
is probably more serious. I hope they don't take their
work home with them, and I certainly don't. I've forgotten
this pretty much at the moment I leave the building,
(12:26):
but don't worry. I'll remember all about it again tomorrow.
Firstly with news Talks. They had been tuned into that
podcast ah which the boy. We have fun on that one.
And then yes, I will be back again doing this
one again at around this time tomorrow. See then.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
For more from news Talks. There'd be listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iart Radio.
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