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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk. Said be
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio. Rewrap.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Okay, there and.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Welcome to the Rewrap for Monday, all the best bits
from the my casting breakfast on news Talks. He'd be
in a sillier package. I am Glen Hart and today
it's Heather hosting. In fact, you'll be hosting for the
remaining two weeks of this podcast. She's still thinking about
that great I opening the other day.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yes, she saw us.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
We will do a deep dive on Lando Norris and
family and now that he's the world champion of driving.
Very first, the AI quake photo, that head emergency services
scrambling and what's on the Royal Christmas card this year? Oh,
I wonder before any of that. The Costa versus Mitchell
(01:11):
ultimately versus mix skimming saga continues with.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
That Q and A interview. Andrew Costa can probably say
that he's calm down the hysteria a little bit by
giving his version of events, which does make it all
seem slightly less scandalous, doesn't it. I mean, I don't
think though, that this has restored him to being the
good guy. In the story if that's what he was wanting.
Because he had no smoking gun, there was no single
piece of evidence to prove his story, no piece of
evidence to implicate everyone else. Even though he tried to
(01:35):
implicate everyone else. All he gave us was a he said,
she said. At best, he said he told the police
Minister Chris Hopkins and the now police Minister Mark Mitchell
yonks Ago. They said he didn't. It's up to you
to decide who you believe. Now, the problem I got
a text before saying that we're all buying into Costa's narrative.
Not so much. Costa's problem is that he's too clever
for his own good. Thinks he's being really clever with
(01:57):
his words often isn't. Just look at the text message
he sent the people looking at appoint in MC skimming
to the Commissioner's job when they asked whether any outstanding
allegations or investigations. His text, basically telling them not to worry,
was so cleverly and carefully worded it had the effect
of misleading him, of misleading them. Now, short of some
new revelation, I'd say that this is the end of
(02:17):
Costa's redemption attempt. It's two weeks before Christmas. Most of
us are now more worried about buying and wrapping gifts
and getting away on holiday than we are about spending
time weighing up who's more likely to be telling the
truth here. No one's going to go into bat for Costa,
neither Labor nor National because he's trying to implicate both
of them in it, Mitchell and Hipkins, And who wants
to be on the side of the guy who was
on the side of the guy who had kiddie porn
(02:38):
on his computer. Now sure, by giving us his side
of the story, he's made it less bad for himself.
It was a lot more scandalous when we thought Costa
was hiding emails from Mark Mitchell. It's a lot less
scandalous when we hear it with someone else in his
office and he didn't know about it. So he's made
himself slightly less of a villain. But has he made
people feel sorry for him and want him back in
the public service. I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Sometimes people do seem to think that they're bigger than
they really are. It's felt like those kids on American
Idol whose families told them they can sing and then
it turns out that they clearly can't, but they don't
realize that they can't because all they've ever heard is
that they can. I'm starting to feel a little bit
that way about Andrew Coss So we wrap. Hey, did
(03:19):
you hear that Ikea open a.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Store in New Zealand last week? Yes? Yes, yes he did.
Of course you did, right, Hey, do you know what?
