October 30, 2025 • 10 mins
THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Friday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) Just Because We Voted for It, Doesn't Mean We Want It/Saving the World Is a Process/Mark the Week/The DOGE Effect
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Rewrap there and welcome to the Rewrap for Friday.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
All the best buts from the mic asking breakfast on
news talks 'd be and a sillier package. I am
Glen Hart and today we're going to be talking the
Dutch election, so I know you're gripped by that. More
and more people have decided that climate change is not
really to them. We'll mark the week because it's Friday,
that's what we do. And elon Musk how much did
(00:54):
doging everything cost them? And Tesla sales? But before any
of that, Yes, this whole electoral Reform report and the
suggestions and all the rest of it, what it might
make of that looking back at.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
It now For a group that normally seems to nail
ideas and present will, the New Zealand Initiative this week
went off peacet with their thirtieth anniversary of MMP reports
Smaller Cabinet. They say, good idea, get rid of the overhang.
Good idea, but then they go and say more MPs.
What on earth are they thinking of the main point
they make and I think even for those of us
that didn't vote for MMP, we pretty much need to
(01:26):
concede that it has provided a fairer, more representative parliament. Now,
the question I would have is that actually what we
want it? The base level argument over representation is do
some of the lesser lights represent a sector of lesser
lights in the wider community. If the community has got
its collection of half wits and buffoons, do we want
a slice of that in the nation's parliament? Because that
(01:47):
is a version of course of representation. Now I would
argue no, I would argue it'd far rather have a
selection of highly qualified, dedicated, hard working professionals. But if
a cross section is what we voted for, then across
section is what we've received. The great fraud of MMP
has been the off use line by people like the
Greens Rod Donald, if you remember him that the tale
would not wag the dog, The tail has most certainly
(02:09):
wagged the dog many times over. If the circumstances are right,
and they have been more than once, a very small
percentage of the vote can wield an astonishing and destructive
amount of power. Then, of course, if we're marking thirty years,
we can also relitigate caun't we the issue of knowledge
At the time, MMP won not because it was better
or the best, but because MMP had the best run
(02:30):
anti FPP campaign and too many New Zealanders couldn't be
bothered educating themselves about the alternatives. So MMP had the
biggest headlines, and enough people were fed up with Muldoon
and Longing and scraps and bulldozing governments that they threw
out the current and the hope that you was better.
We will not change the system again. Those days are
gone and a doubt will ever, in fact even tinker
with it. But if we do, more MPs will not
(02:53):
be top of our wish list.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Yeah, so that's a no minister as opposed to a
yes minister from Mike there I think or not certainly
know who any more ministers. And so say all of that.
So we wrap while we're talking elections and electoral reform.
The Dutch, they've had an election and it turns out
that the Christian Democrats are going to have to coalesce
(03:17):
with an openly gay guy who looks like he's going
to be the PM. So be interesting to see how
democratic those Christians are.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
The Holland, so exciting. So Wilda's supposed to win it
didn't where he or why because Wilda's won it last time, No,
and worked with him. He spent seven months trying to
get a government together. He got it together, it fell apart,
he blew it up and they went back to the
polt Jetton who runs the D sixty six party. He
was supposed to be nowhere. He's gone and won it.
And when I say one and it's close, so you've
(03:48):
got the Freedom Party up there. So Vilda's has done okay,
but he's not won it. He conceded yesterday, although it's still,
as far as I can work out this morning, too
tight to call. So sixty six are going to get
together with another couple of parties, the Christian Democrat Christian
Democrats and the left wing Green Left Labor Party. Now
the point about that is it's a fairly broad based
coalition if they can make that work. But Builders is
(04:11):
out of rich So this guy Jetten literally came from nowhere,
stole the election and is about to be the next
Dutch Prime Minister.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
I wonder if it's just in the rest of the
world that this guy's come from nowhere, given that we
probably don't follow Dutch politics that closely, do we minute
to minute. I'm sure given that he got more votes,
his party got more votes than anybody else's, I'm sure
that some people in the Netherlands had an idea that
he was going to do all right, So thanks to
(04:41):
Bill Gates, climate change is definitely not worth worrying about
it anymore, because, of course everybody's starving.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
If you missed it, yesterday, the Herald's got a very
good piece by Jaqueline Roeth Doctor. She appears on this
program periodically. She was talking about the United Nations Food
and Agriculture Organization Conference, which ended up prioritizing a growing
population over reducing greenhouse gases. The Greenpeace people were outside,
of course, thus indicating that even the United Nations, in
(05:07):
a week where Bill Gates said what he said, even
the United Nations understands that actually feeding people is kind
of important and probably more important than this climate change obsession.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah, you have to wonder why people are starving. Could
it be because the climate is not very good at
their place? Maybe there's a connection. Maybe if we solve
one thing, it'll fix the other. Who knows the rewrap anyway.
Time now to mark the week, because I believe it
is Friday, and I believe that is what we do.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Time to make the week little piece of news and
current events that packs a bigger punch than Joe Parker
in the eleventh Bill Gates eight.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
There's an up innovation here to avoid super bad outcomes.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
When a disciple of the cause hits pause because he's
worked out the hysteria outweighs the reality he's to be congratulated.
Christopher Hipkins too, Sorry, what was that exactly? Sell attacks
if you want, mate, But the attack on the Prime
Minister in his houses is what Labour's really all about.
Their haters, they hate success are the all black? Seven? Ironically,
the biggest test is the first. I'm saying four from four.
(06:09):
I'm saying four from four and Merry Christmas. Social media seven.
Australia's under sixteen big win this week with big tech capitulating,
and from that we may win as well. In Vidia
fine as has become absurd or what Fonterra eight? A
great week to be a dairy farmer, Great week to
be a country with dairy farmers. General motors too. Another
(06:33):
seventeen hundred jobs lost this week because evis robust governments
are literally ruining an industry in front of our eyes.
Mind you, airo and jobs too. I mean tens of
thousands of jobs have been laid off this week alone,
fourteen thousand at Amazon, all by itself because a robot
or an algorithm does it better. Green shoots seven. Westpac
calling three percent GDP for twenty twenty six. Let's get
(06:54):
on board with that, shall we? No Lean eight? The
right call got made eventually, the no Lean saga one.
We still don't understand what happened, why it's happened, why
it got handled the way it got handled, and why
it did warrant a fitness rule? Six More self responsibility
sounded drunk? Then more more more responsibility, less regulation. Yes,
(07:19):
please enzid me. Eight. Upgrade to the company forecast. We're
making more money. Green shirt, green shirt, green shirp. New
curriculum roll out six as a spectacle, I mean, did
you see you this week? What a show? I mean,
if you ever seen more moaning? What is it about? Educators?
And change? Set against a backdrop for God's sake of
abject failure in the current system ships seven Making lawful
(07:44):
home Court for the twenty seven winter season. Good well
go you good things, and that's the week copies on
the website, by the way, and all the Asian leaders
were gifted a six pack of these in their own
languages to break the ice with lux and Subianto was
heard to say, cool. I listen every week anyway.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
All right, if you were looking for this podcast earlier,
if you just like a hot off the press podcast
and you wondering what the hell has happened to it,
It's nearly ten o'clock now here, and I certainly like
to have it well done by then. But basically I
was held up because there was a morning tea for me.
I know, weird, right because I've been working for this
(08:21):
company for thirty years, which made me feel very uncomfortable,
But you know, it was fun to watch other people
eat savary step.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
There's always that's always money rep.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
So anyway, we're back to it, and we wanted to
finish up by telling you just how much Elon Musks
for a into the United States politics, just how much
that was a boost to his profits at the Tesla
car factory.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Elon Musk and his sales, so it cost him his
deliance with Trump cost that company at least a million
lost sales. Income would have been sixty seven to eighty
three percent higher if only he hadn't done what he'd done.
This is from Yale University. Democrat leaning by shifted away
from Tesla boosted the sales of competitors by roughly seventeen
(09:15):
to twenty two percent. No one's done this study before.