Speaker 4 (03:26):
It was okay for the Prime Minister to go to
the Ikea opening on Thursday? And it was actually okay
for you to be excited about the store opening if
you were. Because the reason I'm telling you this is
because today, yet again, there is a newspaper columnists cringing
at the fact that we fizz that hard for a
flat pack stores opening. And hopefully Luxon didn't go on
social media over the weekend or he might have read
just how embarrassing it was that he turned up there
(03:46):
to open the thing. And yes, look, we did get
a bit mental over it, didn't we. I mean, there
may have been too many live blogs and too many
journalists there, but actually it was exactly the right place
for the Prime Minister to be because Ikea is an
example of exactly what Chris Luckson's government is trying to do,
which is to bring in overseas investment, create jobs in
New Zealand and get consumers spending again to lift the
economic recovery. Just as opening things is not embarrassing as
(04:10):
a rule, John Key opened the building I'm in right
now about a decade ago when he was Prime Minister,
and frankly I suspect that the level of excitement generated
by iq is opening is not so much because we
love a flat pack, but actually because we know how
rare and opening by a global retailer is in this country,
because we have written the rules to make this incredibly
difficult in the form of the ROMA. I was reminded
(04:32):
over the weekend what I had to go through to
get consent here, including having to give the local EWE
permission to go to access the site any time they liked,
having representatives of seven different Manifenua Group's prey at the
site at the pre start meeting, at the commencement of earthworks,
and just before the completion of bulk earthworks, because yeah,
prayers are really important. It took the company seven years
(04:53):
to open this shop now fortunately happy days the RMAS
and for a rework that we might actually learn the
detail of as early as tomorrow. But for now, the
only thing worse than being a little too excited is
pornering scorn on those who are excited with good reason.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Thanks for sure, whoever's in charge of the publicity for IQ,
I mean, take the rest of the year off, buy
yourself a drink by yourself too.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I mean, amazing job.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
And now what a shame Mike Hosking wasn't around this
morning for the last if one of the year. Lando
Norris wrapped up by coming third, which was all we
had to do to win the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
I need to talk to you about Lando Norris because,
of course, as we say, he's won the f one.
Interesting family. Dad is a chap called Adam Norris. If
he's an entre If you're into business, you might actually
have come across him before in terms of reading about him.
He's an entrepreneur. He's regularly cited as one of Britain's
wealthiest men. His net worth is estimated to be somewhere
in the vicinity of like north of two hundred million pounds,
(05:55):
so he's got a fair chunk of change. Their bank
accounts a little full He made his money by building
up one of the UK's most successful pension companies, Hargraves Landsdown,
took a public retired at thirty six. How about that
a tired at thirty six, and then he founded Pure Electric,
which is now the world's number one electric scooter brands.
The chances are you've got a Pure Electric somewhere around
(06:16):
you and he's responsible for it. Anyway, He's the one
who basically he wanted to drive himself, didn't have a
chance to drive. God his sons into driving. There was
two of them, Oliver and Lando, and then Oliver dropped out.
He's the elder one, dropped out because his little brother
was beating him all the time. So you would now
the people who moan about Lando Norris moan that, of course,
rich daddy got him everything he needed, right new tires,
exclusive track time, a manager and a trainer since the
(06:38):
age of twelve. But having the best equipment doesn't make
you the best, does it. And one of his junior rivals,
this is Lando Norris's junior rival, says he worked really
hard and his work ethic was amazing and that probably
is the secret, isn't it. You can have all of
the equipment. Dad can be as rich as you like,
but if you don't put the hard yards in, you're
going to go nowhere.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
I'm just trying to think what equipment my dad let
me use so I get this job. I mean he
had that. He was big into electronic organs, mean he
had a couple, not at the same time. I think
he sold one and for another one sort of thing.
I don't know if that's really applicable. Imagine being able
(07:18):
to retire at thirty six. I suppose there's nothing stopping
you retiring at thirty six. Is just whether you'll starve
to death because you get no money at that point,
Isn't it? That's the main issue. Otherwise I definitely would
have given it a go. The re rev okay, So
AI is it as dangerous as people claim? It turns
out that sometimes it can do damage, even when it's
showing pictures of damage that aren't real damage.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
There is now a case, I don't know if you've
seen this, but there's a case of an AI generated
picture causing some proper disruption in the UK. So they
had a bit of a quake last week across Lancashire
in the Southern Lake district and shortly afterwards the officials
over there were drawn had their attention drawn to the
damage on a bridge in Lancaster, and there was a
photograph that was doing the rounds of this particular bridge
(08:01):
with all the brickwork coming down and the railing down.
You could not drive a train over that knowing it
would be safe. So basic it looked reasonably major result.
They called off the rail services. They shut them down
for an hour and a half, sent the dudes out
there looked on the bridge trying to figure out if
it's totally fine, not a brick out of place, complete hoax.
So that's cool from the AI, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Yeah? A message from the boy who cried Wolf Department.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Probably best not to prank emergency services that might actually,
I don't know, be who you need to help save
your life if you get yourself in an actual emergency.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Just a little word from someone who's seen a few
of these sorts of things go wrong with the pass
a rewrap right the moment you've been waiting for? What what?
Speaker 3 (08:45):
What could positively be on the front of the Royal
Christmas card This year.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
King Charles and the Queen have unveiled their Christmas card
for twenty twenty five. It's very informal. It was taken
on the occasion I think of their wedding anniversary, twentieth
wedding anniversary. Just to pict it just looks like an
elderly couple strolling through a beautiful garden. He's got a
beautiful pin stripe suit on. She's got a little white dress.
Not little, obviously it's appropriate for her age. It's all
(09:11):
white trees, got her arm linked through his, and they're
smiling for the camera, beautiful gardens behind them.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Just sort of a selfie, is it?
Speaker 4 (09:18):
It's yeah, what is the selfie taken by somebody that's
not quite that informal. It's not our level of informal.
It seys on the inside, wishing you a very happy
Christmas in New Year. Can I just say, controversially, I'm
still a merry Christmas school you do, yep, do the merry.
Don't worry about the happy.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
I know it's it's irrational, but I feel exactly the
same way happy. I've even been comfortable with happy Christmas,
and so to get past that, I just amuse myself
with the mental image of Charles and Camilla taking selfies
we would have to be Charles. He's got the longer arm,
it's probably. And then you know, going taking fucking off
(09:56):
a fewer, go through. My ears look bigger than that one. Oh,
my ears look bigger than that one. And then well
that one's not too bad, and she goes, I look
at the like of awesome that one, you know, that
sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
I am Green Had Royal Follower. I'll see you back
here again tomorrow
Speaker 1 (10:27):
For more from News Talks ed b listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk. Said be
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio. Rewrap.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Okay, there and.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Welcome to the Rewrap for Monday, all the best bits
from the my casting breakfast on news Talks. He'd be
in a sillier package. I am Glen Hart and today
it's Heather hosting. In fact, you'll be hosting for the
remaining two weeks of this podcast. She's still thinking about
that great I opening the other day.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yes, she saw us.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
We will do a deep dive on Lando Norris and
family and now that he's the world champion of driving.
Very first, the AI quake photo, that head emergency services
scrambling and what's on the Royal Christmas card this year? Oh,
I wonder before any of that. The Costa versus Mitchell
(01:11):
ultimately versus mix skimming saga continues with.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
That Q and A interview. Andrew Costa can probably say
that he's calm down the hysteria a little bit by
giving his version of events, which does make it all
seem slightly less scandalous, doesn't it. I mean, I don't
think though, that this has restored him to being the
good guy. In the story if that's what he was wanting.
Because he had no smoking gun, there was no single
piece of evidence to prove his story, no piece of
evidence to implicate everyone else. Even though he tried to
(01:35):
implicate everyone else. All he gave us was a he said,
she said. At best, he said he told the police
Minister Chris Hopkins and the now police Minister Mark Mitchell
yonks Ago. They said he didn't. It's up to you
to decide who you believe. Now, the problem I got
a text before saying that we're all buying into Costa's narrative.
Not so much. Costa's problem is that he's too clever
for his own good. Thinks he's being really clever with
(01:57):
his words often isn't. Just look at the text message
he sent the people looking at appoint in MC skimming
to the Commissioner's job when they asked whether any outstanding
allegations or investigations. His text, basically telling them not to worry,
was so cleverly and carefully worded it had the effect
of misleading him, of misleading them. Now, short of some
new revelation, I'd say that this is the end of
(02:17):
Costa's redemption attempt. It's two weeks before Christmas. Most of
us are now more worried about buying and wrapping gifts
and getting away on holiday than we are about spending
time weighing up who's more likely to be telling the
truth here. No one's going to go into bat for Costa,
neither Labor nor National because he's trying to implicate both
of them in it, Mitchell and Hipkins, And who wants
to be on the side of the guy who was
on the side of the guy who had kiddie porn
(02:38):
on his computer. Now sure, by giving us his side
of the story, he's made it less bad for himself.