That's what makes it interesting. Alienated environmentally minded democratic buyers
who are historically Tesla's strongest base. So you took your
fans and you shot them in the foot, and they
all went to somebody else business one O one.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
It is the oddest thing, isn't it that all these
people we thought they were saving their planet by buying.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Tesla's so probably generally speaking leaning to the left, then
becoming targets of the left because of the car they're driving.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
What a fun world.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
I am a glad heart.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
See you back here again on my thirty first year
on Monday.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
For more from NEWSTALKZTB, listen live on air or online,
and keep our shows with you wherever you go with
our podcasts on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to a podcast from News Talks dB. Follow
this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Rewrap there and welcome to the Rewrap for Friday.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
All the best buts from the mic asking breakfast on
news talks 'd be and a sillier package. I am
Glen Hart and today we're going to be talking the
Dutch election, so I know you're gripped by that. More
and more people have decided that climate change is not
really to them. We'll mark the week because it's Friday,
that's what we do. And elon Musk how much did
(00:54):
doging everything cost them? And Tesla sales? But before any
of that, Yes, this whole electoral Reform report and the
suggestions and all the rest of it, what it might
make of that looking back at.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
It now For a group that normally seems to nail
ideas and present will, the New Zealand Initiative this week
went off peacet with their thirtieth anniversary of MMP reports
Smaller Cabinet. They say, good idea, get rid of the overhang.
Good idea, but then they go and say more MPs.
What on earth are they thinking of the main point
they make and I think even for those of us
that didn't vote for MMP, we pretty much need to
(01:26):
concede that it has provided a fairer, more representative parliament. Now,
the question I would have is that actually what we
want it? The base level argument over representation is do
some of the lesser lights represent a sector of lesser
lights in the wider community. If the community has got
its collection of half wits and buffoons, do we want
a slice of that in the nation's parliament? Because that
(01:47):
is a version of course of representation. Now I would
argue no, I would argue it'd far rather have a
selection of highly qualified, dedicated, hard working professionals. But if
a cross section is what we voted for, then across
section is what we've received. The great fraud of MMP
has been the off use line by people like the
Greens Rod Donald, if you remember him that the tale
would not wag the dog, The tail has most certainly
(02:09):
wagged the dog many times over. If the circumstances are right,
and they have been more than once, a very small
percentage of the vote can wield an astonishing and destructive
amount of power. Then, of course, if we're marking thirty years,
we can also relitigate caun't we the issue of knowledge
At the time, MMP won not because it was better
or the best, but because MMP had the best run
(02:30):
anti FPP campaign and too many New Zealanders couldn't be
bothered educating themselves about the alternatives. So MMP had the
biggest headlines, and enough people were fed up with Muldoon
and Longing and scraps and bulldozing governments that they threw
out the current and the hope that you was better.
We will not change the system again. Those days are
gone and a doubt will ever, in fact even tinker
with it. But if we do, more MPs will not
(02:53):
be top of our wish list.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Yeah, so that's a no minister as opposed to a
yes minister from Mike there I think or not certainly
know who any more ministers. And so say all of that.
So we wrap while we're talking elections and electoral reform.
The Dutch, they've had an election and it turns out
that the Christian Democrats are going to have to coalesce
(03:17):
with an openly gay guy who looks like he's going
to be the PM. So be interesting to see how
democratic those Christians are.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
The Holland, so exciting. So Wilda's supposed to win it
didn't where he or why because Wilda's won it last time, No,
and worked with him. He spent seven months trying to
get a government together. He got it together, it fell apart,
he blew it up and they went back to the
polt Jetton who runs the D sixty six party. He
was supposed to be nowhere. He's gone and won it.
And when I say one and it's close, so you've
(03:48):
got the Freedom Party up there. So Vilda's has done okay,
but he's not won it. He conceded yesterday, although it's still,
as far as I can work out this morning, too
tight to call. So sixty six are going to get
together with another couple of parties, the Christian Democrat Christian
Democrats and the left wing Green Left Labor Party. Now
the point about that is it's a fairly broad based
coalition if they can make that work. But Builders is
(04:11):
out of rich So this guy Jetten literally came from nowhere,
stole the election and is about to be the next
Dutch Prime Minister.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
I wonder if it's just in the rest of the
world that this guy's come from nowhere, given that we
probably don't follow Dutch politics that closely, do we minute
to minute. I'm sure given that he got more votes,
his party got more votes than anybody else's, I'm sure
that some people in the Netherlands had an idea that
he was going to do all right, So thanks to
(04:41):
Bill Gates, climate change is definitely not worth worrying about
it anymore, because, of course everybody's starving.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
If you missed it, yesterday, the Herald's got a very
good piece by Jaqueline Roeth Doctor. She appears on this
program periodically. She was talking about the United Nations Food
and Agriculture Organization Conference, which ended up prioritizing a growing
population over reducing greenhouse gases. The Greenpeace people were outside,
of course, thus indicating that even the United Nations, in
(05:07):
a week where Bill Gates said what he said, even
the United Nations understands that actually feeding people is kind
of important and probably more important than this climate change obsession.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah, you have to wonder why people are starving. Could
it be because the climate is not very good at
their place? Maybe there's a connection. Maybe if we solve
one thing, it'll fix the other. Who knows the rewrap anyway.