It was a lot more scandalous when we thought Costa
was hiding emails from Mark Mitchell. It's a lot less
scandalous when we hear it with someone else in his
office and he didn't know about it. So he's made
himself slightly less of a villain. But has he made
people feel sorry for him and want him back in
the public service. I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Sometimes people do seem to think that they're bigger than
they really are. It's felt like those kids on American
Idol whose families told them they can sing and then
it turns out that they clearly can't, but they don't
realize that they can't because all they've ever heard is
that they can. I'm starting to feel a little bit
that way about Andrew Coss So we wrap. Hey, did
(03:19):
you hear that Ikea open a.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Store in New Zealand last week? Yes? Yes, yes he did.
Of course you did, right, Hey, do you know what?
Speaker 4 (03:26):
It was okay for the Prime Minister to go to
the Ikea opening on Thursday? And it was actually okay
for you to be excited about the store opening if
you were. Because the reason I'm telling you this is
because today, yet again, there is a newspaper columnists cringing
at the fact that we fizz that hard for a
flat pack stores opening. And hopefully Luxon didn't go on
social media over the weekend or he might have read
just how embarrassing it was that he turned up there
(03:46):
to open the thing. And yes, look, we did get
a bit mental over it, didn't we. I mean, there
may have been too many live blogs and too many
journalists there, but actually it was exactly the right place
for the Prime Minister to be because Ikea is an
example of exactly what Chris Luckson's government is trying to do,
which is to bring in overseas investment, create jobs in
New Zealand and get consumers spending again to lift the
economic recovery. Just as opening things is not embarrassing as
(04:10):
a rule, John Key opened the building I'm in right
now about a decade ago when he was Prime Minister,
and frankly I suspect that the level of excitement generated
by iq is opening is not so much because we
love a flat pack, but actually because we know how
rare and opening by a global retailer is in this country,
because we have written the rules to make this incredibly
difficult in the form of the ROMA. I was reminded
(04:32):
over the weekend what I had to go through to
get consent here, including having to give the local EWE
permission to go to access the site any time they liked,
having representatives of seven different Manifenua Group's prey at the
site at the pre start meeting, at the commencement of earthworks,
and just before the completion of bulk earthworks, because yeah,
prayers are really important. It took the company seven years
(04:53):
to open this shop now fortunately happy days the RMAS
and for a rework that we might actually learn the
detail of as early as tomorrow. But for now, the
only thing worse than being a little too excited is
pornering scorn on those who are excited with good reason.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Thanks for sure, whoever's in charge of the publicity for IQ,
I mean, take the rest of the year off, buy
yourself a drink by yourself too.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I mean, amazing job.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
And now what a shame Mike Hosking wasn't around this
morning for the last if one of the year. Lando
Norris wrapped up by coming third, which was all we
had to do to win the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
I need to talk to you about Lando Norris because,
of course, as we say, he's won the f one.
Interesting family. Dad is a chap called Adam Norris. If
he's an entre If you're into business, you might actually
have come across him before in terms of reading about him.
He's an entrepreneur. He's regularly cited as one of Britain's
wealthiest men. His net worth is estimated to be somewhere
in the vicinity of like north of two hundred million pounds,
(05:55):
so he's got a fair chunk of change. Their bank
accounts a little full He made his money by building
up one of the UK's most successful pension companies, Hargraves Landsdown,
took a public retired at thirty six. How about that
a tired at thirty six, and then he founded Pure Electric,
which is now the world's number one electric scooter brands.
The chances are you've got a Pure Electric somewhere around
(06:16):
you and he's responsible for it. Anyway, He's the one
who basically he wanted to drive himself, didn't have a
chance to drive. God his sons into driving. There was
two of them, Oliver and Lando, and then Oliver dropped out.
He's the elder one, dropped out because his little brother
was beating him all the time. So you would now
the people who moan about Lando Norris moan that, of course,
rich daddy got him everything he needed, right new tires,
exclusive track time, a manager and a trainer since the
(06:38):
age of twelve. But having the best equipment doesn't make
you the best, does it. And one of his junior rivals,
this is Lando Norris's junior rival, says he worked really
hard and his work ethic was amazing and that probably
is the secret, isn't it. You can have all of
the equipment. Dad can be as rich as you like,
but if you don't put the hard yards in, you're
going to go nowhere.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
I'm just trying to think what equipment my dad let
me use so I get this job. I mean he
had that. He was big into electronic organs, mean he
had a couple, not at the same time. I think
he sold one and for another one sort of thing.
I don't know if that's really applicable. Imagine being able
(07:18):
to retire at thirty six. I suppose there's nothing stopping
you retiring at thirty six. Is just whether you'll starve
to death because you get no money at that point,
Isn't it? That's the main issue. Otherwise I definitely would
have given it a go. The re rev okay, So
AI is it as dangerous as people claim? It turns
out that sometimes it can do damage, even when it's
showing pictures of damage that aren't real damage.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
There is now a case, I don't know if you've
seen this, but there's a case of an AI generated
picture causing some proper disruption in the UK. So they
had a bit of a quake last week across Lancashire
in the Southern Lake district and shortly afterwards the officials
over there were drawn had their attention drawn to the
damage on a bridge in Lancaster, and there was a
photograph that was doing the rounds of this particular bridge
(08:01):
with all the brickwork coming down and the railing down.
You could not drive a train over that knowing it
would be safe. So basic it looked reasonably major result.
They called off the rail services. They shut them down
for an hour and a half, sent the dudes out
there looked on the bridge trying to figure out if
it's totally fine, not a brick out of place, complete hoax.
So that's cool from the AI, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Yeah? A message from the boy who cried Wolf Department.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Probably best not to prank emergency services that might actually,
I don't know, be who you need to help save
your life if you get yourself in an actual emergency.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Just a little word from someone who's seen a few
of these sorts of things go wrong with the pass
a rewrap right the moment you've been waiting for? What what?
Speaker 3 (08:45):
What could positively be on the front of the Royal
Christmas card This year.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
King Charles and the Queen have unveiled their Christmas card
for twenty twenty five. It's very informal. It was taken
on the occasion I think of their wedding anniversary, twentieth
wedding anniversary. Just to pict it just looks like an
elderly couple strolling through a beautiful garden. He's got a
beautiful pin stripe suit on. She's got a little white dress.
Not little, obviously it's appropriate for her age. It's all
(09:11):
white trees, got her arm linked through his, and they're
smiling for the camera, beautiful gardens behind them.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Just sort of a selfie, is it?
Speaker 4 (09:18):
It's yeah, what is the selfie taken by somebody that's
not quite that informal. It's not our level of informal.
It seys on the inside, wishing you a very happy
Christmas in New Year. Can I just say, controversially, I'm
still a merry Christmas school you do, yep, do the merry.
Don't worry about the happy.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
I know it's it's irrational, but I feel exactly the
same way happy. I've even been comfortable with happy Christmas,
and so to get past that, I just amuse myself
with the mental image of Charles and Camilla taking selfies
we would have to be Charles. He's got the longer arm,
it's probably. And then you know, going taking fucking off
(09:56):
a fewer, go through. My ears look bigger than that one. Oh,
my ears look bigger than that one. And then well
that one's not too bad, and she goes, I look
at the like of awesome that one, you know, that
sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
I am Green Had Royal Follower. I'll see you back
here again tomorrow
Speaker 1 (10:27):
For more from News Talks ed b listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
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