Time now to mark the week, because I believe it
is Friday, and I believe that is what we do.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Time to make the week little piece of news and
current events that packs a bigger punch than Joe Parker
in the eleventh Bill Gates eight.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
There's an up innovation here to avoid super bad outcomes.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
When a disciple of the cause hits pause because he's
worked out the hysteria outweighs the reality he's to be congratulated.
Christopher Hipkins too, Sorry, what was that exactly? Sell attacks
if you want, mate, But the attack on the Prime
Minister in his houses is what Labour's really all about.
Their haters, they hate success are the all black? Seven? Ironically,
the biggest test is the first. I'm saying four from four.
(06:09):
I'm saying four from four and Merry Christmas. Social media seven.
Australia's under sixteen big win this week with big tech capitulating,
and from that we may win as well. In Vidia
fine as has become absurd or what Fonterra eight? A
great week to be a dairy farmer, Great week to
be a country with dairy farmers. General motors too. Another
(06:33):
seventeen hundred jobs lost this week because evis robust governments
are literally ruining an industry in front of our eyes.
Mind you, airo and jobs too. I mean tens of
thousands of jobs have been laid off this week alone,
fourteen thousand at Amazon, all by itself because a robot
or an algorithm does it better. Green shoots seven. Westpac
calling three percent GDP for twenty twenty six. Let's get
(06:54):
on board with that, shall we? No Lean eight? The
right call got made eventually, the no Lean saga one.
We still don't understand what happened, why it's happened, why
it got handled the way it got handled, and why
it did warrant a fitness rule? Six More self responsibility
sounded drunk? Then more more more responsibility, less regulation. Yes,
(07:19):
please enzid me. Eight. Upgrade to the company forecast. We're
making more money. Green shirt, green shirt, green shirp. New
curriculum roll out six as a spectacle, I mean, did
you see you this week? What a show? I mean,
if you ever seen more moaning? What is it about? Educators?
And change? Set against a backdrop for God's sake of
abject failure in the current system ships seven Making lawful
(07:44):
home Court for the twenty seven winter season. Good well
go you good things, and that's the week copies on
the website, by the way, and all the Asian leaders
were gifted a six pack of these in their own
languages to break the ice with lux and Subianto was
heard to say, cool. I listen every week anyway.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
All right, if you were looking for this podcast earlier,
if you just like a hot off the press podcast
and you wondering what the hell has happened to it,
It's nearly ten o'clock now here, and I certainly like
to have it well done by then. But basically I
was held up because there was a morning tea for me.
I know, weird, right because I've been working for this
(08:21):
company for thirty years, which made me feel very uncomfortable,
But you know, it was fun to watch other people
eat savary step.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
There's always that's always money rep.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
So anyway, we're back to it, and we wanted to
finish up by telling you just how much Elon Musks
for a into the United States politics, just how much
that was a boost to his profits at the Tesla
car factory.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Elon Musk and his sales, so it cost him his
deliance with Trump cost that company at least a million
lost sales. Income would have been sixty seven to eighty
three percent higher if only he hadn't done what he'd done.
This is from Yale University. Democrat leaning by shifted away
from Tesla boosted the sales of competitors by roughly seventeen
(09:15):
to twenty two percent. No one's done this study before.
That's what makes it interesting. Alienated environmentally minded democratic buyers
who are historically Tesla's strongest base. So you took your
fans and you shot them in the foot, and they
all went to somebody else business one O one.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
It is the oddest thing, isn't it that all these
people we thought they were saving their planet by buying.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Tesla's so probably generally speaking leaning to the left, then
becoming targets of the left because of the car they're driving.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
What a fun world.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
I am a glad heart.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
See you back here again on my thirty first year
on Monday.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
For more from NEWSTALKZTB, listen live on air or online,
and keep our shows with you wherever you go with
our podcasts on iHeartRadio.
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